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LightningAce11
11/08/18 2:32:01 AM
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For nearly as long as FBI special counsel Robert Mueller has been investigating Russian election meddling, activists have been planning mass protests in the case that Donald Trump interferes with the probe.

Today (Nov. 7), those fears were realized when Trump asked attorney general Jeff Sessions for his resignation. Sessions, who had recused himself from the investigation, will be replaced by Matt Whitaker, a former US Attorney who has opposed the Russia investigation from the start. Whitaker is reportedly taking control of the probe from Rob Rosenstein. the deputy attorney general.

Hundreds of protests across the US, organized by MoveOn in combination with 100 other activist groups, will take place at 5pm tomorrow, local time, organizers said, to demand Acting U.S. Attorney General Matthew Whitaker recuse himself immediately from overseeing the Russia investigation.

While Rosenstein has not been fired, MoveOns website promises to respond to any actions that would prevent the investigation from being conducted freely, including replacing Rosenstein. The Special Counsel told Quartz it has no comment on situation.

Over 900 protests have been planned around the United States, and MoveOn claims that more than 400,000 people have signed up so far.


https://qz.com/1252396/protests-are-planned-if-rod-rosenstein-is-removed-from-the-russia-investigation/

Wow.
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Scottydoesntno
11/08/18 2:33:41 AM
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i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs
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josifrees
11/08/18 2:33:56 AM
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Protests are fucking weak no politician or person in power ever listens. They let them complain and send them home. Villainy continues the end
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southcoast09
11/08/18 2:34:02 AM
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Oh, the investigating is over. That is a waste of taxpayer money and he doesnt need to be investigated.
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Polycosm
11/08/18 2:39:04 AM
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Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

Perfectly valid. Trump just replaced Mueller's boss with an anti-investigation lackey who has the power to squeeze the budget, end the investigation outright, and/or possibly leak info to the President. Rosenstein is effectively off the job.
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sktgamer_13dude
11/08/18 2:39:08 AM
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Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

Joke account.

southcoast09 posted...
Oh, the investigating is over. That is a waste of taxpayer money and he doesnt need to be investigated.

If Trump has nothing to hide, he would stop obstructing and let them find nothing.
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southcoast09
11/08/18 2:43:59 AM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

Joke account.

southcoast09 posted...
Oh, the investigating is over. That is a waste of taxpayer money and he doesnt need to be investigated.

If Trump has nothing to hide, he would stop obstructing and let them find nothing.

Theyve had two years and you guys know there aint jack shit on him. Trust me: if there was, we would know it. Jeff Sessions has the authority to put that to a stop, and hes gone.
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Hulkasaurusrex
11/08/18 2:48:11 AM
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My only question is will they investigate the last jedi being targeted by russian bots.
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pegusus123456
11/08/18 2:58:20 AM
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Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

Basically, a guy named Mueller has been heading an investigation into the possibility that Trump's campaign colluded with the Russian government to influence the election. Mueller was seen as a good choice by both parties...except Donald Trump.

Jeff Sessions was the head of the department that oversees the investigation; due to him being one of the first major Trump supporters, it was a worry that he would influence the investigation. Thus, he recused himself and gave his second-in-command control of it.

This pissed Trump off and he's been off-and-on bitching about Sessions not stepping in and ending the investigation, but others convinced him it wasn't worth the political blowback from firing Sessions and putting in someone who would. So literally the day after the American midterm elections are over, he "asks" for Sessions' resignation and puts in this new guy, Whitaker. Whitaker has already gone on record stating that the investigation is a waste of time and that the Justice Department should slash the investigations budget, effectively ending it.

So the tl;dr is yes, this move is absolutely about ending the investigation into Trump's campaign.
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jumi
11/08/18 3:01:11 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

Joke account.

southcoast09 posted...
Oh, the investigating is over. That is a waste of taxpayer money and he doesnt need to be investigated.

If Trump has nothing to hide, he would stop obstructing and let them find nothing.

Theyve had two years and you guys know there aint jack shit on him. Trust me: if there was, we would know it. Jeff Sessions has the authority to put that to a stop, and hes gone.


Watergate took two years and Whitewater took five.
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Bio1590
11/08/18 3:05:04 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

Joke account.

southcoast09 posted...
Oh, the investigating is over. That is a waste of taxpayer money and he doesnt need to be investigated.

