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Tmaster148 11/13/18 5:15:01 PM #1:	https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/retired-firefighter-who-fired-shotgun-black-teen-asking-directions-gets-n935611 A white retired firefighter in Michigan found guilty of firing a shotgun from his porch at a black teenager who knocked on his front door because he was lost was sentenced Tuesday to four to 10 years in prison. Jeffrey Zeigler, dressed in a grey jumpsuit with his hands shackled in front of him, appeared in an Oakland County courtroom where a judge sentenced him to two to 10 years for one count of assault with intent to do great bodily harm and two years for one count of felony firearm. He was convicted on Oct. 12. The sentences will be consecutive, meaning Zeigler will serve at least two years for the assault count and another two years for the firearm count, the judge said. Zeigler, 53, was seen on home surveillance video around 8:20 a.m. ET on April 12 shooting at Brennan Walker as the teen fled down the street. Walker told police that he had missed his school bus that morning and got lost as he was walking through Rochester Hills. Walker, 14, said he went to Zeigler's home to ask for directions to Rochester High School, where he is a freshman. "I knocked on the door, stepped back, knocked, stepped back, and then a lady came downstairs yelling at me," he told NBC-affiliate WDIV in April. Ziegler, a retired Detroit firefighter, grabbed his shotgun and chased after Walker, firing one round as the teen fled. "I was running away ... I was trying to run away faster and I heard a gunshot," Walker said. The teen was uninjured in the attack, but his mother Lisa Wright said hes in therapy indefinitely. "This will affect my son forever," she said. During the sentencing Tuesday, the teen's mom said she didn't think Zeigler was sorry for shooting at her son, telling the judge that she thinks he's only remorseful because of the media attention the case has attracted. Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time. During his arraignment earlier this year, Ziegler insisted he was innocent and said there was "a lot more to this story than what is being told." He claimed he believed Walker was trying to rob him and the shotgun accidentally fired when he tripped. Authorities, however, said the home surveillance video showed Zeigler clearly aimed the gun at the teen. 10 years seems a bit light --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:912349382] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/retired-firefighter-who-fired-shotgun-black-teen-asking-directions-gets-n935611 <quote>A white retired firefighter in Michigan found guilty of firing a shotgun from his porch at a black teenager who knocked on his front door because he was lost was sentenced Tuesday to four to 10 years in prison. Jeffrey Zeigler, dressed in a grey jumpsuit with his hands shackled in front of him, appeared in an Oakland County courtroom where a judge sentenced him to two to 10 years for one count of assault with intent to do great bodily harm and two years for one count of felony firearm. He was convicted on Oct. 12. The sentences will be consecutive, meaning Zeigler will serve at least two years for the assault count and another two years for the firearm count, the judge said. Zeigler, 53, was seen on home surveillance video around 8:20 a.m. ET on April 12 shooting at Brennan Walker as the teen fled down the street. Walker told police that he had missed his school bus that morning and got lost as he was walking through Rochester Hills. Walker, 14, said he went to Zeigler's home to ask for directions to Rochester High School, where he is a freshman. "I knocked on the door, stepped back, knocked, stepped back, and then a lady came downstairs yelling at me," he told NBC-affiliate WDIV in April. Ziegler, a retired Detroit firefighter, grabbed his shotgun and chased after Walker, firing one round as the teen fled. "I was running away ... I was trying to run away faster and I heard a gunshot," Walker said. The teen was uninjured in the attack, but his mother Lisa Wright said hes in therapy indefinitely. "This will affect my son forever," she said. During the sentencing Tuesday, the teen's mom said she didn't think Zeigler was sorry for shooting at her son, telling the judge that she thinks he's only remorseful because of the media attention the case has attracted. Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time. During his arraignment earlier this year, Ziegler insisted he was innocent and said there was "a lot more to this story than what is being told." He claimed he believed Walker was trying to rob him and the shotgun accidentally fired when he tripped. Authorities, however, said the home surveillance video showed Zeigler clearly aimed the gun at the teen.</quote> 10 years seems a bit light</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 11/13/18 5:15:50 PM #2:	I think that's a fair sentence for what he was convicted of. Fortunately the kid survived and wasn't hit. I'm still wondering why he was allowed to own guns at all at that point since he had a prior gun conviction in 2004. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:912349409] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>I think that's a fair sentence for what he was convicted of. Fortunately the kid survived and wasn't hit. I'm still wondering why he was allowed to own guns at all at that point since he had a prior gun conviction in 2004.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PIITB415 11/13/18 5:16:34 PM #3:	What an idiot. How do people reach that age and still make poor decisions. --- https://imgur.com/VawbBVM https://imgur.com/6Si4h <cite>PIITB415 posted [p:912349444] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>What an idiot. How do people reach that age and still make poor decisions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QwelzaarKane 11/13/18 5:17:19 PM #4:	Tmaster148 posted... Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time. He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change. --- Ain't no love shown but to those who down til we die <cite>QwelzaarKane posted [p:912349484] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time.