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Deadpool_18 09/25/18 12:38:36 PM #1:	Institutionalized/systemic racism. Im getting sick and tired of morons saying you cant be racist towards white people when what they actually mean is that you cant be institutionally racist towards white people. Then they pull the the dictionary definition isnt accurate card like that means anything. Its accurate on a global scale. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:909420909] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>Institutionalized/systemic racism. Im getting sick and tired of morons saying you cant be racist towards white people when what they actually mean is that you cant be institutionally racist towards white people. Then they pull the the dictionary definition isnt accurate card like that means anything. Its accurate on a global scale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 09/25/18 12:41:14 PM #2:	There's just little to no value in talking about anecdotal evidence of how people with no power were racist towards you if it's not institutional/systematic. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:909421024] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>There's just little to no value in talking about anecdotal evidence of how people with no power were racist towards you if it's not institutional/systematic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 09/25/18 12:42:43 PM #3:	Anteaterking posted... There's just little to no value in talking about anecdotal evidence of how people with no power were racist towards you if it's not institutional/systematic. I agree, but Im a part of other forums and groups where people outright say things like Youre white. You dont get to have an opinion. Thats classic racism. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:909421102] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>There's just little to no value in talking about anecdotal evidence of how people with no power were racist towards you if it's not institutional/systematic.</quote> I agree, but Im a part of other forums and groups where people outright say things like Youre white. You dont get to have an opinion. Thats classic racism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 09/25/18 12:44:14 PM #4:	Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people." --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:909421184] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 09/25/18 12:45:17 PM #6:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people." Your anecdotal evidence is just that. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:909421224] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people."</quote> Your anecdotal evidence is just that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 09/25/18 12:45:53 PM #7:	Deadpool_18 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people." Your anecdotal evidence is just that. As is yours. Your point? --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:909421254] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people."</quote> Your anecdotal evidence is just that.</quote> As is yours. Your point?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 09/25/18 12:46:09 PM #8:	AssultTank posted... The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism... God damn... --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:909421271] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote>The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism...</quote> God damn...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/25/18 12:46:51 PM #9:	Deadpool_18 posted... Institutionalized/systemic racism. Im getting sick and tired of morons saying you cant be racist towards white people when what they actually mean is that you cant be institutionally racist towards white people. Then they pull the the dictionary definition isnt accurate card like that means anything. Its accurate on a global scale. South Africa. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:909421313] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>Institutionalized/systemic racism. Im getting sick and tired of morons saying you cant be racist towards white people when what they actually mean is that you cant be institutionally racist towards white people. Then they pull the the dictionary definition isnt accurate card like that means anything. Its accurate on a global scale.</quote> South Africa.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 09/25/18 12:47:40 PM #10:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Deadpool_18 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people." Your anecdotal evidence is just that. As is yours. Your point? Well youre the one whos trying to say the former never/rarely happens, as if its an issue that shouldnt be addressed. Stifling discussion is pretty much exactly what I was talking about. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:909421353] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people."</quote> Your anecdotal evidence is just that.</quote> As is yours. Your point?</quote> Well youre the one whos trying to say the former never/rarely happens, as if its an issue that shouldnt be addressed. Stifling discussion is pretty much exactly what I was talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 09/25/18 12:47:56 PM #11:	s0nicfan posted... Deadpool_18 posted... Institutionalized/systemic racism. Im getting sick and tired of morons saying you cant be racist towards white people when what they actually mean is that you cant be institutionally racist towards white people. Then they pull the the dictionary definition isnt accurate card like that means anything. Its accurate on a global scale. South Africa. China --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:909421367] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>Institutionalized/systemic racism. Im getting sick and tired of morons saying you cant be racist towards white people when what they actually mean is that you cant be institutionally racist towards white people. Then they pull the the dictionary definition isnt accurate card like that means anything. Its accurate on a global scale.