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GreatEvilEmpire 09/08/18 8:42:31 PM #52:	ScazarMeltex posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Godnorgosh posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Capitalism works for anyone who is willing to put forth an honest effort into anything. I could point to many examples that challenge this notion, but I think the teacher strikes that just recently occurred in multiple states are good case studies to show that that is not actually true. The teacher's union is as socialist as they come. Bad teachers are lumped in with good teachers and they're all treated the same way and paid the same way. Yeah and since they are all pretty much underpaid good or bad you should probably shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk. You can't call yourself a grown up when you're advocating for communism. Get out of your mom's basement. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:908372498] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism works for anyone who is willing to put forth an honest effort into anything.</quote> I could point to many examples that challenge this notion, but I think the teacher strikes that just recently occurred in multiple states are good case studies to show that that is not actually true.</quote> The teacher's union is as socialist as they come. Bad teachers are lumped in with good teachers and they're all treated the same way and paid the same way.</quote> Yeah and since they are all pretty much underpaid good or bad you should probably shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk.</quote> You can't call yourself a grown up when you're advocating for communism. Get out of your mom's basement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 09/08/18 8:43:08 PM #53:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... ScazarMeltex posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Godnorgosh posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Capitalism works for anyone who is willing to put forth an honest effort into anything. I could point to many examples that challenge this notion, but I think the teacher strikes that just recently occurred in multiple states are good case studies to show that that is not actually true. The teacher's union is as socialist as they come. Bad teachers are lumped in with good teachers and they're all treated the same way and paid the same way. Yeah and since they are all pretty much underpaid good or bad you should probably shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk. You can't call yourself a grown up when you're advocating for communism. Get out of your mom's basement. I'm not advocating for anything there junior, other than the fact that you are clueless. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:908372530] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism works for anyone who is willing to put forth an honest effort into anything.</quote> I could point to many examples that challenge this notion, but I think the teacher strikes that just recently occurred in multiple states are good case studies to show that that is not actually true.</quote> The teacher's union is as socialist as they come. Bad teachers are lumped in with good teachers and they're all treated the same way and paid the same way.</quote> Yeah and since they are all pretty much underpaid good or bad you should probably shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk.</quote> You can't call yourself a grown up when you're advocating for communism. Get out of your mom's basement.</quote> I'm not advocating for anything there junior, other than the fact that you are clueless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 09/08/18 8:44:36 PM #54:	ScazarMeltex posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... ScazarMeltex posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Godnorgosh posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Capitalism works for anyone who is willing to put forth an honest effort into anything. I could point to many examples that challenge this notion, but I think the teacher strikes that just recently occurred in multiple states are good case studies to show that that is not actually true. The teacher's union is as socialist as they come. Bad teachers are lumped in with good teachers and they're all treated the same way and paid the same way. Yeah and since they are all pretty much underpaid good or bad you should probably shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk. You can't call yourself a grown up when you're advocating for communism. Get out of your mom's basement. I'm not advocating for anything there junior, other than the fact that you are clueless. So you're not going to deny the part about you living in your mom's basement? --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:908372600] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism works for anyone who is willing to put forth an honest effort into anything.</quote> I could point to many examples that challenge this notion, but I think the teacher strikes that just recently occurred in multiple states are good case studies to show that that is not actually true.</quote> The teacher's union is as socialist as they come. Bad teachers are lumped in with good teachers and they're all treated the same way and paid the same way.</quote> Yeah and since they are all pretty much underpaid good or bad you should probably shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk.</quote> You can't call yourself a grown up when you're advocating for communism. Get out of your mom's basement.</quote> I'm not advocating for anything there junior, other than the fact that you are clueless.</quote> So you're not going to deny the part about you living in your mom's basement?