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Hulkasaurusrex
09/28/18 10:36:17 AM
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Why cant bernie be on the supreme court
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Tyranthraxus
09/28/18 10:50:10 AM
#52:


Paragon21XX posted...
The vast majority of convictions that were made on witness testimony alone have been overturned

Fucking bullshit.

Prove it.
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darkjedilink
09/28/18 10:52:18 AM
#53:


Kineth posted...
DJL defending an alleged rapist. Hard to imagine why his wife left him.

You defended Clinton for years...
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SageHarpuia
09/28/18 10:52:55 AM
#54:


...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!
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Caution999
09/28/18 10:54:05 AM
#55:


SageHarpuia posted...
...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!


We're definitely the generation of "muh feelings"

Emotions drive us.
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The Great Muta 22
09/28/18 10:55:33 AM
#56:


Caution999 posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!


We're definitely the generation of "muh feelings"

Emotions drive us.


No one is being convicted of anything, this isn't a fucking trial. You guys really need to stop being so disingenuous all the fucking time
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Tyranthraxus
09/28/18 10:57:44 AM
#57:


SageHarpuia posted...
...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!


You don't convict anyone. A jury does. If a jury decides testimony is enough, then that's all they need.

And people get convicted on testimony alone all the time.

Or more accurately, testimony is given in defense, and the testimony is false, and the prosecution can prove something in the testimony is false, and that casts a huge shadow of doubt over the remainder of the defense's arguments.

"Devil's Triangle is a drinking game" is literally the kind of shit that gets people convicted IRL all the fucking time.
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The Great Muta 22
09/28/18 10:58:54 AM
#58:


Tyranthraxus posted...
"Devil's Triangle is a drinking game" is literally the kind of shit that gets people convicted IRL all the fucking time.


That was such a blatant lie and I'm pissed he wasn't pressed harder on it
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Coffeebeanz
09/28/18 11:00:52 AM
#59:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Caution999 posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!


We're definitely the generation of "muh feelings"

Emotions drive us.


No one is being convicted of anything, this isn't a fucking trial. You guys really need to stop being so disingenuous all the fucking time


Right, it's more of a "we're just making shit up as we go to stall for time" kind of thing.
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The Great Muta 22
09/28/18 11:02:04 AM
#60:


Coffeebeanz posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Caution999 posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!


We're definitely the generation of "muh feelings"

Emotions drive us.


No one is being convicted of anything, this isn't a fucking trial. You guys really need to stop being so disingenuous all the fucking time


Right, it's more of a "we're just making shit up as we go to stall for time" kind of thing.


Sure, it's all a Democratic conspiracy and these women are being paid to say these things and risking jail time. Sure thing Alex Jones
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Paragon21XX
09/28/18 11:12:45 AM
#61:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
The vast majority of convictions that were made on witness testimony alone have been overturned

Fucking bullshit.

Prove it.

I worded that wrong. I meant to say that the vast majority of overturned convictions were from cases where either all they had or their biggest piece of evidence was eye-witness testimony that was later contradicted by future discovered evidence such as DNA tests.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/12/the_exoneration_of_kash_register_and_the
_problem_of_false_eyewitness_testimony.html
And yet, according to Brandon Garrett, a law professor at the University of Virginia and the author of Convicting the Innocent, eyewitness misidentifications have played a leading role in nearly 75 percent of 250 convictions overturned by DNA evidence between 1989 and 2010.


If that's not enough to make you question the practice of using only testimony to convict someone in lieu of hard evidence, you should reconsider the meaning of justice.
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Tyranthraxus
09/28/18 11:19:45 AM
#62:


Paragon21XX posted...
I worded that wrong. I meant to say that the vast majority of overturned convictions were from cases where either all they had or their biggest piece of evidence was eye-witness testimony that was later contradicted by future discovered evidence such as DNA tests.


Lately DNA tests are proving to be super inaccurate because of mixed samples.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180924/18174740705/study-buried-four-years-shows-crime-lab-dna-testing-is-severely-flawed.shtml

I mean if you're going to hold up all evidence to word of god standards, lets be honest. The reason it takes so fucking long to execute someone on death row is because most of them are convicted on things like fingerprints, dna, hair, and so on, and that shit actually isn't reliable at all.

