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DarkChozoGhost 10/16/18 10:07:07 AM #51: |
I understand disliking the term "toxic monogamy," but all but maybe two bullet points on that list are 100% correct.
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Unbreakable 10/16/18 10:10:10 AM #52: |
YUHH posted...
im pretty sure milkman is actually into cuckoldry with how much he froths at the mouth about it Yeah, I thought that was obvious --- But Wait... there's more ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 10/16/18 11:23:56 AM #54: |
This is like the time I saw a SJW unironically crusading about biological sexual preferences because they were sexist
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AlephZero 10/16/18 11:24:28 AM #55: |
cuckoldry is the thinking man's fetish
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thanosibe 10/16/18 11:33:04 AM #56: |
thelovefist posted...
Conflict posted...I have the weekend off and the kids are going their grandpa's as my wife and I are going to celebrate 19 years married. All that list is moronic because it's just points that even married people that love each other try not to do or practice. It's sounds like a list some mad millenial made because they seem to hate marriage, and think all marriage is bad instead of just not being for marriage themselves.Most of that list is incredibly stupid but a few make sense And the opposite goes true with people that are for marriage. I don't give two fucks if my boys never get married but find a woman and stay with her if they love each other. The toxicity of all this either or bullshit when it comes to relationships is starting to get sick. People are so ate up with hate and jealousy that they have to turn to trying to make everyone else as miserable and unhappy as they are. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 10/16/18 11:35:28 AM #57: |
I didnt expect such a well defined list when I clicked on this but the image in the OP was surprisingly informative and agreeable.
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spudger 10/16/18 11:37:23 AM #58: |
Tmaster148 posted...
I'm going to guess 1 person said it and that 1 person has now triggered you. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 10/16/18 11:54:47 AM #59: |
thanosibe posted...
All that list is moronic because it's just points that even married people that love each other try not to do or practice. It's sounds like a list some mad millenial made because they seem to hate marriage, and think all marriage is bad instead of just not being for marriage themselves. I don't think the list itself supports your argument. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 10/16/18 12:20:53 PM #60: |
Anteaterking posted...
thanosibe posted...Ok, so what about it don't you think does?All that list is moronic because it's just points that even married people that love each other try not to do or practice. It's sounds like a list some mad millenial made because they seem to hate marriage, and think all marriage is bad instead of just not being for marriage themselves. I don't think "X exists in marriage" is a good argument to the validity of marriage as a practice. Does still birth or miscarriages erase the value people hold to procreation? That's why I said I think this list is just someone going out of their way to devalue marriage. Not someone looking to point negatives that can happen in marriage to make it a better arrangement in of itself. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameboyTroy 10/16/18 12:21:19 PM #61: |
SageHarpuiaHX posted...
Realtalk though, why the fuck would you get married if you were still going to fuck other people? Being married is supposed to be an exclusive thing. --- Goldeneye FC 5365-5518-3504 alt FC 3899-7748-6731; MKWii FC 4253-8089-9160 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 10/16/18 1:34:15 PM #62: |
thanosibe posted...
Ok, so what about it don't you think does? I just don't know why you're reading this list as "someone who's not married bashing people who are". Like "Jealousy is good because it means love" is something that fills abusive marriages. You can be married and say that's bad. It's not just a belief propagated by married people either; e.g. Hallmark movies propagate them as well as other media. There are plenty of married couples who think that the idea that children are the end goal of marriage is ridiculous. Is it any more ridiculous to think that the only end goal of a relationship is marriage? I just don't see the bitter unmarried aspect of this that you do. I think you are somehow feeling attacked by this, but it doesn't say marriage is bad. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 10/16/18 3:11:30 PM #63: |
Anteaterking posted...
