Current Events > Trump is trying to appeal the decision that he can't block people on twitter.

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sktgamer_13dude 10/20/18 6:05:17 PM #51:	Nomadic View posted... Either Twitter is a public platform or it isnt. He should absolutely be able to block people, or in the alternative Twitter cannot ban speech it doesnt like. Not when his Tweets are official statements. If he wanted to use the POTUS account like what Obama did, thatd be one thing. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:910866859] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Either Twitter is a public platform or it isnt. He should absolutely be able to block people, or in the alternative Twitter cannot ban speech it doesnt like.</quote> Not when his Tweets are official statements. If he wanted to use the POTUS account like what Obama did, thatd be one thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 10/20/18 6:05:31 PM #52:	Trump has always hated free speech and desires nothing more than to shut any criticism of him down <cite>Axiom posted [p:910866874] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>Trump has always hated free speech and desires nothing more than to shut any criticism of him down</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 10/20/18 6:06:09 PM #53:	Serious Cat posted... DarkTransient posted... The only difference is that the user who blocks them will not see the post. The first amendment doesn't make any guarantee that anyone will receive your message, only that you're allowed to state it. It's not just preventing feedback. It's deliberately preventing specific individuals and entities from reading otherwise publicly available official government statements. That's illegal. As multiple people have pointed out, you can read the tweets by logging out. Not to mention the government aren't the ones who decide how a Twitter block does or doesn't work, so Twitter would be the ones denying them access - and I believe the first amendment has been ruled, multiple times, to not cover private entities in the first place. --- Proud to be part of the 1% of society that's smart enough to realise Australia is not real. <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:910866901] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Serious Cat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>The only difference is that the user who blocks them will not see the post. The first amendment doesn't make any guarantee that anyone will receive your message, only that you're allowed to state it.</quote> It's not just preventing feedback. It's deliberately preventing specific individuals and entities from reading otherwise publicly available official government statements. That's illegal.</quote> As multiple people have pointed out, you can read the tweets by logging out. Not to mention the government aren't the ones who decide how a Twitter block does or doesn't work, so Twitter would be the ones denying them access - and I believe the first amendment has been ruled, multiple times, to not cover private entities in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 10/20/18 6:07:05 PM #54:	Axiom posted... Trump has always hated free speech and desires nothing more than to shut any criticism of him down his followers feel the same. look at any alt right board on reddit --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:910866942] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Trump has always hated free speech and desires nothing more than to shut any criticism of him down</quote> his followers feel the same. look at any alt right board on reddit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 10/20/18 6:07:09 PM #55:	DarkTransient posted... catboy0_0 posted... Hey_Rihanna What a surprise, the guy with bad taste in babes also doesn't know how to tag or get usernames right. Let me fix that for you. Hey_Rihanna antagonistic, much? --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:910866946] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>Hey_Rihanna</quote> What a surprise, the guy with bad taste in babes also doesn't know how to tag or get usernames right. Let me fix that for you. Hey_Rihanna</quote> antagonistic, much?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 10/20/18 6:07:10 PM #56:	Hi_Rihanna posted... Tmaster148 posted... WhoAltisitneway posted... Tmaster148 posted... When you block someone on twitter they can't view your profile and can't respond to your tweet. This violates the first amendment, because it means he's preventing people from talking to him. You can just log off twitter to view his tweets so... I think you missed the part about being able to talk to him. if you thought you were able to talk to obama or any other president i have a bridge in idaho to sell you Considering Trump runs his page, if he looks at his replies....he can see you talking to him. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:910866948] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WhoAltisitneway posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>When you block someone on twitter they can't view your profile and can't respond to your tweet. This violates the first amendment, because it means he's preventing people from talking to him.</quote> You can just log off twitter to view his tweets so...</quote> I think you missed the part about being able to talk to him.</quote> if you thought you were able to talk to obama or any other president i have a bridge in idaho to sell you</quote> Considering Trump runs his page, if he looks at his replies....he can see you talking to him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 10/20/18 6:07:48 PM #57:	catboy0_0 posted... DarkTransient posted... catboy0_0 posted... Hey_Rihanna What a surprise, the guy with bad taste in babes also doesn't know how to tag or get usernames right. Let me fix that for you. Hey_Rihanna antagonistic, much? Bad taste much? --- Proud to be part of the 1% of society that's smart enough to realise Australia is not real. <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:910866972] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>Hey_Rihanna</quote> What a surprise, the guy with bad taste in babes also doesn't know how to tag or get usernames right. Let me fix that for you. Hey_Rihanna</quote> antagonistic, much?</quote> Bad taste much?