Poll of the Day > Wait why can't vegans eat cheese?

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Yellow posted...

There is no cheese industry. When you buy cheese you support the meat industry.

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Doctor Foxx posted...

Not all vegetarians eat dairy. Nor do all vegetarians eat eggs. Eggs are not considered vegetarian in Indian, for example.

Then India is wrong.

Doctor Foxx posted...

Imagine how much land could be saved by not feeding billions of animals to inefficiently create meat

Absolutely zero. The land would just be replaced with apartment buildings.

LinkPizza posted...

I feel like I know what BloodWhen_iWipe is trying to say. But it seems like others dont...

Nah they do. It's just the typical vegan attitude to ignore it.

Mead posted...

If the cows were treated even somewhat humanely a gallon of milk would cost over $20

Citation needed.
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Would a vegan drink milk from a cow raised cruelty-free that was born from cruelty-free raised cow parents?

@Doctor_Foxx
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Would a vegan drink milk from a cow raised cruelty-free that was born from cruelty-free raised cow parents?

@Doctor_Foxx

You'd have to ask each one identifying as vegan individually

Ultimately no vegan wouid do so

I personally would not
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Let's remember that vegans forgo animals products because it's cruel to eat animals despite human physiology requiring it, not at the level they are currently consumed. It's the difference between feeding people and having a bunch of wild animal carcasses laying around.

Doctor Foxx posted...

You'd have to ask each one identifying as vegan individually

That's hard to do.

Doctor Foxx posted...

Ultimately no vegan wouid do so

Great job assuming all vegans answers.

@Doctor Foxx posted...

I personally would not

So, even if the cruelty aspect was removed, neither yourself or all other vegans, would even eat an unfertilized egg laid naturally in order to survive?
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Great job assuming all vegans answers.

Well it is technically true. They wouldn't be vegan anymore.
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Revelation34 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

Great job assuming all vegans answers.

Well it is technically true. They wouldn't be vegan anymore.

That's exactly it

They would not be a vegan if they did it
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SunWuKung420 posted...

So, even if the cruelty aspect was removed, neither yourself or all other vegans, would even eat an unfertilized egg laid naturally in order to survive?

Uh what?

I don't have to costume eggs to survive, eggs are not something essential to human survival, so I don't touch them. I can't speak for everyone in a group

But anyone eating animal products is, by definition, not vegan

Maybe you mean to ask "would you give up being vegan for survival" which is something rather different
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Abortion is okay
But eating cheese isn't.
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Revelation34 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

Great job assuming all vegans answers.

Well it is technically true. They wouldn't be vegan anymore.

But if vegan is animal-cruelty based and since animal consumption is vital to human physiology, if animal consumption was balanced and not cruel, would vegans exist?

Yes, I agree that the majority of America, not the world, treats its feedstock (and most of the human workforce) as expendable creatures that don't deserve at least a moderate quality of life, human or otherwise.

I do believe that animal consumption is beneficial and sustainably manageable.
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You gotta squeeze the teet to make'a the cheese!
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SunWuKung420 posted...

animal consumption is vital to human physiology

False

SunWuKung420 posted...

if animal consumption was balanced and not cruel, would vegans exist?

Yes

Some people believe it is immoral to take a life for no reason

Vegetarian, and vegan, cultures have existed for longer than most currently practiced religions
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I am NOT going to read this topic, but I agree with a drastic reduction in meat and dairy consumption, for economic purposes. Somewhat for ethical purposes, because I believe animals at least deserve a good habitat, but I am not ethically opposed to consuming meat/dairy, as animals would suffer a much worse fate in nature. We can ethically kill animals, in my opinion. I understand if people disagree with that. I also personally think it's perfectly fine and ethical to milk a happy cow. I'm a little more confused on that one, but ok. It would be beneficial for health and economic reasons to reduce our meat and dairy intake.

"I've got mouths to feed and unnecessary beef is more cows to breed" -GZA/Genius
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Marianna posted...

Abortion is okay
But eating cheese isn't.

I think you meant to say eating meat.
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Vegetarian offers more leeway. (And indulge me for two minutes because I haven't said "vegan" yet.)

You can have vegetarian cheese and non-vegetarian cheese for varying degrees of vegetarian; some vegetarians won't eat any animals, some may allow themselves to eat animal products, some will exclude specific animals. Back to cheese: cheese is commonly made with rennet -- https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Rennet -- TL;DR, it's dead baby-cow guts, specifically some bacteria that grows there. Vegetarian cheese is made with milk or rennet alternatives, such as fungus instead of milk or vinegar instead of rennet.

Vegan cheese does not exist because vegans are super-strict. They might as well be eating just fruits, roots, nuts and seeds.

Doctor Foxx posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

animal consumption is vital to human physiology

False

SunWuKung420 posted...

if animal consumption was balanced and not cruel, would vegans exist?

Yes

Some people believe it is immoral to take a life for no reason

Vegetarian, and vegan, cultures have existed for longer than most currently practiced religions

1. the reason is food.
2. if an animal died from an accident or something, a vegan still wouldn't eat it. clearly it isn't just about that.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

2. if an animal died from an accident or something, a vegan still wouldn't eat it. clearly it isn't just about that.

eating roadkill to own the libs

Krazy_Kirby posted...

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Doctor Foxx posted...

Revelation34 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

Great job assuming all vegans answers.

Well it is technically true. They wouldn't be vegan anymore.

That's exactly it

They would not be a vegan if they did it

The topic title is throwing people off. I clarified it in later posts but I don't think people are reading through the whole thread.

BloodWhen_iWipe posted...

The topic title is throwing people off. I clarified it in later posts but I don't think people are reading through the whole thread.

You should be asking if they would become vegetarian instead.
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