</quote> He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 11/13/18 5:19:31 PM #5:	Good. Remember all the CEman that tried to defend this fuck? Lol --- https://imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://imgur.com/LkrRVe2 https://imgur.com/Dp03g3y Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick! <cite>Kitt posted [p:912349602] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Good. Remember all the CEman that tried to defend this fuck? Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 11/13/18 5:20:59 PM #6:	Get ready for someone to say that his wasn't fair, and he had every right to do whay he did. Grabs popcorn --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:912349676] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Get ready for someone to say that his wasn't fair, and he had every right to do whay he did. Grabs popcorn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 11/13/18 5:24:40 PM #7:	why don't people just own up to what they did when there is clear evidence "I tripped and the gun fired" uh, motherfucker they have clear video showing you aimed at a minor and fired a gun --- It's the internet, quit your crying <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:912349858] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>why don't people just own up to what they did when there is clear evidence "I tripped and the gun fired" uh, motherfucker they have clear video showing you aimed at a minor and fired a gun</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QwelzaarKane 11/13/18 5:28:13 PM #8:	Akagami_Shanks posted... "I tripped and the gun fired" uh, motherfucker they have clear video showing you aimed at a minor and fired a gun You can even see him turn the safety off before firing in the video. --- Ain't no love shown but to those who down til we die <cite>QwelzaarKane posted [p:912350039] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Akagami_Shanks posted...</cite> <quote>"I tripped and the gun fired" uh, motherfucker they have clear video showing you aimed at a minor and fired a gun</quote> You can even see him turn the safety off before firing in the video.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 11/13/18 5:33:16 PM #9:	Bishop9800 posted... Get ready for someone to say that his wasn't fair, and he had every right to do whay he did. Grabs popcorn I'm expecting someone to be all "so he might end up not having to serve 10 whole years so tc is posting misleading clickbait" --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:912350291] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote>Get ready for someone to say that his wasn't fair, and he had every right to do whay he did. Grabs popcorn</quote> I'm expecting someone to be all "so he might end up not having to serve 10 whole years so tc is posting misleading clickbait"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 11/13/18 5:34:56 PM #10:	He'll be out in 2 --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:912350362] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>He'll be out in 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Killmonger 11/13/18 5:36:30 PM #11:	Someone on here will find a way to spin this. "He was reaching for a gun!" <cite>Killmonger posted [p:912350435] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Someone on here will find a way to spin this. "He was reaching for a gun!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 11/13/18 5:37:25 PM #12:	glitteringfairy posted... He'll be out in 2 Sadly, this is true --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:912350483] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>He'll be out in 2</quote> Sadly, this is true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 11/13/18 5:40:34 PM #13:	I remember the Admiral was strongly on the man's side, claiming the kid was suspicious for not remembering the route and he lived in a dangerous neighbourhood. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:912350636] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>I remember the Admiral was strongly on the man's side, claiming the kid was suspicious for not remembering the route and he lived in a dangerous neighbourhood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 11/13/18 5:43:01 PM #14:	They should have also charged his shitty wife who yelled for him to come because someone was breaking in --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:912350781] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>They should have also charged his shitty wife who yelled for him to come because someone was breaking in</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 11/13/18 5:45:17 PM #15:	LightningAce11 posted... I remember the Admiral was strongly on the man's side, claiming the kid was suspicious for not remembering the route and he lived in a dangerous neighbourhood. I remember that. His take was the kid should have known the route cause he takes it every day. He also said the kid could have been casing the neighborhood. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:912350904] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote>I remember the Admiral was strongly on the man's side, claiming the kid was suspicious for not remembering the route and he lived in a dangerous neighbourhood.</quote> I remember that. His take was the kid should have known the route cause he takes it every day. He also said the kid could have been casing the neighborhood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 11/13/18 5:49:26 PM #16:	Kitt posted... Good. Remember all the CEman that tried to defend this fuck? Lol --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:912351105] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Remember all the CEman that tried to defend this fuck? Lol</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 11/13/18 5:53:43 PM #17:	it's a miscarriage of justice if this "criminal" is out in no more than 6 years. he won't learn anything. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:912351352] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>it's a miscarriage of justice if this "criminal" is out in no more than 6 years. he won't learn anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 11/13/18 5:57:11 PM #18:	He claimed he believed Walker was trying to rob him and the shotgun accidentally fired when he tripped. Good thing there is a video showing otherwise, get fucked and serve your time. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:912351541] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>He claimed he believed Walker was trying to rob him and the shotgun accidentally fired when he tripped. Good thing there is a video showing otherwise, get fucked and serve your time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 11/13/18 5:58:01 PM #19:	glitteringfairy posted... He'll be out in 2 even if he is, that is clsoeto a thousand years in jail, and the kid suffered on injuries, I would not be dissapointed at that. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:912351570] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>He'll be out in 2</quote> even if he is, that is clsoeto a thousand years in jail, and the kid suffered on injuries, I would not be dissapointed at that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 11/13/18 5:58:10 PM #20:	Good. Shitty old people deserve jail time. --- Currently playing: Psychonauts, BioShock In limbo: Strider, Jet Force Gemini <cite>davyheinz posted [p:912351584] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Good. Shitty old people deserve jail time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 11/13/18 6:01:25 PM #21:	Tmaster148 posted... Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time. Nah, you're sorry about video exposed your lie. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:912351756] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote> Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time.</quote> Nah, you're sorry about video exposed your lie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sondast 11/13/18 6:01:30 PM #22:	CableZL posted... I think that's a fair sentence for what he was convicted of. Fortunately the kid survived and wasn't hit. I'm still wondering why he was allowed to own guns at all at that point since he had a prior gun conviction in 2004. Was it a misdemeanor? Because those usually don't take away your gun rights permanently. --- Take a lesson from parakeets. If you're ever feeling lonely, just eat in front of a mirror. <cite>sondast posted [p:912351760] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>I think that's a fair sentence for what he was convicted of. Fortunately the kid survived and wasn't hit. I'm still wondering why he was allowed to own guns at all at that point since he had a prior gun conviction in 2004.</quote> Was it a misdemeanor? Because those usually don't take away your gun rights permanently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 11/13/18 6:05:22 PM #23:	Fuck this guy. The firefighter asshole piece of shit. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:912351953] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Fuck this guy. The firefighter asshole piece of shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 11/13/18 6:08:25 PM #24:	it's a felony. means when he gets out of jail. won't be able to get a gun again. another kid won't have to face that same fate. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:912352102] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>it's a felony. means when he gets out of jail. won't be able to get a gun again. another kid won't have to face that same fate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 11/13/18 6:14:26 PM #25:	Good. Fuck him. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:912352427] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Good. Fuck him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 11/13/18 6:16:49 PM #26:	Theres saying the n word and then theres chasing lost children and shooting them. Lil racist.... --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:912352540] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Theres saying the n word and then theres chasing lost children and shooting them. Lil racist....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/13/18 6:18:36 PM #27:	CableZL posted... I think that's a fair sentence for what he was convicted of. Fortunately the kid survived and wasn't hit. I'm still wondering why he was allowed to own guns at all at that point since he had a prior gun conviction in 2004. He's white, gun control laws are rarely enforced on white people --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:912352636] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>I think that's a fair sentence for what he was convicted of. Fortunately the kid survived and wasn't hit. I'm still wondering why he was allowed to own guns at all at that point since he had a prior gun conviction in 2004.</quote> He's white, gun control laws are rarely enforced on white people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 11/13/18 6:20:30 PM #28:	Good, that's where people who try to shoot fleeing children in the back belong --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:912352730] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Good, that's where people who try to shoot fleeing children in the back belong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 11/13/18 6:21:11 PM #29:	He's going to be really tired of being the victim in prison. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:912352764] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>He's going to be really tired of being the victim in prison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 11/13/18 6:22:00 PM #30:	Dang, it's a shame Addy's favorite firefighter is going away. --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:912352811] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Dang, it's a shame Addy's favorite firefighter is going away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 11/13/18 6:22:11 PM #31:	Webmaster4531 posted... He's going to be really tired of being the victim in prison. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:912352822] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>He's going to be really tired of being the victim in prison.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 11/13/18 6:22:41 PM #32:	QwelzaarKane posted... Tmaster148 posted... Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time. He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change. shut the fuck up --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:912352843] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>QwelzaarKane posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time.</quote> He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change.</quote> shut the fuck up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 11/13/18 6:27:04 PM #33:	3rd_Best_Master posted... Dang, it's a shame Addy's favorite firefighter is going away. "He was protecting his family from a thug that was casing the neighborhood."......... "Things Addy would say if he was here" --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:912353059] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote>Dang, it's a shame Addy's favorite firefighter is going away.</quote> "He was protecting his family from a thug that was casing the neighborhood."......... "Things Addy would say if he was here"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 11/13/18 6:27:52 PM #34:	Roxborough4Ever posted... QwelzaarKane posted... Tmaster148 posted... Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time. He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change. shut the fuck up Why? He's telling the truth --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:912353095] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Roxborough4Ever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QwelzaarKane posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time.</quote> He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change.</quote> shut the fuck up</quote> Why? He's telling the truth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QwelzaarKane 11/13/18 6:28:35 PM #35:	Roxborough4Ever posted... QwelzaarKane posted... Tmaster148 posted... Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time. He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change. shut the fuck up Why? E: although I was wrong. There are three things I could see him wanting to change. --- Ain't no love shown but to those who down til we die <cite>QwelzaarKane posted [p:912353130] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Roxborough4Ever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QwelzaarKane posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time.</quote> He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change.</quote> shut the fuck up</quote> Why? E: although I was wrong. There are three things I could see him wanting to change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 11/13/18 6:29:01 PM #36:	Dang, those Roxy meltys are getting out of hand now. --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:912353153] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>Dang, those Roxy meltys are getting out of hand now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 11/13/18 6:29:35 PM #37:	Killmonger posted... Someone on here will find a way to spin this. "He was reaching for a gun!" "He feared for his life and the safety of everyone in the neighborhood" --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:912353172] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Killmonger posted...</cite> <quote>Someone on here will find a way to spin this. "He was reaching for a gun!"</quote> "He feared for his life and the safety of everyone in the neighborhood"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 11/13/18 6:29:49 PM #38:	3rd_Best_Master posted... Dang, those Roxy meltys are getting out of hand now. Can we consider it multiple meltdowns? Seems like he's never stopped. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:912353185] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote>Dang, those Roxy meltys are getting out of hand now.</quote> Can we consider it multiple meltdowns? Seems like he's never stopped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 11/13/18 6:34:07 PM #39:	gunplagirl posted... CableZL posted... I think that's a fair sentence for what he was convicted of. Fortunately the kid survived and wasn't hit. I'm still wondering why he was allowed to own guns at all at that point since he had a prior gun conviction in 2004. He's white, gun control laws are rarely enforced on white people But he was a firefighter. Cops hate firefighters. Cops literally flipped a coin to decide who was at fault here. Disgusting. >_> --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:912353375] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>I think that's a fair sentence for what he was convicted of. Fortunately the kid survived and wasn't hit. I'm still wondering why he was allowed to own guns at all at that point since he had a prior gun conviction in 2004.</quote> He's white, gun control laws are rarely enforced on white people</quote> But he was a firefighter. Cops hate firefighters. Cops literally flipped a coin to decide who was at fault here. Disgusting. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 11/13/18 6:35:28 PM #40:	the woman should get convicted for accessory to attempted manslaughter --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:912353438] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>the woman should get convicted for accessory to attempted manslaughter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EdgeMaster 11/13/18 6:41:10 PM #41:	I like how the article states a white retired firefighter. Because his race really makes or breaks the story and they surely arent trying to push a racist narrative --- If you don't have anything nice to say, say it on the internet. ****poster Extraordinaire <cite>EdgeMaster posted [p:912353702] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>I like how the article states a white retired firefighter. Because his race really makes or breaks the story and they surely arent trying to push a racist narrative </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 11/13/18 6:42:02 PM #42:	EdgeMaster posted... I like how the article states a white retired firefighter. Because his race really makes or breaks the story and they surely arent trying to push a racist narrative If he's shooting his gun at children because of their race then what's the big deal with mentioning his own? --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:912353742] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote>I like how the article states a white retired firefighter. Because his race really makes or breaks the story and they surely arent trying to push a racist narrative </quote> If he's shooting his gun at children because of their race then what's the big deal with mentioning his own?