Current Events > CNN files lawsuit against President Trump and top aides for banning Acosta

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Tmaster148
11/13/18 1:16:22 PM
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Grischnak posted...
So they are suing him on the basis that he violated the First Amendment. So what exactly is that implying? That reporters should be able to refuse to let other reporters ask questions for as long as they want and their press pass can't be revoked for it? So if Acosta keep that going for like 45 minutes that would have been fine? What exactly can get a press pass revoked then?


the lawsuit is also suing over violations of 5th amendment rights.
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NibeIungsnarf
11/13/18 1:20:01 PM
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I hope they win and the court decides Trump's punishment is forced amputation of legs and arms and life in prison.
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P4wn4g3
11/13/18 1:20:28 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
I hope they win and the court decides Trump's punishment is forced amputation of legs and arms and life in prison.

I don't understand this fetish
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
11/13/18 1:21:03 PM
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Thatuser posted...
So its CNN, not Acosta himself. If CNN can still send another reporter in his place I don't see how Trump banning an individual infringes on freedom of press.

Basically. This is why I don't see them winning
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NibeIungsnarf
11/13/18 1:21:38 PM
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My fetish is causing Trump as much suffering as possible but the death penalty is still gross.
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Anteaterking
11/13/18 1:27:29 PM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Basically. This is why I don't see them winning


For one, allowing the president to pull press passes for non-security reasons gives him the power to soft-ban particular news organizations.
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Bio1590
11/13/18 1:30:49 PM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Basically. This is why I don't see them winning

I don't think the courts take too kindly to easily provable libel/slander.
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Bio1590
11/13/18 4:02:11 PM
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Tmaster148
11/13/18 4:05:12 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/13/white-house-is-changing-its-tune-why-it-yanked-jim-acostas-press-pass/?utm_term=.5177712d7407

The White House is changing the narrative they're driving, not a good look for them.


They must be shaking.
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Bio1590
11/13/18 4:08:15 PM
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/jim-acosta-cnn-white-house-first-amendment.html

Trump also admitted on Friday that Acostas press pass was pulled because he does not treat the presidency with respect and threatened to withdraw passes from other journalists he considers belligerent questioners. He went on to hurl insults at another reporter, April Ryan, a respected veteran White House reporter who is black and whom he had refused to allow even to pose a question during Wednesdays press conference. On Friday, Trump also verbally abused another black journalist, Abby Phillip (also of CNN), calling her entirely reasonable question about the new acting attorney general and the Mueller investigation stupid.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit concluded nearly 41 years ago that the Secret Service cannot deny a journalist White House press credentials absent a compelling purposeand certainly cannot do so because the president is not a fan of a journalists reporting. As Scott Nover reported, the appellate decision concerned Robert Sherrill, a reporter for the Nation magazine who was notorious for challenging both Republican and Democratic politicians, including and especially regarding the Vietnam War. When Sherrill applied for a White House press pass in 1966 (during the Johnson presidency) the Secret Service denied his request, and also denied his renewed application in 1972 during the Nixon administration. When pressed, the government vaguely asserted that he posed a security risk (presumably relying upon some physical altercations and charges in Merrills past). The American Civil Liberties Union ultimately brought suit on Sherrills behalf, and he prevailed before the appellate court in 1977.

The D.C. Circuit reasoned that the White Houses press facilities have long been made publicly available to journalists as a source of information for newsmen, and stated that such access is essential to press coverage of the White House and the president. Accordingly, the appellate court reasoned that the First Amendments protection of freedom of the press bars the denial of a White House press pass to an individual journalist arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons. Other courts have reached the same conclusion regarding similar governmental attempts to selectively exclude the press, reasoning that the [e]xclusion of an individual reporter carries with it the danger that granting favorable treatment to certain members of the media allows the government to influence the type of substantive media coverage that public events will receive, which effectively harms the public. Furthermore, viewpoint-based exclusions of reporters, as Acosta experienced, have repeatedly been rejected as almost categorically unconstitutional because they strike at the heart of the First Amendment.

The Sherrill decision concluded that constitutional due process standards require the Secret Service to explain the standards for press pass denials, give a journalist facing a denial the right to respond, and, if the government stands on its denial decision, mandate that it state the final reasons in writing. The government failed to follow those mandatory procedures before pulling Acostas credentials. Even if this procedural misconduct is remedied, it is difficult to imagine the Secret Service successfully defending Trumps pulling of Acostas credentials given both the presidents admission of his improper purpose and the White Houses reliance on manipulated evidence in support of its ex post facto rationalization.

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creativerealms
11/13/18 4:09:27 PM
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That's not wise. Trump can use this in his war on freedom of the press.
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Nomadic View
11/13/18 5:02:37 PM
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FOX had no argument when Obama kicked out a reporter that constantly interrupted the president. CNN likewise has no argument for ejecting a reporter that likewise kept interrupting the president. CNN is just trying to parade this around and cry victim so that people will pay attention to them. Right now, literally more people pay attention to Yogi Bear reruns than CNN.
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Bio1590
11/13/18 5:19:22 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
FOX had no argument when Obama kicked out a reporter that constantly interrupted the president. CNN likewise has no argument for ejecting a reporter that likewise kept interrupting the president. CNN is just trying to parade this around and cry victim so that people will pay attention to them. Right now, literally more people pay attention to Yogi Bear reruns than CNN.