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 09/08/18 8:47:55 PM #55:	the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html not allegations --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:908372786] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html not allegations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/08/18 8:48:07 PM #56:	What communism did to Romania: https://rolandia.eu/romania-ceausescu-communist-regime/ Pretty good read. It's a high-level summary, but touches on the economic stagnation, widespread hunger and death, massive indoctrination and propaganda campaigns, and ultimate collapse of the country into a civil war to overthrow the commies. (The commies lost in the end) --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908372794] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>What communism did to Romania: https://rolandia.eu/romania-ceausescu-communist-regime/ Pretty good read. It's a high-level summary, but touches on the economic stagnation, widespread hunger and death, massive indoctrination and propaganda campaigns, and ultimate collapse of the country into a civil war to overthrow the commies. (The commies lost in the end)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 09/08/18 8:49:39 PM #57:	communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc) it does generally call for the kind of extreme power in government only realistically possible in a non-representative government, though, as part of its "transition mechanism" which magically never ends (and that's why it isn't a good or realistic economic model) --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:908372880] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc) it does generally call for the kind of extreme power in government only realistically possible in a non-representative government, though, as part of its "transition mechanism" which magically never ends (and that's why it isn't a good or realistic economic model)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 09/08/18 8:51:03 PM #58:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... ScazarMeltex posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... ScazarMeltex posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Godnorgosh posted... GreatEvilEmpire posted... Capitalism works for anyone who is willing to put forth an honest effort into anything. I could point to many examples that challenge this notion, but I think the teacher strikes that just recently occurred in multiple states are good case studies to show that that is not actually true. The teacher's union is as socialist as they come. Bad teachers are lumped in with good teachers and they're all treated the same way and paid the same way. Yeah and since they are all pretty much underpaid good or bad you should probably shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk. You can't call yourself a grown up when you're advocating for communism. Get out of your mom's basement. I'm not advocating for anything there junior, other than the fact that you are clueless. So you're not going to deny the part about you living in your mom's basement? I'm married and i've been living with my wife for a little over 14 years now, try again. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:908372950] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Capitalism works for anyone who is willing to put forth an honest effort into anything.</quote> I could point to many examples that challenge this notion, but I think the teacher strikes that just recently occurred in multiple states are good case studies to show that that is not actually true.</quote> The teacher's union is as socialist as they come. Bad teachers are lumped in with good teachers and they're all treated the same way and paid the same way.</quote> Yeah and since they are all pretty much underpaid good or bad you should probably shut the fuck up and let the grownups talk.</quote> You can't call yourself a grown up when you're advocating for communism. Get out of your mom's basement.</quote> I'm not advocating for anything there junior, other than the fact that you are clueless.</quote> So you're not going to deny the part about you living in your mom's basement?</quote> I'm married and i've been living with my wife for a little over 14 years now, try again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 09/08/18 8:57:43 PM #59:	ScazarMeltex posted... I'm married and i've been living with my wife for a little over 14 years now, try again. There is nothing to try. And being so old and still lacking wisdom is quite eye opening to say the least. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:908373306] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>I'm married and i've been living with my wife for a little over 14 years now, try again.</quote> There is nothing to try. And being so old and still lacking wisdom is quite eye opening to say the least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 09/08/18 9:03:36 PM #60:	Paper_Okami posted... the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html not allegations I wasn't talking about the US-Vietnam war. Look at the dates on your link. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:908373631] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html not allegations</quote> I wasn't talking about the US-Vietnam war. Look at the dates on your link.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 09/08/18 9:04:46 PM #61:	tennisdude818 posted... Paper_Okami posted... the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html not allegations I wasn't talking about the US-Vietnam war. Look at the dates on your link. learn to read this is about stuff that took place after the killing fields http://www.roch.edu/course/doors2cambodia/cambodia._killing_fields.html 1975-1979 --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:908373701] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html not allegations</quote> I wasn't talking about the US-Vietnam war. Look at the dates on your link.</quote> learn to read this is about stuff that took place after the killing fields http://www.roch.edu/course/doors2cambodia/cambodia._killing_fields.html 1975-1979</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 09/08/18 9:10:05 PM #62:	Paper_Okami posted... tennisdude818 posted... Paper_Okami posted... the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html not allegations I wasn't talking about the US-Vietnam war. Look at the dates on your link. learn to read this is about stuff that took place after the killing fields http://www.roch.edu/course/doors2cambodia/cambodia._killing_fields.html 1975-1979 I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? Edit: and I don't know why I'm even bothering. You're not providing any sort of defense of communism by bringing this up. