Current Events > timespinners turned out to be a pandering mess. thanks sjws. *spoilers*

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ModLogic
10/01/18 4:55:22 PM
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This thread is full of people downplaying whats in the game by using phrases like "a few gay characters" and "just one transgender character" and "only one quest about it." They've either not played the game or theyre trying to make a point and attack people by dishonestly representing the content in the game.

There are 6 characters (including the player character) at the 'home base.' Each of these characters is non-hetero and includes 3 gay males, 1 transgender MtF, an asexual female, and a bisexual female (who ends up dating the transgender character). There are 0 straight characters here.

Their sexuality doesn't play a role in the story whatsoever (include even being mentioned) until you do the side quests, which can be skipped if you don't want the achievement. Each of the five other characters have a chain of quests that start off mostly involving farming enemy drops and finding specific chests in the campaign. The quests fill in the back story and motivations of each individual character. As you get to the end of each character's quest chain, you start learning about their sexuality. When you complete all five characters' quest chains, you're given a fairly lengthy cut scene (it might be the longest cutscene in the game aside from the ending), where the characters site around a campfire talking about their sexuality and past relationships and so on. After that, another scene plays where the player character begins a relationship with the transgender character.


yikes. almost seems the main story was added in at the last minute
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Tyranthraxus
10/01/18 4:58:24 PM
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"My name is ModLogic and I'm incredibly invested and emotional about the sexual identity of 1.5 inch tall SNES pixel sprites."
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ProfessorKukui
10/01/18 4:59:36 PM
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Expected
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ModLogic
10/01/18 5:00:25 PM
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Coffeebeanz
10/01/18 5:00:29 PM
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Guaranteed perfect score at Kotaku, Polygon and Vox publications
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Womp_Womp
10/01/18 5:01:40 PM
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Why should anyone give a fuck
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MangaFan462
10/01/18 5:02:31 PM
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_Krave_
10/01/18 5:02:41 PM
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You guys are missing the point, it's fucking weird. Zero straight characters? Come on.
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ModLogic
10/01/18 5:03:13 PM
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Womp_Womp posted...
Why should anyone give a fuck

most people got mislead and didn't expect sjws to be shoved down their throat
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Jagermeister513
10/01/18 5:04:35 PM
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includes 3 gay males, 1 transgender MtF,


Oh, so 4 gay males.
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nemu
10/01/18 5:04:57 PM
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Eh, making the kind of game you want is fine. Make a game with six gay characters, six trans characters, six straight characters. As long as it's not being inserted into an existing franchise, I wouldn't really call it pandering. If the game sells well, good for them. If it doesn't sell well, then it may have to do with the ideological stance, or it could just be a bad game.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/01/18 5:06:28 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Guaranteed perfect score at Kotaku, Polygon and Vox publications

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Garioshi
10/01/18 5:06:58 PM
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...who the hell cares? It doesn't impact the quality of the game whatsoever.
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ModLogic
10/01/18 5:07:11 PM
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_Krave_ posted...
You guys are missing the point, it's fucking weird. Zero straight characters? Come on.

there is a straight character the main bad guy
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joestarrr
10/01/18 5:08:05 PM
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Garioshi posted...
...who the hell cares? It doesn't impact the quality of the game whatsoever.


You and I both know exactly who cares.
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Space_Man
10/01/18 5:09:00 PM
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who tf plays a game for story anyway

read a book
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Kitt
10/01/18 5:09:09 PM
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Goats posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
"My name is ModLogic and I'm incredibly invested and emotional about the sexual identity of 1.5 inch tall SNES pixel sprites donphan."

XD
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Questionmarktarius
10/01/18 5:09:11 PM
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Is the gameplay any good? Looks like a pretty blatant SOTN knockoff, with a hell of a lot more reading.
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Smashingpmkns
10/01/18 5:10:02 PM
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Dont see how this is a problem tbh.
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Garioshi
10/01/18 5:12:36 PM
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ModLogic posted...
_Krave_ posted...
You guys are missing the point, it's fucking weird. Zero straight characters? Come on.

