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Tyranthraxus
11/27/18 12:28:51 AM
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https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/11/26/manafort-tests-the-theory-of-an-unpardonable-plea/

tl;dr

Mueller never needed Manafort's testimony. The trial was a sham to get him into a plea deal where he knew Manafort would lie because Trump would pardon him in exchange for reporting secret details about the investigation to Trump. Mueller then fed him false information that got reported back to Trump which was then used on the written interview Trump just took.

Oh, and Manafort's plea deal also got invalidated for lying to the FBI and special investigators as a result.
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Funkydog
11/27/18 12:32:24 AM
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Lol if true.
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Shotgunnova
11/27/18 12:33:09 AM
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p0zQZaG
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Muffinz0rz
11/27/18 12:34:57 AM
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This time
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butthole666
11/27/18 12:35:57 AM
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Fucking lmao
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Axiom
11/27/18 12:36:23 AM
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Shotgunnova posted...
p0zQZaG

Oh Lennie you're the greatest
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creativerealms
11/27/18 12:36:54 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
This time

There never was a last time. It's the same investigation it's always been.
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muchdran
11/27/18 12:38:24 AM
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You're better than this
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Garioshi
11/27/18 12:41:33 AM
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Shotgunnova posted...
p0zQZaG

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VictimComplex
11/27/18 12:42:11 AM
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muchdran posted...
You're better than this

Trumper is SHOOK
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Manocheese
11/27/18 12:42:33 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
This time

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King_Hellebuyck
11/27/18 12:44:25 AM
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Ill believe it when I see it
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kingdrake2
11/27/18 12:44:52 AM
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VictimComplex posted...
muchdran posted...
You're better than this

Trumper is SHOOK


trumper will shut the investigation down. it won't affect him. all that work will go down the toilet.
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powerman1426
11/27/18 12:50:28 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy
11/27/18 12:51:21 AM
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action52
11/27/18 12:58:27 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/11/26/manafort-tests-the-theory-of-an-unpardonable-plea/

tl;dr

Mueller never needed Manafort's testimony. The trial was a sham to get him into a plea deal where he knew Manafort would lie because Trump would pardon him in exchange for reporting secret details about the investigation to Trump. Mueller then fed him false information that got reported back to Trump which was then used on the written interview Trump just took.

Oh, and Manafort's plea deal also got invalidated for lying to the FBI and special investigators as a result.

Yep, this is what REAL 4-D chess looks like.

If I ever was in trouble for something and I knew Mueller was on the case, I would just give up, cooperate, and hope for mercy. There's no beating Mueller guys.
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Returning_CEmen
11/27/18 1:10:34 AM
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Fuck dude. Good stuff
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Bad_Mojo
11/27/18 1:13:07 AM
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Thought TT said "Mulder" and I thought it was going to be an X-Files topic
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VictimComplex
11/27/18 1:14:15 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
VictimComplex posted...
muchdran posted...
You're better than this

Trumper is SHOOK


trumper will shut the investigation down. it won't affect him. all that work will go down the toilet.

I meant muchdran the Trumper
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CM_Ponch
11/27/18 1:23:18 AM
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Outplayed
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Blue_Dream87
11/27/18 1:43:31 AM
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Fuck
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0AbsoluteZero0
11/27/18 1:44:41 AM
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Conservatrolls are shook
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ThyCorndog
11/27/18 1:45:35 AM
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oh dang
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CADE FOSTER
11/27/18 1:49:24 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
VictimComplex posted...
muchdran posted...
You're better than this

Trumper is SHOOK


trumper will shut the investigation down. it won't affect him. all that work will go down the toilet.

