Current Events > HR sent an email today saying our office will have no smoking policy in 2019

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Anisoptera
10/26/18 4:47:42 PM
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Not even allowed to smoke outside in current smoking areas anymore. I've seen job postings where they require you to submit to nicotine testing and will not hire you if you fail.
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Zeeak4444
10/26/18 4:48:02 PM
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Fuck that.
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ssj3vegeta_
10/26/18 4:48:19 PM
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--Zero-
10/26/18 4:50:09 PM
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That's good cause people shouldn't smoke. For the ones with an problem though they can always wait until their lunch break like non smokers to drive away from their work place to do whatever.
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Vyrulisse
10/26/18 4:50:10 PM
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That's troubling that they continue to put their tendrils deeper and deeper into your actual life.
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PhazonReborn
10/26/18 4:51:27 PM
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Good.

Smokers look and smell like actual assholes
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Carlbertomfg
10/26/18 4:53:14 PM
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PhazonReborn posted...
Good.

Smokers look and smell like actual assholes

Whoa bro. The olsen twins smoke like chimneys and I challenge you to find more attractive mummies.
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DifferentialEquation
10/26/18 4:59:17 PM
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Anisoptera posted...
I've seen job postings where they require you to submit to nicotine testing and will not hire you if you fail.


I think business should have the freedom to do this if they want.

However, it's hypocritical of the left to support this while also wanting to treat drug addicts and alcoholics as a protected class from being fired and wanting the tax payers to fund injection rooms so they can shoot up their heroin in 5 star comfort.
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Smashingpmkns
10/26/18 5:01:11 PM
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No smoking policies is actually worse for employers and other things like universities. The smokers arent going to suddenly stop. They're just going to go off the grounds and possibly put themselves in a dangerous position instead of staying in a safe environment, especially for school campuses.
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Kombucha
10/26/18 5:02:23 PM
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Sounds like a great way to drive existing smokers further into poverty.
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s0nicfan
10/26/18 5:04:49 PM
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I blame vapers. Smokers where I work have always followed the rules and stuck to their huts and filter disposal cans, but vaping hit the scene and suddenly we were back to constantly reminding people that they can't stand literally right outside the main entrance forcing people to wade through a haze of fruit flavored smoke.
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Knowledge_King
10/26/18 5:39:13 PM
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Good. Smokers are scum.
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wackyteen
10/26/18 5:41:20 PM
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Anisoptera posted...
Not even allowed to smoke outside in current smoking areas anymore. I've seen job postings where they require you to submit to nicotine testing and will not hire you if you fail.

I don't smoke and never will but fuck this and any job offer like it.

Like, hard drugs I understand testing for.

Fucking nicotine? Fuck out of here
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fire_bolt
10/26/18 6:00:47 PM
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wackyteen posted...
Anisoptera posted...
Not even allowed to smoke outside in current smoking areas anymore. I've seen job postings where they require you to submit to nicotine testing and will not hire you if you fail.

I don't smoke and never will but fuck this and any job offer like it.

Like, hard drugs I understand testing for.

Fucking nicotine? Fuck out of here


You'd be surprised. Its not just small places either. The hospital my dad was in, the largest in the state, has a strict no-nicotine policy for all employees. You have to get tested before they hire you on and they test again once a year. Nicotine in your system is an immediate firing offense for people as educated as doctors and nurses. This will work its way down to blue collar eventually.
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Damn_Underscore
10/26/18 6:02:31 PM
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And through all of this drinking alcohol is still OK
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FairyLeviathan
10/26/18 6:02:37 PM
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I don't agree with the nicotine tests but no smoking on the premises is a-ok
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DoGCyN
10/26/18 6:03:52 PM
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Good. Fuck smokers. They're the reason I'm currently suffering through my health issues.

Although I don't agree with the nicotine testing. Vapers don't bother me.
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Genocet_10-325
10/26/18 6:04:11 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
wackyteen posted...
Anisoptera posted...
Not even allowed to smoke outside in current smoking areas anymore. I've seen job postings where they require you to submit to nicotine testing and will not hire you if you fail.

I don't smoke and never will but fuck this and any job offer like it.

Like, hard drugs I understand testing for.

Fucking nicotine? Fuck out of here


You'd be surprised. Its not just small places either. The hospital my dad was in, the largest in the state, has a strict no-nicotine policy for all employees. You have to get tested before they hire you on and they test again once a year. Nicotine in your system is an immediate firing offense for people as educated as doctors and nurses. This will work its way down to blue collar eventually.

So stop smoking for a few days once per year lmfao
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FairyLeviathan
10/26/18 6:04:18 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
And through all of this drinking alcohol is still OK

Post this again when smoking has health benefits.
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Cornmuffins
10/26/18 6:04:30 PM
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Seems like a good way to have a lot of pissy workers. I smoke, but I only do it during my breaks and lunch. I'd quit tbh.
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fire_bolt
10/26/18 6:05:22 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
And through all of this drinking alcohol is still OK


Alcohol does not have as many long term health impacts as smoking unless you drink A LOT. I also do not think you could test for it like you can THC and nicotine. To be clear, my understanding is this smoking testing thing is to keep health insurance costs low for employers, and nothing wrecks your health as much long term as smoking except maybe meth
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DoGCyN
10/26/18 6:06:25 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
And through all of this drinking alcohol is still OK


Alcohol does not have as many long term health impacts as smoking unless you drink A LOT. I also do not think you could test for it like you can THC and nicotine. To be clear, my understanding is this smoking testing thing is to keep health insurance costs low for employers, and nothing wrecks your health as much long term as smoking except maybe meth

