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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/18 1:43:32 AM
#51:


Dash_Harber posted...
Kaiganeer posted...
yeah it's a bad game


I feel like there are two hype trains right now; either it's the greatest game in all of human history, or it is a complete trainwreck that a conspiracy is selling us through bought reviews and advertising budgets.

The truth is probably somewhere in between.

Sounds to me like an incredibly crafted and detailed world packed full of adventure, but unfortunately weighed down by some gameplay mechanics that are totally up their own ass.

If a PC version comes and modders can get a hold on this stuff, Im in
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Dash_Harber
10/29/18 1:45:18 AM
#52:


Kaiganeer posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
or it is a complete trainwreck that a conspiracy is selling us through bought reviews and advertising budgets.

nah, they knocked it out of the park with the characters, voice acting and atmosphere like they usually do, but the part where it's an interactive experience sucks ass because they focused on stupid minutiae and sim-y gameplay mechanics instead of making it fun to play

it's a bad game because it's zero fun to play


I could see how some might enjoy that, but it's definitely not for me, personally. I really hate how focused the game industry is nowadays on creating a cinematic experience. A lot of these games feel like B-movie scripts that run through a few action set pieces and stock characters and just railroad you into the experience they want you to have. I miss when games were all about options and exploration and secrets.
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ThePeeTape
10/29/18 1:46:34 AM
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im reading the negative reviews on metacritic and either none of them speak english, they're bots or they're all written by people with learning disabilities.
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boxington
10/29/18 1:48:45 AM
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I disagree that the game is unfun to play; IMO, the gameplay has more weight to it

I can see how people might not like the survival elements, for example, but from my experience, they don't hamper the gameplay. they add/diminish from your stats (except when you're close to death)
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ledbowman
10/29/18 1:50:02 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
ledbowman posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Kaiganeer posted...
yeah it's a bad game


I feel like there are two hype trains right now; either it's the greatest game in all of human history, or it is a complete trainwreck that a conspiracy is selling us through bought reviews and advertising budgets.

The truth is probably somewhere in between.

They whiners are more hyperbolic than anyone else.


Like I said, it's probably in the middle. Realistically, the people praising it can also be ridiculous. People who haven't even played it are rating it 10/10 on principle. Horse balls and rusty guns were literally top headlines in game review circuits. It's not like either side is being reasonable.

Giving this a very high score in a review is reasonable. Saying the literally one second it takes to loot a body is "so slow" is not.
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ThePeeTape
10/29/18 1:50:09 AM
#57:


Dash_Harber posted...
I miss when games were all about options and exploration and secrets.


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edededdy
10/29/18 1:51:44 AM
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oh but you guys love realism right? right? this is whats you all wanted right?
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Dash_Harber
10/29/18 1:52:58 AM
#59:


ledbowman posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ledbowman posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Kaiganeer posted...
yeah it's a bad game


I feel like there are two hype trains right now; either it's the greatest game in all of human history, or it is a complete trainwreck that a conspiracy is selling us through bought reviews and advertising budgets.

The truth is probably somewhere in between.

They whiners are more hyperbolic than anyone else.


Like I said, it's probably in the middle. Realistically, the people praising it can also be ridiculous. People who haven't even played it are rating it 10/10 on principle. Horse balls and rusty guns were literally top headlines in game review circuits. It's not like either side is being reasonable.

Giving this a very high score in a review is reasonable. Saying the literally one second it takes to loot a body is "so slow" is not.


I mean, I never said that was the only complaint I read. What about the slow pacing? The sim elements? I feel like you are cherry picking complaints to try and paint any criticism as fringe craziness, but realistically, both sides probably have a few good points.

Personally, I think it will probably be alright, but I'll wait for a sale because narrative heavy, linear games are not my cup of tea.
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ThePeeTape
10/29/18 1:54:23 AM
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what sim elements? the game goes at the pace you want it to go
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ledbowman
10/29/18 1:54:41 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
What about the slow pacing? The sim elements?

Overblown and overblown. I was using looting as an example.
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Dash_Harber
10/29/18 1:56:54 AM
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ThePeeTape posted...
what sim elements? the game goes at the pace you want it to go

ledbowman posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
What about the slow pacing? The sim elements?

Overblown and overblown. I was using looting as an example.


Jesus Christ, I'm just pointing out that it's one of the complaints. I haven't played the game, so I can't comment, but acting like this game is the greatest thing ever created and that every single gamer would enjoy it no matter what is clearly just as crazy as saying it's a complete wreck that is full of bugs and is just being pushed by corporate shills.
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ThePeeTape
10/29/18 1:58:39 AM
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well ive put 20 hours into it and im not sure what people could mean by sim elements. you dont have to do anything in the game.
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Dash_Harber
10/29/18 2:00:19 AM
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ThePeeTape posted...
well ive put 20 hours into it and im not sure what people could mean by sim elements. you dont have to do anything in the game.


Yeah, and that's fine, but it's like buying a car with a ton of options you don't want. Sure, you don't have to use them, but why not just buy the car you want in the first place?

I feel like I should clarify, though, that I'm not saying it's bad (or good!), just that people acting like it's the second coming and people acting like it is the anti-Christ sound equally unreasonable.
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ledbowman
10/29/18 2:00:27 AM
#65:


Dash_Harber posted...
this game is the greatest thing ever created and that every single gamer would enjoy it

Never said this. Haven't seen much of it.
Dash_Harber posted...
it's a complete wreck that is full of bugs and is just being pushed by corporate shills.

Seen a lot of this.
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Dash_Harber
10/29/18 2:01:54 AM
#66:


ledbowman posted...
Never said this. Haven't seen much of it.


