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hotcegaI
11/20/18 8:37:03 PM
#52:


MakoReizei posted...

Male circumcision is not comparable to female genital mutilation

well we know that
for one it's not considered a crime in most countries
it's also not something young girls are kidnapped and taken out of the country for
it's got legitimatey medical reasons

meanwhile FGM is done to make them less female
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MakoReizei
11/20/18 8:37:09 PM
#53:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
MakoReizei posted...
Doom_Art posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Can we start saying "fuck Islam" openly now? Or is this not enough for everyone?

I mean it's not like people say "fuck Jews" whenever there's a story about male circumcision

Well maybe some people do, but they're weird.

Male circumcision is not comparable to female genital mutilation


It absolutely is. You can shut the fuck up now, buddy.

No it's not. You shut the fuck up.

It would only be equivalent if circumcision was cutting off the tip of the penis.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/20/18 8:38:07 PM
#54:


MakoReizei posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
MakoReizei posted...
Doom_Art posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Can we start saying "fuck Islam" openly now? Or is this not enough for everyone?

I mean it's not like people say "fuck Jews" whenever there's a story about male circumcision

Well maybe some people do, but they're weird.

Male circumcision is not comparable to female genital mutilation


It absolutely is. You can shut the fuck up now, buddy.

No it's not. You shut the fuck up.

It would only be equivalent if circumcision was cutting off the tip of the penis.


It is genital mutilation and affects general and sexual well-being. Shut the fuck up buddy.
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Tmaster148
11/20/18 8:39:16 PM
#55:


I find it weird how much Proudclad wants the federal to control what people can do their genitals.
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Questionmarktarius
11/20/18 8:40:32 PM
#56:


Friedman also noted that although Congress may regulate a practice if it is "commercial or economic in nature and that substantially affects interstate commerce," but "as despicable as [female genital mutilation] may be, it is essentially a criminal assault" and not a commercial or economic enterprise, Friedman wrote.

The judge has a pretty good point here.
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Tyranthraxus
11/20/18 8:41:06 PM
#57:


hotcegaI posted...
jumi posted...


Judaism multilates boys every day, but yeah, it's totally just Islam.

one is a procedure done to prevent females from enjoying sex
the other is literally a bit if skin cut

You know what else is just a little bit of skin? Your eyelids.
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hotcegaI
11/20/18 8:41:36 PM
#58:


Tyranthraxus posted...

You know what else is just a little bit of skin? Your eyelids.

another alt of tc?
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hotcegaI
11/20/18 8:43:09 PM
#60:


I marked post 55
tc is making a joke out of something as sickening as mutilating girls

there's no reasno for it to continue
get help
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FLUFFYGERM
11/20/18 8:44:05 PM
#61:


Imagine being such a misandrist that you go out of your way to pretend that male mutilation is somehow less severe and less worth our attention than female mutilation even though that is literally not true and even though only one of the two is legal and widely practiced in civilized countries in 2018.
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Tyranthraxus
11/20/18 8:44:39 PM
#62:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
MakoReizei posted...
Doom_Art posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Can we start saying "fuck Islam" openly now? Or is this not enough for everyone?

I mean it's not like people say "fuck Jews" whenever there's a story about male circumcision

Well maybe some people do, but they're weird.

Male circumcision is not comparable to female genital mutilation

Yes it is.
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hotcegaI
11/20/18 8:44:49 PM
#63:


proudclad assuming you really are that user

http://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/female-genital-mutilation

now for once in your life read a fucking article and stop being annoying eh?
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Muffinz0rz
11/20/18 8:45:47 PM
#64:


this topic is going places
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/20/18 8:46:39 PM
#65:


hotcegaI posted...
oh wow tcis proudclad

and i'm not a


Hey @hotcegal you may want to edit that post... your typo could potentially be hit for censor bypassing.
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hotcegaI
11/20/18 8:47:28 PM
#66:


danky aw
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Tyranthraxus
11/20/18 8:48:06 PM
#67:


hotcegaI posted...
it's got legitimatey medical reasons

Cutting off your balls prevents testicular cancer.
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hotcegaI
11/20/18 8:48:36 PM
#68:


stop using your atls - i'm done responding to you and your trollery
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/20/18 8:48:52 PM
#69:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
MakoReizei posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
MakoReizei posted...
Doom_Art posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Can we start saying "fuck Islam" openly now? Or is this not enough for everyone?

I mean it's not like people say "fuck Jews" whenever there's a story about male circumcision

Well maybe some people do, but they're weird.

Male circumcision is not comparable to female genital mutilation


It absolutely is. You can shut the fuck up now, buddy.

