Current Events > pro life tip #99: the blazer and jeans combo

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No_U_L7
09/14/18 12:12:11 AM
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most people want to look nice, but are hesitant to dress way up. for some people, even wearing chinos is too much. well there's a way to dress up, be comfortable and still look sharp! it's simple: pair that more casual blazer with a pair of jeans.

just make sure the jacket fits great and is on the more casual end and the jeans fit well and you avoid the dad jeans color (the ugly mid faded blue). dark blue jeans or grey jeans look great.

examples:

https://cloudfront.dappered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bonobos-unstructred-blazer.jpg

https://cloudfront.dappered.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/j-crew-unconstructed-cotton-in-blue.jpg

https://cloudfront.dappered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Abboud-softies.jpg

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https://cloudfront.dappered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/slub-linen-jcf-cap-steps.jpg

and if you really want to dress it down even more, go with suede shoes for a more casual look. or wear a henley instead of a dress shirt. i even wear a more casual belt with nato watch strap! lots of ways to mix it up and look great
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Dash_Harber
09/14/18 12:13:42 AM
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Are you the one that was arguing before about how most people look good in a blazer, and when I said I did not, you told me I was just wrong because everyone looks good in a blazer?

Why do you have such a hard-on for blazers?
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Two_Dee
09/14/18 12:17:01 AM
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I prefer the oversized flannel over a hoodie look
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 12:17:06 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Are you the one that was arguing before about how most people look good in a blazer, and when I said I did not, you told me I was just wrong because everyone looks good in a blazer?

Why do you have such a hard-on for blazers?


youre still misunderstanding my argument. my point was that the blazer is designed to scientifically make male measurements look more masculine and enticing. its designed to make your shoulders appear broader, your waist slimmer, emphasize a v shape, give symmetry, etc. by definition everyone should look better in a blazer. it's pure science. there's a reason the suit is the standard business wear....
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Dash_Harber
09/14/18 12:18:49 AM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Are you the one that was arguing before about how most people look good in a blazer, and when I said I did not, you told me I was just wrong because everyone looks good in a blazer?

Why do you have such a hard-on for blazers?


youre still misunderstanding my argument. my point was that the blazer is designed to scientifically make male measurements look more masculine and enticing. its designed to make your shoulders appear broader, your waist slimmer, emphasize a v shape, give symmetry, etc. by definition everyone should look better in a blazer. it's pure science. there's a reason the suit is the standard business wear....


No, I'm not misunderstanding, I'm pointing out that there are going to be exceptions. For example, I already have ridiculously oversized shoulders. When I wear anything that emphasizes that, they look out of proportion and goofy.
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emblem boy
09/14/18 12:20:31 AM
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Ya,those ones don't look bad.
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 12:22:44 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
No, I'm not misunderstanding, I'm pointing out that there are going to be exceptions. For example, I already have ridiculously oversized shoulders. When I wear anything that emphasizes that, they look out of proportion and goofy.


i realize there are exceptions...and that is a fair point. but when asked to quantify why you didnt look good in blazers, in the previous topic all you could say is "i just dont, and dont feel comfortable, just accept it". so i'm going with the sample size in that most people are usually wearing the wrong size, a low quality blazer or just aren't comfortable in one but can become comfortable and ultimately look good

life is much easier when you are capable of explaining and quantifying the reasoning behind opinions
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Muffinz0rz
09/14/18 12:26:26 AM
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I remember when I first didn't know this was a gimmick
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 12:28:03 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
I remember when I first didn't know this was a gimmick


I mean, I worked in a consulting firm and this is how I dressed, so not sure how it's a gimmick...
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 12:47:36 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
I remember when I first didn't know this was a gimmick

i guess some people just don't want to look good
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Dash_Harber
09/14/18 12:59:12 AM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
No, I'm not misunderstanding, I'm pointing out that there are going to be exceptions. For example, I already have ridiculously oversized shoulders. When I wear anything that emphasizes that, they look out of proportion and goofy.


i realize there are exceptions...and that is a fair point. but when asked to quantify why you didnt look good in blazers, in the previous topic all you could say is "i just dont, and dont feel comfortable, just accept it". so i'm going with the sample size in that most people are usually wearing the wrong size, a low quality blazer or just aren't comfortable in one but can become comfortable and ultimately look good

life is much easier when you are capable of explaining and quantifying the reasoning behind opinions


You are just being condescending now for no reason. I quantified just fine; I feel awkward in one because I don't like them, and it doesn't suit my body type. Not sure how much more clear I can get for you. Here is the reasons why this topic is stupid;

1) You use appeal to popularity. Saying that it's the standard for the business world doesn't mean it looks good. There is a time that any respectable man would not be seen in public without a white powder wig. That doesn't mean it was a good look.

