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St0rmFury
10/12/18 12:07:20 AM
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Man who fired shotgun at lost black boy seeking directions says he's 'tired of being a victim'

A white man who fired a shotgun at a black teen who got lost on the way to school told detectives investigating the alleged hate crime, Im tired of being a victim.

Detective Shawn Pace of Michigans Oakland County Sheriffs Office testified Tuesday that after an April 12 surveillance video contradicted Jeffrey C. Zeiglers claim that he accidentally fired a shotgun at 14-year-old Brennan Walker, who knocked on his door seeking directions. According to the Detroit News, Zeigler, 53, has been charged with assault with intent to murder and potentially faces life in prison.

Walker, of Rochester Hills, told police that he missed his school bus that morning and became lost in the Christian Hills neighborhood, so he rang the doorbell of a home belonging to Zeigler, a retired Detroit firefighter, to ask for directions.

According to Fox 2 Detroit, Zeigler believed the boy was trying to break into his house and that he stumbled, accidentally firing his gun. However, surveillance video shown to the jury Tuesday shows Walker standing at Zeiglers door, then running away as the homeowner chases him, stopping to carefully aim at the boy and fire his weapon. Walker was not wounded.

I said, Sir, can you point out to me where he charged your door, at what point was he a threat?' Pace told Judge Wendy Potts of the Oakland County Circuit Court, according to Fox 2 Detroit. I said he was standing four feet away with his hands in his pockets; he is not showing any aggressive manner. Hes been lying to me the whole time.

Pace continued, Mr. Ziegler at this point is just sitting there, and I said, You took aim at him. You know, sir, can you respect what I do and just admit that you aimed your weapon at this young man.

He took a big drink of water, he looked at me, and he said, Im tired of being a victim.'

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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/man-fired-shotgun-lost-black-boy-seeking-directions-says-hes-tired-victim-195312612.html


Good, fuck this lying piece of shit.
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Delirious_Beard
10/12/18 12:10:28 AM
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wHiTe gEnOcIdE
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LightningAce11
10/12/18 12:10:49 AM
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This sums up every issue his side has ever had in the past few years.
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Nufinzorz
10/12/18 12:12:14 AM
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RIP man fan shot up 14 year old
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bevan306
10/12/18 12:12:15 AM
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thronedfire2
10/12/18 12:14:36 AM
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what kind of moron does that and lies when he has a security camera?
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soulunison2
10/12/18 12:16:29 AM
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St0rmFury posted...

He took a big drink of water, he looked at me, and he said, Im tired of being a victim.'


yooooooooooooooooooooooo

I literally fucking just started laughing and woke up my dog
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Jswift254
10/12/18 12:18:03 AM
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I remember the topic that was made when this first happened. It was full of posts by dumbasses asking why the kid didn't know how to get to his school and saying maybe the kid was up to no good. Classic CE bullshit
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1NfamousACE_2
10/12/18 12:18:48 AM
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Can we wait for all the facts first?
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Webmaster4531
10/12/18 12:19:08 AM
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Conservatives: Unfair, homeowners should be able to kill for any reason and in the back.
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UnfairRepresent
10/12/18 12:23:27 AM
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LightningAce11 posted...
This sums up every issue his side has ever had in the past few years.


"Every" is hyperbole but a lot of them, yeah it really does.

"you're acussing me of doing a horrible thing!?"
"Well yeah because you're did."
"I'M A VICTIM!!"

Sad thing is... it works v_v
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Frolex
10/12/18 12:51:55 AM
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Jswift254 posted...
I remember the topic that was made when this first happened. It was full of posts by dumbasses asking why the kid didn't know how to get to his school and saying maybe the kid was up to no good. Classic CE bullshit


Yep. Admiral and the rest of the usual crop who are all equally "tired of being victims"
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Prestoff
10/12/18 12:54:40 AM
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Yeah poor man, that is one shotgun bullet he wasted. Poor poor guy.
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DarthDemented
10/12/18 1:14:12 AM
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Prestoff posted...
Yeah poor man, that is one shotgun bullet he wasted. Poor poor guy.

That's not how shotgun ammo works dude...
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teepan95
10/12/18 1:14:44 AM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
wHiTe gEnOcIdE

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---Devin---
10/12/18 3:32:39 AM
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teepan95 posted...
Delirious_Beard posted...
wHiTe gEnOcIdE

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Rika_Furude
10/12/18 3:54:17 AM
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Put the piece of shit in prison please
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Shotgunnova
10/12/18 3:57:03 AM
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According to Fox 2 Detroit, Zeigler believed the boy was trying to break into his house and that he stumbled, accidentally firing his gun. However, surveillance video shown to the jury Tuesday shows Walker standing at Zeiglers door, then running away as the homeowner chases him, stopping to carefully aim at the boy and fire his weapon.
Throw this moron in prison.
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ChainedRedone
10/12/18 4:07:49 AM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
wHiTe gEnOcIdE


@Awesome

If I don't tag him he won't bother posting in a topic about violence against black people. It's racism against whites that's the real problem.
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Irregardless
10/12/18 4:10:44 AM
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KStateKing17
10/12/18 4:34:02 AM
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The judge should order the whole court to laugh at him for a minute. Bitch ass lol.

Apparently the kid has a 4 mile trip from his home to the school. I wouldn't doubt that he might have been a bit confused about some of the streets.
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008Zulu
10/12/18 4:51:03 AM
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He is going to be tired of being the victim, in prison.
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 5:15:04 AM
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he should have said "I'm tired of being provoked"
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Prestoff
10/12/18 6:02:43 AM
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DarthDemented posted...
Prestoff posted...
Yeah poor man, that is one shotgun bullet he wasted. Poor poor guy.