No it's not. You shut the fuck up.

It would only be equivalent if circumcision was cutting off the tip of the penis.


It is genital mutilation and affects general and sexual well-being. Shut the fuck up buddy.


By the grace of Marx, you should read post #23, comrade.
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Tmaster148
11/20/18 8:49:47 PM
#70:


hotcegaI posted...
stop using your atls - i'm done responding to you and your trollery


"Everyone who disagrees with me is an alt"
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/20/18 8:51:06 PM
#71:


hotcegaI posted...
danky aw


Are you a vegy alt? >_>

Vegy is always doing that lol
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Prestoff
11/20/18 8:56:36 PM
#72:


rikasa posted...
Two truths

1.) Male circumcision is bad
2.) Female circumcision is worse

mods lock this topic.


Yep, except i dont think it should be locked.
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MakoReizei
11/20/18 8:58:28 PM
#73:


Prestoff posted...
rikasa posted...
Two truths

1.) Male circumcision is bad
2.) Female circumcision is worse

mods lock this topic.


Yep, except i dont think it should be locked.

One is a valid medical procedure
the other is mutilation
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FLUFFYGERM
11/20/18 8:59:08 PM
#74:


Imagine thinking genital mutilation is a valid medical procedure.
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Tmaster148
11/20/18 8:59:26 PM
#75:


MakoReizei posted...
Prestoff posted...
rikasa posted...
Two truths

1.) Male circumcision is bad
2.) Female circumcision is worse

mods lock this topic.


Yep, except i dont think it should be locked.

One is a valid medical procedure
the other is mutilation


At the end of the day. Capitalism offers the service, because people will pay for it. And who are we to judge what Capitalism deems worthy.
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Questionmarktarius
11/20/18 8:59:31 PM
#76:


Tyranthraxus posted...
hotcegaI posted...
it's got legitimatey medical reasons

Cutting off your balls prevents testicular cancer.

...and baldness, i think
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Prestoff
11/20/18 9:03:54 PM
#78:


MakoReizei posted...
Prestoff posted...
rikasa posted...
Two truths

1.) Male circumcision is bad
2.) Female circumcision is worse

mods lock this topic.


Yep, except i dont think it should be locked.

One is a valid medical procedure
the other is mutilation


Both are mutilation with male circumcision obly having benefits if you dont keep up with cleaning your dongers, but female circumcision is much worst than a male one for sure. Personally you can do whatever you want to your own dick, but leave babies out of it.
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jumi
11/20/18 9:04:22 PM
#79:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Male circumcision is mutilation. Saying it is just "snipping some skin" shows a deep ignorance on basic anatomy and also a sickening misandrist double standard.


By Gawd Fluffygerm and Jumi agree for once! What devilry is this?!
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kayoticdreamz
11/20/18 9:18:29 PM
#80:


I swear we've had so many foreskins chopped off we've forgotten what foreskin does anymore

It has 20,000 nerves

Babies are not put to sleep for it, they do pass out from the shock induced pain

changes in the brain have been observed as well as a negative impact on breast feeding

David Reimer

Forskin at birth is fused to the rest of the penis, as by design. It is not meant to be separated until the boy ages and. Only because of sex

Religion is not a reason to defend mutilation of infants. If that's anti semtism, then do be it. No one has a right to mutilate infants

Forskin keeps the penis clean

It literally changes the shape of the penis when removed during infancy

I could go on

There are 0 "benefits for. Routine infant circumcision aka genital mutilation and it is every bit comparable to female genital mutilation
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FLUFFYGERM
11/20/18 9:19:48 PM
#81:


kayoticdreamz posted...
I swear we've had so many foreskins chopped off we've forgotten what foreskin does anymore

It has 20,000 nerves

Babies are not put to sleep for it, they do pass out from the shock induced pain

changes in the brain have been observed as well as a negative impact on breast feeding

David Reimer

Forskin at birth is fused to the rest of the penis, as by design. It is not meant to be separated until the boy ages and. Only because of sex

Religion is not a reason to defend mutilation of infants

Forskin keeps the penis clean

It literally changes the shape of the penis when removed during infancy

I could go on

There are 0 "benefits for. Routine infant circumcision aka genital mutilation and it is every bit comparable to female genital mutilation


It's also important for chemical bonding between the couple during intercourse.
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kayoticdreamz
11/20/18 9:21:32 PM
#82:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
I swear we've had so many foreskins chopped off we've forgotten what foreskin does anymore

It has 20,000 nerves

Babies are not put to sleep for it, they do pass out from the shock induced pain

changes in the brain have been observed as well as a negative impact on breast feeding

David Reimer

Forskin at birth is fused to the rest of the penis, as by design. It is not meant to be separated until the boy ages and. Only because of sex

Religion is not a reason to defend mutilation of infants

Forskin keeps the penis clean

It literally changes the shape of the penis when removed during infancy

I could go on

There are 0 "benefits for. Routine infant circumcision aka genital mutilation and it is every bit comparable to female genital mutilation


It's also important for chemical bonding between the couple during intercourse.

