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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:11:00 PM
#51:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...

Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt.


But caffeine isn't harmless. It can cause harm when over-used.

The point is that saying that all drugs are the same is ridiculous. We have a ton of legal drugs that have adverse effects when abused, but we let those ones pass because they are socially acceptable.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:14:57 PM
#52:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...

Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt.


But caffeine isn't harmless. It can cause harm when over-used.

The point is that saying that all drugs are the same is ridiculous. We have a ton of legal drugs that have adverse effects when abused, but we let those ones pass because they are socially acceptable.


It was never about how harmful the drug was, at least on your side of the debate. It was always about personal freedoms and responsibility. You cant be for marijuana and not meth outsidr of bias and addictions
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A_Good_Boy
11/26/18 5:19:14 PM
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
It was never about how harmful the drug was, at least on your side of the debate.

Huh?
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:22:59 PM
#54:


A_Good_Boy posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
It was never about how harmful the drug was, at least on your side of the debate.

Huh?


If you are pro marijuana, the argument was always that its their body, their right. That means you cant be against meth and pro marijuana
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:26:38 PM
#55:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...

Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt.


But caffeine isn't harmless. It can cause harm when over-used.

The point is that saying that all drugs are the same is ridiculous. We have a ton of legal drugs that have adverse effects when abused, but we let those ones pass because they are socially acceptable.


It was never about how harmful the drug was, at least on your side of the debate. It was always about personal freedoms and responsibility. You cant be for marijuana and not meth outsidr of bias and addictions


Yes you can. They are radically different drugs with radically different effects. That being said, Portugal has decriminalized all drugs, with a resoundingly positive effect, so there is a precedent for complete decriminalization.

Also, you are assuming I'm on a specific 'side', which I don't believe I've stated.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/26/18 5:27:46 PM
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Why are you guys responding to the laziest trolling?
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:29:21 PM
#57:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...

Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt.


But caffeine isn't harmless. It can cause harm when over-used.

The point is that saying that all drugs are the same is ridiculous. We have a ton of legal drugs that have adverse effects when abused, but we let those ones pass because they are socially acceptable.


It was never about how harmful the drug was, at least on your side of the debate. It was always about personal freedoms and responsibility. You cant be for marijuana and not meth outsidr of bias and addictions


Yes you can. They are radically different drugs with radically different effects. That being said, Portugal has decriminalized all drugs, with a resoundingly positive effect, so there is a precedent for complete decriminalization.

Also, you are assuming I'm on a specific 'side', which I don't believe I've stated.


No you cant unless you are addicted to weed and not meth and just want to get high without being scared of jail
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:31:36 PM
#58:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...

Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt.


But caffeine isn't harmless. It can cause harm when over-used.

The point is that saying that all drugs are the same is ridiculous. We have a ton of legal drugs that have adverse effects when abused, but we let those ones pass because they are socially acceptable.


It was never about how harmful the drug was, at least on your side of the debate. It was always about personal freedoms and responsibility. You cant be for marijuana and not meth outsidr of bias and addictions


Yes you can. They are radically different drugs with radically different effects. That being said, Portugal has decriminalized all drugs, with a resoundingly positive effect, so there is a precedent for complete decriminalization.

Also, you are assuming I'm on a specific 'side', which I don't believe I've stated.


No you cant unless you are addicted to weed and not meth and just want to get high without being scared of jail


"No you" is not a response. We treat drugs differently depending on their effects. In fact, they are even legally distinct. So feeling one should be re-categorized does not mean that you have to believe that all categories must be abandoned.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:33:33 PM
#59:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...

Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt.


But caffeine isn't harmless. It can cause harm when over-used.

The point is that saying that all drugs are the same is ridiculous. We have a ton of legal drugs that have adverse effects when abused, but we let those ones pass because they are socially acceptable.


It was never about how harmful the drug was, at least on your side of the debate. It was always about personal freedoms and responsibility. You cant be for marijuana and not meth outsidr of bias and addictions


Yes you can. They are radically different drugs with radically different effects. That being said, Portugal has decriminalized all drugs, with a resoundingly positive effect, so there is a precedent for complete decriminalization.

Also, you are assuming I'm on a specific 'side', which I don't believe I've stated.


No you cant unless you are addicted to weed and not meth and just want to get high without being scared of jail


"No you" is not a response. We treat drugs differently depending on their effects. In fact, they are even legally distinct. So feeling one should be re-categorized does not mean that you have to believe that all categories must be abandoned.


Who cares? Everybody has a right to their own body, right?
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:34:33 PM
#60:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...

Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt.


But caffeine isn't harmless. It can cause harm when over-used.