Paragon21XX posted...
If that's not enough to make you question the practice of using only testimony to convict someone in lieu of hard evidence, you should reconsider the meaning of justice.


I don't want to convict him on the sole basis of Ford's testimony, or the testimony of the other 3 accusers.

I just want an investigation. The DoJ can decide what to do after they've collected all evidence and testimony.
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scar the 1
09/28/18 11:21:18 AM
#63:


Coffeebeanz posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Caution999 posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!


We're definitely the generation of "muh feelings"

Emotions drive us.


No one is being convicted of anything, this isn't a fucking trial. You guys really need to stop being so disingenuous all the fucking time


Right, it's more of a "we're just making shit up as we go to stall for time" kind of thing.

You're the one making shit up.
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Paragon21XX
09/28/18 11:37:16 AM
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The DNA test with the high false positive rate is the one that tests only the Y-chromosome rather than the autosomal test which uses the whole genome which has only a one-in-a-billion chance of returning a false result.
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ultimate reaver
09/28/18 11:40:26 AM
#65:


tommy: i did not hit her. its not true. i did not hit her. i did not. oh hi mark

mark: welcome to the supreme court of the united states
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Tyranthraxus
09/28/18 11:42:25 AM
#66:


Paragon21XX posted...
The DNA test with the high false positive rate is the one that tests only the Y-chromosome rather than the autosomal test which uses the whole genome which has only a one-in-a-billion chance of returning a false result.


It's not necessarily that the test is wrong, it's that the sample is wrong.

I walk into mcdonalds and lean on the counter. Then I leave. 10 minutes later a guy comes in and shoots the cashier. And for whatever reason the cameras just weren't working that day. Police later come and arrest me claiming they have the murder weapon--a stolen gun--with my DNA on it, and they're not lying.
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ScazarMeltex
09/28/18 12:19:58 PM
#67:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
Kineth posted...
Maybe Republicans should have let Obama select his judicial nominee.

True, but maybe the dems should have had the fucking sack to fight over it, instead they did what the dems always do and roll over like spineless fucking worms. All it would have taken is for the dems to leave D.C. saying "we will do nothing until Merrick Garland is given a vote" Without a quorom nothing gets done and the government shuts down. Public opinion was already against the GOP over the issue so the dems could have won the fight if they weren't cowards.


Bullshit. There was quite literally nothing they could have done. What your proposing they should have done wouldn't have accomplished anything.

So once again Democrats are being blamed for Republicans being complete scumbags. What a fucking joke

No, I agree the republicans are scum. The democrats are also cowards. One does not negate the other.
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theAteam
09/28/18 12:31:38 PM
#68:


SageHarpuia posted...
...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!


Bill Cosby is sitting in a jail cell on witness testimony alone.
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Kineth
09/28/18 1:31:31 PM
#69:


darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...
DJL defending an alleged rapist. Hard to imagine why his wife left him.

You defended Clinton for years...


While this has nothing to do with what I said, I'll entertain this because I'm not sure what you're talking about. Which Clinton are you referring to? I assume Bill since he'd be slightly relevant to the discussion but then that'd be bullshit since I haven't done much defending of him here or anywhere in years. If it's Hillary, I'm still not sure what you're talking about as it'd be irrelevant and I haven't defended her much ever.
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Tupacrulez
09/28/18 1:37:08 PM
#70:


theAteam posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!


Bill Cosby is sitting in a jail cell on witness testimony alone.


Bill Cosby admitted to giving them Quaaludes. You don't get to just fuck someone after you fucking drugged them you nimnod.
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Tyranthraxus
09/28/18 3:25:45 PM
#71:


Tupacrulez posted...
theAteam posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
...you can't even convict someone without testimony, evidence, and (sometimes) a motive, are people seriously suggesting witness testimony alone is enough? This board is even more ridiculous than I thought!


Bill Cosby is sitting in a jail cell on witness testimony alone.


