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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 2:56:47 PM
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I feel like there's too many people in the US already.

For example, have you guys tried to go camping in the past 15 years or so? Every place is just crawling with people. Shit, there are people who appear to be LIVING in campgrounds these days. When I was a kid, we could drive 2 hours from town and have a nice secluded camp right next to running water with maybe only 1 or 2 other groups of campers in the entire site. And there would be like 10 sites in just that area. Now it seems like every fucking site is almost full. It sucks and it's sad as fuck. I miss the days when you could actually get away from people and enjoy the wilderness.

Traffic is just awful in most cities with more than 100,000 people in it. I'm against increases in traffic, which is another reason I'm against illegal immigration.

Pollution. More people = more pollution. More garbage in our landfills. More air pollution. More water pollution. More noise pollution. Since I dislike pollution, I am against illegal immigration.

On top of illegal immigration, I think there should be a heavy restriction on the amount of legal immigration we receive. It should also be based on our country's needs. Do we need doctors? Fuck yeah we do. So let's let people who are doctors get the fuck in here. And also let's get them expedited on obtaining their license to start practicing medicine because the current system is really fucking broken when it comes to immigrant doctors.

So yeah, that's my stance. We are too over-populated for my comfort. I don't care how much more crowded other countries are. I just remember a time when this country was less crowded and I miss it. I don't care what color anyone's skin is or anything like that either.
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knutjob
11/23/18 2:58:31 PM
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Nobody is illegally immigrating for the camping
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HighOnSolar
11/23/18 2:58:36 PM
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the main reason i oppose this topic is because i have more than one and a half brain cells
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 2:59:33 PM
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knutjob posted...
Nobody is illegally immigrating for the camping


I'm sure at least some of them go camping.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:00:32 PM
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HighOnSolar posted...
the main reason i oppose this topic is because i have more than one and a half brain cells


How do you even "oppose" a topic?

Care to point out anything you disagree with? Do you disagree that more people makes the country more crowded? Do you think they don't cause an increase in traffic and pollution? Or do you just think it's worth the trade-off?
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HighOnSolar
11/23/18 3:03:25 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...
How do you even "oppose" a topic?


easily
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SailorGoon
11/23/18 3:07:06 PM
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I disagree with your sentiments, but as a Californian, one who lives in Southern California to be specific, I do agree there's a slight overpopulation issue.

I think there needs to be better regulations in place. Everyone who comes to the states from down south either comes through Texas and Cali. A lot end up staying. I get why. Close to the border. That's where family is close. Still, there are other states to go to. People who come in gotta keep moving. Cali and Texas are some of the most populated states in the U. S.

I'm all for people seeking new life in the US. Just go somewhere other than Cali. We don't need any more people.
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bknight
11/23/18 3:08:22 PM
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Well stats show that the US birthrate is at 1.80 babies per woman, a 30 year low, so this means that without immigration, when you retire, there won't be enough workers to support your social security, but yea camp grounds overcrowded, got it.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:09:02 PM
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I disagree...I live in a northern state and would prefer that the over-population problems stay south. Then again, I'd prefer we didn't have them at all :)
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lightwarrior78
11/23/18 3:09:28 PM
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I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:09:51 PM
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bknight posted...
Well stats show that the US birthrate is at 1.80 babies per woman, a 30 year low, so this means that without immigration, when you retire, there won't be enough workers to support your social security, buy yea camp grounds overcrowded, got it.


Oh, believe me...I have long since stopped relying on SS for my retirement plan. Everyone else should do the same thing. So I definitely wouldn't mind not getting that.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 3:10:09 PM
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lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:12:58 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 3:15:47 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.

Its not subjective at all. The US is full of under developed land. You going to crowded places does not make the country overcrowded as a whole.
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bknight
11/23/18 3:16:00 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...
I feel like there's too many people in the US already.

On top of illegal immigration, I think there should be a heavy restriction on the amount of legal immigration we receive. It should also be based on our country's needs. Do we need doctors? Fuck yeah we do. So let's let people who are doctors get the fuck in here. And also let's get them expedited on obtaining their license to start practicing medicine because the current system is really fucking broken when it comes to immigrant doctors.


