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PowerOats
11/08/18 1:33:00 AM
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Trying to establish a movie, anime, multiple dlc campaigns, cameos, $400+ Collector edition, And a fucking car, before the main product is good is stupid

They got like FOUR gacha games going on now, but no time or money to make a decent Tactics game
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dave_is_slick
11/08/18 1:34:21 AM
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They need to go back to basics. I love Octopath Traveler.
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Questionmarktarius
11/08/18 1:40:07 AM
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PowerOats posted...
a movie

Still haven't learned from when that first movie damn near ruined the company, huh?
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Shotgunnova
11/08/18 1:57:30 AM
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Final Fantasy Tactics 2
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Banjo2553
11/08/18 2:00:01 AM
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They definitely need to downscale. These days it's not financially viable to create a huge RPG with extremely high production values.
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SH_expert44
11/08/18 2:01:17 AM
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Make Parasite Eve 3. The 3rd Birthday was just a side chapter. It needs a proper 3rd game
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fusespliff
11/08/18 2:02:42 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
PowerOats posted...
a movie

Still haven't learned from when that first movie damn near ruined the company, huh?


Probably due to the profitable second movie they did
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EternalDivide
11/08/18 2:12:20 AM
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Their teams that handle FF for instance need to all be sat down in a large conference room. Have a bout 2 hours of gameplay shown to them of FF 1-9. And then told "See. That's all. That's the battle system. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel every single game when it comes to gameplay. Focus on characters, world and story."

I mean for the love of god. That studio is in such a state of disarray and rife with crippling mismanagement. That isn't news but 33 million dollar loss attributed to DLC alone for XV of which three quarters of which never see the light of day. That is baffling on a number of levels. How? How is 33 million even allocated to DLC to begin with? Why was DLC needed to explain major elements of the base game? Let's just start there. Because they made a shit game with a shit story that's why. The incompetence, the mismanagement, the ambition with a complete lack of talent to make good on any of it.

The Octopath team needs to do XVI. Keep the visuals of Octopath, bring back the good old FF battle system and just create a damn good story, world and characters.
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Devil_Katt_II
11/08/18 2:13:12 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
I love Octopath Traveler.

I'm so glad you aren't involved in videogame dev
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joe_stalin518
11/08/18 2:17:13 AM
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Here's my biggest problem with square enix: they keep pumping out action (borderline fighting )games and want to ruin ff7 reboot when they have actually good fun action rpgs like brave fencer musashi or threads of fate .
Seems like a bad idea and business to alienate their only real fan base
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OBCD
11/08/18 2:18:16 AM
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I'm the only one who still cries himself to sleep every night that we're never gonna get 7 remake....
:'-(
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Devil_Katt_II
11/08/18 2:19:30 AM
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OBCD posted...
I'm the only one who still cries himself to sleep every night that we're never gonna get 7 remake....
:'-(

even if we do, it'll fucking suck ass
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Hulkasaurusrex
11/08/18 2:26:53 AM
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They should make a ff like dq 11 go back to basics with a ton of nostalgia.
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josifrees
11/08/18 2:30:13 AM
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I feel like they kinda sold out Final Fantasy fans. Instead of taking stupid half assed Action RPGs ideas and coming out with The bouncer 2 they put them in FF games while dragon quest gets to keep its awesome formula intact.

IMO FF was doomed as soon square and Enix merged
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Albel-Nox
11/08/18 2:33:25 AM
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EternalDivide posted...
Their teams that handle FF for instance need to all be sat down in a large conference room. Have a bout 2 hours of gameplay shown to them of FF 1-9. And then told "See. That's all. That's the battle system.

Lmao
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LordFarquad1312
11/08/18 2:36:24 AM
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PowerOats posted...
Trying to establish a movie, anime, multiple dlc campaigns, cameos, $400+ Collector edition, And a fucking car, before the main product is good is stupid

They got like FOUR gacha games going on now, but no time or money to make a decent Tactics game

And a huge event just to announce the release date, which was later delayed.

And at the very least I'm sure XIV is keeping them afloat for now.
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dave_is_slick
11/08/18 2:40:32 AM
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Devil_Katt_II posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
I love Octopath Traveler.

I'm so glad you aren't involved in videogame dev

If things go right for me, that'll change.
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Banjo2553
11/08/18 2:41:07 AM
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Devil_Katt_II posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
I love Octopath Traveler.

