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Bishop9800
11/14/18 4:36:51 PM
#102:


FaultyGourry posted...
If you pick Alien Ant Farm, you're wrong.


This. Although, I do still like their version.
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ViewtifulGrave
11/14/18 4:41:25 PM
#103:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
Obviously Alien Ant Farm's version is much better. People only prefer the original because they like Michael Jackson better, with disregard for the actual quality of the song.

Smh
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catboy0_0
11/14/18 4:42:19 PM
#104:


I feel like I entered bizarro world where everyone thinks the AAF cover is better than the original
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Orthopox12
11/14/18 4:45:53 PM
#105:


Lets compare music videos

AAF (holy early 2000s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDl9ZMfj6aE" data-time="


MJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_D3VFfhvs4" data-time="

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Garlands_Soul
11/14/18 4:47:55 PM
#106:


Don't like Michael Jackson, but the song is decent, so AAF.
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furb
11/14/18 5:14:57 PM
#107:


I love the dancing kid in alien ant farm

Obviously, Michael is the superior act here, hands down. But the alien ant farm cover is legit.
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Joelypoely
11/14/18 5:16:17 PM
#108:


au_gold posted...
Alien Ant Farm is the original, so them.

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Reis
11/14/18 5:16:48 PM
#109:


Yuzoboy's smooth criminal x ice cap Mashup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UGrbk2jKss" data-time="
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Orthopox12
11/14/18 9:37:10 PM
#110:


Night bump
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catboy0_0
11/14/18 9:50:27 PM
#111:


Reis posted...
Yuzoboy's smooth criminal x ice cap Mashup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UGrbk2jKss" data-time="

that's ice
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SauI_Goodman
11/14/18 9:52:42 PM
#112:


I like AAF's version. But to sum it up. They did an interview with a guy (kind of a douchey interviewer) but essentially he was like "how do you guys feel that none of your own songs made it big?" lol. harsh. There is only one answer here and it's MJ.
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Guide
11/14/18 9:53:43 PM
#113:


Alien Ant Farm, but without the ridiculous video pauses.

Incidentally, it's also the only good thing they ever made.
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jumi
11/14/18 9:56:18 PM
#114:


Michael. If you choose AAF, either your ears or your brain is broken.
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OctilIery
11/14/18 9:57:42 PM
#115:


Guide posted...
Alien Ant Farm, but without the ridiculous video pauses.

Incidentally, it's also the only good thing they ever made.

Not even close to true.

jumi posted...
Michael. If you choose AAF, either your ears or your brain is broken.

Neither is broken in mine.
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Forlorn_Ass
11/14/18 9:57:55 PM
#116:


Those who prefer the AAF version are the same people that like the Disturbed cover of Sound of Silence.
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ultimate reaver
11/14/18 9:59:08 PM
#117:


I refuse to believe anyone would choose alien ant farm as their hill to die on and not either be trolling or someone who still has frosted tips and wears guy fieri flame button ups in 2018
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OctilIery
11/14/18 10:09:03 PM
#118:


Forlorn_Ass posted...
Those who prefer the AAF version are the same people that like the Disturbed cover of Sound of Silence.

I hate that cover
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Tyranthraxus
11/14/18 10:10:27 PM
#119:


MJ's version is full of tension and build up. The AAF version is indistinguishable from a modern pop song.
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OctilIery
11/14/18 10:15:06 PM
#121:


Tyranthraxus posted...
MJ's version is full of tension and build up. The AAF version is indistinguishable from a modern pop song.

There is no tension, buildup, or excitement in the MJ version. The AAF version is fun, unique rock with a ton of energy.
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Tyranthraxus
11/14/18 10:18:13 PM
#122:


OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
MJ's version is full of tension and build up. The AAF version is indistinguishable from a modern pop song.

There is no tension, buildup, or excitement in the MJ version. The AAF version is fun, unique rock with a ton of energy.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""Rock""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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OctilIery
11/14/18 10:19:10 PM
#123:


Tyranthraxus posted...
OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
MJ's version is full of tension and build up. The AAF version is indistinguishable from a modern pop song.