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/13/18 6:50:38 PM #43:	3rd_Best_Master posted... EdgeMaster posted... I like how the article states a white retired firefighter. Because his race really makes or breaks the story and they surely arent trying to push a racist narrative If he's shooting his gun at children because of their race then what's the big deal with mentioning his own? This, it's a vital detail to the reasoning behind his actions --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:912354184] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote>I like how the article states a white retired firefighter. Because his race really makes or breaks the story and they surely arent trying to push a racist narrative </quote> If he's shooting his gun at children because of their race then what's the big deal with mentioning his own?</quote> This, it's a vital detail to the reasoning behind his actions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 11/13/18 6:51:26 PM #44:	Bishop9800 posted... Roxborough4Ever posted... QwelzaarKane posted... Tmaster148 posted... Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time. He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change. shut the fuck up Why? He's telling the truth no..its a sweeping generalization....an assumption....please, dont do that. --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:912354220] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Roxborough4Ever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>QwelzaarKane posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Zeigler later apologized to Walker's mother, saying: "I have full remorse and regret and I wish I could change something, but we cant go back in time.</quote> He shot at a kid who was running away. I can only think of two things he could be wanting to change.</quote> shut the fuck up</quote> Why? He's telling the truth</quote> no..its a sweeping generalization....an assumption....please, dont do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/13/18 6:54:44 PM #45:	kingdrake2 posted... it's a felony. means when he gets out of jail. won't be able to get a gun again. another kid won't have to face that same fate. Like that would stop someone like him. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:912354369] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>kingdrake2 posted...</cite> <quote>it's a felony. means when he gets out of jail. won't be able to get a gun again. another kid won't have to face that same fate.</quote> Like that would stop someone like him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/13/18 6:55:19 PM #46:	EdgeMaster posted... I like how the article states a white retired firefighter. Because his race really makes or breaks the story and they surely arent trying to push a racist narrative Race actually is a factor here. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:912354393] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote>I like how the article states a white retired firefighter. Because his race really makes or breaks the story and they surely arent trying to push a racist narrative </quote> Race actually is a factor here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRealDill1999 11/13/18 6:55:21 PM #47:	I was going to comment about 10 years being excessive, but he had a prior issue with firearms based on CableZL's post. As far as I'm concerned, he deserves everything that comes to him. <cite>TheRealDill1999 posted [p:912354395] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>I was going to comment about 10 years being excessive, but he had a prior issue with firearms based on CableZL's post. As far as I'm concerned, he deserves everything that comes to him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 11/13/18 7:50:19 PM #48:	Solar_Crimson posted... kingdrake2 posted... it's a felony. means when he gets out of jail. won't be able to get a gun again. another kid won't have to face that same fate. Like that would stop someone like him. we'll worry about it later if it happens again, since it's something that hasn't happened after he got out of jail. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:912357333] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kingdrake2 posted...</cite> <quote>it's a felony. means when he gets out of jail. won't be able to get a gun again. another kid won't have to face that same fate.</quote> Like that would stop someone like him.</quote> we'll worry about it later if it happens again, since it's something that hasn't happened after he got out of jail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 11/13/18 7:54:19 PM #49:	He's only sorry cause he got caught. btw whose security cam was it? i'm guessing a neighbor? --- Currently playing: RDR2 (ps4) Castlevania 4 (snes), Spiderman (ps4), Resident Evil (xbone) <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:912357547] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote>He's only sorry cause he got caught. btw whose security cam was it? i'm guessing a neighbor?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QwelzaarKane 11/13/18 7:55:47 PM #50:	SauI_Goodman posted... He's only sorry cause he got caught. btw whose security cam was it? i'm guessing a neighbor? It was the shooter's security camera. --- Ain't no love shown but to those who down til we die <cite>QwelzaarKane posted [p:912357637] in Retired fi... [t:77199285]...</cite> <quote><cite>SauI_Goodman posted...</cite> <quote>He's only sorry cause he got caught. btw whose security cam was it? i'm guessing a neighbor?</quote> It was the shooter's security camera.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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