I'm so glad you aren't involved in videogame dev

"You like a game that I don't. What bad taste."
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 2:41:26 AM
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SH_expert44 posted...
Make Parasite Eve 3. The 3rd Birthday was just a side chapter. It needs a proper 3rd game

They can't. They lost the rights to the parasite eve novel.
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 2:42:54 AM
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OBCD posted...
I'm the only one who still cries himself to sleep every night that we're never gonna get 7 remake....
:'-(

Considering that I've heard it basically will play like kingdom hearts 3(however that turns out) and ffxv, I'm not hyped.
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Devil_Katt_II
11/08/18 3:07:05 AM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
I love Octopath Traveler.

I'm so glad you aren't involved in videogame dev

"You like a game that I don't. What bad taste."

it's shitty even by fans of the game type
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Guide
11/08/18 3:09:20 AM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
I love Octopath Traveler.

I'm so glad you aren't involved in videogame dev

"You like a game that I don't. What bad taste."


There's a difference between an opinion and an educated opinion, y'know. Someone out there might really like sugar, and nothing but sugar, and if he became a chef, I certainly wouldn't want to try his steak.
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Kaiganeer
11/08/18 3:31:11 AM
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the majority of ff games have ranged from okay to great, with the few exceptions being lightning returns, the first tactics and some offshoot games like dirge of cerberus and revenant wings, which are all hot garbage. you can't take an antiquated battle system from the snes-ps1 era and wrap a modern game around it, unless you're significantly reducing production value and making a game like i am setsuna, lost sphere or octopath, which are designed to be throwbacks and to tickle your nostalgia bone

for better or for worse, ff is the marquee jrpg franchise and instead of recycling the same shit into a new game to sate a fanbase that's unable to change, i'd want them to keep trying new things, even if they fail sometimes

fuck the movies and everything outside of games tho
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LordFarquad1312
11/08/18 4:08:17 AM
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Kaiganeer posted...
the majority of ff games have ranged from okay to great, with the few exceptions being lightning returns, the first tactics and some offshoot games like dirge of cerberus and revenant wings, which are all hot garbage.

wat
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Zack_Attackv1
11/08/18 4:26:36 AM
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Just show me HD Tifa already, goddamnit.
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Caution999
11/08/18 4:29:17 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
They need to go back to basics. I love Octopath Traveler.


Yeah !! It was cool :)
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Oldin
11/08/18 4:51:55 AM
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dino crisis x parasyte eve
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Oldin
11/08/18 4:54:12 AM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
Just show me HD Tifa already, goddamnit.

they probably gonna reduce the size in HD
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Kisai
11/08/18 4:55:22 AM
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Devil_Katt_II posted...
OBCD posted...
I'm the only one who still cries himself to sleep every night that we're never gonna get 7 remake....
:'-(

even if we do, it'll fucking suck ass

This. Have you guys seen FFXV? It'll turn out as shitty as that, both gameplay and story-wise.
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TboiGreezy
11/08/18 5:05:51 AM
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Bro Kingdom Hearts 3 is dropping January just wait on it
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 5:06:19 AM
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TboiGreezy posted...
Bro Kingdom Hearts 3 is dropping January just wait on it

It'll probably disappoint
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Devil_Katt_II
11/08/18 5:13:03 AM
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Caution999 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
They need to go back to basics. I love Octopath Traveler.


Yeah !! It was cool :)

it's official. caution has lost it
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bevan306
11/08/18 5:16:19 AM
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it would be nice if they made another FF with things like characters and narrative
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darkmaian23
11/08/18 5:54:37 AM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
Just show me HD Aeris already, goddamnit.

Fixed.
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UnfairRepresent
11/08/18 1:28:36 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
They definitely need to downscale. These days it's not financially viable to create a huge RPG with extremely high production values.

They tried that, made The Quiet Man and everyone hated it
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Questionmarktarius
11/08/18 3:12:01 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
They definitely need to downscale. These days it's not financially viable to create a huge RPG with extremely high production values.

They tried that, made The Quiet Man and everyone hated it

Looks like they went with pretentiousness instead of actual fun, again.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-11-07-the-quiet-man-review-a-juvenile-incompetent-embarrassment
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Veggeta X
11/08/18 3:12:49 PM
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Don't like it? Don't play it. It's that simple.
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