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Veggeta X
10/29/18 8:40:58 AM
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Dunno how he found out, I think he subscribed to a Pro LinkedIn account and lurked and saw that I have been adding recruiters to my friends list and also I updated my resume.

Anyway, he confronted me about it and he was very upset and asked me why I'm doing this. Plainly told him I need to get paid more and I spoke with him about this plenty of time. Asked me how much I think I should be getting paid and I gave him a number but he says bullshit I get paid a fair amount and my current salary fits the regional standard. Dunno where he's getting his info but I told him sure if you go by the very exclusive job duties of my job title then yes I'm paid fairly but the fact is I do a shit ton more than what my job description says.

Told me he can't help me, if I wanted a raise I need to go talk to the CEO. I told him his job is to fight for more money for me, it's not my job to do that. They can lay me off now. I wanna be on unemployment and play video games for months.
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hotcegaI
10/29/18 8:45:29 AM
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You won't get more than 10% of a salary increase in most jobs without a very good promotion
he's telling you to talk to the CEO because he doesn't intend to himself

good luck on the job hunt
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1337toothbrush
10/29/18 8:45:42 AM
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 8:46:48 AM
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tote_all posted...
People believe this.

Imagine going 3 levels ahead of your direct boss and asking the CEO for a raise. What a shit company. I'm done with this place. My boss knows all my responsibilities, my duties and the shit I do for this company too.
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hotcegaI
10/29/18 8:47:26 AM
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what do you do tc
like your job what's it meant to be vs what do you actually do
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/29/18 8:48:06 AM
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Send dick pics to CEO
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 8:49:28 AM
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hotcegaI posted...
what do you do tc
like your job what's it meant to be vs what do you actually do

I'm a SYS-Admin. My job duties is strictly server administration, securities, make sure servers are working all the time, up to date, proper resources allocated... things like that. But I manage the shipping department, I do basic Help Desk, I do regular production work, basically a jack of all trades for the company.
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 8:50:23 AM
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I mean I make good money but I see other SYS-Admins making close to 6 figures.
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Esrac
10/29/18 8:52:19 AM
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Tell him you're worth more than just the regional standard.
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hotcegaI
10/29/18 8:52:50 AM
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Veggeta X posted...

I'm a SYS-Admin. My job duties is strictly server administration, securities, make sure servers are working all the time, up to date, proper resources allocated... things like that. But I manage the shipping department, I do basic Help Desk, I do regular production work, basically a jack of all trades for the company.

lol if you're a sysadmin unless you're completely terrible at interviews or else in a really rural area just hit up recruiters and get a new job of at least an extra 30% increase

companies will always fuck over IT if they can
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Rika_Furude
10/29/18 8:55:52 AM
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companies would revert to fax machines and doing bookkeeping in literal books if they were allowed to. the company doesnt want to know nor care about IT and the CEO probably can't tell the difference between a computer and the thing on the desk the pictures show up on. if your boss wont back you up, and you think you have a good chance of gaining employment elsewhere, might be a good idea to start looking now
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stone
10/29/18 8:58:39 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
but the fact is I do a shit ton more than what my job description says.

Time to stop doing all those extra tasks, then.
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voldothegr8
10/29/18 9:01:09 AM
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Doesn't Linkedin tell you when people click your profile? Or does pro let them bypass that?
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 9:10:10 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Doesn't Linkedin tell you when people click your profile? Or does pro let them bypass that?

Unsure. Never subscribed. Would like to know myself. Anyone here have Gold version of LinkedIn?
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ScazarMeltex
10/29/18 9:12:02 AM
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This is the problem with American workers and why productivity rates are through the roof while worker compensation has stayed the same.
Stop doing things outside your job description's responsibility. You aren't getting paid to do all that other stuff. If they want that stuff done they can hire aomeone else or they can you for that work in addition to your regular responsibilities. Letting you do it for free is exploitation, and you doing it willingly is allowing yourself to be exploited. STOP DOING WORK YOU AREN'T BEING PAID TO DO.
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hotcegaI
10/29/18 9:12:48 AM
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yeah you probably have your profile friends sett to public change that
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 9:18:30 AM
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What's funny is that me and boss get along just fine. Been working here for over 6 years. I guess you could say he's my friend. It's real upsetting to know he's acting like this at this point and won't help me get a raise. This just shows you people at work will easily turn on you whenever it benefits them. Never be too loyal to a company that won't invest in you.
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 9:20:36 AM
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At first all those extra duties seem like a huge learning experience. Hell yeah I would love to manage the shipping department. I hold the UPS, FedEx, USPS, Staples and Amazon account. Enjoyed it but after a while it's like... are they gonna pay me more for all this?
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hotcegaI
10/29/18 9:24:38 AM
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they're juse using you to avoid paying and training someone else

so get the fuck on with the linkedin recruiting eh?
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Squall28
10/29/18 9:25:17 AM
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If it's a smaller company, you need to wear more hats. If the CEO is just some guy you can talk to, I imagine it is a small company.
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Touch
10/29/18 9:27:33 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Tell him to eat your ass.