thanosibe posted...Maybe I am getting influenced by the overall bitter attitude this forum seems to have towards marriage/relationships rather than being able to single out the post in the OP singularly. And that some context around the post in the OP might shed light on the poster's intent in posting this.Ok, so what about it don't you think does? "The idea of commitment is synonymous with exclusivity" seems to be the one that's most blatantly mean spirited. The whole idea of marriage is to be exclusive to someone. That's the definition of monogamy. Now I am not going to argue whether monogamy works for everyone, but from discussions on this board and elsewhere open relationships where no one is exclusive, and it works for all parties involved are very rare. A track record like that seems to speak to the opposite of what the poster in the OP is claiming. "The idea that being of value to a partner should always make up a large chuck of how you value yourself" Again, how I estimate my worth as a husband or even a father is mine to choose. There is nothing inherit about valuing yourself based on what you can do for others. No one should tell anyone how to estimate their value as a person. And if I do equate myself based on what I offer as a husband and father, and I am happy with that, then it is not an inherently bad idea. There's too many absolutes in the way the post is presented which is what makes me instinctually think discussion is not what the poster is after. But without context I can not say for sure. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 10/16/18 3:14:38 PM #64: |
VipaGTS posted...
Milkman5 posted...why do a lot of liberal journalists waste their time writing hate articles on Friends Why do you troll about conservatives? It goes both ways. --- Www.deviantart.com/goggalor1990 Reading: Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YUHH 10/16/18 3:15:08 PM #65: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
VipaGTS posted...Milkman5 posted...why do a lot of liberal journalists waste their time writing hate articles on Friends Why do you beat your mom and think you have any modicum of writing talent? --- https://i.imgtc.com/jUodQdE.jpg Barbecue confederate flags over spare time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkTransient 10/16/18 3:15:29 PM #66: |
RebelElite791 posted...
Uhh, I mean take issue with the name if youd like but nothing about that list in the pic is wrong (except maybe the part about exclusivity depending on the couple) Holy shit. It's a rare day when I agree with RebelElite on something. --- Proud to be part of the 1% of society that's smart enough to realise Australia is not real. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 10/16/18 3:16:28 PM #67: |
YUHH posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...VipaGTS posted...Milkman5 posted...why do a lot of liberal journalists waste their time writing hate articles on Friends Shut your fucking mouth. Jesus fucking christ, what are you, 10? --- Www.deviantart.com/goggalor1990 Reading: Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YUHH 10/16/18 3:17:17 PM #68: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
YUHH posted..._Goggalor_ posted...VipaGTS posted...Milkman5 posted...why do a lot of liberal journalists waste their time writing hate articles on Friends Older than you actually but that's irrelevant to my question. --- https://i.imgtc.com/jUodQdE.jpg Barbecue confederate flags over spare time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 10/16/18 3:18:08 PM #69: |
OP on most nights:
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SaithSayer 10/16/18 3:19:31 PM #70: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
YUHH posted..._Goggalor_ posted...VipaGTS posted...Milkman5 posted...why do a lot of liberal journalists waste their time writing hate articles on Friends ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 10/16/18 3:20:18 PM #71: |
YUHH posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...YUHH posted..._Goggalor_ posted...VipaGTS posted...Milkman5 posted...why do a lot of liberal journalists waste their time writing hate articles on Friends You're a real piece of garbage. Seriously. --- Www.deviantart.com/goggalor1990 Reading: Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YUHH 10/16/18 3:20:42 PM #72: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
YUHH posted..._Goggalor_ posted...YUHH posted..._Goggalor_ posted...VipaGTS posted...Milkman5 posted...why do a lot of liberal journalists waste their time writing hate articles on Friends At least I don't beat my own mom. --- https://i.imgtc.com/jUodQdE.jpg Barbecue confederate flags over spare time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Biscuit 10/16/18 3:21:25 PM #73: |
Stupid name but reasonable list of bad assumptions about love
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KaiserDragoon67 10/16/18 3:28:34 PM #74: |
It comes off as cucks trying to feel better about themselves.