there is a straight character the main bad guy

So is pretty much every other bad guy in every other game ever.
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myzz7
10/01/18 5:17:42 PM
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Everyone is either polyamerous, LGBT+ or both, unless they are a bad guy(as in male). This isn't even an exaggeration. Its like an episode of Friends: everyone is screwing everyone. They talk about this A LOT, i'm talking 25~50% of the text, or a good 75% if you only count conversations and don't count the story-text blurbs. A major plot point involves celebrating sperm-jacking, and has the gall to call the father the evil one in the situation. These plot points are completely unnecessary, and would be fine as a quirky addition, but when it takes up so much space, it really destroys the tone of an otherwise somber storyline. I think the game would have been more enjoyable if I avoided the sidequests completely (the reward was diving deeper into bad side-plot points and not much else).

yikes.
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bevan306
10/01/18 5:19:50 PM
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I finished it the other day, good game but way too short. Though I didn't finish the side quests
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ModLogic
10/01/18 5:29:03 PM
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Also the dialogues have been written by a feminist PR/propaganda company Silverstring Media connected to hucksters such as Anita Sarkeesian.

Edit: Source is the Silverstring Media website itself
See http://archive.is/S9RBt#selection-1033.94-1033.298


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AngelSeven
10/01/18 5:30:39 PM
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Who the hell cares?
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Solar_Crimson
10/01/18 5:31:49 PM
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>"Don't shoehorn these characters into existing franchises."
>"Also don't make your own original stuff with these characters."

So, do you just not want them to express their creative juices at all?
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Garioshi
10/01/18 5:35:15 PM
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TC literally getting his quotes off of /v/
WGIAqLb
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FLUFFYGERM
10/01/18 6:28:20 PM
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welp, guess im not buying sjwspinners
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Vicious_Dios
10/01/18 6:29:31 PM
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_Krave_ posted...
You guys are missing the point, it's fucking weird. Zero straight characters? Come on.

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Space_Man
10/01/18 6:30:20 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
>"Don't shoehorn these characters into existing franchises."
>"Also don't make your own original stuff with these characters."

So, do you just not want them to express their creative juices at all?

I want them to express their love juices.
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SweetieBelle462
10/01/18 6:30:27 PM
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Axiom
10/01/18 6:34:39 PM
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Garioshi posted...
TC literally getting his quotes off of /v/
WGIAqLb

It's tehdud. He just does low-effort trolling and has never been able to respond intelligently
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nemu
10/01/18 6:35:38 PM
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SweetieBelle462 posted...
CE trolls downplay the effects of SJWism yet again.

I'm confused. Was this a Kickstarter project that was falsely advertised or something? Like, this narrative is not my cup of tea, but this is an indie project the devs have full control over as far as I can tell. It will either flourish or die depending on how people react to it. Pandering problems come about from overly progressive people taking on existing franchises and shoving it full of their narrative, then calling people x-ist when they don't like the changes made.
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Tappor
10/01/18 6:35:58 PM
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Just make a thread about how le esjaydubbyas shit in your cereal this morning
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Esrac
10/01/18 6:42:03 PM
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Well, they can make the game they want, but I don't think this one is for me.
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bevan306
10/01/18 6:46:20 PM
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so has anyone else played it. The main story (not that there's much of it) has nothing to do with sexuality. Yeah the side quests are like, surprise, everyone's gay. But basically you're complaining because the side quests don't pander to straight people? The actual game is fun so meh your loss
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Solar_Crimson
10/01/18 6:47:38 PM
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bevan306 posted...
so has anyone else played it. The main story (not that there's much of it) has nothing to do with sexuality. Yeah the side quests are like, surprise, everyone's gay. But basically you're complaining because the side quests don't pander to straight people? The actual game is fun so meh your loss

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s0nicfan
10/01/18 6:48:56 PM
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bevan306 posted...
so has anyone else played it. The main story (not that there's much of it) has nothing to do with sexuality. Yeah the side quests are like, surprise, everyone's gay. But basically you're complaining because the side quests don't pander to straight people? The actual game is fun so meh your loss


This whole complaint is dumb (because it's an original IP and the devs can do whatever they want as long as they're not misleading people), but I'm pretty sure his complaint isn't that it's not pandering to straight people, but that there's an excess of sexuality in a metroidvania. It'd be like getting a guitar hero game only to find out that all the songs are about Jesus.
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bevan306
10/01/18 6:55:09 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
bevan306 posted...
so has anyone else played it. The main story (not that there's much of it) has nothing to do with sexuality. Yeah the side quests are like, surprise, everyone's gay. But basically you're complaining because the side quests don't pander to straight people? The actual game is fun so meh your loss


