Current Events > Is Democrat really that much better than Republican?

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Are any of these parties good?
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Republicans drive cars into peaceful protesters
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Republican is having both your legs cut off and Democrat is having both your arms cut off
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The Republican Party rejects science and puts corporate profits ahead of the future of the planet.

The Democratic Party uses annoying rhetoric and a few of them want to take your guns.

Definitey a toss up.
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Next youll be asking if Donald Trump is a racist.

Sure, lets just go with both sides are equally bad, it doesnt matter whos in power
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

The Republican Party rejects science

wrong

so your argument is already invalid

and when someone tries to say we need to fear republicans more than islamic extremist, i think i know who i'm not listening to
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I don't like either that much, but I would say the Republicans are worse.
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No
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

The Republican Party rejects science

Tbf so do the Democrats
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R and D are literally both bottom of the barrel fucking scum. Truly unfortunate. Some day I hope the country purges both disgusting parties and goes more towards following people for their actual ideals instead of bullshit party rhetoric.
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byron posted...

josifrees posted...

Republican is having both your legs cut off and Democrat is having both your arms cut off

I saw that cringey and idiotic /r/libertarian post too.

/r/libertarian is loaded with people who are just on the start of their "Libertarian to AnCap to Alt-Right to NeoFash" pipeline. Not all of them, mind you, there are some that care about shit like limited government spending and such. But plenty that frankly don't care about those issues and just call themselves Libertarian because they are pissy at the "liberals/SJWs" and blame them for all of societies problems.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

byron posted...

josifrees posted...

Republican is having both your legs cut off and Democrat is having both your arms cut off

I saw that cringey and idiotic /r/libertarian post too.

/r/libertarian is loaded with people who are just on the start of their "Libertarian to AnCap to Alt-Right to NeoFash" pipeline. Not all of them, mind you, there are some that care about shit like limited government spending and such. But plenty that frankly don't care about those issues and just call themselves Libertarian because they are pissy at the "liberals/SJWs" and blame them for all of societies problems.

so much bias in your posts

you know what everyones thinking and what everyone should do

really reminds me of something, can't put my finger on it
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AsAnIndependent posted...

so much bias in your posts

you know what everyones thinking and what everyone should do

really reminds me of something, can't put my finger on it

As an independent I thought you'd be supportive of my freedom to say my opinions on any given subject matter. Did I hit a little too close to home?
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I'd say it is less that the Democrats are that much better than it is that the Republicans are that much worse.
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Republicans are actively working to make climate change worse to line the pockets of their donors.

Democrats, if elected, will put forth a plan that acknowledges climate change as a problem but which is wholly insufficient for fixing it.

Neither is good! But one is preferable.
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Republicans are literally doing everything they can to convince you they are worse, it just doesn't seem to be working.

doesn't seem like you know what an independent is
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No, it's much worse

Not really. Both suck, just choose which one matches up to what you want in life.
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for "some" reason it's easier to prove the insanity of repubs than the other way around.

see: who is america
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iPhone_7 posted...

Next youll be asking if Donald Trump is a rapist.

fixed
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Its baffling to me that anyone could honesty think this these days

Republicans are an objectively hateful party these days
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Yes, but don't make the mistake that democrats are somehow great people. The democratic party needs fixed as well.
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No both sides are not bad.

The Democratic party is flawed and far from perfect but they're not bad.

The Trump party is fucking evil.

There's no such thing as a republican party anymore.
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No, but sadly it is a 2 party system. It used to be a bunch of parties, but the problem lies that all those parties eventually molded into 2. If a third party would also go up against Democrats and Republicans if any of the ideology of the third party coincides more with Democrats or Republicans, what you'll see happen is that the third party would start to steal away votes from whomever it's more ideologically more identical to.
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Prestoff posted...

No

Just say you don't follow politics. Why is it so important to pretend otherwise?

76 genders
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Democrats can be bad but at least you can say most want to make life better for the average citizen.

Youre average republican is more concerned with lining their own pockets and manipulating the system to keep power.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Prestoff posted...

No

Just say you don't follow politics. Why is it so important to pretend otherwise?

I do, I just don't play into the party loyalty crap.
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josifrees posted...

Republican is having both your legs cut off and Democrat is having both your arms cut off

Republican is having your genitals surgically removed and being forced to eat them after.

Democrat is like getting shot in the genitals with a nerf gun a few times.
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Modern Democrats: Ouch, I burnt my finger on this hot stove. That's going to sting for a while.
Modern National GOP: Ouch, I burnt my finger on this hot stove.... wait, is that a mushroom clo-
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Prestoff posted...

I do, I just don't play into the party loyalty crap.

I don't say the sky is blue out of color loyalty.

Again, stop pretending.

democrats can be shitty and are far from perfect but the gop is objectively awful so the choice is easy
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

I don't say the sky is blue out of color loyalty.

