Current Events > How exactly did WB screw up DC as bad as they did

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It's like they went out of their way to do everything wrong
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Just like you did to my CYOA.

They thought picking Snyder would work out as well as it did with Nolan.
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Because they weren't trying to create a compelling branched cinematic universe in its own right, they were just trying to outcompete Marvel at their own game and failed miserably.
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The studio bet on the wrong horses. Zack Snyder blows. Dude gets handed 2 of the 3 biggest characters ever and he ****ed up.
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TheDogfather posted...

Just like you did to my CYOA.

I killed it before it became a furry mess
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mainly they rushed it and relied on the wrong people
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Cause they're idiots who don't know what they're doing. Picking someone like Snyderto do a Superman movie meant the whole thing was doomed from the start. Even if he wasn't a hack, he's still the wrong pick to head a comic book cinematic universe.

I wonder if DC just liked Watchmen. The thing is it's only good (or not complete crap) because he followed the book so close. If he had free reign then God knows how WM would have come out.
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CM_Ponch posted...

TheDogfather posted...

Just like you did to my CYOA.

I killed it before it became a furry mess

Sabotage?

TheDogfather posted...

CM_Ponch posted...

TheDogfather posted...

Just like you did to my CYOA.

I killed it before it became a furry mess

Sabotage?

Euthanasia.
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DrizztLink posted...

Euthanasia.

Ruined cooperation for me forever.

Hey, Wonder Woman is a hit!
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I think the people at WB just don't care as much about their comics as Disney does. Or they are just stupid

Tried to make it too dark and gritty

They took the wrong message from the success of the Nolan movies.
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Here's the funny thing; Snyder is actually a decent director. Goyer was the one who wrote. Goyer can't write for shit, seriously, check out his imdb and marvel at all his failures.
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It all started with people overrating 300 and Watchmen.

Especially Watchmen, it was one of those movies that was said to be impossible to translate to film because comic nerds viewed it as a holy grail, and then Snyder made Watchmen and it was a success and in some cases really REALLY overrated.

Then it's time to make a Superman movie, and TDK trilogy was the big dog in comic book movies, so they want to emulate it since it had this grounded, realistic approach.

Now I can't quite explain why, but they fucked this up, and the screenwriter instead kind of gave it this depressing, edgy thing which didn't suit Superman at all. Then they gave it to Snyder because he did the so called "impossible" with Watchmen and had great success with 300.

And like, Superman did okay cause it's Superman, but by the time it was made and released Avengers became the big dogs of comic book movies. And WB freaked the fuck out, because they were nowhere near being ready for a Justice League movie.

So they decided to say fuck it and just really rush it by making a Batman V Superman movie and introducing the core 3 in that film. And the closest thing they had to a "comic book director" was Snyder so they put him in charge again. And they didn't really pay attention to the criticisms of Man of Steel, or they just ignored them, and made it super depressing and dark and shit.

And they were in such a rush to play catch up that they greenlit and started making all these movies before anything was a sure hit, and then it all started falling to shit, but they were too heavily invested to pull the plug.

And now their Superman apparently doesn't give a fuck if he gets fired and he's telling them to go fuck themselves he wants to make video game TV shows, and their Batman is so depressed that his dream job went to shit that he's become a massive alcoholic.

So now they're scrambling to find a way to salvage it even though the only thing they have worth a damn is Wonder Woman.

Disney/Marvel was eating up all that superhero movie cake.

WB was desperate to catch up.
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- too many characters introduced at once
- trying too hard to be dark or mature
- no sense of quality control
- needless attempts to shake up characters or chance trends (young Lex Luthor)
- trying to streamline major DC events without the proper buildup / forgetting that not all audience members are familiar with the subject matter

Man of Steel was never meant to be the start of a shared universe, but Avengers came out while MoS was in production and they scrambled to find a way to catch up.

I'm pretty sure TDK was still top dog with like a billion dollars before Avengers came out so I imagine that WB were shook when Marvel Studios went from making 500 million with their films to overtaking them by 500 million.

Youngster_Joey_ posted...

It all started with people overrating 300 and Watchmen.

Especially Watchmen, it was one of those movies that was said to be impossible to translate to film because comic nerds viewed it as a holy grail, and then Snyder made Watchmen and it was a success and in some cases really REALLY overrated.

Then it's time to make a Superman movie, and TDK trilogy was the big dog in comic book movies, so they want to emulate it since it had this grounded, realistic approach.

Now I can't quite explain why, but they fucked this up, and the screenwriter instead kind of gave it this depressing, edgy thing which didn't suit Superman at all. Then they gave it to Snyder because he did the so called "impossible" with Watchmen and had great success with 300.

And like, Superman did okay cause it's Superman, but by the time it was made and released Avengers became the big dogs of comic book movies. And WB freaked the fuck out, because they were nowhere near being ready for a Justice League movie.

So they decided to say fuck it and just really rush it by making a Batman V Superman movie and introducing the core 3 in that film. And the closest thing they had to a "comic book director" was Snyder so they put him in charge again. And they didn't really pay attention to the criticisms of Man of Steel, or they just ignored them, and made it super depressing and dark and shit.

And they were in such a rush to play catch up that they greenlit and started making all these movies before anything was a sure hit, and then it all started falling to shit, but they were too heavily invested to pull the plug.

And now their Superman apparently doesn't give a fuck if he gets fired and he's telling them to go fuck themselves he wants to make video game TV shows, and their Batman is so depressed that his dream job went to shit that he's become a massive alcoholic.

So now they're scrambling to find a way to salvage it even though the only thing they have worth a damn is Wonder Woman.

that was good

Affleck was an alcoholic well before Batman.
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