Current Events > I finally watched The Last Jedi. What was supposed to be so bad about it?

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Ic3Bullet
09/08/18 9:57:42 PM
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I enjoyed it for the most part.
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solosnake
09/08/18 9:58:34 PM
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wackyteen
09/08/18 9:59:32 PM
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Something something Rose and Finn subplot being totally useless something something

something something they killed our beloved Lord and Savior, Da God, Luke Skywalker something something
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
09/08/18 9:59:32 PM
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Nothing memorable in a good way, Luke was shit on completely, no good action or story if you can even say there was a story.
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Turbam
09/08/18 9:59:44 PM
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IT HAD A SJW CHARACTER WITH PINK HAIR
IT HAD A SJW SCENE WITH FREEING ANIMALS
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K181
09/08/18 10:00:08 PM
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Casino scenes were a bit of a waste of time and fanboys were mad that their theories didn't play out.
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kkTheKiller42
09/08/18 10:01:03 PM
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What was bad about it imo was it killed all of the set ups jj abrams was trying to do in episode 7 by saying everything was worthless or snoke wasnt as powerful as he was hyped up to be.
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ThanksUglyGod
09/08/18 10:01:22 PM
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Women and people of color as lead characters
Luke Skywalker not being a altruistic Gary Stu
MCU-style humor, even though MCU movies are beloved for their humor
Leia doing the most basic Force move
Rey's parents being nobodies, which should've been obvious
Snoke getting killed, which who cares


There, I just summed up all the outrage
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wackyteen
09/08/18 10:01:35 PM
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but almost entirely this:

K181 posted...
fanboys were mad that their theories didn't play out.


Everybody and their fucking mother had a goddamned theory or headcannon about Snoke and they all got cucked so fucking hard that now they live in an eternal existential crisis about it.
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Zikten
09/08/18 10:02:35 PM
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it destroys a bunch of plot from the old movies

the main things it wrecks

Luke Skywalker fucking dies

Kylo Ren's boss who was set up to be this really big huge villain with a mysterious back story gets murdered with no warning and we never know his past that everyone wanted to find out

Luke destroys thousands of years worth of Jedi historical records for no reason

Kylo Ren gives up his Vader fetish. his hero worship of Vader was the most interesting thing about his character. and then his boss makes one comment about "that dumb mask" and he takes it off and throws it away. wtf
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wackyteen
09/08/18 10:03:18 PM
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kkTheKiller42 posted...
What was bad about it imo was it killed all of the set ups jj abrams was trying to do in episode 7 by saying everything was worthless or snoke wasnt as powerful as he was hyped up to be.

because JJ Abrams lurvs setting up mystery boxes.

It's his stick.
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Ludwig Von 2
09/08/18 10:03:24 PM
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It doesnt make sense. Super Supreme Leader Snoke gets taken out cause some rookie can use a lightsaber like that? No way thats dumb.
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Yazarogi
09/08/18 10:04:49 PM
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Spoilers ahead.

It wasn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be, I'm always flabbergasted when people act surprised that a Skywalker had the darkside (through fear) take over him. Anakin when he foresaw Padme's death, Luke when he foresaw Kylo Ren becoming a pawn of the Dark Side as well, and now Kylo himself, turning to the darkside in the first place.

Another thing that pisses me off is when people bitch about Leia (obviously force sensitive since she mentioned in in RotJ 30 fucking years ago) using her force powers to bring her back to the ship.

Mother fucking Plo Koon was fighting droids in the vacuum of space... FIGHTING... in the VACUUM of space, in Clone Wars which is confirmed CANON mind you.

So why is it so fucking crazy to assume Leia wasn't honing her force powers in her own way for the last 20 years in universe? Cry more losers, the movie wasn't as shit as they make it out to be. They are the same people that have to literally anomalously bully an actress for portraying a character on screen, they did the same thing to both Jake Lloyd (who snapped eventually from it) and Hayden Christensen.

I'm pretty sure a small amount (not all if you've read her biographies) of some of the mental shit Carrie Fisher was going through back in the day was a result of crazy ass fans also.
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alphagamble
09/08/18 10:06:42 PM
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Completely ruined Luke's character
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Yazarogi
09/08/18 10:07:15 PM
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alphagamble posted...
Completely ruined Luke's character


No they didnt.
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Yazarogi
09/08/18 10:08:17 PM
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alphagamble posted...
Completely ruined Luke's character


He was a whiny piece of shit in A New Hope just like he was a whiny piece of shit in this one, it's not a character assassination at all LOL.

"But I wanna go with Biggs and Wedge to get a new power converter...." literally said in the voice of a 16 year old whiny rich brat, and he was a farmer lol.
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K181
09/08/18 10:08:35 PM
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Zikten posted...



