Current Events > "55,000 of my neighbours voted for a Neo-Nazi"

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/letters/ct-letters-arthur-jones-nazi-lipinski-20181107-story.html

The most disturbing thing for me about this year's election is that over 25 percent of my neighbors voted for a neo-Nazi. While incumbent Democrat Dan Lipinski easily defeated the Republican candidate Arthur Jones in the Illinois 3rd Congressional District, I am appalled that Jones received even one vote.

This isn't hyperbole. Jones is a former member of the American Nazi Party and an outspoken Holocaust denier. He brags of attending racist and white-supremacist events. His political symbol is an elephant representing the GOP draped with a Confederate flag. With all the finger-pointing that this candidate or that elected official promotes racist, fascist or totalitarian ideals, Jones stands out as the real McCoy.

No one needed to vote for Jones. The Republican Party rightfully distanced itself from him, and, if you did not want to vote for Lipinski, there were two more conservative candidates that voters could have written in. Still over 55,000 of my neighbors in the Chicago-area chose to vote for Jones, and we should be ashamed of this. His vote tally serves as a stark reminder that there are Americans who are willing to forget our nation's struggles with the very dark policies that he promotes.

Peter Okkema, La Grange

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republicans are nazis.

we know.

Bio1590 posted...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/letters/ct-letters-arthur-jones-nazi-lipinski-20181107-story.html

The most disturbing thing for me about this year's election is that over 25 percent of my neighbors voted for a neo-Nazi. While incumbent Democrat Dan Lipinski easily defeated the Republican candidate Arthur Jones in the Illinois 3rd Congressional District, I am appalled that Jones received even one vote.

This isn't hyperbole. Jones is a former member of the American Nazi Party and an outspoken Holocaust denier. He brags of attending racist and white-supremacist events. His political symbol is an elephant representing the GOP draped with a Confederate flag. With all the finger-pointing that this candidate or that elected official promotes racist, fascist or totalitarian ideals, Jones stands out as the real McCoy.

No one needed to vote for Jones. The Republican Party rightfully distanced itself from him, and, if you did not want to vote for Lipinski, there were two more conservative candidates that voters could have written in. Still over 55,000 of my neighbors in the Chicago-area chose to vote for Jones, and we should be ashamed of this. His vote tally serves as a stark reminder that there are Americans who are willing to forget our nation's struggles with the very dark policies that he promotes.

Peter Okkema, La Grange

Bullshit. He ran with an R next to his name.

Grey Skull: he-man has nothing to do with me. He just has the sword of grey skull and screams by the power of grey skull! Before transforming!

if arthur fucking jones can get 55k votes they could run a hitler/himmler and people would vote for them if they had the magical (r).

wow
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I wonder how many voters participated. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of that was uninformed voters voting a straight ballot.

I really dislike the straight ballot system.

Disgusting
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"we're not for Neo-Nazis! we're just okay with Republicans who are for Neo-Nazis!"
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RoastedCapuccin posted...

Bullshit. He ran with an R next to his name.

Yes, because I don't think they could legally stop him, but they did publicly denounce him.
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NeoShadowhen posted...

I wonder how many voters participated. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of that was uninformed voters voting a straight ballot.

I really dislike the straight ballot system.

nah they all knew what they are doing. republicans only feign ignorance.

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

Maybe it's an 'end justifies the means' narrative. They might support his policies and don't think the fact that he's a neo-Nazi will be relevant w/r/t what he'll be given rein to do.

nemu posted...

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

I'm pretty sure the guy is actually fairly well-known. He's run for a lot of city-level, state-level, and federal-level Government positions over the years.
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MonkeySee posted...

Maybe it's an 'end justifies the means' narrative. They might support his policies and don't think the fact that he's a neo-Nazi will be relevant w/r/t what he'll be given rein to do.

from what I can tell his 'policies' are just ranting about jews
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Alphamon posted...

NeoShadowhen posted...

I wonder how many voters participated. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of that was uninformed voters voting a straight ballot.

