Current Events > California Democrat threatens to drop nukes on citizens who don't turn in guns

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U.S. Rep. Eric Swalwell on Friday said the U.S. government would use its nuclear weapons in a hypothetical war against Second Amendment supporters refusing to give up their firearms.

The California Democrat, who is openly considering a run for the Democratic Partys presidential nomination in 2020, made the outlandish remark on social media after a gun-rights advocate pointed out that the lawmaker once called for gun owners to surrender their assault weapons.

So basically @RepSwalwell wants a war. Because that's what you would get. You're outta your f------ mind if you think I'll give up my rights and give the [government] all the power," Joe Biggs tweeted at Swalwell.

This prompted Swalwell to defend himself, saying it would be a short war because the government has nukes, implying the government would use its nuclear arsenal against its own citizens.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-dem-says-government-would-use-nuclear-weapons-against-gun-owners-resisting-firearms-control

And before you collapse because it's Fox News, note that they have the Tweet thread linked there for anyone to go see it.
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I mean, the government would win pretty swiftly. Probably wouldn't use nukes though.
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That is not a take I would have as a politician.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

I mean, the government would win pretty swiftly. Probably wouldn't use nukes though.

Let me tag my man @Dark_Spiret so he can explain why it's not actually the case that the "government would win pretty swiftly" if there was a civil war.

Still doesn't take away from the horror of an actual leading Democrat saying that kind of bullshit.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

I mean, the government would win pretty swiftly.

True, but...
Gheb posted...

That is not a take I would have as a politician.

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Best news.
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Kim Jung Un makes the same kind of outlandish threats to the UN all the time. But this is still quite troubling to see from the "smart" party.
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HiddenLurker posted...

Kim Jung Un makes the same kind of outlandish threats to the UN all the time. But this is still quite troubling to see from the "smart" party.

Yeah, if a Republican or Trump said something about dropping nukes on citizens the DNC would be having a field day.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Still doesn't take away from the horror of an actual leading Democrat saying that kind of bullshit.

it's no more bullshit than gun nuts threatening to wage war on the government cuz of MAH GUNS! MAH RIGHTS! while their ridiculous entitlement is why the gun culture in america is what it is and why kids have the means to shoot each other up every fucking week

Firearms have been accessible ever since America started out as a country. We didn't have mass shootings like these decades ago. The problem is not the accessibility or the gun culture.

And wanting to preserve your rights is understandable.

Edit: That being said, none of the mass shootings justify threatening to drop nukes on citizens who don't want to give up their rights.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

I mean, the government would win pretty swiftly.

Ah yes, the US government is known for making swift work of insurgencies.

'hypothetically I would"
Proudclad reads it as: THE LEFT HAS NUKES

hotcegaI posted...

'hypothetically I would"
Proudclad reads it as: THE LEFT HAS NUKES

I know you have a hard time reading, so let me point it out for you: "U.S. Rep. Eric Swalwell on Friday said the U.S. government would use its nuclear weapons in a hypothetical war against Second Amendment supporters refusing to give up their firearms."
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Right
so there was no threats
there was a hypothetical scenario and a hypothetical answer

Pretty weird how Proudclad makes this topic after all of his backpedaling in that NRA topic. Really just goes to show he either doesn't believe or just doesn't care about a single thing that he says.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

The problem is not the accessibility or the gun culture.

like it's FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE for there to be more than ONE factor that contributes to this shit

and it's NEVER the guns

Guns have been widely accessible for the majority of America's history. You don't see these types of shootings in the decades before Columbine, do you? And there are currently hundreds of millions of firearms in circulation that are not contributing to mass shootings.

So OBVIOUSLY it isn't the guns. This is basic.
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Fakesnews.com.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

would use its nuclear weapons in a hypothetical war against Second Amendment supporters refusing to give up their firearms

Errrr.... what? Nuclear weapons?

Is this guy completely drunk or is he being grossly misquoted? Because that makes no sense.
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that wouldn't even work. drop nukes on single homes of each gun supporter? you'd kill the neighbors too. also you would be irradiating your own land

frozenshock posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

would use its nuclear weapons in a hypothetical war against Second Amendment supporters refusing to give up their firearms

Errrr.... what? Nuclear weapons?

Is this guy completely drunk or is he being grossly misquoted? Because that makes no sense.

No he explicitly said it in a tweet.
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Proudclod: its unfair to paint the entire Republican Party as neo-Nazis just because there are a few within its ranks

Also Proudclod: Democrats are insane warmongers because of a dumb thing one guy said
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Spooking posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

who is openly considering a run for the Democratic Partys presidential nomination in 2020,

Ah, so he's joining the other losers to see who will lose to Trump: Mrs. 1/1024, a wife beater, "We should be more like Venezuela!", and Mrs. "ICE is like the KKK" Harris.

You have these couple criticisms for them all, but Trump has done and said much stupider shit than them all put together

I don't recall Trump insinuating he would nuke Democrats if they tried to impeach him or something like that....
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Proudclod: its unfair to paint the entire Republican Party as neo-Nazis just because there are a few within its ranks

Also Proudclod: Democrats are insane warmongers because of a dumb thing one guy said

Damn I thought you were smarter than this. Where do you see me saying that all Democrats are insane warmongers because of a dumb thing one leading Democrat in California said?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

hotcegaI posted...

