Current Events > 22 years for putting abortion pill in drink

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https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/2018/10/09/judge-imposes-22-year-sentence-case-involving-abortion-inducing-drug/1567018002/

So why isnt abortion in general punished with 22 years?

Why can't you just go back to /pol?
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yeah because a man forcing a woman to unknowingly have an abortion and a woman deciding to get one on her own are totally the same thing.
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If she didn't drink it, how did he get caught?

Edit: Also, I'm not anti-abortion or any of that shit, but it just doesn't seem like it can be simultaneously killing a baby, and not killing a baby. I wonder how the "just a clump of cells" or "parasite" crowd feels about it.
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It's almost like there's a difference between a woman choosing abortion and a man choosing to force an abortion.
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shnangyboos posted...

Edit: Also, I'm not anti-abortion or any of that shit, but it just doesn't seem like it can be simultaneously killing a baby, and not killing a baby. I wonder how the "just a clump of cells" or "parasite" crowd feels about it.

The victim is the woman.

shnangyboos posted...

If she didn't drink it, how did he get caught?

Edit: Also, I'm not anti-abortion or any of that shit, but it just doesn't seem like it can be simultaneously killing a baby, and not killing a baby. I wonder how the "just a clump of cells" or "parasite" crowd feels about it.

she saw powder in a drink he bought for her, sent it to lab for testing
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Depends if the baby is wanted or not, ugh
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shnangyboos posted...

If she didn't drink it, how did he get caught?

Did you even read the article??

On Sept. 17, 2007, the family went to a downtown Appleton restaurant, then to an ice cream shop for dessert. Patel brought her a smoothie while she waited outside in the car, but she saw him split the drink into two cups and "frantically" stir the cup, the complaint said. She took the drink when Patel returned to the car, but didn't drink it.

The woman later looked closely inside the cup and saw a powder inside, the complaint said. She even brought the cup back to the store, where the employees told her they don't put powder in their smoothies.

About a week later, she sent samples of the substance in the cup to a lab in California, which confirmed it was a drug used to terminate pregnancies.

A lab run by the Food and Drug Administration later confirmed the results, the complaint said.

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giving men the option of financial abortion would stop this sort of thing ... they give up all rights to the child with the benefit of not having to pay
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Dampproof posted...

shnangyboos posted...

If she didn't drink it, how did he get caught?

Did you even read the article??

On Sept. 17, 2007, the family went to a downtown Appleton restaurant, then to an ice cream shop for dessert. Patel brought her a smoothie while she waited outside in the car, but she saw him split the drink into two cups and "frantically" stir the cup, the complaint said. She took the drink when Patel returned to the car, but didn't drink it.

The woman later looked closely inside the cup and saw a powder inside, the complaint said. She even brought the cup back to the store, where the employees told her they don't put powder in their smoothies.

About a week later, she sent samples of the substance in the cup to a lab in California, which confirmed it was a drug used to terminate pregnancies.

A lab run by the Food and Drug Administration later confirmed the results, the complaint said.

My bad, I just stopped when I saw a related article and an ad, I thought that was it.
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zombiexdeathx posted...

benefit of not having to pay

what makes you think women will allow that?
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ModLogic posted...

zombiexdeathx posted...

benefit of not having to pay

what makes you think women will allow that?

It's already a thing. The man signs away all rights to the child and doesn't have to pay anything, but also can't try to claim the kid later on.

zombiexdeathx posted...

giving men the option of financial abortion would stop this sort of thing ... they give up all rights to the child with the benefit of not having to pay

This has to be a joke post. Letting who knows how many men skip on the most important thing they have responsibility of to prevent such a presumably rare occurrence? Are you high zombie? Do you hate children? Do you hate a woman's choice? Must be a joke post.

zombiexdeathx posted...

giving men the option of financial abortion would stop this sort of thing ... they give up all rights to the child with the benefit of not having to pay

Or perhaps they should take responsibility for their actions?
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zombiexdeathx posted...

giving men the option of financial abortion would stop this sort of thing ... they give up all rights to the child with the benefit of not having to pay

I'd be ok with that option as long as the woman was ok with it. Other than that, use your upstairs head before using your downstairs head.
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gmanthebest posted...

your upstairs head before using your downstairs head.

does this apply to the woman too?
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IloveJesus posted...

zombiexdeathx posted...

giving men the option of financial abortion would stop this sort of thing ... they give up all rights to the child with the benefit of not having to pay

Or perhaps they should take responsibility for their actions?

CE doesn't understand this logic. Don't try
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not sure how it works

but maybe he was sentenced to 22 because they know he can do something to reduce it
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ModLogic posted...

gmanthebest posted...

your upstairs head before using your downstairs head.

does this apply to the woman too?

Of course. It takes two to tango.
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masterbarf posted...

shnangyboos posted...

Edit: Also, I'm not anti-abortion or any of that shit, but it just doesn't seem like it can be simultaneously killing a baby, and not killing a baby. I wonder how the "just a clump of cells" or "parasite" crowd feels about it.

The victim is the woman.

But the crime was "attempted first-degree intentional homicide of an unborn child"
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Giving a man the power to sign away the rights of their child to avoid child support gives me the power to knock up any girl I want and not have to deal with the consequences. I'm not trippin about this though, it sounds great since I don't want a kid in high school.

But it also means you can be a complete deadbeat with no ramifications so this shouldn't be a thing at all.
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