And secondhand is a problem.
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Damn_Underscore
10/26/18 6:07:04 PM
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FairyLeviathan posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
And through all of this drinking alcohol is still OK

Post this again when smoking has health benefits.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-23/no-amount-of-alcohol-use-is-safe-analysis-of-studies-finds
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voldothegr8
10/26/18 6:09:50 PM
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They have the right to do it but I wouldn't want to work for an employer like that, and I don't smoke. Fuck companies dictating what legal activities you can and can't do off the clock. Of course if they're just saying you can't do it on the property, and not actually testing for it, that's fair enough.
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s0nicfan
10/26/18 6:13:08 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
FairyLeviathan posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
And through all of this drinking alcohol is still OK

Post this again when smoking has health benefits.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-23/no-amount-of-alcohol-use-is-safe-analysis-of-studies-finds


This whole line of reasoning is silly given that it's already a fireable offense to drink on the job.
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Damn_Underscore
10/26/18 6:14:21 PM
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According to people here you aren't allowed to use tobacco EVER at some jobs.

I obviously don't mean drinking on the job.
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s0nicfan
10/26/18 6:19:20 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
According to people here you aren't allowed to use tobacco EVER at some jobs.

I obviously don't mean drinking on the job.


It's also a fireable offense to be under the influence of alcohol while on the job, meaning you can't show up drunk either.

I mean, Banning smoking is dumb, but the alcohol comparison is just as bad because a total smoking ban would only put it on par with alcohol.
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TiamatLover
10/26/18 6:22:53 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
According to people here you aren't allowed to use tobacco EVER at some jobs.

I obviously don't mean drinking on the job.


It's also a fireable offense to be under the influence of alcohol while on the job, meaning you can't show up drunk either.

I mean, Banning smoking is dumb, but the alcohol comparison is just as bad because a total smoking ban would only put it on par with alcohol.


Except that this is more in line with saying "you're not allowed to drink, ever, even outside of work". Not to mention that smoking tobacco doesn't impair the user.
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Carlbertomfg
10/26/18 6:30:47 PM
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What if I only absorb the nicotine through my butt? What's the problem then?
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YookaLaylee
10/26/18 6:36:39 PM
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I dont smoke but that sounds like bullshit
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Kombucha
10/26/18 6:36:49 PM
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i'm more than a month quit from vaping, but i just want to say if i ever get early stages of dementia/alzheimers you can bet your ass i'm going back to wearing patches/chewing nicotine gum or vaping.
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MacDaMurderer
10/26/18 6:38:32 PM
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At my job they take $20 off every check if you use tobacco products.
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Cornmuffins
10/26/18 6:44:14 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
At my job they take $20 off every check if you use tobacco products.


Do you work for DIRECTV? I was at a buddies house when they were installing it and they told me that.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/26/18 6:47:25 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Good. Smokers are scum.

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OctilIery
10/26/18 11:38:56 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Fuck that.
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Muffinz0rz
10/26/18 11:40:53 PM
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I don't smoke but holy shit at the amount of "good" replies ITT
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Cookie Bag
10/26/18 11:41:55 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
No smoking policies is actually worse for employers and other things like universities. The smokers arent going to suddenly stop. They're just going to go off the grounds and possibly put themselves in a dangerous position instead of staying in a safe environment, especially for school campuses.

If they cared for their well being, or people around them, they wouldn't smoke to begin with, so fuck that.
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prince_leo
10/26/18 11:46:45 PM
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TiamatLover posted...
Except that this is more in line with saying "you're not allowed to drink, ever, even outside of work". Not to mention that smoking tobacco doesn't impair the user.

i'm not allowed to drink up to 8 hours before I start work, so it has precedence
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lesidesi
10/26/18 11:54:30 PM
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people used to be able to smoke (and they did) at their desks and the trading floor at banks
was never a fan but helped some people de-stress
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008Zulu
10/27/18 12:01:24 AM
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If you need to de-stress at work, get some porn on your phone, and rub one out.
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Muffinz0rz
10/27/18 12:07:59 AM
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008Zulu posted...
If you need to de-stress at work, whip it out in the break room like a fucking alpha and smash hot Becky from HR

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pres_madagascar
10/27/18 12:09:03 AM
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PhazonReborn posted...
Good.

Smokers look and smell like actual assholes

I spray sweet smelling mild scent spray after I do.
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DarkProto05
10/27/18 12:10:17 AM
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Good. Smokers can do whatever they want to their health but second hand smoke is no joke. They are selfish for not caring about others. Plus it smells terrible.
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NES4EVER
10/27/18 12:16:07 AM
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Funny.

My company just put out a policy stating you couldn't smoke pot less than 24 hours before your next shift.

Guess things are different here in Canada.
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TrevorBlack79
10/27/18 12:22:55 AM
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Anisoptera posted...
I've seen job postings where they require you to submit to nicotine testing and will not hire you if you fail.


This should be illegal. Employers should never have the right to regulate which legal activities their employees engage in on their own time.
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TheBiggerWiggle
10/27/18 12:28:59 AM
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As someone who smoked for almost ten years...

Good.
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voldothegr8
10/27/18 12:54:48 AM
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DarkProto05 posted...
Good. Smokers can do whatever they want to their health but second hand smoke is no joke. They are selfish for not caring about others. Plus it smells terrible.

2nd hand smoke outside is no more dangerous than the car fumes you breath in. You have to spend years indoors with a smoker smoking inside to be at higher risk for cancer.
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Rika_Furude
10/27/18 1:00:55 AM
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Kaiganeer
10/27/18 1:03:16 AM
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good. double the price of a pack next
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Pepys Monster
10/27/18 1:05:11 AM
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
As someone who smoked for almost ten years...

Good.

This man's opinion should not be overlooked.
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