Yes, I am well aware. I really could go on lol
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MakoReizei
11/20/18 9:22:20 PM
#83:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
i suffer ptsd everyday just thinking about the awful traumatic experience my parents put me through in order to make my penis more sanitary in the future

we should start a safespace for all the poor souls like us that relive the trauma every single day of our lives. i still feel the doctors scapel against my penis. its so upsetting and triggering to me!

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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/20/18 9:25:05 PM
#84:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
I swear we've had so many foreskins chopped off we've forgotten what foreskin does anymore

It has 20,000 nerves

Babies are not put to sleep for it, they do pass out from the shock induced pain

changes in the brain have been observed as well as a negative impact on breast feeding

David Reimer

Forskin at birth is fused to the rest of the penis, as by design. It is not meant to be separated until the boy ages and. Only because of sex

Religion is not a reason to defend mutilation of infants

Forskin keeps the penis clean

It literally changes the shape of the penis when removed during infancy

I could go on

There are 0 "benefits for. Routine infant circumcision aka genital mutilation and it is every bit comparable to female genital mutilation


It's also important for chemical bonding between the couple during intercourse.


This is the most communist thing I've ever seen tbh
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Tyranthraxus
11/20/18 9:25:24 PM
#85:


Prestoff posted...
MakoReizei posted...
Prestoff posted...
rikasa posted...
Two truths

1.) Male circumcision is bad
2.) Female circumcision is worse

mods lock this topic.


Yep, except i dont think it should be locked.

One is a valid medical procedure
the other is mutilation


Both are mutilation with male circumcision obly having benefits if you dont keep up with cleaning your dongers, but female circumcision is much worst than a male one for sure. Personally you can do whatever you want to your own dick, but leave babies out of it.


I don't really want to get into a pity war over which one is worse but I'd like to point out here that Male Genital Mutilation is treated as socially acceptable in many places where Female Genital Mutilation is not. That is an enormous and serious problem that is much bigger in scope than Female Genital Mutilation which is otherwise taboo by the entire world except for the cultures that practice it.
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Muffinz0rz
11/20/18 9:29:53 PM
#86:


kayoticdreamz posted...
I swear we've had so many foreskins chopped off we've forgotten what foreskin does anymore

It has 20,000 nerves

Babies are not put to sleep for it, they do pass out from the shock induced pain

changes in the brain have been observed as well as a negative impact on breast feeding

David Reimer

Forskin at birth is fused to the rest of the penis, as by design. It is not meant to be separated until the boy ages and. Only because of sex

Religion is not a reason to defend mutilation of infants. If that's anti semtism, then do be it. No one has a right to mutilate infants

Forskin keeps the penis clean

It literally changes the shape of the penis when removed during infancy

I could go on

There are 0 "benefits for. Routine infant circumcision aka genital mutilation and it is every bit comparable to female genital mutilation

You're missing the biggest con; most women think un-snipped is fucking gross
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Esrac
11/20/18 9:51:06 PM
#87:


@A_Good_Boy posted...
Which charges were dropped, and what was the reasoning for it?


Judging by the OP, the reasoning was that the judge ruled Congress doesn't have a right to make FGM illegal and doing so is unconstitutional.
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kayoticdreamz
11/20/18 9:56:50 PM
#88:


Muffinz0rz posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
I swear we've had so many foreskins chopped off we've forgotten what foreskin does anymore

It has 20,000 nerves

Babies are not put to sleep for it, they do pass out from the shock induced pain

changes in the brain have been observed as well as a negative impact on breast feeding

David Reimer

Forskin at birth is fused to the rest of the penis, as by design. It is not meant to be separated until the boy ages and. Only because of sex

Religion is not a reason to defend mutilation of infants. If that's anti semtism, then do be it. No one has a right to mutilate infants

Forskin keeps the penis clean

It literally changes the shape of the penis when removed during infancy

I could go on

There are 0 "benefits for. Routine infant circumcision aka genital mutilation and it is every bit comparable to female genital mutilation

You're missing the biggest con; most women think un-snipped is fucking gross

Also true

But given how much better sex is with foreskin.... The solution is simple, one good fuck by a non mutilated man. Or just banning male circumcision and eventually it corrects itself
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hockeybub89
11/20/18 9:58:37 PM
#89:


America loves mutilating the genitals of young children.
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A_Good_Boy
11/20/18 10:25:00 PM
#90:


Esrac posted...
@A_Good_Boy posted...
Which charges were dropped, and what was the reasoning for it?