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:908373969] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html not allegations</quote> I wasn't talking about the US-Vietnam war. Look at the dates on your link.</quote> learn to read this is about stuff that took place after the killing fields http://www.roch.edu/course/doors2cambodia/cambodia._killing_fields.html 1975-1979</quote> I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? Edit: and I don't know why I'm even bothering. You're not providing any sort of defense of communism by bringing this up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 09/08/18 9:11:13 PM #63:	Communism is the very definition of failure. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:908374032] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>Communism is the very definition of failure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/08/18 9:12:11 PM #64:	Darkman124 posted... communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc) Notice how none of the Red Scared are gonna ever acknowledge this. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:908374072] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc)</quote> Notice how none of the Red Scared are gonna ever acknowledge this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 09/08/18 9:15:52 PM #65:	tennisdude818 posted... I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? why the fuck would it matter when it happened they were supporting a government that committed genocide no i DID not confuse it YOU did. Vietnam ended in the early 70s the killing field started in 1975 --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:908374292] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? </quote> why the fuck would it matter when it happened they were supporting a government that committed genocide no i DID not confuse it YOU did. Vietnam ended in the early 70s the killing field started in 1975</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 09/08/18 9:17:49 PM #66:	Paper_Okami posted... tennisdude818 posted... I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? why the fuck would it matter when it happened they were supporting a government that committed genocide no i DID not confuse it YOU did. Vietnam ended in the early 70s the killing field started in 1975 Maybe you didn't realize there were 2 wars? idk --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:908374396] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? </quote> why the fuck would it matter when it happened they were supporting a government that committed genocide no i DID not confuse it YOU did. Vietnam ended in the early 70s the killing field started in 1975</quote> Maybe you didn't realize there were 2 wars? idk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 09/08/18 9:19:58 PM #67:	tennisdude818 posted... Paper_Okami posted... tennisdude818 posted... I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? why the fuck would it matter when it happened they were supporting a government that committed genocide no i DID not confuse it YOU did. Vietnam ended in the early 70s the killing field started in 1975 Maybe you didn't realize there were 2 wars? idk The Cambodian vietnam war and the american vietnam war ended at around the same time before, the killing fields started. i am right, you are wrong. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:908374490] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? </quote> why the fuck would it matter when it happened they were supporting a government that committed genocide no i DID not confuse it YOU did. Vietnam ended in the early 70s the killing field started in 1975</quote> Maybe you didn't realize there were 2 wars? idk</quote> The Cambodian vietnam war and the american vietnam war ended at around the same time before, the killing fields started. i am right, you are wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 09/08/18 9:26:27 PM #68:	Paper_Okami posted... tennisdude818 posted... Paper_Okami posted... tennisdude818 posted... I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? why the fuck would it matter when it happened they were supporting a government that committed genocide no i DID not confuse it YOU did. Vietnam ended in the early 70s the killing field started in 1975 Maybe you didn't realize there were 2 wars? idk The Cambodian vietnam war and the american vietnam war ended at around the same time before, the killing fields started. i am right, you are wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian%E2%80%93Vietnamese_War Date 25 December 1978 26 September 1989 (10 years, 9 months and 1 day) --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:908374856] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>I think you just aren't following what I was saying. If the US provided material aid, it was after the genocide started. You said "the killing fields started in 1975 after nam ended", which indicates that you were confusing the Cambodian-Vietnamese War that I referenced in my previous post with the US-Vietnamese War. Otherwise, why would you say that? </quote> why the fuck would it matter when it happened they were supporting a government that committed genocide no i DID not confuse it YOU did. Vietnam ended in the early 70s the killing field started in 1975</quote> Maybe you didn't realize there were 2 wars? idk</quote> The Cambodian vietnam war and the american vietnam war ended at around the same time before, the killing fields started. i am right, you are wrong.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian%E2%80%93Vietnamese_War <quote>Date 25 December 1978 26 September 1989 (10 years, 9 months and 1 day)</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 09/08/18 9:28:54 PM #69:	that's the second one the first one was 55 to 75 and either way the genocide was going on at the same time and the u.s supported those doing it --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:908374999] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>that's the second one the first one was 55 to 75 and either way the genocide was going on at the same time and the u.s supported those doing it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/08/18 9:31:58 PM #70:	Kineth posted... Darkman124 posted... communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc) Notice how none of the Red Scared are gonna ever acknowledge this. Here's your CE homework for today: Think about why communism has a strong association with autocracies. Contrast this with thinking about why the only notable capitalist autocracy (so far anyway) is pretty much just Mussolini, for awhile at least. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:908375158] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc)</quote> Notice how none of the Red Scared are gonna ever acknowledge this.</quote> Here's your CE homework for today: Think about why communism has a strong association with autocracies. Contrast this with thinking about why the only notable capitalist autocracy (so far anyway) is pretty much just Mussolini, for awhile at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/08/18 9:32:22 PM #71:	Hey Paper_Okami remember how you abandoned all your talking points in that other topic a few days ago? And remember how you swore you're not a communist a few months ago? lmao --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908375177] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>Hey Paper_Okami remember how you abandoned all your talking points in that other topic a few days ago? And remember how you swore you're not a communist a few months ago? lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/08/18 9:37:46 PM #72:	Questionmarktarius posted... Kineth posted... Darkman124 posted... communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc) Notice how none of the Red Scared are gonna ever acknowledge this. Here's your CE homework for today: Think about why communism has a strong association with autocracies. The countries that employed "communism" had very few resources or resource gathering potential. Also, revolutions create power vacuums that engender having an iron grip on the newly formed government and they're also rife with corruption. This was homework 15 years ago. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:908375487] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc)</quote> Notice how none of the Red Scared are gonna ever acknowledge this.</quote> Here's your CE homework for today: Think about why communism has a strong association with autocracies.</quote> The countries that employed "communism" had very few resources or resource gathering potential. Also, revolutions create power vacuums that engender having an iron grip on the newly formed government and they're also rife with corruption. This was homework 15 years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/08/18 9:38:07 PM #73:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Hey Paper_Okami remember how you abandoned all your talking points in that other topic a few days ago? And remember how you swore you're not a communist a few months ago? lmao You sound like an ex-girlfriend. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:908375509] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Hey Paper_Okami remember how you abandoned all your talking points in that other topic a few days ago? And remember how you swore you're not a communist a few months ago? lmao</quote> You sound like an ex-girlfriend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/08/18 9:39:22 PM #74:	Kineth posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Kineth posted... Darkman124 posted... communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc) Notice how none of the Red Scared are gonna ever acknowledge this. Here's your CE homework for today: Think about why communism has a strong association with autocracies. The countries that employed "communism" had very few resources or resource gathering potential. Also, revolutions create power vacuums that engender having an iron grip on the newly formed government and they're also rife with corruption. This was homework 15 years ago. go on... <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:908375575] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>communism isnt really a government system, just an economic system the nations that practiced it were run by oligarchies (USSR post-stalin, modern-day china) and despots (maoist china, stalinist USSR, cambodia, cuba, etc)</quote> Notice how none of the Red Scared are gonna ever acknowledge this.</quote> Here's your CE homework for today: Think about why communism has a strong association with autocracies.</quote> The countries that employed "communism" had very few resources or resource gathering potential. Also, revolutions create power vacuums that engender having an iron grip on the newly formed government and they're also rife with corruption. This was homework 15 years ago.</quote> go on...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jumi 09/08/18 9:48:19 PM #76:	Godnorgosh posted... gunplagirl posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... Communism has literally never succeeded. How many more times must it be tried before people accept it just doesn't work. Capitalism has never succeeded except for the 1% yet we keep going with that Don't forget about the people Proudclad mentioned who are technically not in abject poverty anymore because they make a few more cents per day People who work in a sweatshop for three rocks a day = so poor People who work in a sweatshop for three pennies a day but now have a microwave = "Look how capitalism improved their lives! Worship the free market! Murricuh, motherfuckers!" --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:908376124] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>Communism has literally never succeeded. How many more times must it be tried before people accept it just doesn't work.</quote> Capitalism has never succeeded except for the 1% yet we keep going with that</quote> Don't forget about the people Proudclad mentioned who are technically not in abject poverty anymore because they make a few more cents per day</quote> People who work in a sweatshop for three rocks a day = so poor People who work in a sweatshop for three pennies a day but now have a microwave = "Look how capitalism improved their lives! Worship the free market! Murricuh, motherfuckers!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/08/18 9:59:15 PM #77:	Hey Kineth you might as well just come out and say you're a Marxist like Godnorgosh is. Just go the full length rather than tiptoeing around it, bro. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908376714] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>Hey Kineth you might as well just come out and say you're a Marxist like Godnorgosh is. Just go the full length rather than tiptoeing around it, bro.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/08/18 10:00:06 PM #78:	jumi posted... Godnorgosh posted... gunplagirl posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... Communism has literally never succeeded. How many more times must it be tried before people accept it just doesn't work. Capitalism has never succeeded except for the 1% yet we keep going with that Don't forget about the people Proudclad mentioned who are technically not in abject poverty anymore because they make a few more cents per day People who work in a sweatshop for three rocks a day = so poor People who work in a sweatshop for three pennies a day but now have a microwave = "Look how capitalism improved their lives! Worship the free market! Murricuh, motherfuckers!" What a dishonest post, although I don't expect much from someone who just yesterday argued that the native Americans practiced communism and that it worked for them. @nicklebro remember that? lmao --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908376773] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>Communism has literally never succeeded. How many more times must it be tried before people accept it just doesn't work.</quote> Capitalism has never succeeded except for the 1% yet we keep going with that</quote> Don't forget about the people Proudclad mentioned who are technically not in abject poverty anymore because they make a few more cents per day</quote> People who work in a sweatshop for three rocks a day = so poor People who work in a sweatshop for three pennies a day but now have a microwave = "Look how capitalism improved their lives! Worship the free market! Murricuh, motherfuckers!"</quote> What a dishonest post, although I don't expect much from someone who just yesterday argued that the native Americans practiced communism and that it worked for them. @nicklebro remember that? lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 09/08/18 10:12:45 PM #79:	FLUFFYGERM posted... jumi posted... Godnorgosh posted... gunplagirl posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... Communism has literally never succeeded. How many more times must it be tried before people accept it just doesn't work. Capitalism has never succeeded except for the 1% yet we keep going with that Don't forget about the people Proudclad mentioned who are technically not in abject poverty anymore because they make a few more cents per day People who work in a sweatshop for three rocks a day = so poor People who work in a sweatshop for three pennies a day but now have a microwave = "Look how capitalism improved their lives! Worship the free market! Murricuh, motherfuckers!" What a dishonest post, although I don't expect much from someone who just yesterday argued that the native Americans practiced communism and that it worked for them. @nicklebro remember that? lmao It's the truth. By the way, who is trying to control people, Proudclad? --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:908377485] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>Communism has literally never succeeded. How many more times must it be tried before people accept it just doesn't work.</quote> Capitalism has never succeeded except for the 1% yet we keep going with that</quote> Don't forget about the people Proudclad mentioned who are technically not in abject poverty anymore because they make a few more cents per day</quote> People who work in a sweatshop for three rocks a day = so poor People who work in a sweatshop for three pennies a day but now have a microwave = "Look how capitalism improved their lives! Worship the free market! Murricuh, motherfuckers!"</quote> What a dishonest post, although I don't expect much from someone who just yesterday argued that the native Americans practiced communism and that it worked for them. @nicklebro remember that? lmao</quote> It's the truth. By the way, who is trying to control people, Proudclad?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/08/18 10:14:58 PM #80:	jumi posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... jumi posted... Godnorgosh posted... gunplagirl posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... Communism has literally never succeeded. How many more times must it be tried before people accept it just doesn't work. Capitalism has never succeeded except for the 1% yet we keep going with that Don't forget about the people Proudclad mentioned who are technically not in abject poverty anymore because they make a few more cents per day People who work in a sweatshop for three rocks a day = so poor People who work in a sweatshop for three pennies a day but now have a microwave = "Look how capitalism improved their lives! Worship the free market! Murricuh, motherfuckers!" What a dishonest post, although I don't expect much from someone who just yesterday argued that the native Americans practiced communism and that it worked for them. @nicklebro remember that? lmao It's the truth. By the way, who is trying to control people, Proudclad? It's not the truth, only a fucking charlatan or child would really argue that native Americans practiced communism. And I already answered that childish question multiple times - the politicians who want to censor the internet with bullshit censorship laws like the ones the EU and Australia want to implement. You can shut the fuck up about that now. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908377596] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>Communism has literally never succeeded. How many more times must it be tried before people accept it just doesn't work.</quote> Capitalism has never succeeded except for the 1% yet we keep going with that</quote> Don't forget about the people Proudclad mentioned who are technically not in abject poverty anymore because they make a few more cents per day</quote> People who work in a sweatshop for three rocks a day = so poor People who work in a sweatshop for three pennies a day but now have a microwave = "Look how capitalism improved their lives! Worship the free market! Murricuh, motherfuckers!"