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008Zulu 11/14/18 11:40:06 PM #52:	Would Wonder Woman have a somehow less emotional journey if she died, or had her back broken? Why didn't Doomsday whip out his... I am uncertain if he had genitals actually, but anyway, give Superman a rough time? Not sure what the term is I am looking for here, but why is the only emotional journey a woman can experience is rape? --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:912427262] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>Would Wonder Woman have a somehow less emotional journey if she died, or had her back broken? Why didn't Doomsday whip out his... I am uncertain if he had genitals actually, but anyway, give Superman a rough time? Not sure what the term is I am looking for here, but why is the only emotional journey a woman can experience is rape?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MelzezDoor 11/14/18 11:48:20 PM #53:	fusespliff posted... Calling Invincible a ripoff just shows you haven't read it. All he shares with Superman is being a superpowered alien. All he shares with Nightwing is a last name. You could make a better case for it ripping off DBZ, but that still would be BS. Pretty sure that comment referred to the character not the series. --- https://imgur.com/ARaZB2G https://imgur.com/LvEUiSl <cite>MelzezDoor posted [p:912427630] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>fusespliff posted...</cite> <quote>Calling Invincible a ripoff just shows you haven't read it. All he shares with Superman is being a superpowered alien. All he shares with Nightwing is a last name. You could make a better case for it ripping off DBZ, but that still would be BS.</quote> Pretty sure that comment referred to the character not the series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 11/14/18 11:48:32 PM #54:	008Zulu posted... Would Wonder Woman have a somehow less emotional journey if she died, or had her back broken? Why didn't Doomsday whip out his... I am uncertain if he had genitals actually, but anyway, give Superman a rough time? Not sure what the term is I am looking for here, but why is the only emotional journey a woman can experience is rape? Feel free to disagree, but in the case of Wonder Woman, death, I imagine, would be an honorable way to go. Being raped, on the other hand, that would be a violation, both literally and figuratively of what her character is and stands for. The Death of Superman was a story of how the world had to deal with their god dying, not the story of how Superman dealt with his death while dead... because he was dead. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 20; PiO ATTN: 3 RotM wins 1, https://i.imgtc.com/Ejs0WrG.jpg <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:912427643] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>Would Wonder Woman have a somehow less emotional journey if she died, or had her back broken? Why didn't Doomsday whip out his... I am uncertain if he had genitals actually, but anyway, give Superman a rough time? Not sure what the term is I am looking for here, but why is the only emotional journey a woman can experience is rape?</quote> Feel free to disagree, but in the case of Wonder Woman, death, I imagine, would be an honorable way to go. Being raped, on the other hand, that would be a violation, both literally and figuratively of what her character is and stands for. The Death of Superman was a story of how the world had to deal with their god dying, not the story of how Superman dealt with his death while dead... because he was dead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 11/14/18 11:50:53 PM #55:	UnfairRepresent posted... Harelyquinn also raped Robin (or nightwing whatever) in one of the shitty movies. She captured him, tied him to a bed and fucked him against his will. Roles reversed and the movie would be banned If the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be banned, but it definitely wouldn't have been played for laughs either. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:912427756] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Harelyquinn also raped Robin (or nightwing whatever) in one of the shitty movies. She captured him, tied him to a bed and fucked him against his will. Roles reversed and the movie would be banned</quote> If the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be banned, but it definitely wouldn't have been played for laughs either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fusespliff 11/14/18 11:51:06 PM #56:	MelzezDoor posted... fusespliff posted... Calling Invincible a ripoff just shows you haven't read it. All he shares with Superman is being a superpowered alien. All he shares with Nightwing is a last name. You could make a better case for it ripping off DBZ, but that still would be BS. Pretty sure that comment referred to the character not the series. The character is named Invincible. The series is named for the character. --- ... <cite>fusespliff posted [p:912427766] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>MelzezDoor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fusespliff posted...</cite> <quote>Calling Invincible a ripoff just shows you haven't read it. All he shares with Superman is being a superpowered alien. All he shares with Nightwing is a last name. You could make a better case for it ripping off DBZ, but that still would be BS.</quote> Pretty sure that comment referred to the character not the series.