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YUHH 10/16/18 4:29:06 PM #75: |
YUHH posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...You're a real piece of garbage. Seriously. If I only knew posting this would trigger a giant meltdown --- https://i.imgtc.com/jUodQdE.jpg Barbecue confederate flags over spare time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unbreakable 10/16/18 4:31:05 PM #77: |
Hairistotle posted...
you are notorious for posting things that have little traction and attributing them to "liberals" so forgive my doubt Milkman posts about his fetish an awful lot --- But Wait... there's more ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA 10/16/18 5:09:38 PM #78: |
DeadSite posted...
Monogamy is toxic tho /thread --- Kill anyone who gets in the way... Actually nevermind that... JUST KILL EVERYONE! - Kyojiro Kagenuma - WoTS 2 PSN:kingmalak ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 10/16/18 5:14:13 PM #79: |
Hey, congrats on your internship. I remember you were really worried about getting a job and how you couldn't find one. Where did you end up finding this one?
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Anteaterking 10/16/18 5:25:55 PM #80: |
thanosibe posted...
"The idea of commitment is synonymous with exclusivity" seems to be the one that's most blatantly mean spirited. The whole idea of marriage is to be exclusive to someone. That's the definition of monogamy. Now I am not going to argue whether monogamy works for everyone, but from discussions on this board and elsewhere open relationships where no one is exclusive, and it works for all parties involved are very rare. A track record like that seems to speak to the opposite of what the poster in the OP is claiming. I don't think they're saying monogamy shouldn't be that way, they're saying that monogamous relationships aren't the only kind, and similarly that you can be committed to something without it being the ONLY thing you're committed to. That being said, I think this is the weakest of their points as that has more to do with monogamy being most prevalent. thanosibe posted... "The idea that being of value to a partner should always make up a large chuck of how you value yourself" Again, how I estimate my worth as a husband or even a father is mine to choose. There is nothing inherit about valuing yourself based on what you can do for others. No one should tell anyone how to estimate their value as a person. And if I do equate myself based on what I offer as a husband and father, and I am happy with that, then it is not an inherently bad idea. Again, I think you're misreading this. It's not "Your value to a partner shouldn't be a large chunk of how you value yourself". It's what you said: No one should tell anyone how to estimate their value of a person. But frequently people impose the idea on married couples that their value only comes from their relationship. That's where I think your disagreement is coming from. You are viewing all of these as "Anyone who believes this for their own relationship is bad", when most of them are "This isn't the only way to frame relationships and it's wrong to impose that framing on others." And it would be a lie to say that the prevalent world view is that people who view their own relationship that way are bad. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnragedSlith 10/16/18 5:39:47 PM #81: |
Monogamy is the foundation of marriage and our society. Theres a reason it was pushed so heavily in ancient religious texts.
I dont think theres anything inherently toxic about monogamy, and Im not really into the idea of sharing yourself emotionally and physically with multiple people concurrently. But those expectations of monogamy and commitment and what that entails can lead to toxic feelings and situations. I think it depends on the context of the relationship and who youre sharing one with. Monogamy becomes far more important when youre trying to maintain a home. It is essential to raising a family. And, I think its usually essential to maintaining a relationship in general, because once youve decided to be established, feeling out other connections can undermine whatever youre trying to build. Youre always going to be drawn towards other people, and there are people who youre going to feel a stronger pull toward than your current partner. But is that worth tearing down what youve built with someone? I dont know the numbers, but I wonder how many cheaters regret losing the stability they took for granted. Theres a quote I like that says the grass is greenest where you water it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 10/16/18 6:10:46 PM #82: |
Anteaterking posted...
thanosibe posted..."The idea of commitment is synonymous with exclusivity" seems to be the one that's most blatantly mean spirited. The whole idea of marriage is to be exclusive to someone. That's the definition of monogamy. Now I am not going to argue whether monogamy works for everyone, but from discussions on this board and elsewhere open relationships where no one is exclusive, and it works for all parties involved are very rare. A track record like that seems to speak to the opposite of what the poster in the OP is claiming. Any time you have to go "what they really meant" means that it most likely was the original interpretation. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 10/16/18 6:21:22 PM #83: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Any time you have to go "what they really meant" means that it most likely was the original interpretation. I'm not adding subtext to it, I'm reading exactly what it says. Thanosibe is adding the subtext of "Therefore they must hate married people!" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Milkman5 10/16/18 8:12:19 PM #84: |
scar the 1 posted...