I really dislike the straight ballot system.

nah they all knew what they are doing. republicans only feign ignorance.

I doubt it's all. But I'm certainly not going to deny the Illinois Nazis are a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z75DN5r_6H4" data-time="

ClunkerSlim posted...

Honestly, Id be pretty fucking concerned to. If the Trump presidency is remembered for one thing then itll be shining a light on how many of these people are still out there.

Amen
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nemu posted...

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

This guy is an unabashed racist and white nationalist. YouTube some of his interviews, the guy is even more overtly racist than Steve King.
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Taharqa_ posted...

nemu posted...

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

This guy is an unabashed racist and white nationalist. YouTube some of his interviews, the guy is even more overtly racist than Steve King.

he makes steve king look progressive in comparison. jones openly supports stuff like the holocaust.
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Bio1590 posted...

RoastedCapuccin posted...

Bullshit. He ran with an R next to his name.

Yes, because I don't think they could legally stop him, but they did publicly denounce him.

Do as I say, not as I do.

They didnt even bother running somebody in the primary so he wouldnt win. They stopped him legally in the past too.

Theyre simply normalizing things. One day you see a literal Nazi running as a Republican. The next time it is no longer a shock. The next time after that they can say we repudiate these hateful views, but he will be much better for the economy and national security than a Democrat! And back someone like him.

nemu posted...

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

And that is part of the experiment theyre running here.

Prolly people who voted straight R without knowing who was even on the ballot. They really should make voting days national holidays where you go in and before you can vote for anyone you have to read each of the person's public statements/speeches or something.

Taharqa_ posted...

nemu posted...

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

This guy is an unabashed racist and white nationalist. YouTube some of his interviews, the guy is even more overtly racist than Steve King.

It doesn't really matter if nobody actually watches those videos. As someone who doesn't vote, I know literally nothing about any candidate from the recent election in my state. I don't know their names, faces, or policies. I'm sure there are quite a large number of people like me, but they still go out to vote because of the whole "civic duty" mentality. That doesn't mean that there wasn't a percentage of people who knowingly voted for him while knowing everything about him, but this article shouldn't act like it's a nazi problem without some kind of evidence to back it.

nemu posted...

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

MonkeySee posted...

Maybe it's an 'end justifies the means' narrative. They might support his policies and don't think the fact that he's a neo-Nazi will be relevant w/r/t what he'll be given rein to do.

Bio1590 posted...

nemu posted...

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

I'm pretty sure the guy is actually fairly well-known. He's run for a lot of city-level, state-level, and federal-level Government positions over the years.

The first two are true to extent no doubt. The third is also true but its amazing how ignorant/untrusting some people are.

I doubt anywhere close to all 55K voted for him bevause he is a Nazi or even knew he was a Nazi.

That doesnt mean a solid miniority of them didnt both know and approve of it.
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pikachupwnage posted...

nemu posted...

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

MonkeySee posted...

Maybe it's an 'end justifies the means' narrative. They might support his policies and don't think the fact that he's a neo-Nazi will be relevant w/r/t what he'll be given rein to do.

Bio1590 posted...

nemu posted...

The question is how many of them knew. I'd imagine there are quite a large number of people who vote knowing nothing more than "X party good, Y party bad."

I'm pretty sure the guy is actually fairly well-known. He's run for a lot of city-level, state-level, and federal-level Government positions over the years.

The first two are true to extent no doubt. The third is also true but its amazing how ignorant/untrusting some people are.

I doubt anywhere close to all 55K voted for him bevause he is a Nazi or even knew he was a Nazi.

That doesnt mean a solid miniority of them didnt both know and approve of it.

This is almost as bad. This means that some open Nazi like Steve king or Stephen Miller (inb4 he is Jewish lol), a slightly more subtle one like Tom cotton csn work their way up to presidential candidate and simply win because republican voters are literally low-info voters and will just select the magical R every time

I don't think Steve King could, he did win but it's by far his worst showing in an election and I don't think your support cratering at a level that low could translate well at all to a state level.

The rest of Iowa did go Blue.
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Now its a ghost town
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