There is no tension, buildup, or excitement in the MJ version. The AAF version is fun, unique rock with a ton of energy.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""Rock""""""""""""""""""""""""""

It's undeniably rock. AAF overall is alt rock.
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Smashingpmkns
11/14/18 10:25:16 PM
#125:


OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
MJ's version is full of tension and build up. The AAF version is indistinguishable from a modern pop song.

There is no tension, buildup, or excitement in the MJ version. The AAF version is fun, unique rock with a ton of energy.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""Rock""""""""""""""""""""""""""

It's undeniably rock. AAF overall is alt rock.


Its nu metal. Stop denying it.
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OctilIery
11/14/18 10:26:04 PM
#127:


Smashingpmkns posted...
OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
MJ's version is full of tension and build up. The AAF version is indistinguishable from a modern pop song.

There is no tension, buildup, or excitement in the MJ version. The AAF version is fun, unique rock with a ton of energy.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""Rock""""""""""""""""""""""""""

It's undeniably rock. AAF overall is alt rock.


Its nu metal. Stop denying it.

Except it isn't.
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Orthopox12
11/14/18 10:26:06 PM
#128:


That Disturbed cover was trash. The more I hear them these days the more I cringe at liking them in HS. I guess I could still listen to Ten Thousand Fists, The Game, and a handfull of other old songs but thats about it.
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Smashingpmkns
11/14/18 10:28:42 PM
#129:


OctilIery posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
MJ's version is full of tension and build up. The AAF version is indistinguishable from a modern pop song.

There is no tension, buildup, or excitement in the MJ version. The AAF version is fun, unique rock with a ton of energy.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""Rock""""""""""""""""""""""""""

It's undeniably rock. AAF overall is alt rock.


Its nu metal. Stop denying it.

Except it isn't.


Literally is. Every professional critic that actually gave a shit to talk about them described them as nu metal.
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OctilIery
11/14/18 10:29:57 PM
#130:


Orthopox12 posted...
That Disturbed cover was trash. The more I hear them these days the more I cringe at liking them in HS. I guess I could still listen to Ten Thousand Fists, The Game, and a handfull of other old songs but thats about it.

They shifted in tone after ten thousand fists, lost everything that made them unique and went for a more homogenous metal sound :/
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OctilIery
11/14/18 10:30:42 PM
#131:


Smashingpmkns posted...
OctilIery posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
OctilIery posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
MJ's version is full of tension and build up. The AAF version is indistinguishable from a modern pop song.

There is no tension, buildup, or excitement in the MJ version. The AAF version is fun, unique rock with a ton of energy.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""Rock""""""""""""""""""""""""""

It's undeniably rock. AAF overall is alt rock.


Its nu metal. Stop denying it.

Except it isn't.


Literally is. Every professional critic that actually gave a shit to talk about them described them as nu metal.

Still literally isn't. It has no real metal influences, it's just alt rock.
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Tyranthraxus
11/14/18 10:35:11 PM
#132:


It's pop with guitars. There's no hints of rock or R&B heritage in it.
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Smashingpmkns
11/14/18 10:36:34 PM
#133:


OctilIery posted...
Still literally isn't. It has no real metal influences, it's just alt rock.


Nu metal as a genre can be a mix of a bunch of shit. the guitar work and drums is definitely nu metal. Nu metal is a subgenre of metal and alt rock.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nu_metal_bands
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OctilIery
11/14/18 10:45:11 PM
#135:


Tyranthraxus posted...
It's pop with guitars. There's no hints of rock or R&B heritage in it.

Except there's tons of rock influence.
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Smashingpmkns
11/14/18 10:45:59 PM
#136:


Conflict posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
OctilIery posted...
Still literally isn't. It has no real metal influences, it's just alt rock.


Nu metal as a genre can be a mix of a bunch of shit. the guitar work and drums is definitely nu metal. Nu metal is a subgenre of metal and alt rock.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nu_metal_bands


>Incubus
>Bring Me the Horizon

that's a mega oof. You generally don't even want to be linking Wikipedia in genre debates anyway, they consider Aerosmith heavy metal


Incubus definitely has nu metal songs and so does BMTH wtf.

https://www.spin.com/2016/04/40-best-nu-metal-covers-pop-songs/2/

https://www.nme.com/photos/28-nu-metal-era-bands-you-probably-forgot-all-about-1425509
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OctilIery
11/14/18 10:46:03 PM
#137:


Smashingpmkns posted...
OctilIery posted...
Still literally isn't. It has no real metal influences, it's just alt rock.


