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Bio1590
11/27/18 11:50:54 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/27/manafort-held-secret-talks-with-assange-in-ecuadorian-embassy?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Donald Trumps former campaign manager Paul Manafort held secret talks with Julian Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and visited around the time he joined Trumps campaign, the Guardian has been told.

Sources have said Manafort went to see Assange in 2013, 2015 and in spring 2016 during the period when he was made a key figure in Trumps push for the White House.

It is unclear why Manafort would have wanted to see Assange and what was discussed. But the last apparent meeting is likely to come under scrutiny and could interest Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is investigating alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

A well-placed source has told the Guardian that Manafort went to see Assange around March 2016. Months later WikiLeaks released a stash of Democratic emails stolen by Russian intelligence officers.

Manafort, 69, denies involvement in the hack and says the claim is 100% false. His lawyers declined to answer the Guardians questions about the visits.

In a series of tweets WikiLeaks said Assange and Manafort had not met. Assange described the story as a hoax.

Manafort was jailed this year and was thought to have become a star cooperator in the Mueller inquiry. But on Monday Mueller said Manafort had repeatedly lied to the FBI, despite agreeing to cooperate two months ago in a plea deal. According to a court document, Manafort had committed crimes and lies on a variety of subject matters.

His defence team says he believes what he has told Mueller to be truthful and has not violated his deal.

Manaforts first visit to the embassy took place a year after Assange sought asylum inside, two sources said.

A separate internal document written by Ecuadors Senain intelligence agency and seen by the Guardian lists Paul Manaford [sic] as one of several well-known guests. It also mentions Russians.

According to the sources, Manafort returned to the embassy in 2015. He paid another visit in spring 2016, turning up alone, around the time Trump named him as his convention manager. The visit is tentatively dated to March.

Manaforts 2016 visit to Assange lasted about 40 minutes, one source said, adding that the American was casually dressed when he exited the embassy, wearing sandy-coloured chinos, a cardigan and a light-coloured shirt.

Visitors normally register with embassy security guards and show their passports. Sources in Ecuador, however, say Manafort was not logged.

Embassy staff were aware only later of the potential significance of Manaforts visit and his political role with Trump, it is understood.

The revelation could shed new light on the sequence of events in the run-up to summer 2016, when WikiLeaks published tens of thousands of emails hacked by the GRU, Russias military intelligence agency. Hillary Clinton has said the hack contributed to her defeat.

The previously unreported Manafort-Assange connection is likely to be of interest to Mueller, who has been investigating possible contacts between WikiLeaks and associates of Trump including the political lobbyist Roger Stone and Donald Trump Jr.

One key question is when the Trump campaign was aware of the Kremlins hacking operation and what, if anything, it did to encourage it. Trump has repeatedly denied collusion.

Earlier this year Mueller indicted 12 GRU intelligence officers for carrying out the hack, which began in March 2016.

In June of that year WikiLeaks emailed the GRU via an intermediary seeking the DNC material. After failed attempts, Vladimir Putins spies sent the documents in mid-July to WikiLeaks as an encrypted attachment.

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Bio1590
11/27/18 11:51:18 AM
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According to sources, Manaforts acquaintance with Assange goes back at least five years, to late 2012 or 2013, when the American was working in Ukraine and advising its Moscow-friendly president, Viktor Yanukovych.

Why Manafort might have sought out Assange in 2013 is unclear. During this period the veteran consultant was involved in black operations against Yanukovychs chief political rival, Yulia Tymoshenko, whom Yanukovych had jailed. Manafort ran an extensive lobbying operation featuring European former politicians.

He flew frequently from the US to Ukraines capital, Kiev usually via Frankfurt but sometimes through London, flight records seen by the Guardian show.

Manafort is currently in jail in Alexandria, Virginia. In August a jury convicted him of crimes arising from his decade-long activities in Ukraine. They include large-scale money laundering and failure to pay US tax. Manafort pleaded guilty to further charges in order to avoid a second trial in Washington.

As well as accusing him of lying on Monday, the special counsel moved to set a date for Manafort to be sentenced.

One person familiar with WikiLeaks said Assange was motivated to damage the Democrats campaign because he believed a future Trump administration would be less likely to seek his extradition on possible charges of espionage. This fate had hung over Assange since 2010, when he released confidential US state department cables. It contributed to his decision to take refuge in the embassy.

According to the dossier written by the former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, Manafort was at the centre of a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russias leadership. The two sides had a mutual interest in defeating Clinton, Steele wrote, whom Putin hated and feared.

In a memo written soon after the DNC emails were published, Steele said: The [hacking] operation had been conducted with the full knowledge and support of Trump and senior members of his campaign team.