</quote> The character is named Invincible. The series is named for the character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 11/14/18 11:51:24 PM #57:	Little did he know that society would be so sensitive that despite being cancelled people would still find it and be offended by it in 2018. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:912427782] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>Little did he know that society would be so sensitive that despite being cancelled people would still find it and be offended by it in 2018.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/15/18 12:03:01 AM #58:	I think Wonder Woman is a horrible choice for this style of story. I think if your idea is to dedicate 22 pages to the rape itself you're probably not the right person for the job to do this kind of plot in general. Would have been a horrible move by DC if they went with it. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:912428316] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>I think Wonder Woman is a horrible choice for this style of story. I think if your idea is to dedicate 22 pages to the rape itself you're probably not the right person for the job to do this kind of plot in general. Would have been a horrible move by DC if they went with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MelzezDoor 11/15/18 12:45:18 AM #59:	fusespliff posted... MelzezDoor posted... fusespliff posted... Calling Invincible a ripoff just shows you haven't read it. All he shares with Superman is being a superpowered alien. All he shares with Nightwing is a last name. You could make a better case for it ripping off DBZ, but that still would be BS. Pretty sure that comment referred to the character not the series. The character is named Invincible. The series is named for the character. ....hence my post you quoted. --- https://imgur.com/ARaZB2G https://imgur.com/LvEUiSl <cite>MelzezDoor posted [p:912429857] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>fusespliff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MelzezDoor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fusespliff posted...</cite> <quote>Calling Invincible a ripoff just shows you haven't read it. All he shares with Superman is being a superpowered alien. All he shares with Nightwing is a last name. You could make a better case for it ripping off DBZ, but that still would be BS.</quote> Pretty sure that comment referred to the character not the series.</quote> The character is named Invincible. The series is named for the character.</quote> ....hence my post you quoted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 11/15/18 12:50:19 AM #60:	UnfairRepresent posted... Harelyquinn also raped Robin (or nightwing whatever) in one of the shitty movies. She captured him, tied him to a bed and fucked him against his will. No, she didn't. Just because you didn't like a movie, doesn't give you the right to make bold faced lies about it. --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:912430008] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Harelyquinn also raped Robin (or nightwing whatever) in one of the shitty movies. She captured him, tied him to a bed and fucked him against his will. </quote> No, she didn't. Just because you didn't like a movie, doesn't give you the right to make bold faced lies about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 11/15/18 12:53:32 AM #61:	lol --- https://imgur.com/cNZKu2C <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:912430112] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fusespliff 11/15/18 12:57:39 AM #62:	MelzezDoor posted... fusespliff posted... MelzezDoor posted... fusespliff posted... Calling Invincible a ripoff just shows you haven't read it. All he shares with Superman is being a superpowered alien. All he shares with Nightwing is a last name. You could make a better case for it ripping off DBZ, but that still would be BS. Pretty sure that comment referred to the character not the series. The character is named Invincible. The series is named for the character. ....hence my post you quoted. Then what point were you trying to make? The comment I was replying to was about the character, my reply was about the character. So what point did your "uhm actually" post serve here? --- ... <cite>fusespliff posted [p:912430248] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>MelzezDoor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fusespliff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MelzezDoor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fusespliff posted...</cite> <quote>Calling Invincible a ripoff just shows you haven't read it. All he shares with Superman is being a superpowered alien. All he shares with Nightwing is a last name. You could make a better case for it ripping off DBZ, but that still would be BS.</quote> Pretty sure that comment referred to the character not the series.</quote> The character is named Invincible. The series is named for the character.</quote> ....hence my post you quoted.