2) Anyone with any knowledge of fashion knows that it is not a 'one-size-fits-all' industry. Not only is it notoriously precarious, but it is almost entirely defined by trends. More importantly, and good designer will point out to you that people have to be comfortable in the clothes and that they need a specific body type/look to wear specific clothing items. If it was really a one look for everyone (or the 'majority), the fashion industry would literally stop existing, and we'd all just keep wearing the same outfits for the rest of time.

3) I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain there hasn't been a scientific study that proved that blazers are guaranteed to make you look good. I'd be really surprised if that was the case.

4) You clearly don't understand fashion if you think that blazers and jeans is the best and most versatile look. Not only does it only look good in specific circumstances, but it can be incredibly dated on some guys since, you know, it was a popular look for middle aged men in the fucking 90's and 80's. The style of blazer and jeans are incredibly important so you don't come off looking like Danny Tanner.

5) You think people who don't like a clothing item just need to train themselves to like it. This is so fucking stupid I don't even know where to start. Not only will you stick out like a sore thumb if you wear something you think looks bad, but you shouldn't try and train yourself to wear anything you don't like in the first place because fashion is entirely subjective.

6) You said you were done here because no one wanted to listen to you. So stand by you word, and stop trying to give fashion advice on CE under the guise of 'just helping out' so you can troll or get your rocks off pretending you are some fashion guru among us lowly peasants or whatever power fantasy you get off on. If you had any sort of intention of actually having a fashion discussion, you would have made the topic a fashion general or something like that, instead of the ostentatious 'Pro Tip' bullshit and the obvious self congratulatory ego stroking.

So yeah, go crawl back to whatever bro-life sub-forum you came from.
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MabusIncarnate
09/14/18 1:00:38 AM
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lol @ wanting to wear a Chevy SUV
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:02:13 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
No, I'm not misunderstanding, I'm pointing out that there are going to be exceptions. For example, I already have ridiculously oversized shoulders. When I wear anything that emphasizes that, they look out of proportion and goofy.


i realize there are exceptions...and that is a fair point. but when asked to quantify why you didnt look good in blazers, in the previous topic all you could say is "i just dont, and dont feel comfortable, just accept it". so i'm going with the sample size in that most people are usually wearing the wrong size, a low quality blazer or just aren't comfortable in one but can become comfortable and ultimately look good

life is much easier when you are capable of explaining and quantifying the reasoning behind opinions


You are just being condescending now for no reason. I quantified just fine; I feel awkward in one because I don't like them, and it doesn't suit my body type. Not sure how much more clear I can get for you. Here is the reasons why this topic is stupid;

1) You use appeal to popularity. Saying that it's the standard for the business world doesn't mean it looks good. There is a time that any respectable man would not be seen in public without a white powder wig. That doesn't mean it was a good look.

2) Anyone with any knowledge of fashion knows that it is not a 'one-size-fits-all' industry. Not only is it notoriously precarious, but it is almost entirely defined by trends. More importantly, and good designer will point out to you that people have to be comfortable in the clothes and that they need a specific body type/look to wear specific clothing items. If it was really a one look for everyone (or the 'majority), the fashion industry would literally stop existing, and we'd all just keep wearing the same outfits for the rest of time.

3) I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain there hasn't been a scientific study that proved that blazers are guaranteed to make you look good. I'd be really surprised if that was the case.

4) You clearly don't understand fashion if you think that blazers and jeans is the best and most versatile look. Not only does it only look good in specific circumstances, but it can be incredibly dated on some guys since, you know, it was a popular look for middle aged men in the fucking 90's and 80's. The style of blazer and jeans are incredibly important so you don't come off looking like Danny Tanner.

5) You think people who don't like a clothing item just need to train themselves to like it. This is so fucking stupid I don't even know where to start. Not only will you stick out like a sore thumb if you wear something you think looks bad, but you shouldn't try and train yourself to wear anything you don't like in the first place because fashion is entirely subjective.