This is the part where he rants about only having people with ph.D into the country, to that guy who deleted his post.
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Silver Bearings
11/23/18 3:16:43 PM
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The main reason I'm against illegal immigration is because it's illegal.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:18:26 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.

Its not subjective at all. The US is full of under developed land. You going to crowded places does not make the country overcrowded as a whole.


I'm sorry, but it is absolutely subjective. An objective statement would be "The US has approximately _______ square miles of underdeveloped land". Whether or not something is crowded is always going to be a discussion based on subjectivity.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:19:30 PM
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bknight posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
I feel like there's too many people in the US already.

On top of illegal immigration, I think there should be a heavy restriction on the amount of legal immigration we receive. It should also be based on our country's needs. Do we need doctors? Fuck yeah we do. So let's let people who are doctors get the fuck in here. And also let's get them expedited on obtaining their license to start practicing medicine because the current system is really fucking broken when it comes to immigrant doctors.


This is the part where he rants about only having people with ph.D into the country, to that guy who deleted his post.


Not "only"....just used that as an example. If we need engineers, let them in. If we need janitors, let them in. If we need agriculture workers, let them in. But do it through a legal process and please be sure the need for them is dire enough.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 3:19:50 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.

Its not subjective at all. The US is full of under developed land. You going to crowded places does not make the country overcrowded as a whole.


I'm sorry, but it is absolutely subjective. An objective statement would be "The US has approximately _______ square miles of underdeveloped land". Whether or not something is crowded is always going to be a discussion based on subjectivity.

If a large portion of the country is in no ways crowded, no, its not subjective.
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Prestoff
11/23/18 3:20:52 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.

Its not subjective at all. The US is full of under developed land. You going to crowded places does not make the country overcrowded as a whole.


This, most people flock to certain parts of the Country (which are predominately cities) which makes those places overpopulated, but not the whole country as a whole. With that said, I don't blame them. Job opportunities, weather, family, culture, etc. there just so many reasons people go to those specific areas.

Anyways I agree, we do need to tone down on the illegal immigration, the best way to fight it is by penalizing corporations that are hiring illegals. The main reason most illegals come to this country is because of the job opportunities and getting paid under the table. Target the main reason rather than trying to rubber band it with a wall.
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lightwarrior78
11/23/18 3:22:00 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Note the term in there : LONG TERM.

I mean, are places people are fleeing from going to become better by magic so people don't have to flee form them anymore, or are to door going to be open until the livable areas are overcrowded and the rest have to make home in Canda's North West Territories.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:22:14 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.

Its not subjective at all. The US is full of under developed land. You going to crowded places does not make the country overcrowded as a whole.


I'm sorry, but it is absolutely subjective. An objective statement would be "The US has approximately _______ square miles of underdeveloped land". Whether or not something is crowded is always going to be a discussion based on subjectivity.

If a large portion of the country is in no ways crowded, no, its not subjective.


Yes it is. I gave you an example of a subjective statement. Not every part of a country needs to feel crowded for somebody to make a legitimate claim that the country as a whole needs to feels crowded anyway.
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KStateKing17
11/23/18 3:22:57 PM
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After driving from Missouri to Kentucky the other day, I'm pretty sure there is plenty of unused space in this country. That being said I'm not for open borders either.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 3:23:33 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.

Its not subjective at all. The US is full of under developed land. You going to crowded places does not make the country overcrowded as a whole.


I'm sorry, but it is absolutely subjective. An objective statement would be "The US has approximately _______ square miles of underdeveloped land". Whether or not something is crowded is always going to be a discussion based on subjectivity.

If a large portion of the country is in no ways crowded, no, its not subjective.


Yes it is. I gave you an example of a subjective statement. Not every part of a country needs to feel crowded for somebody to make a legitimate claim that the country as a whole needs to feels crowded anyway.

Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:23:50 PM
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Prestoff posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.

Its not subjective at all. The US is full of under developed land. You going to crowded places does not make the country overcrowded as a whole.


This, most people flock to certain parts of the Country (which are predominately cities) which makes those places overpopulated, but not the whole country as a whole. With that said, I don't blame them. Job opportunities, weather, family, culture, etc. there just so many reasons people go to those specific areas.