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pikachupwnage
10/29/18 9:28:41 AM
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tote_all posted...
Veggeta X posted...
I told him his job is to fight for more money for me, it's not my job to do that.


People believe this.


It's not entirely wrong.

A manager needs to keep his best workers. Sometimes that means getting them raises.
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CuteWhiteChick
10/29/18 9:38:56 AM
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did! Get a job sir!
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 9:44:06 AM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
You made this exact same topic a couple months ago. Now you're acting like that never happened. And a couple months before that topic you made a topic about how you broke down crying because you got offered a job making so much more. You need to do a better job of keeping your stories straight.

You have no proof of this.
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hotcegaI
10/29/18 9:48:26 AM
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tc stop arguing with jmo/ur/etc
same user
same tactics
same trolling
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 9:52:52 AM
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Anyone here also a SYS-Admin? TBF I only have an Associates degree so maybe that's stopping them from respecting me?
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Heineken14
10/29/18 10:01:35 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Anyone here also a SYS-Admin? TBF I only have an Associates degree so maybe that's stopping them from respecting me?


Was, but now do IT for an oil refinery. The simplicity and lack of any sort of after hours responsibility is super nice, but.... the simplicity of it is a real drag. Been casually looking elsewhere.
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 10:03:19 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
the simplicity of it is a real drag

I love it. If everything is working with no issues then you are doing a good job.
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voldothegr8
10/29/18 10:04:09 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Doesn't Linkedin tell you when people click your profile? Or does pro let them bypass that?

Unsure. Never subscribed. Would like to know myself. Anyone here have Gold version of LinkedIn?

So I just did some digging and Linkedin does tell you the last 5 people who viewed your account with the normal non paid profile. There is a setting to make that show up as anonymous though, so it only says "anonymous user viewed your account"
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Heineken14
10/29/18 10:05:37 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Heineken14 posted...
the simplicity of it is a real drag

I love it. If everything is working with no issues then you are doing a good job.


Oh for sure, back when I was a server/sys admin and finally got time to start doing a lot of proactive maintenance we saw our ticket count start to drop because of it.... then I got laid off. *jazz hands*
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 10:06:50 AM
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Wish my company would lay me off so I can live off unemployment for a while and casually look for a job. Might move to another state too for a better opportunity.
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BlazinBlue88
10/29/18 10:18:02 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Doesn't Linkedin tell you when people click your profile? Or does pro let them bypass that?

Unsure. Never subscribed. Would like to know myself. Anyone here have Gold version of LinkedIn?

There is a setting in your account where it won't inform people that you're looking at their profile. You do not need the Pro version for this. I just can't remember exactly where in your account settings it is.

Veggeta X posted...
Been working here for over 6 years.

This is your main fuck up. If you're not job hopping every 2 years or so in IT then you're losing out on money. They will never pay you more money. Going to a new job will generally net you a 30% pay bump plus the experience of seeing things done differently with different software.

Also it allows you to dump the whole generalist BS. It's great the first few years of your career but I got sick of it. Went from the same sys admin do everything stuff that you did to strictly managing VMware and storage array. No more being a backup for the helpdesk. Got to become more specialized with less responsibility and paid $25k more.
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HagenEx
10/29/18 10:21:22 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
I do a shit ton more than what my job description says..


There's your problem.

Stop tryharding and all will be solved :D
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TomNook20
10/29/18 11:11:13 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
tote_all posted...
Veggeta X posted...
I told him his job is to fight for more money for me, it's not my job to do that.


People believe this.


It's not entirely wrong.

A manager needs to keep his best workers. Sometimes that means getting them raises.

Yeah it's not like low level managers can just hand out raises as they wish.
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Veggeta X
10/29/18 11:14:32 AM
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tote_all posted...
Why are we assuming TC is, in fact, one of his best workers?

There's only my boss, me and another guy which is the Help Desk.
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Banjo2553
10/31/18 2:10:10 AM
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stone posted...
Veggeta X posted...
but the fact is I do a shit ton more than what my job description says.

Time to stop doing all those extra tasks, then.

Then they'll fire you.
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Knowledge_King
10/31/18 8:51:35 AM
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Welcome to being a Sys Admin. Or IT in general, if you're competent and lack a backbone.
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