Current Events > I can't believe Nintendo caved and gave into Resetera's demands. Resetera LMAO

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CyricZ posted...

Point me towards the last time people *didn't* have to make a stink for meaningful change.

In any arena?
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P4wn4g3 posted...

mario2000 posted...

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You're describing Cyric.

Hes describing the people posting in this shithole of a topic.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

mcpwnia posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Everyone with a Twitter should post on there for me that reset Era is a shitty crazed echo chamber that doesn't represent the views of anyone else in the world. You can clean up that language. It's just dumb they would even consider this.

what a rotten fucking take. expected better from you and I'm not exactly sure why

So, what, you are in favor of crappy echo chambers spamming social media to fuck with game devs?

In what way was this fucking with them? They wanted something rightfully changed, Im sorry you dont care about it and instead spend hours in here madder than ResetEra ever was.
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Yeah Nintendo only modifies games when Resetera tells them to.

What planet do some of you live on?
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mcpwnia posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

mcpwnia posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Everyone with a Twitter should post on there for me that reset Era is a shitty crazed echo chamber that doesn't represent the views of anyone else in the world. You can clean up that language. It's just dumb they would even consider this.

what a rotten fucking take. expected better from you and I'm not exactly sure why

So, what, you are in favor of crappy echo chambers spamming social media to fuck with game devs?

In what way was this fucking with them? They wanted something rightfully changed, Im sorry you dont care about it and instead spend hours in here madder than ResetEra ever was.

They spammed Twitter with one of their echo chamber bullshit. It would be like if all the troll accounts from 261 posted bullshit on CE in an organized fashion to make a point about how CE's posting limit is lower. This is pretty much already the case, except it's not organized. It's stupid, petty, immature, and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone except site administrative staff.
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A gaming website contacted them and Nintendo almost immediately replied to say it's getting removed. That's it.

Nintendo has not only purposefully removed this reference in every previous Smash Bros game they have censored the game itself when it was re-released on GBA in 2002.

This was going to get removed as soon as NoA picked up on it. It was inevitable with or without Resetera. Nintendo has done stuff like this before and they'll do it again. The only difference this time is that people picked up on the oversight before it was removed.

For a bunch of people who like to whine about people getting outraged over stupid shit you sure like to get outraged over a bunch of stupid shit.
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Darmik posted...

Yeah Nintendo only modifies games when Resetera tells them to.

What planet do some of you live on?

This is a sidebar but w/e I'll address it. I'm pretty much universally opposed to social media being weaponized like this since it almost always has a negative outcome. And this is a pretty typical play by the likes of the people at reset Era.
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Darmik posted...

A gaming website contacted them and Nintendo almost immediately replied to say it's getting removed. That's it.

Nintendo has not only purposefully removed this reference in every previous Smash Bros game they have censored the game itself when it was re-released on GBA in 2002.

This was going to get removed as soon as NoA picked up on it. It was inevitable with or without Resetera. Nintendo has done stuff like this before and they'll do it again. The only difference this time is that people picked up on the oversight before it was removed.

For a bunch of people who like to whine about people getting outraged over stupid shit you sure like to get outraged over a bunch of stupid shit.

Tldr

Sure it's possible this was a PR flub by Nintendo but they really shouldn't be doing anything to legitimize the Resetera Incels.
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SaithSayer posted...

AngelSeven posted...

Mareen posted...

Who cares?

This. Getting worked up over an animation that doesn't affect the game in any way is even more stupid. If it makes people feel better that it's out, whatever.

It's not about the animation.

It's about people throwing tantrums until they get their way. That sort of behavior is supposed to be sorted out during early childhood.

And yet donald trump
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The people upset by them changing it actually look worse than the people that it bothered in the first place. Let's be real no one cared about the animation. This is just a way for people to cry about the SJW boogeyman

P4wn4g3 posted...

Sure it's possible this was a PR flub by Nintendo but they really shouldn't be doing anything to legitimize the Resetera Incels.

PR flub?

The far majority of people don't give a shit. They're not going to stop themselves modifying a game because some message board weirdo's have a hateboner against Resetera. Nintendo don't give a shit about message board drama.
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Apparently they care about social media drama though
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Apparently they care about social media drama though

That's not apparent. That's an assumption.

Like I've already said the removal of this was inevitable. Considering the quick response it was probably already quietly removed before the reporter contacted them about it.
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Custom Amiibo of Mr.Game & Watch with Indian tribe Feather is already up for sale on ebay! $25.00
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people cared about thing I didnt care about so I started caring the opposite has been a real weird trend
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CE is nothing if not spoiling to be contrarian.
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Darmik posted...

That's not apparent. That's an assumption.

Like I've already said the removal of this was inevitable.

This is also an assumption.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Darmik posted...

That's not apparent. That's an assumption.

Like I've already said the removal of this was inevitable.

This is also an assumption.

- 2002 GBA re-release was altered
- Move does not have the feather in Melee, Brawl, Wii U or 3DS
- Nintendo has already patched a game on Switch to alter content that is deemed offensive in some regions

Nintendo's history speaks for itself.
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Darmik posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Darmik posted...

That's not apparent. That's an assumption.

Like I've already said the removal of this was inevitable.

This is also an assumption.

- 2002 GBA re-release was altered
- Move does not have the feather in Melee, Brawl, Wii U or 3DS
- Nintendo has already patched a game on Switch to alter content that is deemed offensive in some regions

Nintendo's history speaks for itself.

Again an assumption. Maybe the taboo wore off?
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Darmik posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Darmik posted...

That's not apparent. That's an assumption.

Like I've already said the removal of this was inevitable.

This is also an assumption.

- 2002 GBA re-release was altered
- Move does not have the feather in Melee, Brawl, Wii U or 3DS
- Nintendo has already patched a game on Switch to alter content that is deemed offensive in some regions

Nintendo's history speaks for itself.

