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hockeybub89 11/04/18 3:35:26 PM #101:	TheOrgyPorgy posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... TheOrgyPorgy posted... hockeybub89 posted... TheOrgyPorgy posted... The Bible makes it clear that the Lord has an elect that he predestined to everlasting life. However, as we do not know who is in the elect (only he knows), we still have an obligation to spread the Word, as specified by the Great Commission. Predestination completely destroys the concept of free will and makes everything pointless. Everything you think, say and do is out of your control. The point of our existence is to give him honor and praise. Why does he want it, need it or care about it? Who is he trying to impress? https://www.gotquestions.org/God-demand-worship.html Why does he demand things from pre-programmed NPCs? They're doing exactly what he wants? The other Gods must bully him. That's why spends his free time bossing around his creation. He needs that sense of control that he can't get in real life. Wow. That means everything I'm saying is actually him venting in private. Even this. Stop talking to yourself, God! --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911802170] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote>The Bible makes it clear that the Lord has an elect that he predestined to everlasting life. However, as we do not know who is in the elect (only he knows), we still have an obligation to spread the Word, as specified by the Great Commission.</quote> Predestination completely destroys the concept of free will and makes everything pointless. Everything you think, say and do is out of your control. </quote> The point of our existence is to give him honor and praise.</quote> Why does he want it, need it or care about it? Who is he trying to impress?</quote> https://www.gotquestions.org/God-demand-worship.html</quote> Why does he demand things from pre-programmed NPCs? They're doing exactly what he wants? The other Gods must bully him. That's why spends his free time bossing around his creation. He needs that sense of control that he can't get in real life. Wow. That means everything I'm saying is actually him venting in private. Even this. Stop talking to yourself, God!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 11/04/18 3:39:25 PM #102:	TheOrgyPorgy posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... TheOrgyPorgy posted... hockeybub89 posted... TheOrgyPorgy posted... The Bible makes it clear that the Lord has an elect that he predestined to everlasting life. However, as we do not know who is in the elect (only he knows), we still have an obligation to spread the Word, as specified by the Great Commission. Predestination completely destroys the concept of free will and makes everything pointless. Everything you think, say and do is out of your control. The point of our existence is to give him honor and praise. Why does he want it, need it or care about it? Who is he trying to impress? https://www.gotquestions.org/God-demand-worship.html No. You answer. I'm not clicking a propaganda link. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:911802418] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote>The Bible makes it clear that the Lord has an elect that he predestined to everlasting life. However, as we do not know who is in the elect (only he knows), we still have an obligation to spread the Word, as specified by the Great Commission.</quote> Predestination completely destroys the concept of free will and makes everything pointless. Everything you think, say and do is out of your control. </quote> The point of our existence is to give him honor and praise.</quote> Why does he want it, need it or care about it? Who is he trying to impress?</quote> https://www.gotquestions.org/God-demand-worship.html</quote> No. You answer. I'm not clicking a propaganda link.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 11/04/18 3:55:33 PM #103:	? --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:911803334] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote>?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 11/04/18 4:01:00 PM #104:	TheOrgyPorgy posted... Mareen posted... No. Find it silly. The consequences of finding it silly are eternal. How do you know you've got the right religion? There are others that tell you you'll suffer damnation for not believing them. Even other sects of your own religion. You're not exactly in a much better position than I am. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:911803618] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mareen posted...</cite> <quote>No. Find it silly.</quote> The consequences of finding it silly are eternal.</quote> How do you know you've got the right religion? There are others that tell you you'll suffer damnation for not believing them. Even other sects of your own religion. You're not exactly in a much better position than I am.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 11/04/18 4:35:02 PM #105:	Because Christianity is the logical conclusion of Judaic prophecy. --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:911805397] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote>Because Christianity is the logical conclusion of Judaic prophecy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 11/04/18 4:52:03 PM #106:	TheOrgyPorgy posted... Because Christianity is the logical conclusion of Judaic prophecy. Who says the Judaic prophecy was legitimate? <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:911806277] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote>Because Christianity is the logical conclusion of Judaic prophecy.