</quote> South Africa.</quote> China</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 09/25/18 12:51:17 PM #12:	Deadpool_18 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Deadpool_18 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people." Your anecdotal evidence is just that. As is yours. Your point? Well youre the one whos trying to say the former never/rarely happens, as if its an issue that shouldnt be addressed. Stifling discussion is pretty much exactly what I was talking about. Please quotes the relevance text so that I can correct your misunderstanding. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:909421537] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Outside of Twitter and the like, I have literally never in my life heard anyone say you can't be racist against white people. Conversely, I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how many times I've heard people say they're sick of hearing "you can't be racist against white people."</quote> Your anecdotal evidence is just that.</quote> As is yours. Your point?</quote> Well youre the one whos trying to say the former never/rarely happens, as if its an issue that shouldnt be addressed. Stifling discussion is pretty much exactly what I was talking about.</quote> Please quotes the relevance text so that I can correct your misunderstanding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/25/18 12:52:40 PM #13:	AssultTank posted... The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism... what "slur for white people" are you talking about? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:909421606] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote>The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism...</quote> what "slur for white people" are you talking about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jukester 09/25/18 12:54:12 PM #14:	Deadpool_18 posted... I agree, but Im a part of other forums and groups where people outright say things like Youre white. You dont get to have an opinion. Meanwhile the actual white racists are enacting laws and systems to disallow people of color on a grand scale having no opinions that matter. So cry me a fucking river. Wah wah wah. --- "i am making Jerky that some day will be sold in every store in America Very few of you are good enough for my jerky" - krosser, Last of the great smu <cite>jukester posted [p:909421702] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree, but Im a part of other forums and groups where people outright say things like Youre white. You dont get to have an opinion.</quote> Meanwhile the actual white racists are enacting laws and systems to disallow people of color on a grand scale having no opinions that matter. So cry me a fucking river. Wah wah wah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 09/25/18 12:55:39 PM #15:	I've known plenty of people who are racist to various degrees, of various ethnicities. I don't think anybody with any intelligence claims that minorities can't be racist in their views or actions. It's simply that their actions, if racist, tend to have less widespread effects. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:909421777] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>I've known plenty of people who are racist to various degrees, of various ethnicities. I don't think anybody with any intelligence claims that minorities can't be racist in their views or actions. It's simply that their actions, if racist, tend to have less widespread effects.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 09/25/18 12:56:08 PM #16:	Anteaterking posted... There's just little to no value in talking about anecdotal evidence of how people with no power were racist towards you if it's not institutional/systematic. Exactly. It's not a large systematic problem since the system tends to punish those kinds of people in one way or another. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:909421793] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>There's just little to no value in talking about anecdotal evidence of how people with no power were racist towards you if it's not institutional/systematic.</quote> Exactly. It's not a large systematic problem since the system tends to punish those kinds of people in one way or another.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jukester 09/25/18 12:56:31 PM #18:	IloveJesus posted... I don't think anybody with any intelligence claims that minorities can't be racist in their views or actions You mean prejudiced. But it's okay, anybody with any intelligence would know the difference. --- "i am making Jerky that some day will be sold in every store in America Very few of you are good enough for my jerky" - krosser, Last of the great smu <cite>jukester posted [p:909421812] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote> I don't think anybody with any intelligence claims that minorities can't be racist in their views or actions</quote> You mean prejudiced. But it's okay, anybody with any intelligence would know the difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 09/25/18 12:56:39 PM #19:	Let's just say "race-prejudist" instead. --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". <cite>Laserion posted [p:909421820] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>Let's just say "race-prejudist" instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 09/25/18 12:57:02 PM #20:	i remember that video showing a girl saying " black can be racist