Nu metal as a genre can be a mix of a bunch of shit. the guitar work and drums is definitely nu metal. Nu metal is a subgenre of metal and alt rock.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nu_metal_bands

Nu metal is rock with influences from rap and metal. This is just rock.
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Smashingpmkns
11/14/18 10:49:13 PM
#139:


OctilIery posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
OctilIery posted...
Still literally isn't. It has no real metal influences, it's just alt rock.


Nu metal as a genre can be a mix of a bunch of shit. the guitar work and drums is definitely nu metal. Nu metal is a subgenre of metal and alt rock.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nu_metal_bands

Nu metal is rock with influences from rap and metal. This is just rock.


Lol just rock. This is not "just rock". Its nu metal.
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OctilIery
11/14/18 10:50:00 PM
#140:


Smashingpmkns posted...
OctilIery posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
OctilIery posted...
Still literally isn't. It has no real metal influences, it's just alt rock.


Nu metal as a genre can be a mix of a bunch of shit. the guitar work and drums is definitely nu metal. Nu metal is a subgenre of metal and alt rock.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nu_metal_bands

Nu metal is rock with influences from rap and metal. This is just rock.


Lol just rock. This is not "just rock". Its nu metal.

But it is.
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Smashingpmkns
11/14/18 10:50:25 PM
#141:


Conflict posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...

https://www.spin.com/2016/04/40-best-nu-metal-covers-pop-songs/2/


Now Rage Against the Machine and an acoustic Evanescence song are nu-metal? What on earth?


Now? They always have been lol just because RATM is good doesnt mean they're not nu metal. and Evanescence is very blatantly nu metal.
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Smashingpmkns
11/14/18 10:54:20 PM
#143:


Conflict posted...
No RATM is not nu-metal and neither is Incubus. Both have always made drastically different music than the signature nu-metal bands, and that includes Fungus Amongus and S.C.I.E.N.C.E. That's what alternative is there for


Dude. You're literally wrong here. Both would even do nation wide tours with full nu metal line ups.
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dib153
11/14/18 10:55:07 PM
#144:


Forlorn_Ass posted...
Those who prefer the AAF version are the same people that like the Disturbed cover of Sound of Silence.


I voted for ant farm, and I can't stand disturbeds sound of silence
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Orthopox12
11/14/18 11:06:57 PM
#145:


Idk I always thought Nu Metal was a sort of made up genre to encompass a bunch of different hard rock/ heavy metal acts that came to popularity in the same time frame.
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UnholyMudcrab
11/14/18 11:08:17 PM
#146:


How did this topic turn into a pissing match over what constitutes nu-metal?
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Guide
11/14/18 11:11:36 PM
#147:


Nu metal still has some trace of, y'know, metal.
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ultimate reaver
11/14/18 11:50:29 PM
#148:


Orthopox12 posted...
Idk I always thought Nu Metal was a sort of made up genre to encompass a bunch of different hard rock/ heavy metal acts that came to popularity in the same time frame.


It basically is. It's a catch-all term for the 90s-2000s trend of mixing ostensibly metal-based musical elements with other genres like hip hop and industrial and other stuff. In practice, this generally gives you bands with a lot of really distorted groove-heavy chugging riffs, minimal or very simplistic guitar solos, and goofy vocals.

I wouldn't consider RATM falling under this. They're more like a predecessor to it, kind of like Faith No More's Angel Dust
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Guide
11/15/18 2:45:50 AM
#149:


Basically, if the bass was heavy and at least two white guys had dreads, it was nu.
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Tyranthraxus
11/15/18 2:45:36 PM
#150:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Conflict posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...

https://www.spin.com/2016/04/40-best-nu-metal-covers-pop-songs/2/


Now Rage Against the Machine and an acoustic Evanescence song are nu-metal? What on earth?


Now? They always have been lol just because RATM is good doesnt mean they're not nu metal. and Evanescence is very blatantly nu metal.

Evanescence is Symphonic Rock / Gothic Rock.
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Orthopox12
11/15/18 3:47:20 PM
#151:


This is by far the most attention any poll of mine has gotten. Didnt know CE had such strong opinions on Smooth Criminal and the definition of N Metal.
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