That's not how shotgun ammo works dude...


I was being facetious
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Sonic23004
10/12/18 6:05:39 AM
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It was a symbolic shotgun.
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Fam_Fam
10/12/18 6:08:46 AM
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it might have been the case that he's been beaten up / bullied a lot, and was scared of it happening again.

so he fought back this time because he didn't want to be a victim in another situation
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pinky0926
10/12/18 6:09:20 AM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Delirious_Beard posted...
wHiTe gEnOcIdE


@Awesome

If I don't tag him he won't bother posting in a topic about violence against black people. It's racism against whites that's the real problem.


oh god is awesome about that nonsense too

Does he have a single opinion that's not total garbage
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:10:58 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
it might have been the case that he's been beaten up / bullied a lot, and was scared of it happening again.

so he fought back this time because he didn't want to be a victim in another situation

possible
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:12:18 AM
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why would he say he's tired of being a victim? he's probably been picked on his whole life
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Webmaster4531
10/12/18 6:12:21 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
it might have been the case that he's been beaten up / bullied a lot, and was scared of it happening again.

so he fought back this time because he didn't want to be a victim in another situation

However, surveillance video shown to the jury Tuesday shows Walker standing at Zeiglers door, then running away as the homeowner chases him, stopping to carefully aim at the boy and fire his weapon.

Then he just casually strolls back into his house.
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Funkydog
10/12/18 6:13:24 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
why would he say he's tired of being a victim? he's probably been picked on his whole life

Or he's a shitty person who sees imaginary slights when called out for being a dick like so many privileged people do.
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Rimmer_Dall
10/12/18 6:13:30 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
He took a big drink of water, he looked at me, and he said, Im tired of being a victim.'

Got good news for you then. >_>
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:13:34 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Then he just casually strolls back into his house.

what is this meme lol
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:14:52 AM
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Funkydog posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
why would he say he's tired of being a victim? he's probably been picked on his whole life

Or he's a shitty person who sees imaginary slights when called out for being a dick like so many privileged people do.

he's probably mentally ill and needs jesus
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pinky0926
10/12/18 6:15:40 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
it might have been the case that he's been beaten up / bullied a lot, and was scared of it happening again.

so he fought back this time because he didn't want to be a victim in another situation


Regardless of how bullied you've been, taking aim at someone running away from you who never expressed any signs of aggression in the first place is not "fighting back". It's calculated attempted murder.
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:16:39 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
it might have been the case that he's been beaten up / bullied a lot, and was scared of it happening again.

so he fought back this time because he didn't want to be a victim in another situation


Regardless of how bullied you've been, taking aim at someone running away from you who never expressed any signs of aggression in the first place is not "fighting back". It's calculated attempted murder.

well yes... but... I think the thing we all can agree on is we don't want things like this to happen in the future right
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Jswift254
10/12/18 6:23:58 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
it might have been the case that he's been beaten up / bullied a lot, and was scared of it happening again.

so he fought back this time because he didn't want to be a victim in another situation


Regardless of how bullied you've been, taking aim at someone running away from you who never expressed any signs of aggression in the first place is not "fighting back". It's calculated attempted murder.

well yes... but... I think the thing we all can agree on is we don't want things like this to happen in the future right

Having someone ask you for directions does kinda suck huh?
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:24:52 AM
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Jswift254 posted...
Having someone ask you for directions does kinda suck huh?

are you havin a giggle m8
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10/12/18 6:26:26 AM
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pinky0926
10/12/18 6:29:47 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
well yes... but... I think the thing we all can agree on is we don't want things like this to happen in the future right


Of course not, but there's a very Disney-esque assumption going on here, i.e. that maybe he's just a tragic guy who's had a hard life and snapped at the wrong person and the lesson here is to treat people with kindness and tolerance.

Maybe he's just a racist piece of shit and was looking for a reason to blow a hole in someone and "tired of being a victim" is his shitty dog-whistle.
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Webmaster4531
10/12/18 6:30:47 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Then he just casually strolls back into his house.

what is this meme lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdHIbz924Bc" data-time="

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EzeDoesIt
10/12/18 6:32:31 AM
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Maybe Im an idiot but can someone explain to me what meaning hes trying to convey by saying this? It almost seems like a non-sequitur. Or is he trying to justify his attack? I dont get it.
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Webmaster4531
10/12/18 6:35:32 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
Maybe Im an idiot but can someone explain to me what meaning hes trying to convey by saying this?

pinky0926 posted...
"tired of being a victim" is his shitty dog-whistle.

Delirious_Beard posted...
wHiTe gEnOcIdE

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Laserion
10/12/18 6:42:16 AM
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What did the wife say? I remember that it was she who opened the door and started screaming when she saw a black kid. Then the old guy came running with the shotgun.
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:47:59 AM
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I think the wife got him all worked up and he didn't even realize he was shooting a kid
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:49:28 AM
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like I think this guy is just really triggered with a helping of racism, but I don't think he's the type to just go out and kill black people
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Webmaster4531
10/12/18 6:49:48 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
I think the wife got him all worked up and he didn't even realize he was shooting a kid

Shooting an innocent Adult running away in the back isn't much better.
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:51:02 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
I think the wife got him all worked up and he didn't even realize he was shooting a kid

Shooting an innocent Adult running away in the back isn't much better.

if you feel like black people are "the enemy", even if they are running away doesn't really mean they aren't going to hurt you again like call for backup etc
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catboy0_0
10/12/18 6:53:11 AM
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he still should go to prison though probably lol
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