too" i think she asian as soon as she said those words people did everthing they could to silence her --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:909421837] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>i remember that video showing a girl saying " black can be racist too" i think she asian as soon as she said those words people did everthing they could to silence her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Herugrim 09/25/18 12:57:02 PM #21:	Doesn't help that there is no such thing as systemic(etc...) racism. The implication that black people serve longer prison sentences because of internalized racism is fallacious. Inner cities are sources of the highest crime rates and they are largely populated by people of color, resulting in many of them being repeat offenders. The theory doesn't take criminal history into account. It also doesn't account for the fact that the majority of prisoners in the united states are white, as are the majority of the homeless and the unemployed. White people are both making the most money, and making the least. It is because they are the majority, not because of 'implied' racism. Systemic racism was a concept invented by the equality of outcome crowd, people who intentionally ignore specific sets of correlating data to get their desired outcome rather than a factual one. The same crowd that insist there's a wage gap by intentionally omitting data about how many hours women work on average or what line of work they are in. The same group that claims there's a pink tax while completely ignoring that feminine products are made out of different materials (generally more expensive) than masculine products. --- John Watson: "Well it isn't obvious to me." Sherlock Holmes: "The world is full of obvious things that nobody notices." <cite>Herugrim posted [p:909421840] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>Doesn't help that there is no such thing as systemic(etc...) racism. The implication that black people serve longer prison sentences because of internalized racism is fallacious. Inner cities are sources of the highest crime rates and they are largely populated by people of color, resulting in many of them being repeat offenders. The theory doesn't take criminal history into account. It also doesn't account for the fact that the majority of prisoners in the united states are white, as are the majority of the homeless and the unemployed. White people are both making the most money, and making the least. It is because they are the majority, not because of 'implied' racism. Systemic racism was a concept invented by the equality of outcome crowd, people who intentionally ignore specific sets of correlating data to get their desired outcome rather than a factual one. The same crowd that insist there's a wage gap by intentionally omitting data about how many hours women work on average or what line of work they are in. The same group that claims there's a pink tax while completely ignoring that feminine products are made out of different materials (generally more expensive) than masculine products.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 09/25/18 12:58:38 PM #22:	There is a gay white guy at work that just absolutely hates white people. About three weeks ago a black woman got mad at him and called him all sorts of names, homophobic and racial. He said he was so mad he wanted to cry and then goes on to say it's ok because black people can't racist or hateful and it doesn't mean the same thing as when a white person does it. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:909421921] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>There is a gay white guy at work that just absolutely hates white people. About three weeks ago a black woman got mad at him and called him all sorts of names, homophobic and racial. He said he was so mad he wanted to cry and then goes on to say it's ok because black people can't racist or hateful and it doesn't mean the same thing as when a white person does it. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/25/18 12:59:14 PM #23:	well obviously. you can be racist against any race, regardless of what some idiots with an agenda believe. always thought that whole argument about how "it's not racism, it's prejudice" was a load of bs. dunno why it's even an argument. when racism happens against white people, it doesn't discount racism against other groups, so I don't see the issue in admitting racism is possible against any race --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:909421956] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>well obviously. you can be racist against any race, regardless of what some idiots with an agenda believe. always thought that whole argument about how "it's not racism, it's prejudice" was a load of bs. dunno why it's even an argument. when racism happens against white people, it doesn't discount racism against other groups, so I don't see the issue in admitting racism is possible against any race</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/25/18 1:00:12 PM #24:	marc55 posted... i remember that video showing a girl saying " black can be racist too" i think she asian as soon as she said those words people did everthing they could to silence her Yea that video made me mad <cite>Zikten posted [p:909422014] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>i remember that video showing a girl saying " black can be racist too" i think she asian as soon as she said those words people did everthing they could to silence her</quote> Yea that video made me mad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 09/25/18 1:01:02 PM #25:	I do find it funny that the CEmen who are most likely to say "Racism doesn't really exist in 2018" are also the ones who think that "Someone called me white boy on the street" is evidence that everyone experiences meaningful racism. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:909422055] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>I do find it funny that the CEmen who are most likely to say "Racism doesn't really exist in 2018" are also the ones who think that "Someone called me white boy on the street" is evidence that everyone experiences meaningful racism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/25/18 1:01:53 PM #26:	Conflict posted... Uh oh, averagejoel is here Here we go. hello --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:909422095] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Uh oh, averagejoel is here Here we go.</quote> hello</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 09/25/18 1:02:25 PM #27:	Anteaterking posted... I do find it funny that the CEmen who are most likely to say "Racism doesn't really exist in 2018" are also the ones who think that "Someone called me white boy on the street" is evidence that everyone experiences meaningful racism. "your racism wasn't as bad as my racism so it doesn't count!" What a dumb fucking post --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:909422130] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>I do find it funny that the CEmen who are most likely to say "Racism doesn't really exist in 2018" are also the ones who think that "Someone called me white boy on the street" is evidence that everyone experiences meaningful racism.</quote> "your racism wasn't as bad as my racism so it doesn't count!" What a dumb fucking post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 09/25/18 1:13:06 PM #28:	glitteringfairy posted... "your racism wasn't as bad as my racism so it doesn't count!" Where did I say this? I'm not the one saying racism doesn't exist today. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:909422670] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>"your racism wasn't as bad as my racism so it doesn't count!"</quote> Where did I say this? I'm not the one saying racism doesn't exist today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 09/25/18 1:14:32 PM #29:	Anteaterking posted... glitteringfairy posted... "your racism wasn't as bad as my racism so it doesn't count!" Where did I say this? I'm not the one saying racism doesn't exist today. That's the way I read it I guess. Racism is racism whether it's white boy/cracker whatever or the N word --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:909422743] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>"your racism wasn't as bad as my racism so it doesn't count!"</quote> Where did I say this? I'm not the one saying racism doesn't exist today.</quote> That's the way I read it I guess. Racism is racism whether it's white boy/cracker whatever or the N word</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 09/25/18 1:19:46 PM #30:	I constantly see racism fought with racism. It does nothing or makes it worse. Racism cant only be white towards black or no one will care. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:909423035] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote>I constantly see racism fought with racism. It does nothing or makes it worse. Racism cant only be white towards black or no one will care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 09/25/18 1:22:36 PM #31:	IloveJesus posted... I've known plenty of people who are racist to various degrees, of various ethnicities. I don't think anybody with any intelligence claims that minorities can't be racist in their views or actions. It's simply that their actions, if racist, tend to have less widespread effects. Yeah, with the caveat that this is true for America/Europe --- I use Gameraven and you should too. #heavilyburntpotato <cite>teepan95 posted [p:909423170] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>I've known plenty of people who are racist to various degrees, of various ethnicities. I don't think anybody with any intelligence claims that minorities can't be racist in their views or actions. It's simply that their actions, if racist, tend to have less widespread effects.</quote> Yeah, with the caveat that this is true for America/Europe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/25/18 1:36:37 PM #33:	AssultTank posted... averagejoel posted... AssultTank posted... The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism... what "slur for white people" are you talking about? I'm not posting racial slurs... But mostly they used the c slur. "cracker" is not a racial slur --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:909423983] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote>The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism...</quote> what "slur for white people" are you talking about?</quote> I'm not posting racial slurs... But mostly they used the c slur.</quote> "cracker" is not a racial slur</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 09/25/18 1:40:12 PM #34:	averagejoel posted... AssultTank posted... averagejoel posted... AssultTank posted... The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism... what "slur for white people" are you talking about? I'm not posting racial slurs... But mostly they used the c slur. "cracker" is not a racial slur Yes it is. --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:909424156] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote>The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism...</quote> what "slur for white people" are you talking about?</quote> I'm not posting racial slurs... But mostly they used the c slur.</quote> "cracker" is not a racial slur</quote> Yes it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 09/25/18 1:41:52 PM #36:	averagejoel posted... "cracker" is not a racial slur It absolutely is, it's just not a particularly potent one. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:909424242] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>"cracker" is not a racial slur</quote> It absolutely is, it's just not a particularly potent one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/25/18 1:42:40 PM #37:	Conflict posted... What is your definition of a racial slur if white people supposedly don't have any, joel I already know that you won't listen to me regardless of what I say, so I'm just going to skip straight to telling you to look up the history of the word, because that's the most productive use of my time. thank you and have a nice day. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:909424283] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>What is your definition of a racial slur if white people supposedly don't have any, joel</quote> I already know that you won't listen to me regardless of what I say, so I'm just going to skip straight to telling you to look up the history of the word, because that's the most productive use of my time. thank you and have a nice day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 09/25/18 1:44:09 PM #38:	AssultTank posted... The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism... Honestly fascinating how your story has gone from I was bullied by black kids and one hit me to i was held diwn, beat, and called racial slurs over the years. I guess when people told you it was a bad excuse for some of your own beliefs you had to spruce up the story a bit --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:909424379] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>AssultTank posted...</cite> <quote>The problem is that they're trying to apply that sociological definition to individuals in order to discount any racism experienced by the majority. Minorities being racist hurts their narrative, so they define racism in a way that minorities can't be racist, and then shout and drown out any opposing views. I've literally been told that being held down and beat while my abusers were shouting "fuck the (slur for white people)" was not an example of racism...</quote> Honestly fascinating how your story has gone from I was bullied by black kids and one hit me to i was held diwn, beat, and called racial slurs over the years. I guess when people told you it was a bad excuse for some of your own beliefs you had to spruce up the story a bit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/25/18 1:46:04 PM #39:	TrevorBlack79 posted... averagejoel posted... "cracker" is not a racial slur It absolutely is, it's just not a particularly potent one. etymologically speaking, it's actually more of a class-based slur --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:909424488] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>"cracker" is not a racial slur</quote> It absolutely is, it's just not a particularly potent one.</quote> etymologically speaking, it's actually more of a class-based slur</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/25/18 1:49:23 PM #41:	Conflict posted... averagejoel posted... Conflict posted... What is your definition of a racial slur if white people supposedly don't have any, joel I already know that you won't listen to me regardless of what I say, so I'm just going to skip straight to telling you to look up the history of the word, because that's the most productive use of my time. thank you and have a nice day. I'm not going to do your research for you lmao tf. You claim it's not a racial slur and that white people don't have any slurs, you back up that claim with your own citations. Maybe your inability to support your own outlandish claims are why people here don't listen to you or maybe I already know the way people operate on here and don't want to waste my time on people who have already made up their mind and will dismiss anything I say by calling anyone I cite a "SJW cuck" --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:909424699] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>What is your definition of a racial slur if white people supposedly don't have any, joel</quote> I already know that you won't listen to me regardless of what I say, so I'm just going to skip straight to telling you to look up the history of the word, because that's the most productive use of my time. thank you and have a nice day.</quote> I'm not going to do your research for you lmao tf. You claim it's not a racial slur and that white people don't have any slurs, you back up that claim with your own citations. Maybe your inability to support your own outlandish claims are why people here don't listen to you</quote> or maybe I already know the way people operate on here and don't want to waste my time on people who have already made up their mind and will dismiss anything I say by calling anyone I cite a "SJW cuck"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/25/18 2:02:35 PM #43:	Conflict posted... Lol I'm not even close to the type of person that would unironically say "SJW cuck". fine it was originally used by wealthy people as a pejorative for poor people. it might have come from the Middle English "crak" or "craic", meaning "loud conversation" (it's related to how you might "crack" a joke, and "craic" is still used in Ireland and Scotland) some slaves in the US south referred to their white foremen as "crackers" because of the way they would "crack" their whip --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:909425481] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Lol I'm not even close to the type of person that would unironically say "SJW cuck".