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Roshon
09/15/18 5:23:29 PM
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A US Border Patrol agent was taken into custody in Texas on Saturday morning in connection with the killings of four people and aggravated kidnapping, according to Webb County Sheriff Martin Cuellar.
The agent was identified as Juan David Ortiz, 35.

The bodies of three females and one male were found over the last two weeks, sheriff's spokesperson Eduardo Chapa told CNN.

"This case broke open yesterday with an aggravated kidnapping and then a lookout for a suspect, in this case Ortiz," said Isidro R. "Chilo" Alaniz, Webb County district attorney.

A fifth person, a female who was the victim in the alleged kidnapping, was able to escape and contacted authorities, providing a description of the suspect -- including a vehicle, a white Dodge truck, authorities said. The victim was "battling for survival" and had a gun pulled on her during the attempted kidnapping, according to Chapa.

Ortiz, Chapa said, was picked up in the early hours along Interstate 35 in Laredo.

"We have very strong evidence that he is the person who has been killing," Sheriff Cuellar said at a press conference posted on CNN affiliate KGNS's Facebook page.

Alaniz said officials will be looking at "potentially four charges of murder and aggravated kidnapping."

CNN reached out to US Customs and Border Protection, which had no immediate comment. It was not immediately known whether Ortiz has an attorney.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/15/us/us-border-patrol-agent-arrested-slayings/index.html
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glitteringfairy
09/15/18 5:29:23 PM
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How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster
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Antifar
09/15/18 5:29:46 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster

Fuck off with this racist bullshit.
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Fam_Fam
09/15/18 5:30:06 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster


why did you capitalize and bold his name?
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glitteringfairy
09/15/18 5:31:04 PM
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Antifar posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster

Fuck off with this racist bullshit.

I didn't say anything racist bro
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Antifar
09/15/18 5:32:05 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Antifar posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster

Fuck off with this racist bullshit.

I didn't say anything racist bro

You aren't as stupid as you are pretending to be.
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Bishop9800
09/15/18 5:32:27 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Antifar posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster

Fuck off with this racist bullshit.

I didn't say anything racist bro


Keep thinking that
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Bio1590
09/15/18 5:32:29 PM
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Was this related to his job or not?
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Hawaiian_punch
09/15/18 5:32:47 PM
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Never go full MAGA.
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Hawaiian_punch
09/15/18 5:36:37 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster


Breh, we know what youre trying to get to.

But sometimes the most racist people are the ones who managed to be considered one of the good ones.

The Booker DeWitt trope (rumored to have some Native American blood, so he massacred native Americans to prove he is a real (white) American) is a trope for a reason.

The black butler in Django is another example.

This JUAN ORTIZ guy also felt he had to prove he is a real (white) American so he joined the patrol so he could literally track down and kill people that look like him, he is trying to go full MAGA.
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glitteringfairy
09/15/18 5:38:21 PM
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Hawaiian_punch posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster


Breh, we know what youre trying to get to.

But sometimes the most racist people are the ones who managed to be considered one of the good ones.

The Booker DeWitt trope (rumored to have some Native American blood, so he massacred native Americans to prove he is a real (white) American) is a trope for a reason.

The black butler in Django is another example.

This JUAN ORTIZ guy also felt he had to prove he is a real (white) American so he joined the patrol so he could literally track down and kill people that look like him, he is trying to go full MAGA.

This is a very real possibility. He could be a white Hispanic, that's actually a thing as the media has said before. We just don't have all the facts right now
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eston
09/15/18 5:41:01 PM
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E32005
09/15/18 5:44:20 PM
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P4wn4g3
09/15/18 5:46:53 PM
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Thats your average border patrol agent for you.
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Oatcakes
09/15/18 5:49:17 PM
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Guys, you can't call it racist because it's veiled!!
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Antifar
09/15/18 5:50:26 PM
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Oatcakes posted...
Guys, you can't call it racist because it's veiled!!

It's not even veiled
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glitteringfairy
09/15/18 5:56:06 PM
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Antifar posted...
Oatcakes posted...
Guys, you can't call it racist because it's veiled!!

It's not even veiled

I said nothing racis
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CelestialVoices
09/15/18 5:56:54 PM
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juan DAVID ortiz
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Hawaiian_punch
09/15/18 6:15:23 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster


Breh, we know what youre trying to get to.

But sometimes the most racist people are the ones who managed to be considered one of the good ones.

The Booker DeWitt trope (rumored to have some Native American blood, so he massacred native Americans to prove he is a real (white) American) is a trope for a reason.

The black butler in Django is another example.

This JUAN ORTIZ guy also felt he had to prove he is a real (white) American so he joined the patrol so he could literally track down and kill people that look like him, he is trying to go full MAGA.

