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GreatEvilEmpire 10/03/18 3:36:02 PM #1: |
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/christine-blasey-ford-testimony-polygraph-questions-rachel-mitchell/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/03/us/politics/blasey-ford-republicans-kavanaugh.html The full details of Dr. Fords polygraph are particularly important because the Senate Judiciary Committee has received a sworn statement from a longtime boyfriend of Dr. Fords, stating that he personally witnessed Dr. Ford coaching a friend on polygraph examinations. When asked under oath in the hearing whether shed ever given any tips or advice to someone who was planning on taking a polygraph, Dr. Ford replied, Never. This statement raises specific concerns about the reliability of her polygraph examination results, he continued. The Senate therefore needs this information. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 10/03/18 3:36:58 PM #2: |
"nationalreview" lol
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nemu 10/03/18 3:37:16 PM #3: |
Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk.
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X-Pac_Heat 10/03/18 3:37:52 PM #4: |
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RebelElite791 10/03/18 3:38:22 PM #5: |
Doom_Art posted...
"nationalreview" lol --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 10/03/18 3:38:45 PM #6: |
Is he willing to take a polygraph to confirm these accusations?
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Funkydog 10/03/18 3:40:21 PM #7: |
nemu posted...
Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 10/03/18 3:40:23 PM #8: |
He should identify as a women so everyone would have to believe him.
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Howl 10/03/18 3:40:42 PM #9: |
So Dr.Ford lied in her sworn testimony? Never in a million years would I have thought that to be the case.
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RebelElite791 10/03/18 3:41:25 PM #10: |
Howl posted...
So Dr.Ford lied in her sworn testimony? Never in a million years would I have thought that to be the case. So you use an article from the National Review of all places to confirm your previous bias, yet Kavanaugh repeatedly lying under oath you ignore :thinkingemoji: --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 10/03/18 3:41:26 PM #11: |
RebelElite791 posted...
Doom_Art posted..."nationalreview" lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 10/03/18 3:42:05 PM #12: |
Howl posted...
So Dr.Ford lied in her sworn testimony? Never in a million years would I have thought that to be the case. Which means, of course, that she's fit to be a Supreme Court Justice. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 10/03/18 3:42:14 PM #13: |
Doom_Art posted...
"nationalreview" lol It's also being reported by the NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/03/us/politics/blasey-ford-republicans-kavanaugh.html --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 10/03/18 3:44:58 PM #14: |
nemu posted...
Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeverOffended 10/03/18 3:48:04 PM #15: |
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Doom_Art posted..."nationalreview" lol huh, I wonder how they'll deflect that? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 10/03/18 3:54:47 PM #16: |
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
It's also being reported by the NYT I think it's disingenuous to refer to that as "coaching" for a polygraph In any case the person who was allegedly "coached" denies it, so meh. Given the GOPs behavior the last few weeks I'm inclined to say this is full of crap --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 10/03/18 4:00:33 PM #17: |
Doom_Art posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...It's also being reported by the NYT From the hearing: MITCHELL: Had have you ever given tips or advice to somebody who was looking to take a polygraph test? FORD: Never. Technically, she gave tips if what he is saying is true. Whether you call it "coaching" or something else, it doesn't matter. If what he said is true and he gave a sworn statement, then she is lying. He also mentioned that she never showed a fear of flying. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/03/18 4:06:01 PM #18: |
nemu posted...
Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk. Because they have no actual evidence the party happened, much less that a crime took place, much less that Kavanaugh is the perp. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/03/18 4:06:49 PM #19: |
Doom_Art posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...It's also being reported by the NYT 'FAKE NEWS!' indeed! --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 10/03/18 4:07:08 PM #20: |
Unless this claim has evidence, I'm going to assume it's false.
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ImTheMacheteGuy 10/03/18 4:13:21 PM #21: |
lol, so this is fake news. Good to know.
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Were_Wyrm 10/03/18 4:16:22 PM #22: |
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TheKentster 10/03/18 4:18:02 PM #23: |
Very interesting
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Bloodychess 10/03/18 4:21:01 PM #24: |
This black hole of hearsay won't stop expanding
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darkjedilink 10/03/18 4:25:05 PM #25: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
Unless this claim has evidence, I'm going to assume it's false. This. I'm not buying it, unless someone is willing to come forward and testify under oath that Ford coached them on beating a polygraph. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SwatterXX 10/03/18 4:33:29 PM #26: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
Unless this claim has evidence, I'm going to assume it's false. Devils advocate: you could say the same on Dr. Fords testimony because they don't have evidence. But I am 100% with you that an ex giving this info is to be taken with a grain of salt.. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 10/03/18 4:42:35 PM #27: |
I did make that argument, actually. The interviewing prosecutor noted that the story she told Congress was rather significantly different from the stories she told her therapist, the polygraph and her husband. That certainly isn't proof it's false, but it does raise suspicion.