</quote> fine it was originally used by wealthy people as a pejorative for poor people. it might have come from the Middle English "crak" or "craic", meaning "loud conversation" (it's related to how you might "crack" a joke, and "craic" is still used in Ireland and Scotland) some slaves in the US south referred to their white foremen as "crackers" because of the way they would "crack" their whip</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 09/25/18 2:03:27 PM #44:	averagejoel posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... averagejoel posted... "cracker" is not a racial slur It absolutely is, it's just not a particularly potent one. etymologically speaking, it's actually more of a class-based slur Context and modern use are more relevant than etymology in determining when a word is used as a slur. In the modern context, the word is only used against people of a particular race, and only disparagingly in that context. That indisputably makes it a racial slur. That said, the one and only time someone called me a "cracker" I laughed my ass off for how ridiculous it sounded. Same with "white bread." --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:909425537] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>"cracker" is not a racial slur</quote> It absolutely is, it's just not a particularly potent one.</quote> etymologically speaking, it's actually more of a class-based slur</quote> Context and modern use are more relevant than etymology in determining when a word is used as a slur. In the modern context, the word is only used against people of a particular race, and only disparagingly in that context. That indisputably makes it a racial slur. That said, the one and only time someone called me a "cracker" I laughed my ass off for how ridiculous it sounded. Same with "white bread."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IloveJesus 09/25/18 2:16:10 PM #46:	averagejoel posted... craic" is still used in Ireland and Scotland) And England and Wales... --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:909426202] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>craic" is still used in Ireland and Scotland)</quote> And England and Wales...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaithSayer 09/25/18 2:19:16 PM #47:	Deadpool_18 posted... Anteaterking posted... There's just little to no value in talking about anecdotal evidence of how people with no power were racist towards you if it's not institutional/systematic. I agree, but Im a part of other forums and groups where people outright say things like Youre white. You dont get to have an opinion. Thats classic racism. True enough but not every fight is ours. Do we really have to get in the middle of everything? And it's also a bonus when someone tells you some stupid shit like that. It lets you know you can cut them out of your life or at least not take anything they say seriously ever again. <cite>SaithSayer posted [p:909426393] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>There's just little to no value in talking about anecdotal evidence of how people with no power were racist towards you if it's not institutional/systematic.</quote> I agree, but Im a part of other forums and groups where people outright say things like Youre white. You dont get to have an opinion. Thats classic racism.</quote> True enough but not every fight is ours. Do we really have to get in the middle of everything? And it's also a bonus when someone tells you some stupid shit like that. It lets you know you can cut them out of your life or at least not take anything they say seriously ever again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/25/18 2:21:39 PM #48:	IloveJesus posted... averagejoel posted... craic" is still used in Ireland and Scotland) And England and Wales... ok --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:909426525] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>craic" is still used in Ireland and Scotland)</quote> And England and Wales...</quote> ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 09/25/18 4:15:10 PM #49:	jukester posted... Deadpool_18 posted... I agree, but Im a part of other forums and groups where people outright say things like Youre white. You dont get to have an opinion. Meanwhile the actual white racists are enacting laws and systems to disallow people of color on a grand scale having no opinions that matter. So cry me a fucking river. Wah wah wah. Right here is what Im talking about. I never said it was directed at me or that it was on the same scale as institutionalized racism. Try again. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:909433053] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>jukester posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree, but Im a part of other forums and groups where people outright say things like Youre white. You dont get to have an opinion.</quote> Meanwhile the actual white racists are enacting laws and systems to disallow people of color on a grand scale having no opinions that matter. So cry me a fucking river. Wah wah wah.</quote> Right here is what Im talking about. I never said it was directed at me or that it was on the same scale as institutionalized racism. Try again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 09/25/18 4:26:54 PM #51:	jukester posted... IloveJesus posted... I don't think anybody with any intelligence claims that minorities can't be racist in their views or actions You mean prejudiced. But it's okay, anybody with any intelligence would know the difference. Youre exactly the person this topic is about. Go figure lol. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:909433671] in Too many p... [t:77038831]...</cite> <quote><cite>jukester posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote> I don't think anybody with any intelligence claims that minorities can't be racist in their views or actions</quote> You mean prejudiced. But it's okay, anybody with any intelligence would know the difference.</quote> Youre exactly the person this topic is about. Go figure lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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