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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:09:39 PM
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Despite what conservatives believe, Roe being overturned doesn't equal a federal abortion ban. It just means that states can make it illegal. Most states will not do this, so people who live in third world America can simply go to another state and get the abortion done.
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:11:07 PM
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Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin.
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Caution999
11/08/18 1:11:51 PM
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You would be correct, sir.
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glitteringfairy
11/08/18 1:12:03 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin.

Fuckin Hail Satan. This.
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:12:59 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin.

Nobody cares what your magic sky monster thinks.

The supreme court does :)
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ThePrinceFish
11/08/18 1:13:10 PM
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So what you're saying is, we'd have a correct interpretation of who legislates abortion legality as per the Constitution? Shocking.
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:13:53 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin.

Nobody cares what your magic sky monster thinks.

The supreme court does :)

But abortions will still happen whether you and your God like it or not :)
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0AbsoluteZero0
11/08/18 1:13:55 PM
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Unfortunately it would be the poorest and most unable to bear the costs of travel who would be unable to have abortions thanks to this. Good thing the Republicans who deny them abortion are compassionate and will gladly help these poor people with their new children, right?
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:15:17 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin.

Nobody cares what your magic sky monster thinks.

The supreme court does :)

But abortions will still happen whether you and your God like it or not :)

And they will be judged and our country will be moral again :)
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Rad_Chad
11/08/18 1:15:40 PM
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I wish they cared as much after it was born
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:15:50 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Unfortunately it would be the poorest and most unable to bear the costs of travel who would be unable to have abortions thanks to this. Good thing the Republicans who deny them abortion are compassionate and will gladly help these poor people with their new children, right?

They will still more than likely get dangerous back alley abortions. Hell, I knew a girl in HS who got pregnant and didn't want her parents to find out, so she had her boyfriend punch her in the stomach several times
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ChainedRedone
11/08/18 1:16:20 PM
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We already have started where it is de facto illegal
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:17:39 PM
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Rad_Chad posted...
I wish they cared as much after it was born

Not our responsibility. Why do (D) want to take care of other mens children so badly?
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:19:15 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
I wish they cared as much after it was born

Not our responsibility. Why do (D) want to take care of other mens children so badly?

I love how you're fine with the fact that unwanted children are almost certainly to be neglected and abused.
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Romulox28
11/08/18 1:19:23 PM
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the people with resources will go to other states. the people with little to no money will not, they will just birth a child they cannot afford & the cycle of poverty will continue
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:20:07 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
I wish they cared as much after it was born

Not our responsibility. Why do (D) want to take care of other mens children so badly?

I love how you're fine with the fact that unwanted children are almost certainly to be neglected and abused.

Not my problem.
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:21:30 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
I wish they cared as much after it was born

Not our responsibility. Why do (D) want to take care of other mens children so badly?

I love how you're fine with the fact that unwanted children are almost certainly to be neglected and abused.

Not my problem.

Sickening. Jesus would be ashamed.
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:23:04 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
I wish they cared as much after it was born

Not our responsibility. Why do (D) want to take care of other mens children so badly?

I love how you're fine with the fact that unwanted children are almost certainly to be neglected and abused.

Not my problem.

Sickening. Jesus would be ashamed.

Jesus would be ashamed at the parents who decided to partake in unnatural acts.
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frozenshock
11/08/18 1:23:56 PM
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Conservatives think that if Liberals are allowed to have their way abortions will be mandatory.
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Tmaster148
11/08/18 1:24:27 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
I wish they cared as much after it was born

Not our responsibility. Why do (D) want to take care of other mens children so badly?

I love how you're fine with the fact that unwanted children are almost certainly to be neglected and abused.

Not my problem.

Sickening. Jesus would be ashamed.

Jesus would be ashamed at the parents who decided to partake in unnatural acts.


What are you 13? Human bodies are literally designed to have sex. Every animal is.
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:24:29 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
I wish they cared as much after it was born

Not our responsibility. Why do (D) want to take care of other mens children so badly?

I love how you're fine with the fact that unwanted children are almost certainly to be neglected and abused.

Not my problem.

Sickening. Jesus would be ashamed.

Jesus would be ashamed at the parents who decided to partake in unnatural acts.

Jesus helped the poor and believed in being generous. That is the polar opposite of how you people live their lives.
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:28:33 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
I wish they cared as much after it was born

Not our responsibility. Why do (D) want to take care of other mens children so badly?