Anyways I agree, we do need to tone down on the illegal immigration, the best way to fight it is by penalizing corporations that are hiring illegals. The main reason most illegals come to this country is because of the job opportunities and getting paid under the table. Target the main reason rather than trying to rubber band it with a wall.


How do we penalize corporations and other people for hiring immigrants, though? That seems like a really expensive thing to try and monitor.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:24:49 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.
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Ozai_Was_Right
11/23/18 3:25:26 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.

Will they also agree with you on the definition of overpopulated?
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The Great Muta 22
11/23/18 3:26:35 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.

Its not subjective at all. The US is full of under developed land. You going to crowded places does not make the country overcrowded as a whole.


I'm sorry, but it is absolutely subjective. An objective statement would be "The US has approximately _______ square miles of underdeveloped land". Whether or not something is crowded is always going to be a discussion based on subjectivity.

If a large portion of the country is in no ways crowded, no, its not subjective.


Yes it is. I gave you an example of a subjective statement. Not every part of a country needs to feel crowded for somebody to make a legitimate claim that the country as a whole needs to feels crowded anyway.


Your entire premise is a subjective thought that's not rooted in factual evidence in the slightest.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:27:15 PM
#30:


Ozai_Was_Right posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.

Will they also agree with you on the definition of overpopulated?


Yes, they will agree with me about the definition of overpopulated....that it is a subjective term in which people will have varying opinions about it's application.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 3:27:55 PM
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HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.

The old lie about a lie is not a smart tactic either, its very easy to see through it. The country as a whole is objectively not under crowded.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:28:34 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Your entire premise is a subjective thought that's not rooted in factual evidence in the slightest.


Yes, I know that already.

Except for my statements about pollution and such. That is pretty much a given. More humans = more pollution. You can't argue against that.
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Prestoff
11/23/18 3:29:18 PM
#33:


HenryAllbright posted...
Prestoff posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
I have been wondering what the long term plan is for immigration and increasing refugees. We can't fit 7.5 billion people into one hemisphere because it's the only place in the world to live in anymore because larger and larger chunks of the world are getting worse and worse to live in.

The US isnt over crowded at all as a nation.


Well now that is subjective. Compared to what it was when I was a kid, it's definitely more crowded and you can see the effects of that. Compared to most other countries? Possibly not. But just because it's better to be in the mouth of a shark than the belly doesn't mean it isn't best to not be inside the shark at all.

Its not subjective at all. The US is full of under developed land. You going to crowded places does not make the country overcrowded as a whole.


This, most people flock to certain parts of the Country (which are predominately cities) which makes those places overpopulated, but not the whole country as a whole. With that said, I don't blame them. Job opportunities, weather, family, culture, etc. there just so many reasons people go to those specific areas.

Anyways I agree, we do need to tone down on the illegal immigration, the best way to fight it is by penalizing corporations that are hiring illegals. The main reason most illegals come to this country is because of the job opportunities and getting paid under the table. Target the main reason rather than trying to rubber band it with a wall.


How do we penalize corporations and other people for hiring immigrants, though? That seems like a really expensive thing to try and monitor.


Probably easier and cheaper than building and maintaining a wall that probably won't work.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:29:22 PM
#34:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.

The old lie about a lie is not a smart tactic either, its very easy to see through it. The country as a whole is objectively not under crowded.


I know it's not under crowded. I've been saying it's over crowded this entire time.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 3:29:58 PM
#35:


HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.

The old lie about a lie is not a smart tactic either, its very easy to see through it. The country as a whole is objectively not under crowded.


I know it's not under crowded. I've been saying it's over crowded this entire time.

Whoops, wrong word. But you knew that
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:32:56 PM
#36:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.

The old lie about a lie is not a smart tactic either, its very easy to see through it. The country as a whole is objectively not under crowded.


I know it's not under crowded. I've been saying it's over crowded this entire time.

Whoops, wrong word. But you knew that


Well either way....I'm pretty sure I'm right about subjective vs objective statements. It's like that example...."The sun is hot"...it's a subjective statement. The same thing applies to all adjectives such as hot, cold, fun, boring, sensitive, crowded, bare, etc...their applications are all subjective. But saying "The sun is ______ degrees" is not subjective.

A basic google search will prove that I'm right. I promise.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 3:34:21 PM
#37:


HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.