</quote> Then what point were you trying to make? The comment I was replying to was about the character, my reply was about the character. So what point did your "uhm actually" post serve here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1 11/15/18 1:06:37 AM #63:	unreleased Not surprised. --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ <cite>The Wheelman1 posted [p:912430552] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>unreleased Not surprised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 11/15/18 1:18:37 AM #64:	How do you even spend 22 pages about rape? Kinda feels like something that would be off-screen and most of it would be about dealing with it, which has happened multiple times in these comics before --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://imgur.com/JGJqvwW <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:912430945] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>How do you even spend 22 pages about rape? Kinda feels like something that would be off-screen and most of it would be about dealing with it, which has happened multiple times in these comics before</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 11/15/18 2:58:21 AM #65:	Ivynn posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Harelyquinn also raped Robin (or nightwing whatever) in one of the shitty movies. She captured him, tied him to a bed and fucked him against his will. Roles reversed and the movie would be banned If the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be banned, but it definitely wouldn't have been played for laughs either. yes it would --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:912433845] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ivynn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Harelyquinn also raped Robin (or nightwing whatever) in one of the shitty movies. She captured him, tied him to a bed and fucked him against his will. Roles reversed and the movie would be banned</quote> If the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be banned, but it definitely wouldn't have been played for laughs either.</quote> yes it would</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 11/15/18 8:19:05 PM #66:	UnfairRepresent posted... Ivynn posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Harelyquinn also raped Robin (or nightwing whatever) in one of the shitty movies. She captured him, tied him to a bed and fucked him against his will. Roles reversed and the movie would be banned If the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be banned, but it definitely wouldn't have been played for laughs either. yes it would Re-watch the scene, she seduced him, the sex was consensual. --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:912477282] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ivynn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Harelyquinn also raped Robin (or nightwing whatever) in one of the shitty movies. She captured him, tied him to a bed and fucked him against his will. Roles reversed and the movie would be banned</quote> If the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be banned, but it definitely wouldn't have been played for laughs either.</quote> yes it would</quote> Re-watch the scene, she seduced him, the sex was consensual.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 11/15/18 8:23:36 PM #67:	darkphoenix181 posted... Robin got raped. For real Hulk got raped too. It was in the first Maestro storyline. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:912477547] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Robin got raped. For real</quote> Hulk got raped too. It was in the first Maestro storyline.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 11/16/18 3:36:43 PM #68:	Would a list of superheroes who weren't raped be shorter --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:912520104] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>Would a list of superheroes who weren't raped be shorter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 11/18/18 12:34:04 AM #69:	Proto_Spark posted... a twenty-two page rape scene that opened up into a gatefold at the end No. I feel like a 22-page rape scene should be like, illegal. What crime would this fall under? --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:912597204] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>Proto_Spark posted...</cite> <quote><quote> a twenty-two page rape scene that opened up into a gatefold at the end</quote> No. I feel like a 22-page rape scene should be like, illegal.</quote> What crime would this fall under?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 11/18/18 12:50:23 AM #70:	22 pages does seem a bit excessive even if for a good laugh --- https://imgur.com/mRP9Jej <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:912597718] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>22 pages does seem a bit excessive even if for a good laugh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shokan_warrior 11/18/18 12:54:48 AM #71:	The casca scene felt like 23 pages --- never don't give up <cite>shokan_warrior posted [p:912597864] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>The casca scene felt like 23 pages</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 11/18/18 2:01:24 PM #73:	Returning_CEmen posted... 22 pages does seem a bit excessive even if for a good laugh Yeah most fans aren't interested in extended scenes of rape. There's an infamous manga called Wolf Guy that is just despised by practically everyone cause the author thought it would be a good idea to have the heroine get gangraped for multiple chapters near the end <cite>Axiom posted [p:912620215] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>Returning_CEmen posted...