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 10/20/18 6:08:38 PM #58:	DarkTransient posted... Bad taste much? y so mad about a videogame character --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:910866996] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Bad taste much?</quote> y so mad about a videogame character</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 10/20/18 6:08:58 PM #59:	catboy0_0 posted... DarkTransient posted... Bad taste much? y so mad about a videogame character Why you got such bad taste? --- Proud to be part of the 1% of society that's smart enough to realise Australia is not real. <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:910867010] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Bad taste much?</quote> y so mad about a videogame character</quote> Why you got such bad taste?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 10/20/18 6:13:15 PM #62:	Hi_Rihanna posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Hi_Rihanna posted... Tmaster148 posted... WhoAltisitneway posted... Tmaster148 posted... When you block someone on twitter they can't view your profile and can't respond to your tweet. This violates the first amendment, because it means he's preventing people from talking to him. You can just log off twitter to view his tweets so... I think you missed the part about being able to talk to him. if you thought you were able to talk to obama or any other president i have a bridge in idaho to sell you Considering Trump runs his page, if he looks at his replies....he can see you talking to him. if you seriously think any president is going to reply to something you say on twitter i have a bridge in arizona to sell you twitter is not the proper forum to engage with the president. there are methods in place for this Which is irrelevant, because the first amendment has absolutely nothing to do with the other party responding. Trump can't prevent people from trying to talk to him, but Trump does not have to respond to other people. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:910867211] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WhoAltisitneway posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>When you block someone on twitter they can't view your profile and can't respond to your tweet. This violates the first amendment, because it means he's preventing people from talking to him.</quote> You can just log off twitter to view his tweets so...</quote> I think you missed the part about being able to talk to him.</quote> if you thought you were able to talk to obama or any other president i have a bridge in idaho to sell you</quote> Considering Trump runs his page, if he looks at his replies....he can see you talking to him.</quote> if you seriously think any president is going to reply to something you say on twitter i have a bridge in arizona to sell you twitter is not the proper forum to engage with the president. there are methods in place for this</quote> Which is irrelevant, because the first amendment has absolutely nothing to do with the other party responding. Trump can't prevent people from trying to talk to him, but Trump does not have to respond to other people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 10/20/18 6:13:44 PM #63:	Hi_Rihanna posted... if you seriously think any president is going to reply to something you say on twitter i have a bridge in arizona to sell you twitter is not the proper forum to engage with the president. there are methods in place for this Who said anything about replying? You said talking to him. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:910867231] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote> if you seriously think any president is going to reply to something you say on twitter i have a bridge in arizona to sell you twitter is not the proper forum to engage with the president. there are methods in place for this </quote> Who said anything about replying? You said talking to him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 10/20/18 6:13:52 PM #64:	DarkTransient posted... As multiple people have pointed out, you can read the tweets by logging out. Not to mention the government aren't the ones who decide how a Twitter block does or doesn't work, so Twitter would be the ones denying them access - and I believe the first amendment has been ruled, multiple times, to not cover private entities in the first place. Blocking limits functionality (for example, it prevents direct responses to people you follow from being displayed in the main feed.) First amendment doesn't apply to private entities, but it does apply to official government platforms, which official Twitter accounts are. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:910867235] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote> As multiple people have pointed out, you can read the tweets by logging out. Not to mention the government aren't the ones who decide how a Twitter block does or doesn't work, so Twitter would be the ones denying them access - and I believe the first amendment has been ruled, multiple times, to not cover private entities in the first place. </quote> Blocking limits functionality (for example, it prevents direct responses to people you follow from being displayed in the main feed.) First amendment doesn't apply to private entities, but it does apply to official government platforms, which official Twitter accounts are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 10/20/18 6:13:53 PM #65:	Serious Cat posted... DarkTransient posted... The only difference is that the user who blocks them will not see the post. The first amendment doesn't make any guarantee that anyone will receive your message, only that you're allowed to state it. It's not just preventing feedback. It's deliberately preventing specific individuals and entities from reading otherwise publicly available official government statements. That's illegal. Nope. Not preventing anyone from reading his tweets. People without a Twitter account can read his tweets any time. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:910867238] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Serious Cat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>The only difference is that the user who blocks them will not see the post. The first amendment doesn't make any guarantee that anyone will receive your message, only that you're allowed to state it.</quote> It's not just preventing feedback. It's deliberately preventing specific individuals and entities from reading otherwise publicly available official government statements. That's illegal.