As a candidate Trump warmly welcomed the dump of DNC emails by Assange. In October 2016 he declared: I love WikiLeaks. Trumps comments came after WikiLeaks released a second tranche of emails seized from the email account of John Podesta, Clintons campaign chairman.

The Trump White House subsequently sent out mixed messages over Assange and his legal fate. In 2017 and behind the scenes Assange tried to reach a deal with Trumps Department of Justice that might see him avoid US prison.

In May 2017, , Manafort flew to Ecuador to hold talks with the countrys president-elect Lenn Moreno. The discussions, days before Moreno was sworn in, and before Manafort was indicted were ostensibly about a large-scale Chinese investment.

However, one source in Quito suggests that Manafort also discreetly raised Assanges plight. Another senior foreign ministry source said he was sceptical Assange was mentioned. At the time Moreno was expected to continue support for him.

Last week a court filing released in error suggested that the US justice department had secretly charged Assange with a criminal offence. Written by the assistant US attorney, Kellen Dwyer, the document did not say what Assange had been charged with or when the alleged offence took place.


Note the bold part in the first post - they obviously have him on tape or in photos.
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UnfairRepresent
11/27/18 11:52:26 AM
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So if this is a witch hunt....does that mean witches exist since they keep finding them?
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P4wn4g3
11/27/18 12:02:57 PM
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That seems a bit damning.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/27/18 12:10:06 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
So if this is a witch hunt....does that mean witches exist since they keep finding them?


Yes
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JediMasterTrump
11/27/18 12:12:39 PM
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Assange is a great hero and should be given U.S. citizenship.
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P4wn4g3
11/27/18 12:22:13 PM
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JediMasterTrump posted...
Assange is a great hero and should be given U.S. citizenship.

Trump supporters have come full circle
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Tyranthraxus
11/27/18 12:23:48 PM
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pogo_rabid
11/27/18 12:28:21 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
JediMasterTrump posted...
Assange is a great hero and should be given U.S. citizenship.

Trump supporters have come full circle

Lets be real here. Assange was a hero of the left until he started rattling clinton's cage...then he's suddenly a scumbag right wing rapist.
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Muffinz0rz
11/27/18 12:29:20 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
two all nothing patties, special nothing, nothing lettuce, nothing cheese, nothing pickles, nothing onions, on a nothingseed bun

Sounds delicious
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ScazarMeltex
11/27/18 12:33:05 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
JediMasterTrump posted...
Assange is a great hero and should be given U.S. citizenship.

Trump supporters have come full circle

Lets be real here. Assange was a hero of the left until he started rattling clinton's cage...then he's suddenly a scumbag right wing rapist.

No he was always a scummy rapist. He also outed homosexuals in countries where that is a crime punishable by death.
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ultimate reaver
11/27/18 12:36:33 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
JediMasterTrump posted...
Assange is a great hero and should be given U.S. citizenship.

Trump supporters have come full circle

Lets be real here. Assange was a hero of the left until he started rattling clinton's cage...then he's suddenly a scumbag right wing rapist.


Naw, support for Assange was always pretty contentious once the rape allegation came out, but it just kept getting worse. At this point he's pretty clearly a shill for russian interests because he doesn't want to be shipped back home, so naturally anyone with a brain would dislike and distrust him
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P4wn4g3
11/27/18 12:39:22 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
JediMasterTrump posted...
Assange is a great hero and should be given U.S. citizenship.

Trump supporters have come full circle

Lets be real here. Assange was a hero of the left until he started rattling clinton's cage...then he's suddenly a scumbag right wing rapist.

No he was always a scummy rapist. He also outed homosexuals in countries where that is a crime punishable by death.

Assange had a small number of "good" vigilante acts that were heavily outweighed early on by a large number of bad and dangerous information leaks. He probably doesn't view these differently either. He's never been a good guy. It really did become more apparent with the 2016 election tampering though. Snowden is a bit of a separate story.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/27/18 12:41:35 PM
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This is an interesting turn of events but its definitely a missing puzzle piece.
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Tyranthraxus
11/27/18 12:44:05 PM
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Assange used to dump everything that came to his desk without a second thought.

During 2016 suddenly it was all "I got lots of stuff from the RNC but nothing significant" and also admitted to getting a lot of russian leaks that he never bothered to disclose either.

He's a complete political tool at this point. I used to be in favor of him in the early days of wikileaks when he was just dumping shit like Stratfor emails but now he's a Russian political tool.

Snowden is different and I still approve of his actions.
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pogo_rabid
11/27/18 12:44:59 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
JediMasterTrump posted...
Assange is a great hero and should be given U.S. citizenship.

Trump supporters have come full circle

Lets be real here. Assange was a hero of the left until he started rattling clinton's cage...then he's suddenly a scumbag right wing rapist.

No he was always a scummy rapist. He also outed homosexuals in countries where that is a crime punishable by death.