The point is that saying that all drugs are the same is ridiculous. We have a ton of legal drugs that have adverse effects when abused, but we let those ones pass because they are socially acceptable.


It was never about how harmful the drug was, at least on your side of the debate. It was always about personal freedoms and responsibility. You cant be for marijuana and not meth outsidr of bias and addictions


Yes you can. They are radically different drugs with radically different effects. That being said, Portugal has decriminalized all drugs, with a resoundingly positive effect, so there is a precedent for complete decriminalization.

Also, you are assuming I'm on a specific 'side', which I don't believe I've stated.


No you cant unless you are addicted to weed and not meth and just want to get high without being scared of jail


"No you" is not a response. We treat drugs differently depending on their effects. In fact, they are even legally distinct. So feeling one should be re-categorized does not mean that you have to believe that all categories must be abandoned.


Who cares? Everybody has a right to their own body, right?


Lazy strawman. I never said anything even remotely like that.
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A_Good_Boy
11/26/18 5:35:22 PM
#61:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...

Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt.


But caffeine isn't harmless. It can cause harm when over-used.

The point is that saying that all drugs are the same is ridiculous. We have a ton of legal drugs that have adverse effects when abused, but we let those ones pass because they are socially acceptable.


It was never about how harmful the drug was, at least on your side of the debate. It was always about personal freedoms and responsibility. You cant be for marijuana and not meth outsidr of bias and addictions


Yes you can. They are radically different drugs with radically different effects. That being said, Portugal has decriminalized all drugs, with a resoundingly positive effect, so there is a precedent for complete decriminalization.

Also, you are assuming I'm on a specific 'side', which I don't believe I've stated.


No you cant unless you are addicted to weed and not meth and just want to get high without being scared of jail


"No you" is not a response. We treat drugs differently depending on their effects. In fact, they are even legally distinct. So feeling one should be re-categorized does not mean that you have to believe that all categories must be abandoned.


Who cares? Everybody has a right to their own body, right?

Forget which stance you were supposed to be arguing for?
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voldothegr8
11/26/18 5:37:18 PM
#62:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt.

For adults it pretty much is harmless, minus smoke damage which isn't a problem in 2018
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:37:34 PM
#63:


No. Im anti drugs. But even if i dont mind what other people do with their own bodies, nobody should be able to pick and choose which drugs are ok. You cant be pro weed and anti meth without being a huge monumental hypocrite.
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:39:04 PM
#64:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
No. Im anti drugs. But even if i dont mind what other people do with their own bodies, nobody should be able to pick and choose which drugs are ok. You cant be pro weed and anti meth without being a huge monumental hypocrite.


All drugs are not the same. Legally, all drugs are not even remotely treated the same.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:40:24 PM
#65:


And again, who cares? You want to control what people put in their bodies?
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:41:49 PM
#66:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
And again, who cares? You want to control what people put in their bodies?


I never stated my point, I pointed out that your assertion that all drugs are the same is wrong both from a societal and a legal perspective.

However, if you are saying you are against controlling what people put into their bodies, but also anti-drug, it sounds like you are the hypocrite.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:45:03 PM
#67:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
And again, who cares? You want to control what people put in their bodies?


I never stated my point, I pointed out that your assertion that all drugs are the same is wrong both from a societal and a legal perspective.

However, if you are saying you are against controlling what people put into their bodies, but also anti-drug, it sounds like you are the hypocrite.


Im not a hypocrite. Ive no issue telling people whats ok and not ok to put in their bodies. Drugs are bad.

Im also saying i dont care about drug classes. You either legalise all or none of them. At the end of the day, you cant say its ok to do pot and other people who might enjoy meth can go fuck themselves. Thats not logically consistent. The whole argument for pot is that its your body, your right. Every argument for pot can be used for meth.
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RiderofHogs
11/26/18 5:45:17 PM
#68:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
Let us pump our own gas while we're at it

You would be surprised at the panic that would happen with that.
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Trickfinger
11/26/18 5:45:29 PM
#69:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
No. Im anti drugs. But even if i dont mind what other people do with their own bodies, nobody should be able to pick and choose which drugs are ok. You cant be pro weed and anti meth without being a huge monumental hypocrite.

guess we're hypocrites then. thumbs up for weed and fuck heroin.
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:46:56 PM
#70:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Im also saying i dont care about drug classes. You either legalise all or none of them.


So you want caffeine to be made illegal, gotcha.

___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
You either legalise all or none of them.


It's not hypocritical to treat each situation independently.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:47:11 PM
#71:


Trickfinger posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
No. Im anti drugs. But even if i dont mind what other people do with their own bodies, nobody should be able to pick and choose which drugs are ok. You cant be pro weed and anti meth without being a huge monumental hypocrite.

guess we're hypocrites then. thumbs up for weed and fuck heroin.