6) You said you were done here because no one wanted to listen to you. So stand by you word, and stop trying to give fashion advice on CE under the guise of 'just helping out' so you can troll or get your rocks off pretending you are some fashion guru among us lowly peasants or whatever power fantasy you get off on. If you had any sort of intention of actually having a fashion discussion, you would have made the topic a fashion general or something like that, instead of the ostentatious 'Pro Tip' bullshit and the obvious self congratulatory ego stroking.

So yeah, go crawl back to whatever bro-life sub-forum you came from.


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Schwarz
09/14/18 1:04:35 AM
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I appreciate your efforts, TC
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Dash_Harber
09/14/18 1:04:46 AM
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No_U_L7 posted...
you:
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*Cries about how I didn't show my work*
*I show my work*
*Cries about how I showed my work*

Haha, okay buddy. I'll leave so this topic can die like the other one.
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:05:38 AM
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Schwarz posted...
I appreciate your efforts, TC


thanks!

Dash_Harber posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
you:
https://i1.wp.com/studybreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/enhanced-buzz-9665-1367424290-0.jpg


*Cries about how I didn't show my work*
*I show my work*
*Cries about how I showed my work*

Haha, okay buddy. I'll leave so this topic can die like the other one.


do you really want me to take the time to reply to all that? ok i will, give me 15 min @Dash_Harber
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The23rdMagus
09/14/18 1:07:11 AM
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I don't find blazers to be very comfortable. I'm partial to my moto leather jacket, or my shawl-collar cardigan if it's casual jacket season. I reserve blazers for if I'm Going Out, and even then reluctantly.
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:16:49 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...


First, i'm not being condescending, i'm explaining a concept. if you feel you are being condescend to, that means you're inferring it. possibly due to insecurity or any other reason

1. i'm explaining how it became the standard for business wear. the reason is very much important. fat women used to be desirable since it showed that they had a lifestyle that they could afford to eat a lot. trends change over a long period of time, no shit. but you can understand why that was desirable at the time. same now, maybe broad shoulders wouldn't be seen as sexy in 100 years, who knows. im worried about the here and now

2. i dont subscribe to fashion, i subscribe to style, which is generally timeless. the suits that looked good 100 years ago still look decent today. the suits with the perfect medium 3.5 inch lapel width that look good today will still look good 100 years from now. same for the blue jeans, 40mm watches, etc. im sharing ideas that would look good on 95%+ of men. if that's not you, so be it. but make sure youre not in that 95% and that it's not for dumb reasons like insecurity (like a lot of people who are afraid to wear blazers). realize that a lot of people that dont like something or that think an item doesnt look good on them has just never had one that's the proper size/material

3. look back at the history of blazers and suits, the reasons it was done this way was to enhance aesthetics for men. studies are done. same reason we know blue is the color women most want to see on men

4. again, i subscribe to style, not fashion. no shit, the combo can look bad if done poorly. that's why i took extra care to describe the type of blazer/jeans that should be used and posted pictures to illustrate my point

5. you're allowed to not like something, but once again it should be for a good reason and not for some preconceived notions. it's like kids that hated broccoli and never tried it again til their 20s...only to realize they love it. there are plenty of items i thought i hated, but it turns out i just had the wrong ones and it ruined my view on them. i used to hate polos and cords but love them now. some stuff i hated, tried and still hate like loafers

6. i think you're projecting again lmao

fyi your "homework" are still weak points that are poorly founded and extremely subjective. this topic gave out an idea, posted pics of the idea executed. if you don't like it, cool you can move on or have good discussion...no reason to post to hate just to hate @Dash_Harber
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:19:11 AM
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The23rdMagus posted...
I don't find blazers to be very comfortable. I'm partial to my moto leather jacket, or my shawl-collar cardigan if it's casual jacket season. I reserve blazers for if I'm Going Out, and even then reluctantly.


i mean, most of the time i leave the house i'm "going out" lol. i wear this combo to work, bars, clubs, nice dinners out. if im going to someones house for dinner or running errands i also like going with a leather jacket or shawl collar cardigan.

however, i would suggest trying a couple of things for blazers: 1. wear a blazer that's actually sized for your chest, measured in 36R, 38R, etc instead of Small Medium, large etc. 2. get a blazer that's 100% wool,flexible and soft. makes all the difference in the world in terms of comfort.
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 12:55:36 PM
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:01:07 PM
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P4wn4g3
09/14/18 1:06:02 PM
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Looks like something I'd wear if it was cold. I get super hot in long sleeves, not to mention jackets.
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krazychao5
09/14/18 1:09:47 PM
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It's a nice look to be dressed up and still be casual

Problem is that my slacks are more comfortable than my jeans.
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BuckVanHammer
09/14/18 1:11:22 PM
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I cant do jeans anymore. I do chinos/slacks with a nice cardigan and shirt if i have to don business casual.