Assange had a small number of "good" vigilante acts that were heavily outweighed early on by a large number of bad and dangerous information leaks. He probably doesn't view these differently either. He's never been a good guy. It really did become more apparent with the 2016 election tampering though. Snowden is a bit of a separate story.

If his small number of good acts never covered up his bad ones, why did he get put on a pedestal by the left for as long as he did?
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King_Hellebuyck
11/27/18 1:05:22 PM
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https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/303172-pussy-riot-member-assange-openly-works-with-russia

Dont forget that Pussy Riots members who met with Assange have said hes openly working with Russia and RT.
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ScazarMeltex
11/27/18 1:05:58 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
JediMasterTrump posted...
Assange is a great hero and should be given U.S. citizenship.

Trump supporters have come full circle

Lets be real here. Assange was a hero of the left until he started rattling clinton's cage...then he's suddenly a scumbag right wing rapist.

No he was always a scummy rapist. He also outed homosexuals in countries where that is a crime punishable by death.

Assange had a small number of "good" vigilante acts that were heavily outweighed early on by a large number of bad and dangerous information leaks. He probably doesn't view these differently either. He's never been a good guy. It really did become more apparent with the 2016 election tampering though. Snowden is a bit of a separate story.

If his small number of good acts never covered up his bad ones, why did he get put on a pedestal by the left for as long as he did?

Citation needed
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King_Hellebuyck
11/27/18 1:13:58 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
JediMasterTrump posted...
Assange is a great hero and should be given U.S. citizenship.

Trump supporters have come full circle

Lets be real here. Assange was a hero of the left until he started rattling clinton's cage...then he's suddenly a scumbag right wing rapist.

No he was always a scummy rapist. He also outed homosexuals in countries where that is a crime punishable by death.

Assange had a small number of "good" vigilante acts that were heavily outweighed early on by a large number of bad and dangerous information leaks. He probably doesn't view these differently either. He's never been a good guy. It really did become more apparent with the 2016 election tampering though. Snowden is a bit of a separate story.

If his small number of good acts never covered up his bad ones, why did he get put on a pedestal by the left for as long as he did?

Citation needed

Even more than citation needed, who actually cares? Why does it matter if people didnt educate themselves before and only saw his anti-war shit so they liked him?
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P4wn4g3
11/27/18 1:24:31 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/303172-pussy-riot-member-assange-openly-works-with-russia

Dont forget that Pussy Riots members who met with Assange have said hes openly working with Russia and RT.

This hit piece is from 2016, so I'm not sure what your point is.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/27/18 1:34:29 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/303172-pussy-riot-member-assange-openly-works-with-russia

Dont forget that Pussy Riots members who met with Assange have said hes openly working with Russia and RT.

This hit piece is from 2016, so I'm not sure what your point is.

Hit piece

I think I made my point pretty obvious when I posted it alongside the link.
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P4wn4g3
11/27/18 1:38:30 PM
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Well the obvious to me is shitposting, so idk guess we are going with occam's razor according to you.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/27/18 1:39:26 PM
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What?
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yusiko_is_smexy
11/27/18 1:40:53 PM
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assange had the left turn on him once he started outing closeted homosexuals in countries where they would be put to death
and releasing the names of underage rape victims so they could be harassed

people realizing he was a piece of shit had nothing to do with clinton
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P4wn4g3
11/27/18 1:41:46 PM
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My question exactly.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/27/18 1:42:35 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
My question exactly.

Youre not making any sense
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Bio1590
11/27/18 2:21:05 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
My question exactly.

Can you stop derailing my topic with your fucking inane shitposting please
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P4wn4g3
11/27/18 2:28:22 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
My question exactly.

Can you stop derailing my topic with your fucking inane shitposting please

It wasn't me but w/e. You realize you're just rekindling a dead conversation in your haste to be bitchy yes?
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kingdrake2
11/27/18 2:28:52 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
My question exactly.

Can you stop derailing my topic with your fucking inane shitposting please


i don't think he's going to stop. we're going to have to roast him at this rate if he continues :(.
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Vertania
11/27/18 11:15:52 PM
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008Zulu
11/27/18 11:21:43 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
So if this is a witch hunt....does that mean witches exist since they keep finding them?

It means that people in league with Trump, are in league with the Devil.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/28/18 11:38:22 AM
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Vertania posted...
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1067531696143241217?s=20

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1067472687625355264?s=20

Thats interesting but pretty much exactly what I expect Wikileaks to say regardless of the validity of the report
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Bio1590
11/28/18 11:44:07 AM
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Yeah good luck winning a court case you won't even show up for Assange.
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Doom_Art
11/28/18 11:49:01 AM
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@Vertania posted...
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1067531696143241217?s=20

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1067472687625355264?s=20

Surely this proves that the DNC had Seth Rich murdered?
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