Well at least you admit you are just a pot head. Thats actually a positive step believe it or not.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:48:22 PM
#72:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Im also saying i dont care about drug classes. You either legalise all or none of them.


So you want caffeine to be made illegal, gotcha.

___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
You either legalise all or none of them.


It's not hypocritical to treat each situation independently.


It is hypocritical because its not your right to treat other peoples personal choices at all. Get off your high horse. Its legalize all or legalize none. Any other opinion is hypocritical.
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:49:24 PM
#73:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Im also saying i dont care about drug classes. You either legalise all or none of them.


So you want caffeine to be made illegal, gotcha.

___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
You either legalise all or none of them.


It's not hypocritical to treat each situation independently.


It is hypocritical because its not your right to treat other peoples personal choices at all. Get off your high horse. Its legalize all or legalize none. Any other opinion is hypocritical.


So you believe caffeine should be made illegal.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:51:08 PM
#74:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Im also saying i dont care about drug classes. You either legalise all or none of them.


So you want caffeine to be made illegal, gotcha.

___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
You either legalise all or none of them.


It's not hypocritical to treat each situation independently.


It is hypocritical because its not your right to treat other peoples personal choices at all. Get off your high horse. Its legalize all or legalize none. Any other opinion is hypocritical.


So you believe caffeine should be made illegal.


No. But im not a hypocrite. Im perfectly ok with saying whats fine and not. Its your side thats hypocritical. At least the above poster admits they just want to get high. Why cany you admit it.
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Trickfinger
11/26/18 5:51:27 PM
#75:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Trickfinger posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
No. Im anti drugs. But even if i dont mind what other people do with their own bodies, nobody should be able to pick and choose which drugs are ok. You cant be pro weed and anti meth without being a huge monumental hypocrite.

guess we're hypocrites then. thumbs up for weed and fuck heroin.


Well at least you admit you are just a pot head. Thats actually a positive step believe it or not.

blah blah blah.
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:52:24 PM
#76:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Im also saying i dont care about drug classes. You either legalise all or none of them.


So you want caffeine to be made illegal, gotcha.

___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
You either legalise all or none of them.


It's not hypocritical to treat each situation independently.


It is hypocritical because its not your right to treat other peoples personal choices at all. Get off your high horse. Its legalize all or legalize none. Any other opinion is hypocritical.


So you believe caffeine should be made illegal.


No. But im not a hypocrite. Im perfectly ok with saying whats fine and not. Its your side thats hypocritical. At least the above poster admits they just want to get high. Why cany you admit it.


Caffeine is a drug. You told me you either have to have all drugs legal or none. So therefore, you are for a prohibition against caffeine.

Unless ... of course ... you're a hypocrite?
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:55:23 PM
#77:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Im also saying i dont care about drug classes. You either legalise all or none of them.


So you want caffeine to be made illegal, gotcha.

___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
You either legalise all or none of them.


It's not hypocritical to treat each situation independently.


It is hypocritical because its not your right to treat other peoples personal choices at all. Get off your high horse. Its legalize all or legalize none. Any other opinion is hypocritical.


So you believe caffeine should be made illegal.


No. But im not a hypocrite. Im perfectly ok with saying whats fine and not. Its your side thats hypocritical. At least the above poster admits they just want to get high. Why cany you admit it.


Caffeine is a drug. You told me you either have to have all drugs legal or none. So therefore, you are for a prohibition against caffeine.

Unless ... of course ... you're a hypocrite?


I say that with your sides logic. Not mine. I know caffeine is a drug and im ok with it. Pot? Not so much. Your side is the hypocrotical side until you just admit that you dont give a shit about other drug users. You are one of them and wont even distinguish yourself from them.
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:56:47 PM
#78:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
I say that with your sides logic. Not mine. I know caffeine is a drug and im ok with it. Pot? Not so much. Your side is the hypocrotical side until you just admit that you dont give a shit about other drug users. You are one of them and wont even distinguish yourself from them.


But no one said the reason for legalization is that all drugs are the same. You made that up.

You also said you didn't believe in drug classes.
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justaguy3492
11/26/18 5:57:05 PM
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As someone who lives in Philly this makes me hyped. One short bridge ride away the good legal stuff.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 6:00:19 PM
#80:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
I say that with your sides logic. Not mine. I know caffeine is a drug and im ok with it. Pot? Not so much. Your side is the hypocrotical side until you just admit that you dont give a shit about other drug users. You are one of them and wont even distinguish yourself from them.