This whole complaint is dumb (because it's an original IP and the devs can do whatever they want as long as they're not misleading people), but I'm pretty sure his complaint isn't that it's not pandering to straight people, but that there's an excess of sexuality in a metroidvania. It'd be like getting a guitar hero game only to find out that all the songs are about Jesus.


would you complain about an "excess of sexuality" if all the characters in the sidequests were straight?
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s0nicfan
10/01/18 6:56:28 PM
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bevan306 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
bevan306 posted...
so has anyone else played it. The main story (not that there's much of it) has nothing to do with sexuality. Yeah the side quests are like, surprise, everyone's gay. But basically you're complaining because the side quests don't pander to straight people? The actual game is fun so meh your loss


This whole complaint is dumb (because it's an original IP and the devs can do whatever they want as long as they're not misleading people), but I'm pretty sure his complaint isn't that it's not pandering to straight people, but that there's an excess of sexuality in a metroidvania. It'd be like getting a guitar hero game only to find out that all the songs are about Jesus.


would you complain about an "excess of sexuality" if all the characters in the sidequests were straight?


If I was playing a metroidvania that wasn't marketed as having anything to do with sex and every side quest was about a character's sex life? Sure. It'd be weird and out of place. Can you name one?
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Tyranthraxus
10/01/18 7:01:01 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
If I was playing a metroidvania that wasn't marketed as having anything to do with sex and every side quest was about a character's sex life? Sure. It'd be weird and out of place. Can you name one?

Other M
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s0nicfan
10/01/18 7:03:32 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
s0nicfan posted...
If I was playing a metroidvania that wasn't marketed as having anything to do with sex and every side quest was about a character's sex life? Sure. It'd be weird and out of place. Can you name one?

Other M


Are you claiming that people didn't bitch endlessly about Other M's story?
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Tyranthraxus
10/01/18 7:04:31 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
s0nicfan posted...
If I was playing a metroidvania that wasn't marketed as having anything to do with sex and every side quest was about a character's sex life? Sure. It'd be weird and out of place. Can you name one?

Other M


Are you claiming that people didn't bitch endlessly about Other M's story?

They did.

But I never heard them use the words "pandering" or "sjw"
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MC_BatCommander
10/01/18 7:07:01 PM
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what is timespinners and why should I give a fuck
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10/01/18 7:07:03 PM
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YourDrunkFather
10/01/18 7:08:52 PM
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Esrac posted...
Well, they can make the game they want, but I don't think this one is for me.

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myzz7
10/01/18 7:26:33 PM
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bevan306 posted...
so has anyone else played it. The main story (not that there's much of it) has nothing to do with sexuality. Yeah the side quests are like, surprise, everyone's gay. But basically you're complaining because the side quests don't pander to straight people? The actual game is fun so meh your loss

its a 5 hour game with ever increasingly easy difficulty through level up progression in style of snes 16bit graphics metroidvania gameplay and the devs want $20 for it? yeah no. sans SJW nonsense aside, that's a crap deal.
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mustachedmystic
10/01/18 7:34:30 PM
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Not my cup of tea, but anything that sends ModLogic into a tizzy is OK in my book.
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bevan306
10/01/18 7:39:39 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
bevan306 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
bevan306 posted...
so has anyone else played it. The main story (not that there's much of it) has nothing to do with sexuality. Yeah the side quests are like, surprise, everyone's gay. But basically you're complaining because the side quests don't pander to straight people? The actual game is fun so meh your loss


This whole complaint is dumb (because it's an original IP and the devs can do whatever they want as long as they're not misleading people), but I'm pretty sure his complaint isn't that it's not pandering to straight people, but that there's an excess of sexuality in a metroidvania. It'd be like getting a guitar hero game only to find out that all the songs are about Jesus.


would you complain about an "excess of sexuality" if all the characters in the sidequests were straight?


If I was playing a metroidvania that wasn't marketed as having anything to do with sex and every side quest was about a character's sex life? Sure. It'd be weird and out of place. Can you name one?


yeah but the side quests aren't about their sex lives, not sure why you're assuming that. Some of the characters have romantic interests, like they do in many other games
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