The last president to shut down an investigation into him was Nixon we saw what happened to him
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50Blessings
11/27/18 2:19:08 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
https://www.emptywheel.net


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King_Hellebuyck
11/27/18 9:12:07 AM
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This Mueller report will be taught in schools for years to come.
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Guide
11/27/18 9:16:49 AM
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If this is true, it's mighty fucking impressive. Like, even if 4d chess wasn't a meme, I'd still be calling it 4d chess.
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Jagr_68
11/27/18 9:19:10 AM
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MakoReizei
11/27/18 9:20:16 AM
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it'd be funny if we still hear about this Mueller stuff by the end of Trump's second term
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VTBM
11/27/18 9:23:29 AM
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MakoReizei posted...
it'd be funny if we still hear about this Mueller stuff by the end of Trump's second term

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Guide
11/27/18 9:36:54 AM
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It's funny because of the idea of Trump actually getting a second term.

My money's on him quitting and making it look like it's the librulz fault.
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Tyranthraxus
11/27/18 9:45:14 AM
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50Blessings posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
https://www.emptywheel.net


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I mean most of that stuff is straight fact. The only parts that aren't straight facts is the conjecture regarding how fucked Manafort is assuming a Trump pardon actually happens, and whether or not Whitaker can shut down the report prematurely.

Everything else is essentially known.
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ElatedVenusaur
11/27/18 9:47:58 AM
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I think it's much more straightforward than Mueller intentionally setting up. It's just Manafort tried to play Mueller and he's not even half as smart as he thinks he is. So Mueller figures out real quick Manafort is lying and lets him feed bad information to Trump, information which Trump uses to probably lie his ass off to Mueller, because he thinks he's smart too. Now that Trump has ensnared himself, Mueller gets to nail Manafort to the wall again and has a bunch more material to work with.
All because he's a competent prosecutor facing off with Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
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Tyranthraxus
11/27/18 9:50:36 AM
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Evidence seems to suggest that Mueller had extremely high anticipation levels that Manafort would lie to him after the plea deal. He probably had more plans to deal with lies than he did for dealing with the truth. It's more likely he never wanted the truth because he already knew what the truth was and hearing things he already knows from Manafort isn't helpful.
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pikachupwnage
11/27/18 9:53:52 AM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
Fuck dude. Good stuff


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Smashingpmkns
11/27/18 10:05:16 AM
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If this is true I can't wait for the HBO or FX mini series of this shit.
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Tyranthraxus
11/27/18 10:14:25 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
If this is true I can't wait for the HBO or FX mini series of this shit.

You can't write drama this good.
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LightHawKnight
11/27/18 10:22:04 AM
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Trump will probably deflect and get out of this with his stupidity like always.
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P4wn4g3
11/27/18 10:24:12 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
If this is true I can't wait for the HBO or FX mini series of this shit.

You can't write drama this good.

But isn't this an op ed piece
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FursonaNonGrata
11/27/18 10:27:30 AM
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All according to keikaku
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ElatedVenusaur
11/27/18 10:27:33 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Trump will probably deflect and get out of this with his stupidity like always.

I would be shocked if Trump actually suffers criminal consequences too. This country simply doesn't hold presidents accountable for their crimes. Never has.
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monkmith
11/27/18 10:27:53 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Trump will probably deflect and get out of this with his stupidity like always.

he'd have to be truly incompetent to not have a long line of fall guys for this. i mean reagan had dementia and still was able to set up several fall guys to take the blame for iran contra.

he did hire rudy giuliani though...
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Tyranthraxus
11/27/18 10:30:19 AM
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monkmith posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Trump will probably deflect and get out of this with his stupidity like always.

he'd have to be truly incompetent to not have a long line of fall guys for this. i mean reagan had dementia and still was able to set up several fall guys to take the blame for iran contra.

he did hire rudy giuliani though...


He had a long line of fall guys.

Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Stone, etc.

They fell.

It's getting to the point where Don Jr's turn to be the fall guy is coming up.
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SmidgeIsntBack
11/27/18 10:39:36 AM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Trump will probably deflect and get out of this with his stupidity like always.

I would be shocked if Trump actually suffers criminal consequences too. This country simply doesn't hold presidents accountable for their crimes. Never has.


I agree, but I do think most of his family is going down.
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