Hey, congrats on your internship. I remember you were really worried about getting a job and how you couldn't find one. Where did you end up finding this one? dont congratulate me its a QA internship :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pres_madagascar 10/16/18 8:15:49 PM #85: |
I won't share. Period.
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Blue_Dream87 10/16/18 8:36:39 PM #86: |
At this point I think anything with "toxic" in it's name triggers certain subsets that can't think critically. Legit concepts like this and toxic masculinity/femininity seem to fly over too many heads
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YUHH 10/16/18 8:38:25 PM #87: |
Blue_Dream87 posted...
At this point I think anything with "toxic" in it's name triggers certain subsets that can't think critically. Legit concepts like this and toxic masculinity/femininity seem to fly over too many heads https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0090190/?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=amzn_dp_dvd --- https://i.imgtc.com/jUodQdE.jpg Barbecue confederate flags over spare time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 10/16/18 8:43:54 PM #88: |
YUHH posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...At this point I think anything with "toxic" in it's name triggers certain subsets that can't think critically. Legit concepts like this and toxic masculinity/femininity seem to fly over too many heads Don't ever post this on /pol/ or the entire internet will turn into Chernobyl --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CornBarn 10/16/18 8:44:40 PM #89: |
commitment does mean exclusivity.
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Unbreakable 10/16/18 8:45:14 PM #90: |
Blue_Dream87 posted...
At this point I think anything with "toxic" in it's name triggers certain subsets that can't think critically. Legit concepts like this and toxic masculinity/femininity seem to fly over too many heads What about Milkmans toxic involuntary celibacy? --- But Wait... there's more ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 10/16/18 8:46:05 PM #91: |
CornBarn posted...
commitment does mean exclusivity. So parents can only commit to one child? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CornBarn 10/16/18 8:46:52 PM #92: |
Blue_Dream87 posted...
CornBarn posted...commitment does mean exclusivity. what? we're talking about the couple here. not parents and children. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 10/16/18 8:47:08 PM #93: |
CornBarn posted...
commitment does mean exclusivity. in general, commitment does not mean exclusivity. having outside commitments does not mean you aren't committed to whatever it is that you're doing at the time. likewise, it is possible to be in a committed romantic relationship with more than one person --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 10/16/18 8:49:08 PM #94: |
CornBarn posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...CornBarn posted...commitment does mean exclusivity. So we change the definition outside monogamy? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CornBarn 10/16/18 8:49:10 PM #95: |
averagejoel posted...
it is possible to be in a committed romantic relationship with more than one person that'd be extremely rare. not at all the norm or what most people want in a marriage. at that point there is no reason to marry any specific person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CornBarn 10/16/18 8:49:54 PM #96: |
Blue_Dream87 posted...
CornBarn posted...Blue_Dream87 posted...CornBarn posted...commitment does mean exclusivity. definitely. no one talks ahout "exclusivity" in marriage vis a vis parents and children. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 10/16/18 8:50:43 PM #97: |
I think we have totally different ideas of what commitment means.
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CornBarn 10/16/18 8:51:32 PM #98: |
Blue_Dream87 posted...
I think we have totally different ideas of what commitment means. good luck getting any respectable partner to think the way you do. no seriously, good luck ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 10/16/18 8:52:14 PM #99: |
CornBarn posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...I think we have totally different ideas of what commitment means. I've been in a healthy poly relationship, so... --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CornBarn 10/16/18 8:54:57 PM #100: |
Blue_Dream87 posted...
CornBarn posted...Blue_Dream87 posted...I think we have totally different ideas of what commitment means. haha yeah ok ... Copied to Clipboard!
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