The old lie about a lie is not a smart tactic either, its very easy to see through it. The country as a whole is objectively not under crowded.


I know it's not under crowded. I've been saying it's over crowded this entire time.

Whoops, wrong word. But you knew that


Well either way....I'm pretty sure I'm right about subjective vs objective statements. It's like that example...."The sun is hot"...it's a subjective statement. The same thing applies to all adjectives such as hot, cold, fun, boring, sensitive, crowded, bare, etc...their applications are all subjective. But saying "The sun is ______ degrees" is not subjective.

A basic google search will prove that I'm right. I promise.

The sun is objectively hot by all standards any normal person would be using so even your example fails. The fact that you dont understand context isnt anyone elses fault.
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The Great Muta 22
11/23/18 3:34:52 PM
#38:


HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.

The old lie about a lie is not a smart tactic either, its very easy to see through it. The country as a whole is objectively not under crowded.


I know it's not under crowded. I've been saying it's over crowded this entire time.


But it's not
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:37:40 PM
#39:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Blatantly lying is a bizarre tactic


Ask any college professor. They will agree with me about the definition of a subjective vs objective statement.

The old lie about a lie is not a smart tactic either, its very easy to see through it. The country as a whole is objectively not under crowded.


I know it's not under crowded. I've been saying it's over crowded this entire time.

Whoops, wrong word. But you knew that


Well either way....I'm pretty sure I'm right about subjective vs objective statements. It's like that example...."The sun is hot"...it's a subjective statement. The same thing applies to all adjectives such as hot, cold, fun, boring, sensitive, crowded, bare, etc...their applications are all subjective. But saying "The sun is ______ degrees" is not subjective.

A basic google search will prove that I'm right. I promise.

The sun is objectively hot by all standards any normal person would be using so even your example fails. The fact that you dont understand context isnt anyone elses fault.


No, it's not. But I get what you're saying. You're saying one wouldn't be able to make a reasonable claim that the sun isn't hot, and I agree. But it's not like the claim I'm making is anything like that. I'm saying that the US is too overcrowded for my taste. Are you saying I'm lying when I say that?
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 3:38:58 PM
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Buddy you already lost this argument, go move to the woods in Wisconsin and tell me how crowded it is
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:40:35 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Buddy you already lost this argument, go move to the woods in Wisconsin and tell me how crowded it is


I live in a place that's even less crowded than Wisconsin.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:41:42 PM
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There was never really even an argument in the first place. I just posted my own opinion and feelings on the matter. All you can do is accuse me of lying about my own feelings, or express why you disagree. Trying to tell me that I'm "wrong" about this is not really a valid response to this topic at all, linguistically speaking.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 3:41:48 PM
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Oh so youve been deliberately lying and have misconstrued the overpopulation of the US for the sake of a troll topic despite knowing how factually inaccurate your claims are.

Thats much worse than just being uninformed.
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The Great Muta 22
11/23/18 3:48:41 PM
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In 1990 the population was about 250 million where as in the 2010 census it was about 310 million. Which may seem like a lot but it's more of an issue of the density of cities on the rise and not a scenario where there's an over crowding issue in the country. Likewise the percentage of growth has been on a decline in the US since the early 90s.
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HenryAllbright
11/23/18 3:53:16 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Oh so youve been deliberately lying and have misconstrued the overpopulation of the US for the sake of a troll topic despite knowing how factually inaccurate your claims are.

Thats much worse than just being uninformed.


What are you even talking about? I rooted all my claims into my own personal feelings. You know you can't argue against the fact that more people = more space taken up, more pollution, and more traffic, right? It would be unreasonable to disagree with that.

I never once tried to claim that the US is more overpopulated than other countries or that there weren't places that are undeveloped. My use of the word was explained right in the sentence I used it in....that the US is too populated "for my comfort". And it is. Do you disagree with that?
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GFAQz
11/23/18 4:19:35 PM
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DanAnsumHandsom
11/23/18 4:21:39 PM
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Honest hard working legal immigrants can't make a decent living because of criminal illegal immigrants
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Fam_Fam
11/23/18 4:33:47 PM
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the sun is hot is not an objective statement, lol

it's relative to what you are comparing to
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