Much more comfortable and looks nicer imo
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:12:57 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Looks like something I'd wear if it was cold. I get super hot in long sleeves, not to mention jackets.


Aim for jackets in breezy materials like linen or silk and half or no lining. In cali I wear this look in all but summer

krazychao5 posted...
It's a nice look to be dressed up and still be casual

Problem is that my slacks are more comfortable than my jeans.


If both are 100% cotton I agree, however try super stretch Jean's, like the rapid movement denim from banana republic. It's like wearing sweatpants
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:14:33 PM
#27:


BuckVanHammer posted...
I cant do jeans anymore. I do chinos/slacks with a nice cardigan and shirt if i have to don business casual.

Much more comfortable and looks nicer imo


Same as above, try super stretch Jean's. Have nothing against slacks tho, just a lot of ppl feel too dressy in them.
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Vindris_SNH
09/14/18 1:19:03 PM
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Guys in the pics you posted look like idiots with their blazers buttoned. Why the hell would you button a blazer when you're going for a casual look?
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:21:36 PM
#29:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Guys in the pics you posted look like idiots with their blazers buttoned. Why the hell would you button a blazer when you're going for a casual look?


Because blazers are meant to be buttoned. Wearing it unbuttoned is flat out incorrect. It's like guys that wear a tie halfway undone...wear it done but just wear a more casual material
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Vindris_SNH
09/14/18 1:23:55 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Guys in the pics you posted look like idiots with their blazers buttoned. Why the hell would you button a blazer when you're going for a casual look?


Because blazers are meant to be buttoned. Wearing it unbuttoned is flat out incorrect. It's like guys that wear a tie halfway undone...wear it done but just wear a more casual material


There is no "incorrect" in fashion. Either it looks good or it doesn't, and IMO those guys look awful with their blazers buttoned.
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P4wn4g3
09/14/18 1:26:08 PM
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There's no correct simply because it's not something that can be accurately quantified and controlled, but that doesn't mean there is a more popular choice.
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:27:45 PM
#32:


Vindris_SNH posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Guys in the pics you posted look like idiots with their blazers buttoned. Why the hell would you button a blazer when you're going for a casual look?


Because blazers are meant to be buttoned. Wearing it unbuttoned is flat out incorrect. It's like guys that wear a tie halfway undone...wear it done but just wear a more casual material


There is no "incorrect" in fashion. Either it looks good or it doesn't, and IMO those guys look awful with their blazers buttoned.


Good thing it's from a style website and not a fashion website. You dont have to wear it buttoned...but buttoned is the correct way. And several ppl think it looks great, as seen in this topic. Fyi, wearing a blazer unbuttoned undos all the proportional aesthetic enhancements that kinda defeats the point of wearing a blazer...but you do you
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:28:54 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
There's no correct simply because it's not something that can be accurately quantified and controlled, but that doesn't mean there is a more popular choice.

Fyi, wearing a blazer unbuttoned undos all the proportional aesthetic enhancements that kinda defeats the point of wearing a blazer...but you do you

See above, it can be quantified and controlled for the reasons I stated. Same way theres a correct way to thread your laces, tie a tie or wear a NATO strap
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Vindris_SNH
09/14/18 1:30:16 PM
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Fashion for me is more about the individual presenting themselves in a way that they think looks good. That is going to be different for everyone.
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Vindris_SNH
09/14/18 1:31:42 PM
#35:


No_U_L7 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Guys in the pics you posted look like idiots with their blazers buttoned. Why the hell would you button a blazer when you're going for a casual look?


Because blazers are meant to be buttoned. Wearing it unbuttoned is flat out incorrect. It's like guys that wear a tie halfway undone...wear it done but just wear a more casual material


There is no "incorrect" in fashion. Either it looks good or it doesn't, and IMO those guys look awful with their blazers buttoned.


Good thing it's from a style website and not a fashion website. You dont have to wear it buttoned...but buttoned is the correct way. And several ppl think it looks great, as seen in this topic. Fyi, wearing a blazer unbuttoned undos all the proportional aesthetic enhancements that kinda defeats the point of wearing a blazer...but you do you


No, there is no correct way. You can keep saying that if you want to continue being wrong.
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:32:52 PM
#36:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Fashion for me is more about the individual presenting themselves in a way that they think looks good. That is going to be different for everyone.