This is a very real possibility. He could be a white Hispanic, that's actually a thing as the media has said before. We just don't have all the facts right now


Whats a white hispnic bud? I thought it was just some bs made to fan the flames of the treyvon vs Zimmerman thing

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EmeralDragon23
09/15/18 6:27:12 PM
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Most Hispanics are white Hispanics if they're not descended from the natives of their regions.

Since, you know, those countries were colonized by Spain/Portugal.
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P4wn4g3
09/15/18 6:28:19 PM
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MIASu
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Hawaiian_punch
09/15/18 6:41:00 PM
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EmeralDragon23 posted...
Most Hispanics are white Hispanics if they're not descended from the natives of their regions.

Since, you know, those countries were colonized by Spain/Portugal.


But I meant Latin American white hispanics, sorry.

You cant tell without a ancstry dna test? What % is still acceptable anyway ?
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Antifar
09/15/18 6:52:03 PM
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Hawaiian_punch posted...
EmeralDragon23 posted...
Most Hispanics are white Hispanics if they're not descended from the natives of their regions.

Since, you know, those countries were colonized by Spain/Portugal.


But I meant Latin American white hispanics, sorry.

You cant tell without a ancstry dna test? What % is still acceptable anyway ?

Race is not about genetic percentages
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EmeralDragon23
09/15/18 8:39:24 PM
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Hawaiian_punch posted...
EmeralDragon23 posted...
Most Hispanics are white Hispanics if they're not descended from the natives of their regions.

Since, you know, those countries were colonized by Spain/Portugal.


But I meant Latin American white hispanics, sorry.

You cant tell without a ancstry dna test? What % is still acceptable anyway ?

Bro idk

I'm from South America and I have to put "White" on the race portion every time because Hispanic is a separate ethnicity.

I don't like it, I'm the furthest thing from white, but...yeah, that's how it works.
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Hawaiian_punch
09/16/18 1:27:58 AM
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EmeralDragon23 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
EmeralDragon23 posted...
Most Hispanics are white Hispanics if they're not descended from the natives of their regions.

Since, you know, those countries were colonized by Spain/Portugal.


But I meant Latin American white hispanics, sorry.

You cant tell without a ancstry dna test? What % is still acceptable anyway ?

Bro idk

I'm from South America and I have to put "White" on the race portion every time because Hispanic is a separate ethnicity.

I don't like it, I'm the furthest thing from white, but...yeah, that's how it works.


Itd be cool if you could also get the privileges that come with being white, but you dont. Not fair :/
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Hawaiian_punch
09/16/18 1:28:20 AM
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Antifar posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
EmeralDragon23 posted...
Most Hispanics are white Hispanics if they're not descended from the natives of their regions.

Since, you know, those countries were colonized by Spain/Portugal.


But I meant Latin American white hispanics, sorry.

You cant tell without a ancstry dna test? What % is still acceptable anyway ?

Race is not about genetic percentages


What is it about then?
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Bloodychess
09/16/18 1:32:36 AM
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Cant help but wonder if he had a connection to the cartels
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Hawaiian_punch
09/16/18 1:45:40 AM
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Bloodychess posted...
Cant help but wonder if he had a connection to the GOP


Fixed
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Bio1590
09/16/18 2:11:09 AM
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So this guy was a serial killer targeting sex workers, who just happened to be a border patrol agent.

That is not a good look.
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VipaGTS
09/16/18 2:20:07 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Antifar posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster

Fuck off with this racist bullshit.

I didn't say anything racist bro

you're a POS
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MARKINGRAM22
09/16/18 2:24:25 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
How could JUAN ORTIZ do something like this? It's awful. What a monster


Breh, we know what youre trying to get to.

But sometimes the most racist people are the ones who managed to be considered one of the good ones.

The Booker DeWitt trope (rumored to have some Native American blood, so he massacred native Americans to prove he is a real (white) American) is a trope for a reason.

The black butler in Django is another example.

This JUAN ORTIZ guy also felt he had to prove he is a real (white) American so he joined the patrol so he could literally track down and kill people that look like him, he is trying to go full MAGA.

This is a very real possibility. He could be a white Hispanic, that's actually a thing as the media has said before. We just don't have all the facts right now


This is so fucking ignorant. I love the as the media said before to show how much of a racist ignorant mindless tool bag you are.
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MARKINGRAM22
09/16/18 2:26:01 AM
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Hawaiian_punch posted...
EmeralDragon23 posted...
Most Hispanics are white Hispanics if they're not descended from the natives of their regions.

Since, you know, those countries were colonized by Spain/Portugal.


But I meant Latin American white hispanics, sorry.

You cant tell without a ancstry dna test? What % is still acceptable anyway ?