If Trump has nothing to hide, he would stop obstructing and let them find nothing.

Theyve had two years and you guys know there aint jack shit on him. Trust me: if there was, we would know it. Jeff Sessions has the authority to put that to a stop, and hes gone.

Two years? The investigation began May 17th, 2017. We're not even at 18 months yet.
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_Rinku_
11/08/18 3:07:51 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
southcoast09 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

Joke account.

southcoast09 posted...
Oh, the investigating is over. That is a waste of taxpayer money and he doesnt need to be investigated.

If Trump has nothing to hide, he would stop obstructing and let them find nothing.

Theyve had two years and you guys know there aint jack shit on him. Trust me: if there was, we would know it. Jeff Sessions has the authority to put that to a stop, and hes gone.

Two years? The investigation began May 17th, 2017. We're not even at 18 months yet.

It's a southcoast post. Literally nothing true comes from him.
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Bio1590
11/08/18 3:10:05 AM
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Yes, however it is still important to correct blatantly false information, even if it's coming from the gamefaqs poster equivalent of a monkey throwing its own shit at a window.
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Guide
11/08/18 3:11:38 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

Joke account.

southcoast09 posted...
Oh, the investigating is over. That is a waste of taxpayer money and he doesnt need to be investigated.

If Trump has nothing to hide, he would stop obstructing and let them find nothing.

Theyve had two years and you guys know there aint jack shit on him. Trust me: if there was, we would know it. Jeff Sessions has the authority to put that to a stop, and hes gone.


How many times have you been told that the investigation on Nixon took longer than that, and how many times have you ignored that fact?
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Sanga Vailo
11/08/18 3:14:37 AM
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Trump is playing 4d chess. The protest is already fragmented.
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dave_is_slick
11/08/18 3:14:41 AM
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Guide posted...
southcoast09 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

Joke account.

southcoast09 posted...
Oh, the investigating is over. That is a waste of taxpayer money and he doesnt need to be investigated.

If Trump has nothing to hide, he would stop obstructing and let them find nothing.

Theyve had two years and you guys know there aint jack shit on him. Trust me: if there was, we would know it. Jeff Sessions has the authority to put that to a stop, and hes gone.


How many times have you been told that the investigation on Nixon took longer than that, and how many times have you ignored that fact?

He's a slurper. Don't waste your energy.
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dave_is_slick
11/08/18 3:15:27 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Yes, however it is still important to correct blatantly false information, even if it's coming from the gamefaqs poster equivalent of a monkey throwing its own shit at a window.

That's called feeding the trolls and that's NOT important.
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bover_87
11/08/18 3:16:53 AM
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Not going to matter that much, because the investigation will continue under the authority of the House if Trump tries to fuck with it. Seems like he's trying to spook Mueller more than anything.
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Thompson
11/08/18 3:20:35 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Yes, however it is still important to correct blatantly false information, even if it's coming from the gamefaqs poster equivalent of a monkey throwing its own shit at a window.

That's called feeding the trolls and that's NOT important.

Feeding the trolls is stupid, yes, but so is leaving their unfactual **** uncontested. If it's left to stink, impressionable minds might become spellbound by its fragrance.
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Bio1590
11/08/18 3:24:46 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Yes, however it is still important to correct blatantly false information, even if it's coming from the gamefaqs poster equivalent of a monkey throwing its own shit at a window.

That's called feeding the trolls and that's NOT important.

Feeding the trolls is attempting to argue with them. Simply correcting their statements is not.
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MangaFan462
11/08/18 3:36:25 AM
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Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs


The latter
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TiamatLover
11/08/18 3:38:33 AM
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Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs


There's a concern that he'll shut down an investigation that's been going on for a couple of years and has produced zero meaningful results against him, pretty much just wasting taxpayer money. Everyone who's so much as hinted as having evidence against Trump, has done so to save their own ass from charges against themselves.

If Democrats really want Trump gone, their best shot at that is to put forward a viable candidate in 2020. Or just wait until 2020 in general, since Kanye West will win for sure.
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pegusus123456
11/08/18 3:41:07 AM
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MangaFan462 posted...
Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs


The latter

I mean, even if you think the investigation is a waste of time and money, how can you honestly say that this move wasn't made solely to end it?
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Crazyman93
11/08/18 3:44:47 AM
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Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

It's a valid concern, but there's also a strong possibility that the entire investigation is just "orange man bad."
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pegusus123456
11/08/18 3:48:59 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

It's a valid concern, but there's also a strong possibility that the entire investigation is just "orange man bad."