Judging by the OP, the reasoning was that the judge ruled Congress doesn't have a right to make FGM illegal and doing so is unconstitutional.

Turns out the judge concluded that the law was unconstitutional because fgm has nothing to do with interstate commerce, and that assault is defined by the states.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/20/18 10:52:45 PM
#91:


WTF SArmstr0ng cares about state rights now???
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A_Good_Boy
11/21/18 3:37:08 AM
#92:


When did you stop?
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lesidesi
11/21/18 3:43:28 AM
#93:


regardless on one's views of male circumcision, any attempt to equate female and male circumcision requires such ludicrous mental gymnastics that it's almost not worth talking about it with such a person

female circumcision is very clearly exponentially worse than male circumcision
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JE19426
11/21/18 4:02:34 AM
#94:


It was a Federal Judge, not a Detroit Judge.

RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Female genital mutilation removes the clitoris.


No. Female genital mutilation can involve removing the clitoris, it also covers a wide range of other practices. Some less severe than removing the clitoris, others more severe.
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kayoticdreamz
11/21/18 4:25:42 AM
#95:


lesidesi posted...
regardless on one's views of male circumcision, any attempt to equate female and male circumcision requires such ludicrous mental gymnastics that it's almost not worth talking about it with such a person

female circumcision is very clearly exponentially worse than male circumcision


study both versions and you will see on average the male version is actually worse.

it's only the extreme end of the female version that is worse, but then again the extreme end of the male version is the penis gets completely cut off and sometimes death, or in the case of people like David Reimer, eventual suicide after having been changed into a girl. Whats truly sad here and goes unnoticed is despite Davids cut off penis thanks to circumcision, his parents still did it to their other son which tells you just how delusional people are when talking about male circumcision. Your son's penis gets cut off during circumcision, and will now be a girl, but you'll still do it to your other son.

and if we are just going to talk a pain vs pain aspect, foreskin = 20,000 nerves. Clitoris, if it even gets cut off, is only 9,000 nerves.

I swear people need to actually study this damn topic before posting talking points which have 0 basis in fact.

None of this makes female circumcision right, it absolutely should be condemned, but male circumcision should be seen as just as bad. I really don't care which one people say is worse, I just want people to agree that both are evil and both deserve to be banished to ancient history pile. I just can't stand the double standard hypocrisy where one sex can get their genitals mutilated and no one gives a shit, but the other one has it happen and the world flips out.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/21/18 9:53:00 AM
#96:


The fact that everyone rather argue about their dicks instead of addressing how to solve the problem actually laid out in the OP is kinda creepy.
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Oatcakes
11/21/18 10:09:12 AM
#97:


rikasa posted...
Two truths

1.) Male circumcision is bad
2.) Female circumcision is worse


This.

Also, FGM isn't a thing that only Muslims do.
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Questionmarktarius
11/21/18 10:12:03 AM
#98:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
The fact that everyone rather argue about their dicks instead of addressing how to solve the problem actually laid out in the OP is kinda creepy.

Stop cutting off dangly bits.
There. Problem solved.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/21/18 10:16:01 AM
#99:


Questionmarktarius posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The fact that everyone rather argue about their dicks instead of addressing how to solve the problem actually laid out in the OP is kinda creepy.

Stop cutting off dangly bits.
There. Problem solved.

Contact your local representatives and tell them that youd like to see them pass legislation outlawing circumcision.

Or yell on the internet about your dick.
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Tyranthraxus
11/21/18 10:16:20 AM
#100:


Oatcakes posted...
rikasa posted...
Two truths

1.) Male circumcision is bad
2.) Female circumcision is worse


This.

Also, FGM isn't a thing that only Muslims do.


it's only practiced in muslim countries really. there are some muslim countries that don't do it, but you're not going to find any predominantly european or oriental countries that have it as a widespread practice.
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Tyranthraxus
11/21/18 10:17:04 AM
#101:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
The fact that everyone rather argue about their dicks instead of addressing how to solve the problem actually laid out in the OP is kinda creepy.

Stop cutting off dangly bits.
There. Problem solved.

Contact your local representatives and tell them that youd like to see them pass legislation outlawing circumcision.

Or yell on the internet about your dick.

Yelling on the internet generates more results. I'm not even being sarcastic here.
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