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The X Dawg 09/11/18 7:36:53 PM #1:	Can't think of a reason actually when it comes to getting the 5% off. <cite>The X Dawg posted [p:908560058] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>Can't think of a reason actually when it comes to getting the 5% off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 09/11/18 7:38:03 PM #2:	That's pretty much how specialized company-driven credit cards work. Great for their specific place but not much else --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Autumnsim (0-1): https://imgur.com/c164HwF <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:908560122] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>That's pretty much how specialized company-driven credit cards work. Great for their specific place but not much else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 09/11/18 7:38:33 PM #3:	No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:908560164] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The X Dawg 09/11/18 7:39:13 PM #4:	VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase. <cite>The X Dawg posted [p:908560208] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 09/11/18 7:39:19 PM #5:	It takes a few days for it to show up on your account whenever you use it. So, if you're like my friend who doesn't keep a ledger, you run the risk of spending $100 at Target, not seeing it show up on your account immediately, and thinking you have $100 more than you actually do. They also collect a lot of data on their customers if that sort of thing bothers you. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:908560212] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>It takes a few days for it to show up on your account whenever you use it. So, if you're like my friend who doesn't keep a ledger, you run the risk of spending $100 at Target, not seeing it show up on your account immediately, and thinking you have $100 more than you actually do. They also collect a lot of data on their customers if that sort of thing bothers you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 09/11/18 7:40:49 PM #6:	if you already shop at Target then it seems like a no brainer if you're altering your shopping habits, and possibly spending more money than you would normally, then it's probably not a good reason there's also the idea that they use their cards to better track you and analyze data to find patterns and such, but if that doesn't bother you (and probably already does to a certain extent), then you should be fine --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:908560308] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>if you already shop at Target then it seems like a no brainer if you're altering your shopping habits, and possibly spending more money than you would normally, then it's probably not a good reason there's also the idea that they use their cards to better track you and analyze data to find patterns and such, but if that doesn't bother you (and probably already does to a certain extent), then you should be fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 09/11/18 7:41:34 PM #7:	The X Dawg posted... VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase. Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:908560352] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>The X Dawg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase.</quote> Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 09/12/18 11:26:05 AM #8:	VipaGTS posted... The X Dawg posted... VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase. Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit. What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Autumnsim (0-1): https://imgur.com/c164HwF <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:908597216] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The X Dawg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase.</quote> Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit.</quote> What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 09/12/18 11:28:21 AM #9:	A 5% discount is nice, especially considering how much I shop at target. But I don't like them tracking all my purchases. Might as well send my DNA off to a random corporation while I'm at it. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:908597320] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>A 5% discount is nice, especially considering how much I shop at target. But I don't like them tracking all my purchases. Might as well send my DNA off to a random corporation while I'm at it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 09/12/18 11:29:58 AM #10:	NeoShadowhen posted... A 5% discount is nice, especially considering how much I shop at target. But I don't like them tracking all my purchases. Might as well send my DNA off to a random corporation while I'm at it. Unless you're paying with cash, they're still tracking you. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Autumnsim (0-1): https://imgur.com/c164HwF <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:908597411] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>A 5% discount is nice, especially considering how much I shop at target. But I don't like them tracking all my purchases. Might as well send my DNA off to a random corporation while I'm at it.</quote> Unless you're paying with cash, they're still tracking you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 09/12/18 11:30:45 AM #11:	Muffinz0rz posted... VipaGTS posted... The X Dawg posted... VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase. Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit. What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back? Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it? --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:908597456] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The X Dawg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase.</quote> Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit.</quote> What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back?</quote> Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 09/12/18 11:32:10 AM #12:	VipaGTS posted... Muffinz0rz posted... VipaGTS posted... The X Dawg posted... VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase. Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit. What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back? Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it? How is 2% better than 5%? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Autumnsim (0-1): https://imgur.com/c164HwF <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:908597538] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The X Dawg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase.</quote> Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit.</quote> What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back?</quote> Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it?</quote> How is 2% better than 5%?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 09/12/18 11:33:48 AM #13:	Muffinz0rz posted... VipaGTS posted... Muffinz0rz posted... VipaGTS posted... The X Dawg posted... VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase. Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit. What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back? Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it? How is 2% better than 5%? because 2-3% BACK is better than 5% off on 30 bucks worth of merchandise. i use my credit card for Gas and just pay it off immediately. I get 3% back everytime. that shit adds up. im not getting that much back or off with a Target card. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:908597624] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The X Dawg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase.</quote> Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit.</quote> What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back?</quote> Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it?</quote> How is 2% better than 5%?</quote> because 2-3% BACK is better than 5% off on 30 bucks worth of merchandise. i use my credit card for Gas and just pay it off immediately. I get 3% back everytime. that shit adds up. im not getting that much back or off with a Target card.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 09/12/18 11:34:42 AM #14:	VipaGTS posted... The X Dawg posted... VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase. Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit. It is worth it compared to other store credit cards simply because this is the debit card he is talking about it and doesn't require a hard pull, just a soft one. The credit card is different. And the only thing that gets tracked is Target purchases. Walmart tracks right off your regular credit card link. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:908597678] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The X Dawg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase.</quote> Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit.</quote> It is worth it compared to other store credit cards simply because this is the debit card he is talking about it and doesn't require a hard pull, just a soft one. The credit card is different. And the only thing that gets tracked is Target purchases. Walmart tracks right off your regular credit card link.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 09/12/18 11:35:19 AM #15:	Muffinz0rz posted... NeoShadowhen posted... A 5% discount is nice, especially considering how much I shop at target. But I don't like them tracking all my purchases. Might as well send my DNA off to a random corporation while I'm at it. Unless you're paying with cash, they're still tracking you. Yup. And I bet they're almost at the point that they'll be tracking you even then. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:908597716] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>A 5% discount is nice, especially considering how much I shop at target. But I don't like them tracking all my purchases. Might as well send my DNA off to a random corporation while I'm at it.</quote> Unless you're paying with cash, they're still tracking you.</quote> Yup. And I bet they're almost at the point that they'll be tracking you even then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 09/12/18 11:41:01 AM #16:	VipaGTS posted... Muffinz0rz posted... VipaGTS posted... Muffinz0rz posted... VipaGTS posted... The X Dawg posted... VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase. Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit. What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back? Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it? How is 2% better than 5%? because 2-3% BACK is better than 5% off on 30 bucks worth of merchandise. i use my credit card for Gas and just pay it off immediately. I get 3% back everytime. that shit adds up. im not getting that much back or off with a Target card. I understand that, but 3% gas, 3% at the movies, and 3% on shit at target still isn't as much as 3% gas, 3% at the movies, and 5% on shit at target. You don't have to restrict yourself to one card. Now granted it may or may not make sense depending on how far you are from a target, but for someone like me who gets groceries, DVDs, and other shit there, it would make sense. Getting a card isn't supposed to change your shopping habits, so I wouldn't bother getting a card if I go to target like once a year for a lamp or something. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Autumnsim (0-1): https://imgur.com/c164HwF <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:908598024] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The X Dawg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase.</quote> Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit.</quote> What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back?</quote> Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it?</quote> How is 2% better than 5%?</quote> because 2-3% BACK is better than 5% off on 30 bucks worth of merchandise. i use my credit card for Gas and just pay it off immediately. I get 3% back everytime. that shit adds up. im not getting that much back or off with a Target card.