Again an assumption. Maybe the taboo wore off?

That implies that the Japanese developers knew about the game being controversial but did it anyway. Which I doubt.

Are you really going to argue that this would have been more offensive in 2002?
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Darmik posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Darmik posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Darmik posted...

That's not apparent. That's an assumption.

Like I've already said the removal of this was inevitable.

This is also an assumption.

- 2002 GBA re-release was altered
- Move does not have the feather in Melee, Brawl, Wii U or 3DS
- Nintendo has already patched a game on Switch to alter content that is deemed offensive in some regions

Nintendo's history speaks for itself.

Again an assumption. Maybe the taboo wore off?

That implies that the Japanese developers knew about the game being controversial but did it anyway. Which I doubt.

Are you really going to argue that this would have been more offensive in 2002?

Time is a factor in these things. That's common sense.

Also the Japanese catered more to angry moms clubs back then.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Time is a factor in these things. That's common sense.

Yes. Which is why this specific thing has been consistently modified since 2002. There wasn't some random period where the game was seen as offensive but isn't anymore.
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One alternate thing, they only objected to the feather....now Mr G&W's former native Indian form for that frame looks like he's actually naked. really, when the character is wholly 1 color (besides the outline), the loincloth looks a bit suggestive.
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SJWism ruins yet again.
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I see you view cultural norms as some sort of rule of law handed down by God or something stupid.

If you truly want an honest debate on something is offensive or not anymore, which you don't of course or you wouldn't be constantly trying to deflect from the poi t that Resetera is a shit hole that pushes an agenda by whatever means necessary, you should certainly factor in context. For example whether wounds have healed or not. In the case of the Indian feather, the native Americans themselves sell out their heritage these days. Their culture isn't just about red skin and chief hats and turquoise and casinos.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

I see you view cultural norms as some sort of rule of law handed down by God or something stupid.

If you truly want an honest debate on something is offensive or not anymore, which you don't of course or you wouldn't be constantly trying to deflect from the poi t that Resetera is a shit hole that pushes an agenda by whatever means necessary, you should certainly factor in context. For example whether wounds have healed or not. In the case of the Indian feather, the native Americans themselves sell out their heritage these days. Their culture isn't just about red skin and chief hats and turquoise and casinos.

I don't know what you're even talking about anymore.

It's pretty obvious that the original Game and Watch game is something Nintendo don't really want to reference anymore. A lot of old entertainment companies have stuff like that.

And yeah that game would be seen as offensive today. I'm not sure why you're blabbing about healed wounds or whatever.
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Darmik posted...

A lot of old entertainment companies have stuff like that.

Yeah. Disney has been hard at work making sure nobody remembers Pocahontas exists.
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I dont have any god damn idea what this topic is even about. Someone explain this...

Agnostic420 posted...

I dont have any god damn idea what this topic is even about. Someone explain this...

Some people got mad that they added a cosmetic feather to game and watch's head for one attack that didn't exist in any previous installations and then later removed it which made other people mad
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Darmik posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

I see you view cultural norms as some sort of rule of law handed down by God or something stupid.

If you truly want an honest debate on something is offensive or not anymore, which you don't of course or you wouldn't be constantly trying to deflect from the poi t that Resetera is a shit hole that pushes an agenda by whatever means necessary, you should certainly factor in context. For example whether wounds have healed or not. In the case of the Indian feather, the native Americans themselves sell out their heritage these days. Their culture isn't just about red skin and chief hats and turquoise and casinos.

I don't know what you're even talking about anymore.

It's pretty obvious that the original Game and Watch game is something Nintendo don't really want to reference anymore. A lot of old entertainment companies have stuff like that.

And yeah that game would be seen as offensive today. I'm not sure why you're blabbing about healed wounds or whatever.

don't even bother, he's already made up his mind
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Agnostic420 posted...

I dont have any god damn idea what this topic is even about. Someone explain this...

After the Direct somebody noticed that Mr Game and Watch had an attack that referenced an old game called Fire Attack.



In Fire Attack these enemies were caricatures of Native Americans and you played as an American with a Mallet holding off their attacks. Nintendo has re-released and modified this game for the GBA in 2002 and Mr Game and Watch has looked like this in any of the other Smash games.

Nintendo responded with this

"Nintendo has been planning to distribute an update for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate that removes the feather from the silhouette of Mr. Game & Watch," a Nintendo spokesperson said. "The original game on which this depiction of the character is based was released more than three decades ago and does not represent our company values today.

"We sincerely apologise that this change was not noticed in our marketing material and are continuing our work to make Super Smash Bros. Ultimate an experience that is both welcoming and fun for everyone."

Now we have meltdowns galore on GameFAQ's.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

or you wouldn't be constantly trying to deflect from the poi t that Resetera is a shit hole that pushes an agenda by whatever means necessary

this is a deflection in itself away from the thing being removed

P4wn4g3 posted...

the native Americans themselves sell out their heritage these days

but they dont sell their heritage alongside the idea that they were the bad guys trying to burn down the righteous colonizers, and the aesthetic here exists only as a link back to one depiction of that, rather than being celebratory or in good faith

but really more importantly this has not been a thing for over a decade and a half and nobody upset by the removal now actually cared to have it added back, they are just mad at a website who noticed
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prettyprincess posted...

but really more importantly this has not been a thing for over a decade and a half and nobody upset by the removal now actually cared to have it added back, they are just mad at a website who noticed

Yes
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The only thing ResetEra is good for is making the mods of GameFAQs seem reasonable in comparison. Truly a shithole without equal in the video game community.

I don't think they should have changed it and placated a rabble of people that just problematize every little thing. But it's also such a minor thing that I don't really care much.
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