Luke destroys thousands of years worth of Jedi historical records for no reason


No he didn't.

He was going to, but... Yoda lit the tree up when Luke hesitated, knowing that Rey already took the tomes with her as they were shown on the Falcon after the fact.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/08/18 10:09:16 PM
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Nothing. It's a fantastic film.
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Damn_Underscore
09/08/18 10:11:15 PM
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Without regard to the plot at all, it is full of awful forced humor and is way too long.
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Blighboy
09/08/18 10:16:07 PM
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The whole Holdo, Finn, Poe, Rose plot was just really really bad the whole time

Most everything else was fine
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Super Slash
09/08/18 10:18:44 PM
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People are just pissed off at Snoke and Luke's deaths, Luke's character, and the Leia scene, so they blow it completely out of proportion.
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Hayame Zero
09/08/18 10:24:24 PM
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It had problems, but I loved everything involving Luke, his conflict, the theme of looking towards the future, and his death. That was my favorite part about the movie.
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UnholyMudcrab
09/08/18 10:25:37 PM
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K181
09/08/18 10:26:42 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
When is this fucking topic going to stop being made


Literally never.
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Zikten
09/08/18 10:26:57 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
When is this fucking topic going to stop being made

After Episode 9 comes out
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Hayame Zero
09/08/18 10:29:39 PM
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K181 posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
When is this fucking topic going to stop being made


Literally never.

It is, in my opinion and without exaggeration, the most controversial film reception I've seen since The Passion of the Christ. It's fucking ridiculous that a Star Wars movie has upset this many people.
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closetkpopfan
09/08/18 10:55:25 PM
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I think the Last Jedi is a good movie on it's own (minus the Finn/Rose subplot), but as a continuation of a TFA it was pretty terrible. Rian Johnson basically took everything that TFA set up plot wise and just tossed it away, for seemingly no other reason then to subvert everyone's expectations in attempt to do something different. I can appreciate taking a risk and doing something different, but the way it was executed was just bad.
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Guerrilla Soldier
09/08/18 11:10:58 PM
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luke uses his powers to pretend to be in the end scene instead of actually just showing up to the end scene and potentially wrecking shit for real. why did he do that? who the fuck knows.
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pebblethefleet
09/08/18 11:12:14 PM
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...
luke uses his powers to pretend to be in the end scene instead of actually just showing up to the end scene and potentially wrecking shit for real. why did he do that? who the fuck knows.

A Jedi cannot face down that entire landing party alone. A real Jedi in canon, not EU dumbshit God-Luke
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pebblethefleet
09/08/18 11:12:46 PM
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K181 posted...
Zikten posted...



Luke destroys thousands of years worth of Jedi historical records for no reason


No he didn't.

He was going to, but... Yoda lit the tree up when Luke hesitated, knowing that Rey already took the tomes with her as they were shown on the Falcon after the fact.

And this just proves that so many TLJ haters either didn't watch it or didn't pay attention. I so often see that same stupid point posted on this board and it's not even true.
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SSJGrimReaper
09/08/18 11:45:10 PM
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you can tell the director had a boner for kylo ren the whole movie

rey finn poe rose were useless lol
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nn-DMT
09/08/18 11:50:09 PM
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people of color as lead characters


racist fuck
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stoltenberg11
09/08/18 11:52:58 PM
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nothing was supposed to be bad about it, but it had pretty lame action
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Zikten
09/09/18 12:11:59 AM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
you can tell the director had a boner for kylo ren the whole movie

and yet he ruined the character. as I said in my earlier post with the spoilers in it....probably the one thing that I most hate in that movie is what they did to sabotage the character of Kylo Ren. they took the one damn thing that actually made him an interesting character and threw it away. now he is just a generic dark side fuckhead.
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stoltenberg11
09/09/18 1:10:57 AM
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Yeah stuff like that too. Johnson got overly carried away with subverting all the setups and expectations to the point of making everything boring
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Schwarz
09/09/18 1:18:59 AM
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Yazarogi posted...

Another thing that pisses me off is when people bitch about Leia (obviously force sensitive since she mentioned in in RotJ 30 fucking years ago) using her force powers to bring her back to the ship.

It looked fucking stupid
Leia did nothing of import the rest of the movie
That was a great, meaningful spot to kill off the character but now she's gonna have some stupid off-screen death or "oh, she's busy being a politician somewhere not here" kind of role.

SSJGrimReaper posted...
you can tell the director had a boner for kylo ren the whole movie

Too bad he put Kylo in those horrible boner-killer pants then, jfc
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