'hypothetically I would"
Proudclad reads it as: THE LEFT HAS NUKES

I know you have a hard time reading, so let me point it out for you: "U.S. Rep. Eric Swalwell on Friday said the U.S. government would use its nuclear weapons in a hypothetical war against Second Amendment supporters refusing to give up their firearms."

>bolds a passage that contains the word hypothetical
>presents post in a manner suggestive that the scenario is not hypothetical
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Proudclad

Wait TC is Proudclad?
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Doom_Art posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Proudclad

Wait TC is Proudclad?

Lmao
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This is the entire tweet no edit for people wondering what the hell this is about:

"And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But theyre legit. Im sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities."
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Proudclad finds the weirdest things to be offended about.
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We desperately need to find Doom_Art another joke to make because my god that's gotta be like the thousandth time.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Proudclod: its unfair to paint the entire Republican Party as neo-Nazis just because there are a few within its ranks

Also Proudclod: Democrats are insane warmongers because of a dumb thing one guy said

Damn I thought you were smarter than this. Where do you see me saying that all Democrats are insane warmongers because of a dumb thing one leading Democrat in California said?

You can pretend like you arent trying to portray Democrats as being insane with this topic, but you wont fool very many people. When you prominently mention the political party in the topic title and then continue to do so in every one of your subsequent posts, your thinly-veiled intentions are pretty obvious.
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Proudclod: its unfair to paint the entire Republican Party as neo-Nazis just because there are a few within its ranks

Also Proudclod: Democrats are insane warmongers because of a dumb thing one guy said

Damn I thought you were smarter than this. Where do you see me saying that all Democrats are insane warmongers because of a dumb thing one leading Democrat in California said?

You can pretend like you arent trying to portray Democrats as being insane with this topic, but you wont fool very many people. When you prominently mention the political party in the topic title and then continue to do so in every one of your subsequent posts, your thinly-veiled intentions are pretty obvious.

Proudclad's an independent. There's no way he was lying about that is just trying play partisan tricks.
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

You can pretend like you arent trying to portray Democrats as being insane with this topic, but you wont fool very many people. When you prominently mention the political party in the topic title and then continue to do so in every one of your subsequent posts, your thinly-veiled intentions are pretty obvious.

Not like that Swalwell guy did himself any favor. Saying the government would win a hypothetical civil war because it has nukes is just mind-numbingly stupid. It's something a 12 year old would say.
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Spooking posted...

Ah, so he's joining the other losers to see who will lose to Trump: Mrs. 1/1024, a wife beater, "We should be more like Venezuela!", and Mrs. "ICE is like the KKK" Harris.

Fucking LOL'd at this.

Spork can't possibly be serious
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Itt people don't know what hyperbole is. Why would anyone think that was a serious comment?
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creativerealms posted...

Itt people don't know what hyperbole is.

Republicans get hyperbole in the same way that infants get object permanence.

In fact, I don't think republicans get that either...
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frozenshock posted...

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

You can pretend like you arent trying to portray Democrats as being insane with this topic, but you wont fool very many people. When you prominently mention the political party in the topic title and then continue to do so in every one of your subsequent posts, your thinly-veiled intentions are pretty obvious.

Not like that Swalwell guy did himself any favor. Saying the government would win a hypothetical civil war because it has nukes is just mind-numbingly stupid. It's something a 12 year old would say.

It's also not wrong.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

frozenshock posted...

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

You can pretend like you arent trying to portray Democrats as being insane with this topic, but you wont fool very many people. When you prominently mention the political party in the topic title and then continue to do so in every one of your subsequent posts, your thinly-veiled intentions are pretty obvious.

Not like that Swalwell guy did himself any favor. Saying the government would win a hypothetical civil war because it has nukes is just mind-numbingly stupid. It's something a 12 year old would say.

It's also not wrong.

I have huge doubts the government would nuke it's own citizens. Even if the current president is Trump.
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Sounds like an anarchist version of trump.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Still doesn't take away from the horror of an actual leading Democrat saying that kind of bullshit.

it's no more bullshit than gun nuts threatening to wage war on the government cuz of MAH GUNS! MAH RIGHTS! while their ridiculous entitlement is why the gun culture in america is what it is and why kids have the means to shoot each other up every fucking week

most people who bitch about 2nd amendment rights dont even care about the guns. they're just doing it out of principle because it's a "right"

Tmaster148 posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

frozenshock posted...

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

You can pretend like you arent trying to portray Democrats as being insane with this topic, but you wont fool very many people. When you prominently mention the political party in the topic title and then continue to do so in every one of your subsequent posts, your thinly-veiled intentions are pretty obvious.

Not like that Swalwell guy did himself any favor. Saying the government would win a hypothetical civil war because it has nukes is just mind-numbingly stupid. It's something a 12 year old would say.

It's also not wrong.

I have huge doubts the government would nuke it's own citizens. Even if the current president is Trump.

And I have huge doubts that an organization that's capable of constructing and stockpiling nukes is going to lose in a conflict against its own citizens.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

And I have huge doubts that an organization that's capable of constructing and stockpiling nukes is going to lose in a conflict against its own citizens.

But it's not because of the nukes. It has nothing to do with the nukes. Why even bring them up?
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Hairistotle posted...

i can't find the tweet thread

He probably deleted it
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

I mean, the government would win pretty swiftly.

Ah yes, the US government is known for making swift work of insurgencies.

lol...couldn't even take baghdad
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