But no one said the reason for legalization is that all drugs are the same. You made that up.

You also said you didn't believe in drug classes.


But it is the same. People want to use the drug of their choice and get high and mighty about others. Hence you are pro weed and anti meth.

And no, i didnt say i didnt believe in drug classes. I said i dont care
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 6:01:01 PM
#81:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
I say that with your sides logic. Not mine. I know caffeine is a drug and im ok with it. Pot? Not so much. Your side is the hypocrotical side until you just admit that you dont give a shit about other drug users. You are one of them and wont even distinguish yourself from them.


But no one said the reason for legalization is that all drugs are the same. You made that up.

You also said you didn't believe in drug classes.


But it is the same. People want to use the drug of their choice and get high and mighty about others. Hence you are pro weed and anti meth.

And no, i didnt say i didnt believe in drug classes. I said i dont care


No, I never said any of that. You are making up shit because you don't actually have an argument.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 6:02:35 PM
#82:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
I say that with your sides logic. Not mine. I know caffeine is a drug and im ok with it. Pot? Not so much. Your side is the hypocrotical side until you just admit that you dont give a shit about other drug users. You are one of them and wont even distinguish yourself from them.


But no one said the reason for legalization is that all drugs are the same. You made that up.

You also said you didn't believe in drug classes.


But it is the same. People want to use the drug of their choice and get high and mighty about others. Hence you are pro weed and anti meth.

And no, i didnt say i didnt believe in drug classes. I said i dont care


No, I never said any of that. You are making up shit because you don't actually have an argument.


Nope. Its fair to say you havent made a point of your own. But you also havent given a reason to legalize weed and not meth outside of "their different! !!!"
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 6:03:50 PM
#83:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
I say that with your sides logic. Not mine. I know caffeine is a drug and im ok with it. Pot? Not so much. Your side is the hypocrotical side until you just admit that you dont give a shit about other drug users. You are one of them and wont even distinguish yourself from them.


But no one said the reason for legalization is that all drugs are the same. You made that up.

You also said you didn't believe in drug classes.


But it is the same. People want to use the drug of their choice and get high and mighty about others. Hence you are pro weed and anti meth.

And no, i didnt say i didnt believe in drug classes. I said i dont care


No, I never said any of that. You are making up shit because you don't actually have an argument.


Nope. Its fair to say you havent made a point of your own. But you also havent given a reason to legalize weed and not meth outside of "their different! !!!"


Each drug should be evaluated and treated on a case-by-case basis. If you don't understand my point yet, I'm not sure how to dumb it down any further.
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 6:06:18 PM
#84:


Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
I say that with your sides logic. Not mine. I know caffeine is a drug and im ok with it. Pot? Not so much. Your side is the hypocrotical side until you just admit that you dont give a shit about other drug users. You are one of them and wont even distinguish yourself from them.


But no one said the reason for legalization is that all drugs are the same. You made that up.

You also said you didn't believe in drug classes.


But it is the same. People want to use the drug of their choice and get high and mighty about others. Hence you are pro weed and anti meth.

And no, i didnt say i didnt believe in drug classes. I said i dont care


No, I never said any of that. You are making up shit because you don't actually have an argument.


Nope. Its fair to say you havent made a point of your own. But you also havent given a reason to legalize weed and not meth outside of "their different! !!!"


Each drug should be evaluated and treated on a case-by-case basis. If you don't understand my point yet, I'm not sure how to dumb it down any further.


You havent even expanded on your point. Youve just said "bbbbut they are different!!!!". Your logic sucks. What else can i do? Ive given you a chance and you come uo short every time. My logic is flawless. Just admit you just want to get high and dont care if meth heads dont get high
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justaguy3492
11/26/18 6:06:52 PM
#85:


___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Nope. Its fair to say you havent made a point of your own. But you also havent given a reason to legalize weed and not meth outside of "their different! !!!"


Lmao if you can't see why someone would think differently about meth than they do about weed then you need to put the keyboard down and experience life. The real world isn't A/B logic.
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Vamp_Aubrey
11/26/18 6:07:30 PM
#86:


If we are gonna legalize marijuana, we might as well legalize heroin
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 6:09:28 PM
#87:


justaguy3492 posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
Nope. Its fair to say you havent made a point of your own. But you also havent given a reason to legalize weed and not meth outside of "their different! !!!"


Lmao if you can't see why someone would think differently about meth than they do about weed then you need to put the keyboard down and experience life. The real world isn't A/B logic.


Again, who cares? Its not your body or right to tell someone what to with their own body. This is why pot heads arguments always fail unless they either take a legakize all mentality which i respect
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