</quote> Who says the Judaic prophecy was legitimate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 11/04/18 5:05:38 PM #107:	One of the strongest arguments for the Bible is the hundreds of fulfilled prophecies. Detailed predictions about people, nations, and events were foretold centuries before they occurred, and their fulfillments have been historically verified. In about 700 BC Isaiah prophesied that Babylon would conquer Judah (Isaiah 39:5-6). Isaiahs prediction came true 100 years later. Isaiah also predicted that Babylon would be conquered by another nation (Isaiah 21:9). This prophecy was fulfilled in 539 BC. Then Isaiah had an even more amazing prediction. The prophet identified by name the king who would allow Judah to rebuild Jerusalem (Isaiah 44:28). Cyrus, king of Persia, did conquer Babylon and decreed that the Israelites could return to their homeland. Isaiah predicted this 150 years earlier! At least 61 prophecies concerning the Messiah were fulfilled by Jesus. A skeptic might argue, Jesus purposefully fulfilled those predictions to appear to be the Messiah. Yet many prophecies about the Messiah were outside Jesus control: the place of His birth (Micah 5:2), the time of His birth (Daniel 9:25), the manner of His birth (Isaiah 7:14), the manner of His death (Psalm 22:16), and His burial in a rich mans tomb (Isaiah 53:9). The chances of one man fulfilling just eight of those specific prophecies is 1 in 1017. http://www.firstdallas.org/icampus/blog/fulfilled-prophecy-and-the-bibles-unity/ --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:911807068] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote>One of the strongest arguments for the Bible is the hundreds of fulfilled prophecies. Detailed predictions about people, nations, and events were foretold centuries before they occurred, and their fulfillments have been historically verified. In about 700 BC Isaiah prophesied that Babylon would conquer Judah (Isaiah 39:5-6). Isaiahs prediction came true 100 years later. Isaiah also predicted that Babylon would be conquered by another nation (Isaiah 21:9). This prophecy was fulfilled in 539 BC. Then Isaiah had an even more amazing prediction. The prophet identified by name the king who would allow Judah to rebuild Jerusalem (Isaiah 44:28). Cyrus, king of Persia, did conquer Babylon and decreed that the Israelites could return to their homeland. Isaiah predicted this 150 years earlier! At least 61 prophecies concerning the Messiah were fulfilled by Jesus. A skeptic might argue, Jesus purposefully fulfilled those predictions to appear to be the Messiah. Yet many prophecies about the Messiah were outside Jesus control: the place of His birth (Micah 5:2), the time of His birth (Daniel 9:25), the manner of His birth (Isaiah 7:14), the manner of His death (Psalm 22:16), and His burial in a rich mans tomb (Isaiah 53:9). The chances of one man fulfilling just eight of those specific prophecies is 1 in 1017. http://www.firstdallas.org/icampus/blog/fulfilled-prophecy-and-the-bibles-unity/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 11/04/18 5:20:22 PM #108:	TheOrgyPorgy posted... One of the strongest arguments for the Bible is the hundreds of fulfilled prophecies. Detailed predictions about people, nations, and events were foretold centuries before they occurred, and their fulfillments have been historically verified. In about 700 BC Isaiah prophesied that Babylon would conquer Judah (Isaiah 39:5-6). Isaiahs prediction came true 100 years later. Isaiah also predicted that Babylon would be conquered by another nation (Isaiah 21:9). This prophecy was fulfilled in 539 BC. Then Isaiah had an even more amazing prediction. The prophet identified by name the king who would allow Judah to rebuild Jerusalem (Isaiah 44:28). Cyrus, king of Persia, did conquer Babylon and decreed that the Israelites could return to their homeland. Isaiah predicted this 150 years earlier! At least 61 prophecies concerning the Messiah were fulfilled by Jesus. A skeptic might argue, Jesus purposefully fulfilled those predictions to appear to be the Messiah. Yet many prophecies about the Messiah were outside Jesus control: the place of His birth (Micah 5:2), the time of His birth (Daniel 9:25), the manner of His birth (Isaiah 7:14), the manner of His death (Psalm 22:16), and His burial in a rich mans tomb (Isaiah 53:9). The chances of one man fulfilling just eight of those specific prophecies is 1 in 1017. http://www.firstdallas.org/icampus/blog/fulfilled-prophecy-and-the-bibles-unity/ That is ridiculous. Do you understand that lying is a thing? Also, self-fulfilling prophecies and confirmation bias. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:911808015] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote>One of the strongest arguments for the Bible is the hundreds of fulfilled prophecies. Detailed predictions about people, nations, and events were foretold centuries before they occurred, and their fulfillments have been historically verified. In about 700 BC Isaiah prophesied that Babylon would conquer Judah (Isaiah 39:5-6). Isaiahs prediction came true 100 years later. Isaiah also predicted that Babylon would be conquered by another nation (Isaiah 21:9). This prophecy was fulfilled in 539 BC. Then Isaiah had an even more amazing prediction. The prophet identified by name the king who would allow Judah to rebuild Jerusalem (Isaiah 44:28). Cyrus, king of Persia, did conquer Babylon and decreed that the Israelites could return to their homeland. Isaiah predicted this 150 years earlier! At least 61 prophecies concerning the Messiah were fulfilled by Jesus. A skeptic might argue, Jesus purposefully fulfilled those predictions to appear to be the Messiah. Yet many prophecies about the Messiah were outside Jesus control: the place of His birth (Micah 5:2), the time of His birth (Daniel 9:25), the manner of His birth (Isaiah 7:14), the manner of His death (Psalm 22:16), and His burial in a rich mans tomb (Isaiah 53:9). The chances of one man fulfilling just eight of those specific prophecies is 1 in 1017. http://www.firstdallas.org/icampus/blog/fulfilled-prophecy-and-the-bibles-unity/</quote> That is ridiculous. Do you understand that lying is a thing? Also, self-fulfilling prophecies and confirmation bias.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 11/04/18 5:35:54 PM #109:	If you read the Book of Daniel you will find a variety of prophecies that came true, including the timing of the destruction of the Jewish temple. --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:911808909] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote>If you read the Book of Daniel you will find a variety of prophecies that came true, including the timing of the destruction of the Jewish temple.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 11/04/18 5:38:51 PM #110:	TheOrgyPorgy posted... If you read the Book of Daniel you will find a variety of prophecies that came true, including the timing of the destruction of the Jewish temple. How do you know they happened? How do you know the prophecies were real? How do you know the prophecies were made when they were said to have been made? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:911809087] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote>If you read the Book of Daniel you will find a variety of prophecies that came true, including the timing of the destruction of the Jewish temple.</quote> How do you know they happened? How do you know the prophecies were real? How do you know the prophecies were made when they were said to have been made?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpsycho 11/04/18 5:53:08 PM #111:	Jesus Christ? Isn't that a swear word? --- https://imgur.com/ZrnUI3A ~drawn by United_World <cite>hyperpsycho posted [p:911809908] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote>Jesus Christ? Isn't that a swear word?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaithSayer 11/04/18 6:18:33 PM #112:	hyperpsycho posted... Jesus Christ? Isn't that a swear word? That's how you know it's of another world. It's the best thing apparently if you say it normally, but a horrible trespass if you shout it or say it in a mocking tone. lol <cite>SaithSayer posted [p:911811401] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpsycho posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus Christ? Isn't that a swear word?</quote> That's how you know it's of another world. It's the best thing apparently if you say it normally, but a horrible trespass if you shout it or say it in a mocking tone. lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 11/04/18 7:45:21 PM #113:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... TheOrgyPorgy posted... If you read the Book of Daniel you will find a variety of prophecies that came true, including the timing of the destruction of the Jewish temple. How do you know they happened? How do you know the prophecies were real? How do you know the prophecies were made when they were said to have been made? Answers to prayer are especially helpful. --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:911816427] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote>If you read the Book of Daniel you will find a variety of prophecies that came true, including the timing of the destruction of the Jewish temple.</quote> How do you know they happened? How do you know the prophecies were real? How do you know the prophecies were made when they were said to have been made?</quote> Answers to prayer are especially helpful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 11/04/18 9:54:47 PM #114:	This is an insightful sermon, as well: https://www.blueletterbible.org/comm/edwards_jonathan/sermons/sinners.cfm --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:911823636] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote>This is an insightful sermon, as well: https://www.blueletterbible.org/comm/edwards_jonathan/sermons/sinners.cfm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CornBarn 11/04/18 9:55:47 PM #115:	I'm waiting to see how next year's corn crop turns out <cite>CornBarn posted [p:911823683] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote>I'm waiting to see how next year's corn crop turns out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 11/04/18 10:30:46 PM #116:	TheOrgyPorgy posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... TheOrgyPorgy posted... If you read the Book of Daniel you will find a variety of prophecies that came true, including the timing of the destruction of the Jewish temple. How do you know they happened? How do you know the prophecies were real? How do you know the prophecies were made when they were said to have been made? Answers to prayer are especially helpful. No. Fake news. Answer question for real. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:911825683] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote>If you read the Book of Daniel you will find a variety of prophecies that came true, including the timing of the destruction of the Jewish temple.</quote> How do you know they happened? How do you know the prophecies were real? How do you know the prophecies were made when they were said to have been made?</quote> Answers to prayer are especially helpful.</quote> No. Fake news. Answer question for real.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 11/05/18 9:26:33 AM #117:	Isaiah 64:6 (https://biblehub.com/isaiah/64-6.htm) All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. Isn't it amazing how we doubt his Word (even the best of us), when our greatest deeds are nothing more than unclean garments in his eyes? By sinning even once, we are iniquitous, and all who commit even a single misdeed are morally repugnant in the eyes of a perfect God. --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:911844149] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote>Isaiah 64:6 (https://biblehub.com/isaiah/64-6.htm) All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. Isn't it amazing how we doubt his Word (even the best of us), when our greatest deeds are nothing more than unclean garments in his eyes? By sinning even once, we are iniquitous, and all who commit even a single misdeed are morally repugnant in the eyes of a perfect God.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 11/05/18 5:56:06 PM #118:	TheOrgyPorgy posted... Isaiah 64:6 (https://biblehub.com/isaiah/64-6.htm) All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. Isn't it amazing how we doubt his Word (even the best of us), when our greatest deeds are nothing more than unclean garments in his eyes? By sinning even once, we are iniquitous, and all who commit even a single misdeed are morally repugnant in the eyes of a perfect God. Your argument is a logical fallacy, specifically circular reasoning; the Bible predicted future events and this is proven because the Bible says so, is not a valid argument. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:911872027] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted...</cite> <quote>Isaiah 64:6 (https://biblehub.com/isaiah/64-6.htm) All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. Isn't it amazing how we doubt his Word (even the best of us), when our greatest deeds are nothing more than unclean garments in his eyes? By sinning even once, we are iniquitous, and all who commit even a single misdeed are morally repugnant in the eyes of a perfect God.</quote> Your argument is a logical fallacy, specifically circular reasoning; the Bible predicted future events and this is proven because the Bible says so, is not a valid argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkmaian23 11/05/18 7:13:35 PM #119:	Dash_Harber posted... Your argument is a logical fallacy, specifically circular reasoning; the Bible predicted future events and this is proven because the Bible says so, is not a valid argument. I'd also like to add that some things in the Bible that claim to be historical--like the Book of Exodus--appear to be complete fantasy and are not in any way supported by actual history. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:911876889] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Your argument is a logical fallacy, specifically circular reasoning; the Bible predicted future events and this is proven because the Bible says so, is not a valid argument.</quote> I'd also like to add that some things in the Bible that claim to be historical--like the Book of Exodus--appear to be complete fantasy and are not in any way supported by actual history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 11/05/18 11:14:38 PM #120:	darkmaian23 posted... Dash_Harber posted... Your argument is a logical fallacy, specifically circular reasoning; the Bible predicted future events and this is proven because the Bible says so, is not a valid argument. I'd also like to add that some things in the Bible that claim to be historical--like the Book of Exodus--appear to be complete fantasy and are not in any way supported by actual history. In addition Noah's Ark and the Tower of Babel could not have happened the way they were described. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:911891282] in Do you acc... [t:77157685]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkmaian23 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Your argument is a logical fallacy, specifically circular reasoning; the Bible predicted future events and this is proven because the Bible says so, is not a valid argument.</quote> I'd also like to add that some things in the Bible that claim to be historical--like the Book of Exodus--appear to be complete fantasy and are not in any way supported by actual history.</quote> In addition Noah's Ark and the Tower of Babel could not have happened the way they were described.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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