</quote> I understand that, but 3% gas, 3% at the movies, and 3% on shit at target still isn't as much as 3% gas, 3% at the movies, and 5% on shit at target. You don't have to restrict yourself to one card. Now granted it may or may not make sense depending on how far you are from a target, but for someone like me who gets groceries, DVDs, and other shit there, it would make sense. Getting a card isn't supposed to change your shopping habits, so I wouldn't bother getting a card if I go to target like once a year for a lamp or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 09/12/18 11:51:02 AM #17:	why is everyone acting like you can only have one card i have a red card for when i shop at target and a card that gives me cash back for all purchases for everything else --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:908598584] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>why is everyone acting like you can only have one card i have a red card for when i shop at target and a card that gives me cash back for all purchases for everything else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 09/12/18 11:54:12 AM #18:	https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/target-settles-2013-hacked-customer-data-breach-18-5-million-n764031 --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:908598761] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/target-settles-2013-hacked-customer-data-breach-18-5-million-n764031</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 09/12/18 11:55:56 AM #19:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/target-settles-2013-hacked-customer-data-breach-18-5-million-n764031 Honestly after the @Equifax breach, there's no reason to believe anybody's data is safe anymore. EDIT: Wow, RIP @Equifax, he got banned?? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Autumnsim (0-1): https://imgur.com/c164HwF <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:908598864] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/target-settles-2013-hacked-customer-data-breach-18-5-million-n764031</quote> Honestly after the @Equifax breach, there's no reason to believe anybody's data is safe anymore. EDIT: Wow, RIP @Equifax, he got banned??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CapnMuffin 09/12/18 11:59:54 AM #20:	I get 5% cash back on my CC at Target so no, I prefer the cash I can use anywhere over the equivalent discount at only Target. --- "its okay a lizard ate me and elucidated my fate" - MJ_Max on Dark Souls 3DSFC : 0860-3930-2170 \| NNID : CapnMuffin \| XBGT : Capn Muffin <cite>CapnMuffin posted [p:908599093] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>I get 5% cash back on my CC at Target so no, I prefer the cash I can use anywhere over the equivalent discount at only Target.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 09/12/18 12:04:30 PM #21:	VipaGTS posted... Muffinz0rz posted... VipaGTS posted... Muffinz0rz posted... VipaGTS posted... The X Dawg posted... VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase. Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit. What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back? Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it? How is 2% better than 5%? because 2-3% BACK is better than 5% off on 30 bucks worth of merchandise. i use my credit card for Gas and just pay it off immediately. I get 3% back everytime. that shit adds up. im not getting that much back or off with a Target card. why would you do this --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:908599342] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The X Dawg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> Well next week if you sign up then get you a coupon for a $30 off $100 purchase.</quote> Still not worth it. Youre better off opening a credit card at another store for that much. Youll save more and if youre responsible itll at least help your credit.</quote> What store offers a credit card with more than 5% cash back?</quote> Cash back on a bank card is better. how much are you buying at target that 5% off is worth it?</quote> How is 2% better than 5%?</quote> because 2-3% BACK is better than 5% off on 30 bucks worth of merchandise. i use my credit card for Gas and just pay it off immediately. I get 3% back everytime. that shit adds up. im not getting that much back or off with a Target card.</quote> why would you do this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 09/12/18 12:10:10 PM #22:	Because it gives me money back. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:908599654] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>Because it gives me money back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 09/12/18 12:32:28 PM #23:	VipaGTS posted... Because it gives me money back. Don't you have to wait for it to be on the monthly statement to receive the cash back? You're just depleting your cash by doing this. Unless there is some card that just allows you to do this pre-statement. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:908600877] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Because it gives me money back.</quote> Don't you have to wait for it to be on the monthly statement to receive the cash back? You're just depleting your cash by doing this. Unless there is some card that just allows you to do this pre-statement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 09/12/18 12:33:32 PM #24:	I always forget to make payments since I shop there infrequently so I save 5% then get hit with the $25 fee --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:908600947] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>I always forget to make payments since I shop there infrequently so I save 5% then get hit with the $25 fee</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/12/18 12:35:28 PM #25:	VipaGTS posted... No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card. If you're buying things all the time from the same place it adds up. That's why I got the Amazon card. I also got the Microcenter card because it's 6 months 0 interest financing. I don't do any other loyalties. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:908601055] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>No. 5% isnt a damn thing for most purchases. And its just a debit card.</quote> If you're buying things all the time from the same place it adds up. That's why I got the Amazon card. I also got the Microcenter card because it's 6 months 0 interest financing. I don't do any other loyalties.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The X Dawg 09/12/18 1:43:41 PM #26:	Well the way I see it, it is a debit card that I specifically would use at Target and no where else. No hard pull, no need to make payments. <cite>The X Dawg posted [p:908604930] in Is there a... [t:76991914]...</cite> <quote>Well the way I see it, it is a debit card that I specifically would use at Target and no where else. No hard pull, no need to make payments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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