Honest question though.

Why not cooperate fully? Answer whatever questions Mueller wants to ask, turn over any (reasonable) evidence he's interested in. Ending the investigation this way reeks of corruption whereas cooperating and being cleared makes you invincible to these accusations.
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TiamatLover
11/08/18 3:51:15 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

It's a valid concern, but there's also a strong possibility that the entire investigation is just "orange man bad."

Honest question though.

Why not cooperate fully? Answer whatever questions Mueller wants to ask, turn over any (reasonable) evidence he's interested in. Ending the investigation this way reeks of corruption whereas cooperating and being cleared makes you invincible to these accusations.


There's three possible reasons:
1. He actually does have something to hide. Unlikely, given that literally nothing has turned up so far, but not entirely impossible.
2. It's part of a plan to get the opposition riled up about the investigation, only for it to conclude with nothing found and thus make a fool of them.
3. Simply Trump being Trump.

My money's on the last one.
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southcoast09
11/08/18 3:51:18 AM
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Wow, lots of meltdowns going on ITT.
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Guide
11/08/18 4:02:20 AM
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Are you pretending that you were always trolling because you're wrong again?
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southcoast09
11/08/18 4:05:08 AM
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No, I wasnt trolling and Im not wrong.
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Guide
11/08/18 4:15:57 AM
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Well, you might change your mind once you get it out of that river.
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Crazyman93
11/08/18 4:52:43 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Why not cooperate fully? Answer whatever questions Mueller wants to ask, turn over any (reasonable) evidence he's interested in. Ending the investigation this way reeks of corruption whereas cooperating and being cleared makes you invincible to these accusations.

On the one hand, you make a point, but on the other, I have no idea what his lawyer advised on this, though ending the investigation like this isn't smart, I'm fairly sure lawyers have advised against fully open cooperation.

And that said, Trump's view of the entire investigation is that it's a political witchhunt, not justice. And honestly, if my cynicism is right and the investigation's pay off is conveniently during the 2020 election year, I might feel the same way.
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Bio1590
11/08/18 9:15:20 AM
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TiamatLover posted...
that's been going on for a couple of years

Bio1590 posted...
The investigation began May 17th, 2017. We're not even at 18 months yet.


Also the investigation has more than paid for itself with what it seized from Manafort.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/08/18 10:11:40 AM
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Southcoast needs to close his account and any alts he has.
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thronedfire2
11/08/18 10:16:47 AM
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Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs


Lol whose alt is this
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Funkydog
11/08/18 10:18:12 AM
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The protests will just encourage them to go through with it to "get one over libruls" I feel at times. They aren't going to listen, care or take them seriously at least.
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glitteringfairy
11/08/18 10:18:13 AM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Southcoast needs to close his account and any alts he has.

No I don't think he should
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Antifar
11/08/18 10:19:03 AM
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Fucking liberals are getting out in the street over Jeff Sessions. Come on.
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monkmith
11/08/18 10:21:15 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Why not cooperate fully? Answer whatever questions Mueller wants to ask, turn over any (reasonable) evidence he's interested in. Ending the investigation this way reeks of corruption whereas cooperating and being cleared makes you invincible to these accusations.

On the one hand, you make a point, but on the other, I have no idea what his lawyer advised on this, though ending the investigation like this isn't smart, I'm fairly sure lawyers have advised against fully open cooperation.

And that said, Trump's view of the entire investigation is that it's a political witchhunt, not justice. And honestly, if my cynicism is right and the investigation's pay off is conveniently during the 2020 election year, I might feel the same way.

rudy literally said that trump would purger himself if he talked to mueller...

and lets bare in mind, the last time there was a credible investigation into a president it took 2+ years.
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Bio1590
11/08/18 10:22:22 AM
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Antifar posted...
Fucking liberals are getting out in the street over Jeff Sessions. Come on.

The protests were set to run if Rosenstein was fired or removed from oversight on the investigation, this isn't straight tied to Sessions.
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Mr_Biscuit
11/08/18 10:25:14 AM
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Scottydoesntno posted...
i dont follow american politics much, what is going on here? is there a valid concern that trump will interfere with an investigation or is it just more "orange man bad" from the NPCs

I dont follow politics but Im gonna call one side NPCs
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