I didn't say you did, but just browse Metacritic and it should be pretty easy to find some comments like that. Come on, we don't have to be antagonistic about it. The game has a hype train behind it, you and me both know that.
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ThePeeTape
10/29/18 2:01:58 AM
#67:


a car isnt a video game. you dont get to choose what comes with a game
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Dash_Harber
10/29/18 2:03:33 AM
#68:


ThePeeTape posted...
a car isnt a video game. you dont get to choose what comes with a game


Come on, man, I'm saying why would you buy a game with a bunch of activities you don't want to play. Like, if you hate sidequests and grinding, would you buy a JRPG? Probably not, even though you can probably ignore both those things if you wanted to play the game anyway. I really have a hard time believing you actually thought I was arguing that a car is a video game.
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ThePeeTape
10/29/18 2:05:19 AM
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if they arent comparable, dont compare them

if you buy a modern rockstar game dont be surprise there's an overwhelming about of shit to do. the main difference is instead of driving from place to place like in GTAV, you need to ride a horse. it's slower.
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ledbowman
10/29/18 2:06:53 AM
#70:


Dash_Harber posted...
The game has a hype train behind it, you and me both know that.

Warranted because it's really good.
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Dash_Harber
10/29/18 2:06:53 AM
#71:


ThePeeTape posted...
if they arent comparable, dont compare them


The situation is comparable. Do you really not understand what I'm saying?

Adding features to a product that a consumer doesn't want may mean they choose a different product even if they have the opportunity to ignore the added features.
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Dash_Harber
10/29/18 2:07:58 AM
#72:


ledbowman posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
The game has a hype train behind it, you and me both know that.

Warranted because it's really good.


Yes, but people are saying it's the greatest game ever created, which seems like it's probably just as much an exaggeration as the naysayers.
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boxington
10/29/18 2:08:56 AM
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^ tbf, there can be a lot of people who enjoy those features, as there are a lot who don't

the best balance is to give the features some effect, but unintrusive
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ledbowman
10/29/18 2:10:50 AM
#74:


Dash_Harber posted...
ledbowman posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
The game has a hype train behind it, you and me both know that.

Warranted because it's really good.


Yes, but people are saying it's the greatest game ever created, which seems like it's probably just as much an exaggeration as the naysayers.

Not as much.
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ThePeeTape
10/29/18 2:11:11 AM
#75:


boxington posted...
^ tbf, there can be a lot of people who enjoy those features, as there are a lot who don't

the best balance is to give the features some effect, but unintrusive

which is what the game does. very little of all the side stuff is necessary. a friend of mine sped through the story in like 40 hours
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Dash_Harber
10/29/18 2:25:48 AM
#76:


boxington posted...
^ tbf, there can be a lot of people who enjoy those features, as there are a lot who don't

the best balance is to give the features some effect, but unintrusive


I 100% agree. I'm sorry if I made it seem otherwise.

ledbowman posted...
Not as much.


I mean, anecdotal, but I guess we've just read different reviews, then.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/18 9:18:05 AM
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No one overhypes the game, how dare you?! they say as they debate Dash for two hours for saying the game has both crazy defenders and crazy detractors
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Mist_Turnips
10/29/18 9:20:12 AM
#78:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
No one overhypes the game, how dare you?! they say as they debate Dash for two hours for saying the game has both crazy defenders and crazy detractors

Yeah, it's like talking to a wall lol.
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eston
10/29/18 9:29:23 AM
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I can definitely see why people wouldn't like it, and I probably would not recommend it to someone who just wants to play an action game. It fits my play style perfectly though. I'm the type of guy who walks around the streets at a leisurely pace in Assassin's Creed games instead of parkouring across rooftops. I'm loving RDR2 so far, and all the little minutiae adds a lot for me
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TheOlJollyRoger
10/29/18 9:37:24 AM
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Just find the witness and silence them der
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voldothegr8
10/29/18 9:47:14 AM
#81:


TheOlJollyRoger posted...
Just find the witness and silence them der

There's no silencing the physic bounty hunters and cops. For a game based on "realism" that sure is an unrealistic mechanic.
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Turtlebread
10/29/18 10:01:20 AM
#82:


voldothegr8 posted...
TheOlJollyRoger posted...
Just find the witness and silence them der

There's no silencing the physic bounty hunters and cops. For a game based on "realism" that sure is an unrealistic mechanic.


can we get rid of deadeye and health regen too while we are at it?????
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cavalierking
10/29/18 12:39:09 PM
#83:


boxington posted...
cavalierking posted...
guys, i have an unopened special edition right in front of me

should i open it or nah... ?

the game isn't broken in anyway, but you should play it for yourself to see whether you like its mechanics, or not


yeah, but the game only has like, what, $20's worth of trade-in value if it's opened?

special edition was almost $90 with tax

worth it to take a ~$70 plunge just to find out?
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foxhound101
10/30/18 9:42:23 PM
#84:


I played the first game for the first time about 6 months ago. I thought it was over-rated and don't intend to play this one anytime soon. I had fun for the 1st third of the game, but for some reason became bored with the second third of the game. The final third was better, but by then I was ready for the game to end.
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boxington
10/30/18 11:15:25 PM
#85:


cavalierking posted...
boxington posted...
cavalierking posted...
guys, i have an unopened special edition right in front of me

should i open it or nah... ?

the game isn't broken in anyway, but you should play it for yourself to see whether you like its mechanics, or not


yeah, but the game only has like, what, $20's worth of trade-in value if it's opened?

special edition was almost $90 with tax

worth it to take a ~$70 plunge just to find out?

can't you rent it on Gamefly?
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SuperMedz3
10/30/18 11:16:21 PM
#86:


Vertania posted...
I've only died once, but it was from getting stuck between two horses and having them kick me to death.

ha
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Irregardless
10/30/18 11:17:27 PM
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I'm glad I only rented it.
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