Bill Cosby admitted to giving them Quaaludes. You don't get to just fuck someone after you fucking drugged them you nimnod.


What Bill Cosby admitted to is meaningless. Donald Trump admitted to just going up to women and grabbing them by the pussy.

The fact remains is that Bill Cosby was convicted on just witness testimony, including his own testimony (he is still a witness to himself although he's not legally required to be) and Donald Trump, who admitted to THE SAME CRIME was convicted of nothing. R. Kelly, with actual hard video evidence was found not guilty because of contradictory witness testimony.
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Rebel_Patriot
09/28/18 7:02:20 PM
#72:


Kineth posted...
Maybe Republicans should have let Obama select his judicial nominee.

Its literally called the Biden rule. Since top dog democrat JOE BIDEN made an impassioned speech on how an outgoing president should not be allowed to pick a nominee. As usual democrats selfishly poor thought out notions eventually return to bite them in the ass. Just like the going nuclear simple vote majority option thats been sticking in the crawl of the left since Trump came in.
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darkmaian23
09/28/18 7:07:09 PM
#73:


ultimate reaver posted...
tommy: i did not hit her. its not true. i did not hit her. i did not. oh hi mark

mark: welcome to the supreme court of the united states

Your post wins the internet.
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EdgeMaster
09/28/18 7:07:14 PM
#74:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
The DNA test with the high false positive rate is the one that tests only the Y-chromosome rather than the autosomal test which uses the whole genome which has only a one-in-a-billion chance of returning a false result.


It's not necessarily that the test is wrong, it's that the sample is wrong.

I walk into mcdonalds and lean on the counter. Then I leave. 10 minutes later a guy comes in and shoots the cashier. And for whatever reason the cameras just weren't working that day. Police later come and arrest me claiming they have the murder weapon--a stolen gun--with my DNA on it, and they're not lying.


LOOOOOOL

what a piss poor attempt to suggest dna evidence is inaccurate. So many things wrong with this post.
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ZMythos
09/28/18 7:11:33 PM
#75:


Kav is gonna get fucked

Then Donny's gonna get jailed by Mueller

Then the Blue Tsunami obliterates the competition and flushes the swamp with a complete Trump Presidency annulment

Then we replace all of his cronies, crooks, colluders, criminals, and rapists with real progressives.
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loafy013
09/28/18 7:21:09 PM
#76:


Rebel_Patriot posted...
Kineth posted...
Maybe Republicans should have let Obama select his judicial nominee.

Its literally called the Biden rule. Since top dog democrat JOE BIDEN made an impassioned speech on how an outgoing president should not be allowed to pick a nominee. As usual democrats selfishly poor thought out notions eventually return to bite them in the ass. Just like the going nuclear simple vote majority option thats been sticking in the crawl of the left since Trump came in.

No, he said they should wait until after elections so it doesn't distract from them. It is pointless in any case, since it never happened until McConnell refused to even hold a hearing.
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eggcorn
09/28/18 7:21:57 PM
#77:


Nl6PvOG
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KingCrabCake
09/28/18 7:23:32 PM
#78:


This is a bad topic
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The Great Muta 22
09/28/18 7:25:43 PM
#79:


eggcorn posted...
Nl6PvOG


You follow something called "/pol/ news network"?

Lmao
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eggcorn
09/28/18 7:26:49 PM
#80:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
eggcorn posted...
Nl6PvOG


You follow something called "/pol/ news network"?

Lmao

I don't follow anything LMAO
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BLAKUboy
09/28/18 7:31:40 PM
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Alpha218
09/28/18 7:38:47 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
eggcorn posted...
Nl6PvOG


You follow something called "/pol/ news network"?

Lmao

I thought anonymous news was bad?!?
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Tyranthraxus
09/29/18 1:28:48 AM
#83:


EdgeMaster posted...
what a piss poor attempt to suggest dna evidence is inaccurate. So many things wrong with this post.

like what
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DragonMaster525
09/29/18 1:37:28 AM
#84:


Kineth posted...
Maybe Republicans should have let Obama select his judicial nominee.

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