</quote> Nope. Not preventing anyone from reading his tweets. People without a Twitter account can read his tweets any time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 10/20/18 6:15:53 PM #66:	These topics bring the dormant accounts out of the woodwork. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:910867343] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>These topics bring the dormant accounts out of the woodwork.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shevman 10/20/18 6:17:16 PM #67:	Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets? <cite>shevman posted [p:910867402] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Serious Cat 10/20/18 6:23:20 PM #69:	Hi_Rihanna posted... which official Twitter accounts are i forgot about that 4th branch of government in elementary school The Freedom of Information Act guarantees public access to official documents regardless of form or format. That'd be Twitter. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:910867635] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote><quote>which official Twitter accounts are</quote> i forgot about that 4th branch of government in elementary school</quote> The Freedom of Information Act guarantees public access to official documents regardless of form or format. That'd be Twitter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 10/20/18 6:24:37 PM #70:	DarkTransient posted... As multiple people have pointed out, you can read the tweets by logging out. Not to mention the government aren't the ones who decide how a Twitter block does or doesn't work, so Twitter would be the ones denying them access - and I believe the first amendment has been ruled, multiple times, to not cover private entities in the first place. The constitution and other laws still apply to Trump when he's using non-government platforms. This isn't a question about whether Twitter has the right to include a blocking function. The laws against personal enrichment via public office, for example, don't forbid COMPANIES from doing things with people in public office. It forbids the public officials. I could make a company whose sole purpose is to solicit endorsements from public officials for products, and that wouldn't be illegal. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:910867687] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>As multiple people have pointed out, you can read the tweets by logging out. Not to mention the government aren't the ones who decide how a Twitter block does or doesn't work, so Twitter would be the ones denying them access - and I believe the first amendment has been ruled, multiple times, to not cover private entities in the first place.</quote> The constitution and other laws still apply to Trump when he's using non-government platforms. This isn't a question about whether Twitter has the right to include a blocking function. The laws against personal enrichment via public office, for example, don't forbid COMPANIES from doing things with people in public office. It forbids the public officials. I could make a company whose sole purpose is to solicit endorsements from public officials for products, and that wouldn't be illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shevman 10/20/18 6:25:20 PM #71:	Serious Cat posted... Hi_Rihanna posted... which official Twitter accounts are i forgot about that 4th branch of government in elementary school The Freedom of Information Act guarantees public access to official documents regardless of form or format. That'd be Twitter. So why is Twitter allowed to ban people? <cite>shevman posted [p:910867722] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Serious Cat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote><quote>which official Twitter accounts are</quote> i forgot about that 4th branch of government in elementary school</quote> The Freedom of Information Act guarantees public access to official documents regardless of form or format. That'd be Twitter.</quote> So why is Twitter allowed to ban people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 10/20/18 6:26:43 PM #72:	shevman posted... Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets? No because that's a private company's decision. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:910867776] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets?</quote> No because that's a private company's decision.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 10/20/18 6:27:13 PM #73:	shevman posted... So why is Twitter allowed to ban people? Because Twitter is a private entity. The federal government isn't. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:910867794] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>So why is Twitter allowed to ban people?</quote> Because Twitter is a private entity. The federal government isn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 10/20/18 6:27:13 PM #74:	Also I'd like to point out how ridiculous this is. The president of the United States is actually trying to use legal recourse so he can violate the first amendment and block people that hurt his feelings. Not only that but people actually are defending this petty shit <cite>Axiom posted [p:910867796] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>Also I'd like to point out how ridiculous this is. The president of the United States is actually trying to use legal recourse so he can violate the first amendment and block people that hurt his feelings. Not only that but people actually are defending this petty shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 10/20/18 6:28:04 PM #75:	shevman posted... So why is Twitter allowed to ban people? Because the first amendment doesn't apply to companies. No non-government company is obligated to carry official white house statements or to make them available to their entire userbase. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:910867827] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>So why is Twitter allowed to ban people?</quote> Because the first amendment doesn't apply to companies. No non-government company is obligated to carry official white house statements or to make them available to their entire userbase.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shevman 10/20/18 6:28:07 PM #77:	Bio1590 posted... shevman posted... Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets? No because that's a private company's decision. But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here <cite>shevman posted [p:910867829] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets?</quote> No because that's a private company's decision.</quote> But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 10/20/18 6:29:06 PM #78:	Hi_Rihanna posted... his twitter is his personal account as is everybody on twitter. It may have been his personal twitter, but with how Trump uses his twitter it can no longer be considered a personal twitter account. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:910867867] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote>his twitter is his personal account as is everybody on twitter.</quote> It may have been his personal twitter, but with how Trump uses his twitter it can no longer be considered a personal twitter account.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 10/20/18 6:29:36 PM #79:	Hi_Rihanna posted... Serious Cat posted... Hi_Rihanna posted... which official Twitter accounts are i forgot about that 4th branch of government in elementary school The Freedom of Information Act guarantees public access to official documents regardless of form or format. That'd be Twitter. twitter is not an official document. his twitter is his personal account as is everybody on twitter. also whitehouse.gov literally every news outlet The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:910867895] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Serious Cat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote><quote>which official Twitter accounts are</quote> i forgot about that 4th branch of government in elementary school</quote> The Freedom of Information Act guarantees public access to official documents regardless of form or format. That'd be Twitter.</quote> twitter is not an official document. his twitter is his personal account as is everybody on twitter. also whitehouse.gov literally every news outlet</quote> The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 10/20/18 6:29:45 PM #80:	Hi_Rihanna posted... twitter is not an official document. his twitter is his personal account The Department of Justice specifically disagrees. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:910867905] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hi_Rihanna posted...</cite> <quote>twitter is not an official document. his twitter is his personal account </quote> The Department of Justice specifically disagrees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 10/20/18 6:30:03 PM #81:	Bio1590 posted... The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:910867917] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 10/20/18 6:30:19 PM #82:	shevman posted... Bio1590 posted... shevman posted... Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets? No because that's a private company's decision. But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here Is Twitter, the company itself, a Government entity? --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:910867925] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets?</quote> No because that's a private company's decision.</quote> But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here</quote> Is Twitter, the company itself, a Government entity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shevman 10/20/18 6:32:53 PM #83:	Bio1590 posted... shevman posted... Bio1590 posted... shevman posted... Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets? No because that's a private company's decision. But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here Is Twitter, the company itself, a Government entity? It looks like it has become a de facto Government Entity if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it <cite>shevman posted [p:910868030] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets?</quote> No because that's a private company's decision.</quote> But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here</quote> Is Twitter, the company itself, a Government entity?</quote> It looks like it has become a de facto Government Entity if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 10/20/18 6:33:45 PM #84:	shevman posted... Bio1590 posted... shevman posted... Bio1590 posted... shevman posted... Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets? No because that's a private company's decision. But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here Is Twitter, the company itself, a Government entity? It looks like it has become a de facto Government Entity if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it ledbowman posted... Bio1590 posted... The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:910868062] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets?</quote> No because that's a private company's decision.</quote> But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here</quote> Is Twitter, the company itself, a Government entity?</quote> It looks like it has become a de facto Government Entity if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it</quote> <cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 10/20/18 6:34:57 PM #85:	Like, for all you people that are talking out of your ass about this, here's the judge's decision and reasoning: https://knightcolumbia.org/sites/default/files/content/Cases/Twitter/2018.05.23%20Order%20on%20motions%20for%20summary%20judgment.pdf To win the appeal, Trump's lawyers will need to address those points. They can't just walk up and say "Your honor, no one has the right to be heard." So why are people itt doing it? shevman posted... It looks like it has become a de facto Government Entity if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it Like has been said in this topic already, government use of non-governmental platforms still must follow the law. It's not a question of the rules of those non-governmental platforms. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:910868106] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>Like, for all you people that are talking out of your ass about this, here's the judge's decision and reasoning: https://knightcolumbia.org/sites/default/files/content/Cases/Twitter/2018.05.23%20Order%20on%20motions%20for%20summary%20judgment.pdf To win the appeal, Trump's lawyers will need to address those points. They can't just walk up and say "Your honor, no one has the right to be heard." So why are people itt doing it? <cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>It looks like it has become a de facto Government Entity if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it</quote> Like has been said in this topic already, government use of non-governmental platforms still must follow the law. It's not a question of the rules of those non-governmental platforms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stone 10/20/18 6:35:08 PM #86:	ledbowman posted... Bio1590 posted... The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications. Easier than trying to control him and to make him stop using Twitter haha --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them <cite>stone posted [p:910868111] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications.</quote></quote> Easier than trying to control him and to make him stop using Twitter haha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 10/20/18 6:35:34 PM #87:	shevman posted... Bio1590 posted... shevman posted... Bio1590 posted... shevman posted... Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets? No because that's a private company's decision. But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here Is Twitter, the company itself, a Government entity? It looks like it has become a de facto Government Entity if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it The White House considers it official. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:910868124] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Twitter shouldn't be allowed to ban people as it will prevent them from seeing Trumps tweets?</quote> No because that's a private company's decision.</quote> But it's denying their access to presidential statements therefore breaching the first amendment according to the arguments being put forth here</quote> Is Twitter, the company itself, a Government entity?</quote> It looks like it has become a de facto Government Entity if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it</quote> The White House considers it official.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 10/20/18 6:37:00 PM #88:	shevman posted... if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it It's not a branch of government and nobody's claiming it is. It's an official communication channel for a government official to make official public statements. It is therefore covered under the Freedom of Information Act, which requires official public statements to be publicly available regardless of form or format. Twitter is a format, therefore illegal for government officials to prevent public access. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:910868165] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>if we're going to consider Trumps Twitter account a branch of government and apply the constitution to it</quote> It's not a branch of government and nobody's claiming it is. It's an official communication channel for a government official to make official public statements. It is therefore covered under the Freedom of Information Act, which requires official public statements to be publicly available regardless of form or format. Twitter is a format, therefore illegal for government officials to prevent public access.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/20/18 6:38:34 PM #89:	I'm actually quite interested in seeing how this plays out over the courts, simply because this is an example of technology being developed before the rules regulating them has been established. Being that the WH has stated and courts have found that statements made on his Twitter are official statements, there is some merit to the argument that by restricting who can see your tweets you are directly impeding their ability to hear government issues statements. For example, if a politician gave a SOTU address but specifically targeted certain households from receiving the broadcast, I'm sure that wouldn't be allowed to stand. Honestly I think it's stupid and think that he should be able to, but removing Teump entirely from the situation, I feel this is an issue that's fairly unprecedented and something that the courts will need to work out as we push more into the future. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:910868240] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>I'm actually quite interested in seeing how this plays out over the courts, simply because this is an example of technology being developed before the rules regulating them has been established. Being that the WH has stated and courts have found that statements made on his Twitter are official statements, there is some merit to the argument that by restricting who can see your tweets you are directly impeding their ability to hear government issues statements. For example, if a politician gave a SOTU address but specifically targeted certain households from receiving the broadcast, I'm sure that wouldn't be allowed to stand. Honestly I think it's stupid and think that he should be able to, but removing Teump entirely from the situation, I feel this is an issue that's fairly unprecedented and something that the courts will need to work out as we push more into the future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 10/20/18 6:38:38 PM #90:	people still fall for these tired gimmicks --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire <cite>bover_87 posted [p:910868244] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>people still fall for these tired gimmicks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shevman 10/20/18 6:38:54 PM #91:	Can we really continue to consider Twitter as just a private company if their platform is hosting official governmental matters, not just for the US but probably a lot of countries <cite>shevman posted [p:910868256] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>Can we really continue to consider Twitter as just a private company if their platform is hosting official governmental matters, not just for the US but probably a lot of countries</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/20/18 6:42:10 PM #92:	shevman posted... Can we really continue to consider Twitter as just a private company if their platform is hosting official governmental matters, not just for the US but probably a lot of countries If it and other social media companies moving forward are reclassified as public entities then maybe, but as it legally stands right now they are officially and legally private companies. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:910868411] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>Can we really continue to consider Twitter as just a private company if their platform is hosting official governmental matters, not just for the US but probably a lot of countries</quote> If it and other social media companies moving forward are reclassified as public entities then maybe, but as it legally stands right now they are officially and legally private companies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 10/20/18 6:44:38 PM #93:	shevman posted... Can we really continue to consider Twitter as just a private company if their platform is hosting official governmental matters, not just for the US but probably a lot of countries Yes, just as public information is published in private media. The private company is allowed to restrict access. Government agencies are not. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:910868543] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>Can we really continue to consider Twitter as just a private company if their platform is hosting official governmental matters, not just for the US but probably a lot of countries</quote> Yes, just as public information is published in private media. The private company is allowed to restrict access. Government agencies are not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 10/20/18 6:44:45 PM #94:	shevman posted... Can we really continue to consider Twitter as just a private company if their platform is hosting official governmental matters, not just for the US but probably a lot of countries Why are all of your posts only in this topic? Why is this account only brought out at certain times? stone posted... ledbowman posted... Bio1590 posted... The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications. Easier than trying to control him and to make him stop using Twitter haha They made a mistake letting him continue to use his regular account. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:910868549] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>shevman posted...</cite> <quote>Can we really continue to consider Twitter as just a private company if their platform is hosting official governmental matters, not just for the US but probably a lot of countries</quote> Why are all of your posts only in this topic? Why is this account only brought out at certain times? <cite>stone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>The White House has explicitly stated on multiple occasions that Trump's tweets are official White House communications.</quote></quote> Easier than trying to control him and to make him stop using Twitter haha</quote> They made a mistake letting him continue to use his regular account.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stone 10/20/18 6:45:46 PM #95:	Bio1590 posted... They made a mistake letting him continue to use his regular account. They sure did.. But hey, 2 years of mistakes so far, they'll learn, maybe. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them <cite>stone posted [p:910868598] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>They made a mistake letting him continue to use his regular account.</quote> They sure did.. But hey, 2 years of mistakes so far, they'll learn, maybe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiderofHogs 10/20/18 6:58:19 PM #97:	He should be able to block them from his personal Twitter but not the presidential one. --- I hath returned. <cite>RiderofHogs posted [p:910869147] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>He should be able to block them from his personal Twitter but not the presidential one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 10/20/18 7:02:53 PM #98:	Nomadic View posted... Either Twitter is a public platform or it isnt. He should absolutely be able to block people, or in the alternative Twitter cannot ban speech it doesnt like. Rules are different for the president. If he wants to tweet about politics on his personal account he cant censor anyone from reading it or responding directly to him. He cant have it both ways. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:910869363] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Either Twitter is a public platform or it isnt. He should absolutely be able to block people, or in the alternative Twitter cannot ban speech it doesnt like.</quote> Rules are different for the president. If he wants to tweet about politics on his personal account he cant censor anyone from reading it or responding directly to him. He cant have it both ways.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 10/20/18 7:04:42 PM #99:	RiderofHogs posted... He should be able to block them from his personal Twitter but not the presidential one. He would if he didn't use his personal Twitter in an official government way. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:910869436] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>He should be able to block them from his personal Twitter but not the presidential one.</quote> He would if he didn't use his personal Twitter in an official government way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 10/20/18 7:09:41 PM #100:	He's too proud of his personal account to not use it as president. All his birther shit and everything is on there. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:910869674] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote>He's too proud of his personal account to not use it as president. All his birther shit and everything is on there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stone 10/20/18 7:10:03 PM #101:	RiderofHogs posted... He should be able to block them from his personal Twitter but not the presidential one. That's the thing. He uses his personal one as the presidential one. As has already been pointed out multiple times. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them <cite>stone posted [p:910869694] in Trump is t... [t:77116249]...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>He should be able to block them from his personal Twitter but not the presidential one.</quote> That's the thing. He uses his personal one as the presidential one. As has already been pointed out multiple times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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