</cite> <quote>22 pages does seem a bit excessive even if for a good laugh</quote> Yeah most fans aren't interested in extended scenes of rape. There's an infamous manga called Wolf Guy that is just despised by practically everyone cause the author thought it would be a good idea to have the heroine get gangraped for multiple chapters near the end</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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awesome999 11/20/18 4:13:13 AM #76:	WafflehouseJK posted... spudger posted... Hayame Zero posted... Kelystic posted... "I pitched this to DC for a laugh years back. o_o yeah wtf. if that dude was raped i doubt he'd make a joke about it. Yeah no, as someone who's been raped, joking about that stuff is a necessary coping mechanism for a lot of people. Umm, waffle, what happened? --- When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk <cite>awesome999 posted [p:912724071] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>WafflehouseJK posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hayame Zero posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kelystic posted...</cite> <quote>"I pitched this to DC for a laugh years back. </quote> o_o</quote> yeah wtf. if that dude was raped i doubt he'd make a joke about it.</quote> Yeah no, as someone who's been raped, joking about that stuff is a necessary coping mechanism for a lot of people.</quote> Umm, waffle, what happened?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 11/20/18 4:29:13 AM #77:	spudger posted... Hayame Zero posted... Kelystic posted... "I pitched this to DC for a laugh years back. o_o yeah wtf. if that dude was raped i doubt he'd make a joke about it. "For a laugh" in meaning he pitched and he knew it would get turned down. He wanted to see their reaction. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:912724365] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hayame Zero posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kelystic posted...</cite> <quote>"I pitched this to DC for a laugh years back. </quote> o_o</quote> yeah wtf. if that dude was raped i doubt he'd make a joke about it.</quote> "For a laugh" in meaning he pitched and he knew it would get turned down. He wanted to see their reaction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 11/21/18 9:04:32 AM #78:	ArmieBuff posted... PiOverlord posted... 008Zulu posted... Would Wonder Woman have a somehow less emotional journey if she died, or had her back broken? Why didn't Doomsday whip out his... I am uncertain if he had genitals actually, but anyway, give Superman a rough time? Not sure what the term is I am looking for here, but why is the only emotional journey a woman can experience is rape? Feel free to disagree, but in the case of Wonder Woman, death, I imagine, would be an honorable way to go. Being raped, on the other hand, that would be a violation, both literally and figuratively of what her character is and stands for. The Death of Superman was a story of how the world had to deal with their god dying, not the story of how Superman dealt with his death while dead... because he was dead. Didn't know Wonder Woman was a viking I mean, Vikings aren't the only culture that glorifies death. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 20; PiO ATTN: 3 RotM wins 1, https://i.imgtc.com/Ejs0WrG.jpg <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:912788917] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote><cite>ArmieBuff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PiOverlord posted...</cite> <quote><cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>Would Wonder Woman have a somehow less emotional journey if she died, or had her back broken? Why didn't Doomsday whip out his... I am uncertain if he had genitals actually, but anyway, give Superman a rough time? Not sure what the term is I am looking for here, but why is the only emotional journey a woman can experience is rape?</quote> Feel free to disagree, but in the case of Wonder Woman, death, I imagine, would be an honorable way to go. Being raped, on the other hand, that would be a violation, both literally and figuratively of what her character is and stands for. The Death of Superman was a story of how the world had to deal with their god dying, not the story of how Superman dealt with his death while dead... because he was dead.</quote> Didn't know Wonder Woman was a viking</quote> I mean, Vikings aren't the only culture that glorifies death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gheb 11/21/18 10:15:24 AM #79:	The problem with rape in comics is that it is rarely given any sort of the emotional heft a story like that deserves. More often than not it's just lazily used on female characters to give them tragic backstories or "depth". Mark Millar is definitely not the person to write a story about rape. Mark Millar is at his best when he has minimal creative freedom and watched heavily by editorial. Or when he can just have Grant Morrison ghost write for him. --- S** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again.* - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl <cite>Gheb posted [p:912791511] in The Rape o... [t:77196624]...</cite> <quote>The problem with rape in comics is that it is rarely given any sort of the emotional heft a story like that deserves. More often than not it's just lazily used on female characters to give them tragic backstories or "depth". Mark Millar is definitely not the person to write a story about rape. Mark Millar is at his best when he has minimal creative freedom and watched heavily by editorial. Or when he can just have Grant Morrison ghost write for him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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