I just think it's wrong to go after a rape accuser if you're not absolutely 100% certain they're lying. It sets a bad precedent. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 10/03/18 4:43:37 PM #28: |
why would her ex-boyfriend even be there. this makes zero sense
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darkjedilink 10/03/18 4:47:40 PM #29: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
I did make that argument, actually. The interviewing prosecutor noted that the story she told Congress was rather significantly different from the stories she told her therapist, the polygraph and her husband. That certainly isn't proof it's false, but it does raise suspicion. Our entire system of jurisprudence depends on the ability to face and interrogate the accuser. It's not 'wrong,' it's the only way to make sure the accusation is valid. Think about it - you just admitted that her story has changed four times. Why not 'go after' someone under that circumstance? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 10/03/18 4:48:58 PM #30: |
Think about it - you just admitted that her story has changed four times. Why not 'go after' someone under that circumstance? I think there's a very real possibility they could be false allegations. That's part of the reason why I support the FBI investigation. I also believe this benefit of the doubt applies to Kavanaugh, but this view appears to be not shared by others on this website. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rick-C137 10/03/18 4:50:23 PM #31: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
Unless this claim has evidence, I'm going to assume it's false. If only this kinda logic was applied to Ford accusing Kavanaugh --- Rickest Rick bro ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 10/03/18 4:51:50 PM #32: |
Rick-C137 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...Unless this claim has evidence, I'm going to assume it's false. except that's not even remotely similar in believability --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 10/03/18 4:53:22 PM #33: |
catboy0_0 posted...
Rick-C137 posted...Coffeebeanz posted...Unless this claim has evidence, I'm going to assume it's false. You're right. This story has 1 person named by the accuser denying that it happened. Ford's has 4. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 10/03/18 4:54:46 PM #34: |
s0nicfan posted...
You're right. This story has 1 person denying that it happened. Ford's has 4. no. I'm saying that the ex-boyfriend being there to "witness" her being coached is way more outlandish than the accusation from Ford against Kavanaugh --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 10/03/18 4:55:58 PM #35: |
catboy0_0 posted...
s0nicfan posted...You're right. This story has 1 person denying that it happened. Ford's has 4. "But the former boyfriend, whose name was redacted from a copy of the sworn statement provided by a person supporting Judge Kavanaughs confirmation to the Supreme Court, said that when they were together in the 1990s he saw Dr. Blasey use her understanding of psychology to assist her roommate of the time, Monica L. McLean, before interviews for possible positions with the F.B.I. or the United States Attorneys office that might require her to take a lie-detector test." A boyfriend being in the same room as his girlfriend while she helps her roommate with something isn't exactly outlandish. EDIT: To be clear, the timing and everything surrounding this is suspect, and ultimately irrelevant since whether she once helped a friend prepare for a polygraph is irrelevant to this case, especially since nobody is taking her own polygraph test seriously, but it's not exactly a crazy accusation. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 10/03/18 4:56:53 PM #36: |
s0nicfan posted...
A boyfriend being in the same room as his girlfriend while she helps her roommate with something isn't exactly outlandish. he's an ex-boyfriend though. are you saying they were dating and just NOW broke up? AFTER the polygraph? --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HiddenLurker 10/03/18 4:57:24 PM #37: |
nemu posted...
Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk. A sizable number of liberals used her taking and passing one as concrete proof that everything she said was true... --- [Insert tired meme here] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 10/03/18 4:57:33 PM #38: |
catboy0_0 posted...
s0nicfan posted...You're right. This story has 1 person denying that it happened. Ford's has 4. In a vacuum, I agree. However, I do find Ford's inability to give any pertinent details in her therapist notes, polygraph test, and previous discussions about the incident, somewhat unusual. That said, this sort of thing does happen with rape victims. It's often very hard to remember details of the event, because you're so traumatized. But to go from 0 details, including name and location, to being stunningly specific, is very unusual. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 10/03/18 4:58:41 PM #39: |
catboy0_0 posted...
s0nicfan posted...A boyfriend being in the same room as his girlfriend while she helps her roommate with something isn't exactly outlandish. Maybe you're misreading the story, but he's saying he saw her do it back when they were dating in college. Not that he saw her do it recently long after they had broken up. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 10/03/18 5:00:17 PM #40: |
s0nicfan posted...
catboy0_0 posted...s0nicfan posted...A boyfriend being in the same room as his girlfriend while she helps her roommate with something isn't exactly outlandish. ah okay nvm then. I guess it's possible --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 10/03/18 5:00:48 PM #41: |
Polygraphs are a joke anyway
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COVxy 10/03/18 5:01:23 PM #42: |
HiddenLurker posted...
nemu posted...Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk. I don't think I've seen any such thing said a single time on CE. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/03/18 5:04:36 PM #43: |
COVxy posted...
HiddenLurker posted...nemu posted...Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk. ledbowman has been parroting her polygraph as proof since the moment it was announced. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/03/18 5:06:51 PM #44: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
Accusers don't get 'benefit of the doubt' in any legal setting whatsoever... Why do you think rape accusers should? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToadallyAwesome 10/03/18 5:08:52 PM #45: |
Im pretty sure this story is from a Bot farm. Its the same kinda shit that happened during the election. Hard to prove but casts doubt on the specific person they want.
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Coffeebeanz 10/03/18 5:12:09 PM #46: |
darkjedilink posted...
Coffeebeanz posted... Because of the social stigma involved with trying to come out and admit you've been raped. The last thing we need is for people to think that they're more likely to be punished for coming out then they are to get justice. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rick-C137 10/03/18 5:14:00 PM #47: |
The last thing we need is for innocent people to be accused of rape
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SageHarpuia 10/03/18 5:14:33 PM #48: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
darkjedilink posted...Coffeebeanz posted... You don't get in trouble for making a claim you can't prove, you get in trouble for making a claim that's false. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/03/18 5:20:16 PM #49: |
darkjedilink posted...
ledbowman has been parroting her polygraph as proof since the moment it was announced. Well, I certainly haven't seen it. Would have commented if I did. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 10/03/18 6:17:50 PM #50: |
darkjedilink posted...
COVxy posted...HiddenLurker posted...nemu posted...Why are they even considering that in the first place? Polygraph tests are complete bunk. That's one user. One user is not "a sizable number." --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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