Technically the sky isn't blue.
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Prestoff posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Prestoff posted...

No

Just say you don't follow politics. Why is it so important to pretend otherwise?

I do, I just don't play into the party loyalty crap.

What's the difference between party loyalty and voting for the party whose policies consistently benefit the people who are struggling the most in the country?
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Prestoff posted...

Technically the sky isn't blue.

are you a parody account or

Tyranthraxus posted...

Prestoff posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Prestoff posted...

No

Just say you don't follow politics. Why is it so important to pretend otherwise?

I do, I just don't play into the party loyalty crap.

What's the difference between party loyalty and voting for the party whose policies consistently benefit the people who are struggling the most in the country?

It's down to opinion, but sometimes those policies that make it sound like it's helping people who are struggling can also be the ones that are actually hurting them.

I'm a registered democrat and tends to vote democrat majority of the time because it fits my ideology, but at times there is some stuff I can't agree with them like immigration and gun control.
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Prestoff posted...

It's down to opinion,

No, it isn't. The effects of policies are easily witnessed and measured, in places all over the world, not just America. Some things are up for opinion, such as gun control or immigration. Other things, such as climate change, do not have interpretations for opinions.
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byron posted...

josifrees posted...

Republican is having both your legs cut off and Democrat is having both your arms cut off

I saw that cringey and idiotic /r/libertarian post too.

Oh was it a thing? I had no idea. I was just trying to think of a way to say both are bad in different ways
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Prestoff posted...

It's down to opinion,

No, it isn't. The effects of policies are easily witnessed and measured, in places all over the world, not just America. Some things are up for opinion, such as gun control or immigration. Other things, such as climate change, do not have interpretations for opinions.

You said no it isn't and then proceed to say that there are things that are up to opinion.

Sometimes those policies work better in one country than another because of difference in geography, society, and culture like gun control in Britain and many parts of EU.
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Prestoff posted...

You said no it isn't and then proceed to say that there are things that are up to opinion.

Sometimes those policies work better in one country than another because of difference in geography, society, and culture like gun control in Britain and many parts of EU.

Let me put it to you this way.

You have some stuff that there exists legitimate arguments for either view, and then you have some other stuff in which 1 party is completely wrong about all of it and another party is completely right about all of it, objectively. The objective stuff far outnumbers the subjective stuff.
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Gun control isn't really debatable (although Republicans would like you to believe so). The data is pretty clear.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Prestoff posted...

You said no it isn't and then proceed to say that there are things that are up to opinion.

Sometimes those policies work better in one country than another because of difference in geography, society, and culture like gun control in Britain and many parts of EU.

Let me put it to you this way.

You have some stuff that there exists legitimate arguments for either view, and then you have some other stuff in which 1 party is completely wrong about all of it and another party is completely right about all of it, objectively. The objective stuff far outnumbers the subjective stuff.

Oh, in that case I can agree with you which is why I tend to vote Democrat the majority of the time. I think my problem lies with the Democrat party is the association with the SJW's, particularly the candidates, and how a lot of the pandering they do really puts me off. I guess that's the same way my republican friend feels about Trump and his pandering to the alt right.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Gun control isn't really debatable (although Republicans would like you to believe so). The data is pretty clear.

That's not what I meant and the data is misleading. The top 6 least are some of the wealthiest states, and the top 6 most are poor, southern states with extremely large marginalized communities of minorities that are intentionally marginalized and harassed by the active LEOs constantly. If you look at the states with high gun violence, you'll likely also find they have a much higher rate of hate crimes--I am fully pulling that out of my ass but I'm going to put my reputation on the line there if you feel like proving me wrong.

There's a lot of factors that play into gun violence, and accessibility is only one of them. Countries like Switzerland have an extremely small amount of gun violence despite really large chunk of the population owning guns--the problem is rooted in cultural issues.
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Democrats have a much better general idea for what the country SHOULD be. Democrats are just utterly incompetent. No well run political party loses to Bush twice and then to Trump. Republicans are so much better at playing the game which is a shame.
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Prestoff posted...

Oh, in that case I can agree with you which is why I tend to vote Democrat the majority of the time. I think my problem lies with the Democrat party is the association with the SJW's, particularly the candidates, and how a lot of the pandering they do really puts me off. I guess that's the same way my republican friend feels about Trump and his pandering to the alt right.

What pandering are you talking about, out of curiosity?

I mean the only people I see even caring about "SJW" complaints are private businesses who typically respond with a fake apology tweet, then both sides are mad for a while, and then both of them forget it ever happened.

I don't really ever see politicians doing stuff like that.
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AsAnIndependent posted...

King_Hellebuyck posted...

The Republican Party rejects science

wrong

so your argument is already invalid

and when someone tries to say we need to fear republicans more than islamic extremist, i think i know who i'm not listening to

When's the last time you were in direct danger from an Islamic extremist
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