Are you perhaps talking about this "incident"?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-reporter-press-conference/
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Bio1590
11/13/18 5:20:51 PM
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Also let's not forget that Fox News supported CNN the last time the White House purposely excluded a CNN reporter from an event earlier this year

https://thehill.com/media/398901-fox-news-comes-out-in-support-of-cnn-after-white-house-bans-reporter
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HiddenLurker
11/13/18 5:23:07 PM
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Couldn't they just pick someone else less of an asshole?
Sure he ain"t as big of one as Trump but he sure is trying.
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P4wn4g3
11/13/18 6:07:11 PM
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HiddenLurker posted...
Couldn't they just pick someone else less of an asshole?
Sure he ain"t as big of one as Trump but he sure is trying.

He's within his rights to refuse any and all questions from CNN, but he's also an idiot who doesn't understand how law works.
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CiIantro
11/13/18 6:11:05 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
FOX had no argument when Obama kicked out a reporter that constantly interrupted the president. CNN likewise has no argument for ejecting a reporter that likewise kept interrupting the president. CNN is just trying to parade this around and cry victim so that people will pay attention to them. Right now, literally more people pay attention to Yogi Bear reruns than CNN.

Are you perhaps talking about this "incident"?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-reporter-press-conference/

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ZMythos
11/13/18 6:11:38 PM
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fight4yaright posted...
He was banned because his hate for Trump sent him into a furious rage, lashing out on a poor innocent aide, just trying to do her job.

Man do you even chew the shit you shovel in your mouth
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/13/18 6:12:47 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
FOX had no argument when Obama kicked out a reporter that constantly interrupted the president. CNN likewise has no argument for ejecting a reporter that likewise kept interrupting the president. CNN is just trying to parade this around and cry victim so that people will pay attention to them. Right now, literally more people pay attention to Yogi Bear reruns than CNN.


BuT oBaMa!
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Superlinkbro
11/13/18 6:16:33 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
ssj3vegeta_ posted...
I hope cnn wins

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Ruvan22
11/13/18 8:42:16 PM
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CiIantro posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
FOX had no argument when Obama kicked out a reporter that constantly interrupted the president. CNN likewise has no argument for ejecting a reporter that likewise kept interrupting the president. CNN is just trying to parade this around and cry victim so that people will pay attention to them. Right now, literally more people pay attention to Yogi Bear reruns than CNN.

Are you perhaps talking about this "incident"?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-reporter-press-conference/

Pwnd


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DarkRoast
11/13/18 8:47:06 PM
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I guess he'll have to cover Trump from Acosta street.
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thronedfire2
11/13/18 8:48:08 PM
#74:


0TiamaT0 posted...
Acosta acts like an asshole, thats why he got banned.

I dont care what President is in office, doing the things he does is unprofessional.


so when are we gonna ban Trump from the White House for being unprofessional?
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Nomadic View
11/13/18 10:24:11 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
FOX had no argument when Obama kicked out a reporter that constantly interrupted the president. CNN likewise has no argument for ejecting a reporter that likewise kept interrupting the president. CNN is just trying to parade this around and cry victim so that people will pay attention to them. Right now, literally more people pay attention to Yogi Bear reruns than CNN.

Are you perhaps talking about this "incident"?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-reporter-press-conference/


Did you even watch the video on your own source?
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The Great Muta 22
11/13/18 10:33:06 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
Did you even watch the video on your own source?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5Z5ul6eaNk" data-time="


That video? The one with an LGBT protester who got kicked out for demanding that Obama release all the LGBT immigrant detainees and stop deportations?

How is that comparable here?
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Bio1590
11/13/18 10:42:43 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
FOX had no argument when Obama kicked out a reporter that constantly interrupted the president. CNN likewise has no argument for ejecting a reporter that likewise kept interrupting the president. CNN is just trying to parade this around and cry victim so that people will pay attention to them. Right now, literally more people pay attention to Yogi Bear reruns than CNN.

Are you perhaps talking about this "incident"?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-reporter-press-conference/


Did you even watch the video on your own source?

The video does not describe what you said though. Sounds like you're just parroting more StormFront rhetoric again.
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Bio1590
11/13/18 10:46:35 PM
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Also why are you even talking about reporters being kicked out? That's not relevant here. That is not what happened.
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Sonicblack35
11/13/18 10:55:23 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
Did you even watch the video on your own source?


Oh it looks like he's doubling down, folks! Let's see how that plays out for him.
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Axiom
11/13/18 11:00:51 PM
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Nice. The white house and Trump should pay for their corruption and fake news
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ehhwhatever
11/13/18 11:07:22 PM
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It looked like an argument between journalists and a President and people are blaming Trump (what is next?)
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Darmik
11/13/18 11:22:27 PM
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It's funny watching people desperately try to find a comparable scenario with Obama. I've also seen the whole 'He kicked journalists off a plane!' thing which I'm surprised hasn't been posted here.
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Knowledge_King
11/14/18 11:27:10 AM
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Dumb lawsuit IMO
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LightHawKnight
11/14/18 11:28:55 AM
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People say CNN will win cause journalists are supposed to get warning that their pass is getting taken away, not taken at the gates.
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