I love how you're fine with the fact that unwanted children are almost certainly to be neglected and abused.

Not my problem.

Sickening. Jesus would be ashamed.

Jesus would be ashamed at the parents who decided to partake in unnatural acts.


What are you 13? Human bodies are literally designed to have sex. Every animal is.

For the purpose of procreation not entertainment. Abortions aren't necessary when we follow Gods plan.
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:31:09 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Jesus helped the poor and believed in being generous.

I do this every single day through ministry and spreading scripture.
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:32:00 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Jesus helped the poor and believed in being generous.

I do this every single day through ministry and spreading scripture.

That isn't doing anything to help the poor improve their lives.
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Questionmarktarius
11/08/18 1:32:01 PM
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Axiom
11/08/18 1:32:08 PM
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iClockwork posted...

For the purpose of procreation not entertainment. Abortions aren't necessary we follow Gods plan.

Lol you've jumped the shark with your gimmick

Anyway pro-lifers are pro suffering and should be ashamed of themselves
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:33:34 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Jesus helped the poor and believed in being generous.

I do this every single day through ministry and spreading scripture.

That isn't doing anything to help the poor improve their lives.

It helps them find peace and understanding by knowing they are loved. If feel sorry for people like you who only value $$$
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Tmaster148
11/08/18 1:33:46 PM
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iClockwork posted...

For the purpose of procreation not entertainment. Abortions aren't necessary when we follow Gods plan.


Nature doesn't know the difference. It's always going to be natural regardless of what a book of fiction has you believe.
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Cookie Bag
11/08/18 1:34:30 PM
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Axiom posted...
Lol you've jumped the shark with your gimmick

He has jumped several sharks over the course of the year and people still entertain his bullshit lol
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Jaded_Dragon
11/08/18 1:34:46 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin.

Nobody cares what your magic sky monster thinks.

The supreme court does :)

But abortions will still happen whether you and your God like it or not :)


The old testament supported abortion as it was seen as god's judgement.

Numbers 5-11-22

Maybe people who pretend to be christian/catholic should like.... read the bible?
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hollow_shrine
11/08/18 1:36:16 PM
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People with means will try, but a lot of people who need an abortion may not have those means. That doesn't mean they won't still try and abort the pregnancy. They'll just do it in unsafe ways that leave them vulnerable to abuse by potentially unscrupulous physicians, they way they did a hundred years ago.
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:37:02 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Jesus helped the poor and believed in being generous.

I do this every single day through ministry and spreading scripture.

That isn't doing anything to help the poor improve their lives.

It helps them find peace and understanding by knowing they are loved. If feel sorry for people like you who only value $$$

Yeah, theres no way youre a serious person. I don't believe in the ignore list but i tagged you appropriately.
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Questionmarktarius
11/08/18 1:37:15 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
Maybe people who pretend to be christian/catholic should like.... read the bible?

So... we should pay Planned Parenthood with a sack of flour?
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:38:27 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Jesus helped the poor and believed in being generous.

I do this every single day through ministry and spreading scripture.

That isn't doing anything to help the poor improve their lives.

It helps them find peace and understanding by knowing they are loved. If feel sorry for people like you who only value $$$

Yeah, theres no way youre a serious person. I don't believe in the ignore list but i tagged you appropriately.

No logical response only ad hominem.
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:39:02 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Jesus helped the poor and believed in being generous.

I do this every single day through ministry and spreading scripture.

That isn't doing anything to help the poor improve their lives.

It helps them find peace and understanding by knowing they are loved. If feel sorry for people like you who only value $$$

Yeah, theres no way youre a serious person. I don't believe in the ignore list but i tagged you appropriately.

No logical response only ad hominem.

Logic and religion are like oil and water
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Damn_Underscore
11/08/18 1:39:47 PM
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I really don't care if abortion is legal or not.

Depending on the circumstances of it, you know if it's right or wrong. Or maybe it's still the right decision even though there are a ton of negatives to it. Let people make their own decisions. God will judge them for better or worse after they die.

Also, @Jaded_Dragon literally quoting the Torah to justify abortion and saying that is Christianity. I hope that was sarcastic.
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:43:01 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I really don't care if abortion is legal or not.