Ughhhh
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MARKINGRAM22
09/16/18 2:30:09 AM
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I like how you idiots think it must be that he loves the white race like a cartoon character played by Samuel l Jackson and was doing it to honor his white masters, and not that he is a crazy psycho, or that him being a white hispanic would then mean it is more likely. Cause we know in Central America there is only the few pure Caucasian Latinos killing every mestizo and Indio person and violent crime outside of that.
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Back_Stabbath
09/16/18 3:42:03 AM
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lol second post thought he was being sly but got suspended anyway
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Antifar
09/16/18 8:06:21 AM
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Hawaiian_punch posted...
Race is not about genetic percentages

What is it about then?

Politics and perception.

Compare the US to Brazil: both countries had large populations of African slaves. But in the US, we have famously practiced the "one drop rule," whereby anybody with even a black great-grandfather was considered black. Obama, the son of a black man and white woman, is black by basically everybody's understanding. Brazil, on the other hand, maintains a census category of "brown," wherein people of mixed-ancestry are basically considered, well, mixed. And informally, this gets broken down into many more subcategories.

Those differences aren't because of a different understanding of genetics. They're because race is a social construct.
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Bloodychess
09/16/18 9:19:44 AM
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Hawaiian_punch posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Cant help but wonder if he had a connection to the GOP


Fixed

I can tell thats what you really want to happen but you need to keep the imagination in check here
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Hawaiian_punch
09/16/18 9:22:12 AM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
I like how you idiots think it must be that he loves the white race like a cartoon character played by Samuel l Jackson and was doing it to honor his white masters, and not that he is a crazy psycho, or that him being a white hispanic would then mean it is more likely. Cause we know in Central America there is only the few pure Caucasian Latinos killing every mestizo and Indio person and violent crime outside of that.


I am not even sure of the point youre trying to make.
I am not being sarcastic. Try re-posting this is non-triggered English @MARKINGRAM22
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Hawaiian_punch
09/16/18 9:24:27 AM
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Antifar posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Race is not about genetic percentages

What is it about then?

Politics and perception.

Compare the US to Brazil: both countries had large populations of African slaves. But in the US, we have famously practiced the "one drop rule," whereby anybody with even a black great-grandfather was considered black. Obama, the son of a black man and white woman, is black by basically everybody's understanding. Brazil, on the other hand, maintains a census category of "brown," wherein people of mixed-ancestry are basically considered, well, mixed. And informally, this gets broken down into many more subcategories.

Those differences aren't because of a different understanding of genetics. They're because race is a social construct.


Interesting post. Thanks

Id add in a separate train of thought that the one drop thing is dumb because somebody can pass for a specific race while still have more than a fair share of drops of something else st the same time too
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Roshon
09/16/18 9:27:49 AM
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It was updated that the single man murdered was actually a trans woman.
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P4wn4g3
09/16/18 1:50:02 PM
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Also MIASU works as evidenced by that guy being suspended. You should probably delete your racists quotes from him.
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Bio1590
09/16/18 2:56:26 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Roshon posted...
It was updated that the single man murdered was actually a trans woman.

Good thing you didnt include that in the OP otherwise people would have found a way to side with the murderer

iirc it wasn't known at the time, I think the article is completely changed from when he's posted it.
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pebblethefleet
09/16/18 2:57:20 PM
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Bout time glitteringfairy is suspended. Just ban his ass already
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/16/18 2:57:51 PM
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BlueLivesMatter
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nicklebro
09/18/18 6:50:20 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
BlueLivesMatter

edit: it's funny to me how "White Hispanic" is new for some people. I'm from So Cal and have seen probably every type of Hispanic and Latino there could be. I'm half Mexican myself, but it's crazy how some parts of the country are in such a bubble.

Well if they don't haveany Mexicans there, why would they know? You're familiar with what's around you, im sure they'd laugh at stuff you don't know and say you live in a bubble. Unless you're traveling all the time, we all live in a bubble.
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CADE FOSTER
09/18/18 6:52:48 PM
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pebblethefleet posted...
Bout time glitteringfairy is suspended. Just ban his ass already

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RickyTheBAWSE
09/18/18 7:00:49 PM
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nicklebro posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
BlueLivesMatter

edit: it's funny to me how "White Hispanic" is new for some people. I'm from So Cal and have seen probably every type of Hispanic and Latino there could be. I'm half Mexican myself, but it's crazy how some parts of the country are in such a bubble.

Well if they don't haveany Mexicans there, why would they know? You're familiar with what's around you, im sure they'd laugh at stuff you don't know and say you live in a bubble. Unless you're traveling all the time, we all live in a bubble.


that was my point.

also, a problem is how vocal people are despite not knowing shit. everybody is in some sort of bubble. some much larger than others. whatever, no biggie. but not everybody makes a habit out of trying to be the intellectual authority in discussions where they shouldn't even be speaking period. on principle.
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Hawaiian_punch
09/18/18 7:35:10 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
BlueLivesMatter

edit: it's funny to me how "White Hispanic" is new for some people. I'm from So Cal and have seen probably every type of Hispanic and Latino there could be. I'm half Mexican myself, but it's crazy how some parts of the country are in such a bubble.


White Mexican examples please
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