Again, this is about style (timeless) and not fashion (constantly shifting). Not discouraging you from being fashionable or wearing what/how you want. Merely pointing out that the blazer is buttoned up because that's timeless and not going to look weird in picture for at least a few years, since it's the classic centuries old way of doing things. And there is reason and purpose for buttoning it up as I described.
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:34:16 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Guys in the pics you posted look like idiots with their blazers buttoned. Why the hell would you button a blazer when you're going for a casual look?


Because blazers are meant to be buttoned. Wearing it unbuttoned is flat out incorrect. It's like guys that wear a tie halfway undone...wear it done but just wear a more casual material


There is no "incorrect" in fashion. Either it looks good or it doesn't, and IMO those guys look awful with their blazers buttoned.


Good thing it's from a style website and not a fashion website. You dont have to wear it buttoned...but buttoned is the correct way. And several ppl think it looks great, as seen in this topic. Fyi, wearing a blazer unbuttoned undos all the proportional aesthetic enhancements that kinda defeats the point of wearing a blazer...but you do you


No, there is no correct way. You can keep saying that if you want to continue being wrong.


That which is brought up without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I've stated my claims for why it's the right way, if you cant explain yours with actual reasons, I'm not going to bother replying to it
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P4wn4g3
09/14/18 1:34:37 PM
#38:


No_U_L7 posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
There's no correct simply because it's not something that can be accurately quantified and controlled, but that doesn't mean there is a more popular choice.

Fyi, wearing a blazer unbuttoned undos all the proportional aesthetic enhancements that kinda defeats the point of wearing a blazer...but you do you

See above, it can be quantified and controlled for the reasons I stated. Same way theres a correct way to thread your laces, tie a tie or wear a NATO strap

Uh. I see you missed my point entirely. Well done.
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Vindris_SNH
09/14/18 1:37:17 PM
#39:


No_U_L7 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Guys in the pics you posted look like idiots with their blazers buttoned. Why the hell would you button a blazer when you're going for a casual look?


Because blazers are meant to be buttoned. Wearing it unbuttoned is flat out incorrect. It's like guys that wear a tie halfway undone...wear it done but just wear a more casual material


There is no "incorrect" in fashion. Either it looks good or it doesn't, and IMO those guys look awful with their blazers buttoned.


Good thing it's from a style website and not a fashion website. You dont have to wear it buttoned...but buttoned is the correct way. And several ppl think it looks great, as seen in this topic. Fyi, wearing a blazer unbuttoned undos all the proportional aesthetic enhancements that kinda defeats the point of wearing a blazer...but you do you


No, there is no correct way. You can keep saying that if you want to continue being wrong.


That which is brought up without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I've stated my claims for why it's the right way, if you cant explain yours with actual reasons, I'm not going to bother replying to it


Style/Fashion is subjective.

There. One sentence just destroyed your entire argument. Now shut the fuck up and go button your blazer.
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 1:41:18 PM
#40:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Style/Fashion is subjective.

There. One sentence just destroyed your entire argument. Now shut the fuck up and go button your blazer.


Yeah, "destroyed my whole argument" with a vague statement. I've listed the reasons why its scientifically correct to button your blazer and that makes it stylistically correct.

If you want to do otherwise, go for it. Just trying to explain the reason the photos are shot like that.

And you're still not grasping the difference between style and fashion. Fashion is subjective...style not so much.
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Muffinz0rz
09/14/18 3:13:03 PM
#41:


No_U_L7 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
I remember when I first didn't know this was a gimmick


I mean, I worked in a consulting firm and this is how I dressed, so not sure how it's a gimmick...

No_U_L7 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
I remember when I first didn't know this was a gimmick

i guess some people just don't want to look good

Dang triggered hard, literally quoted me twice
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 3:18:46 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Dang triggered hard, literally quoted me twice

good job
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krazychao5
09/14/18 3:23:55 PM
#43:


Jackets are buttons when standing, unbuttoned when sitting.

I thought this was common sense, along with not buttoning the bottom one?
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No_U_L7
09/14/18 3:27:38 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
Jackets are buttons when standing, unbuttoned when sitting.

I thought this was common sense, along with not buttoning the bottom one?


it should be, but you know millennials....
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