Depending on the circumstances of it, you know if it's right or wrong. Or maybe it's still the right decision even though there are a ton of negatives to it. Let people make their own decisions. God will judge them for better or worse after they die.

Also, @Jaded_Dragon literally quoting the Torah to justify abortion and saying that is Christianity. I hope that was sarcastic.

The torah is the old testament which is part of the bible.
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SunburnCostanza
11/08/18 1:43:48 PM
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Unfortunately going to another state is really not as easy for some as it is for others
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Damn_Underscore
11/08/18 1:44:27 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
The torah is the old testament which is part of the bible.


What is your point?
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iClockwork
11/08/18 1:46:40 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Also, @Jaded_Dragon literally quoting the Torah to justify abortion and saying that is Christianity. I hope that was sarcastic.

Its a dumb argument either way. It isnt describing an abortion its describing a potential miscarriage. Drinking the water doesn't necessarily result in the childs death like a doctor with a vacuum cleaner does.
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Genocet_10-325
11/08/18 1:49:07 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
Guys take a step back and ask yourselves "does clockwork seem serious? Should I keep responding to him?"

Yeah thats why I stopped and tagged him to remind me never to take him seriously
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Smashingpmkns
11/08/18 1:49:27 PM
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Abortions are super useful tbh. Hopefully the shit hole states that want to get rid of it change their minds.
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Thatuser
11/08/18 1:51:25 PM
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That's fine. Federal government, well, state too, has too much say in how other people choose to live as it is.
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Jaded_Dragon
11/08/18 2:14:44 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I really don't care if abortion is legal or not.

Depending on the circumstances of it, you know if it's right or wrong. Or maybe it's still the right decision even though there are a ton of negatives to it. Let people make their own decisions. God will judge them for better or worse after they die.

Also, @Jaded_Dragon literally quoting the Torah to justify abortion and saying that is Christianity. I hope that was sarcastic.


Is the old testament:

The Torah is the first part of the Jewish bible. ... Torah refers to the five books of Moses which are known in Hebrew as Chameesha Choomshey Torah. These are: Bresheit (Genesis), Shemot (Exodus), Vayicra (Leviticus), Bamidbar (Numbers), and Devarim (Deuteronomy).


The Old Testament (abbreviated OT) is the first part of Christian Bibles, based primarily upon the Hebrew Bible (or Tanakh), a collection of ancient religious writings by the Israelites believed by most Christians and religious Jews to be the sacred Word of God.


The King James Version (KJV), also known as the King James Bible (KJB) or simply the Authorized Version (AV), is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England, begun in 1604 and completed/published in 1611.


In the King Jame's Bible


Numbers 5:11-22 King James Version (KJV)

11 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

12 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him,

13 And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner;

14 And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:

15 Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance.

16 And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the Lord:

17 And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water:

18 And the priest shall set the woman before the Lord, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse:

19 And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:

20 But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:

21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;

22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.



So again, try reading the bible sometime. You may find that things you claim the bible is against (abortion) is actually proposed as a legitimate way to determine if your wife has been unfaithful or not. Don't blame me for what your shitty holy book says.
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ThePrinceFish
11/08/18 2:18:11 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
So again, try reading the bible sometime. You may find that things you claim the bible is against (abortion) is actually proposed as a legitimate way to determine if your wife has been unfaithful or not. Don't blame me for what your shitty holy book says.

I'd be cool with publicly funded abortions if abortion meant that a priest gives a woman a drink of water and then screams at her stomach to get out of her if the baby is not fathered by her husband.
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iClockwork
11/08/18 2:20:06 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
So again, try reading the bible sometime. You may find that things you claim the bible is against (abortion) is actually proposed as a legitimate way to determine if your wife has been unfaithful or not. Don't blame me for what your shitty holy book says.

iClockwork posted...
It isnt describing an abortion its describing a potential miscarriage. Drinking the water doesn't necessarily result in the childs death like a doctor with a vacuum cleaner does.
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Twin3Turbo
11/08/18 2:22:20 PM
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Thatuser posted...
That's fine. Federal government, well, state too, has too much say in how other people choose to live as it is.

Isnt federal government saying youre allowed to have abortions less restrictive than the potential state governments that will try to ban it?
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HypnoCoosh
11/08/18 2:23:59 PM
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Worse case scenario states get to vote on it.

Whoopy doodie why people so worked up?
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