</quote> What a dishonest post, although I don't expect much from someone who just yesterday argued that the native Americans practiced communism and that it worked for them. @nicklebro remember that? lmao</quote> It's the truth. By the way, who is trying to control people, Proudclad?</quote> It's not the truth, only a fucking charlatan or child would really argue that native Americans practiced communism. And I already answered that childish question multiple times - the politicians who want to censor the internet with bullshit censorship laws like the ones the EU and Australia want to implement. You can shut the fuck up about that now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jumi 09/08/18 10:18:06 PM #82:	"Communism has never been successful!" "Here's an example of communism being successful." "NOT REAL COMMUNISM, REEEEEEEEEE!" --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:908377760] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>"Communism has never been successful!" "Here's an example of communism being successful." "NOT REAL COMMUNISM, REEEEEEEEEE!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/08/18 10:19:51 PM #83:	> "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908377857] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>> "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 09/08/18 10:24:13 PM #84:	Well, there was no violent revolution, but people gave according to their ability, and took according to their need, and shared, and everything seemed to work pretty well. Seems pretty communist to me. You know, until capitalists destroyed it. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:908378068] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>Well, there was no violent revolution, but people gave according to their ability, and took according to their need, and shared, and everything seemed to work pretty well. Seems pretty communist to me. You know, until capitalists destroyed it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/08/18 10:25:13 PM #85:	Uh no, the many different tribes of native Americans in all of the Americas would fight with each other to seize land/resources. Boundaries and borders changed just as they did amongst populations in any other part of the world. I don't know where you got this fantasy about how things were before America was colonized, but it's delusional. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908378127] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>Uh no, the many different tribes of native Americans in all of the Americas would fight with each other to seize land/resources. Boundaries and borders changed just as they did amongst populations in any other part of the world. I don't know where you got this fantasy about how things were before America was colonized, but it's delusional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 09/08/18 10:27:57 PM #86:	Yes, tribal nations fought. Modern capitalist nations fight, and you don't consider that a failure of capitalism. I'm talking about WITHIN A FUCKING TRIBE. You know, the "commune" part of "communism?" --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:908378279] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>Yes, tribal nations fought. Modern capitalist nations fight, and you don't consider that a failure of capitalism. I'm talking about WITHIN A FUCKING TRIBE. You know, the "commune" part of "communism?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/08/18 10:30:12 PM #87:	What in god's name are you blabbering about, dude? There was never any long-lasting or large commune of any kind that scaled any type of communism into the modern era. It simply doesn't work. All of the tribes, for the most part, engaged in warfare and violence and profit-seeking. Capitalism coincides with a radical reduction in global violence over the last 200 years, because free trade and currency are proxies for warfare and violence. Society has become notably less violent/more peaceful over time. Far moreso than any population that was around hundreds of years ago. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908378403] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>What in god's name are you blabbering about, dude? There was never any long-lasting or large commune of any kind that scaled any type of communism into the modern era. It simply doesn't work. All of the tribes, for the most part, engaged in warfare and violence and profit-seeking. Capitalism coincides with a radical reduction in global violence over the last 200 years, because free trade and currency are proxies for warfare and violence. Society has become notably less violent/more peaceful over time. Far moreso than any population that was around hundreds of years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 09/09/18 1:26:48 AM #88:	FLUFFYGERM posted... What in god's name are you blabbering about, dude? There was never any long-lasting or large commune of any kind that scaled any type of communism into the modern era. It simply doesn't work. All of the tribes, for the most part, engaged in warfare and violence and profit-seeking. Capitalism coincides with a radical reduction in global violence over the last 200 years, because free trade and currency are proxies for warfare and violence. Society has become notably less violent/more peaceful over time. Far moreso than any population that was around hundreds of years ago. Yeah that radical reduction in global violence that in the last century gave us the two largest and bloodiest wars ever fought in recorded history. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:908386750] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>What in god's name are you blabbering about, dude? There was never any long-lasting or large commune of any kind that scaled any type of communism into the modern era. It simply doesn't work. All of the tribes, for the most part, engaged in warfare and violence and profit-seeking. Capitalism coincides with a radical reduction in global violence over the last 200 years, because free trade and currency are proxies for warfare and violence. Society has become notably less violent/more peaceful over time. Far moreso than any population that was around hundreds of years ago.</quote> Yeah that radical reduction in global violence that in the last century gave us the two largest and bloodiest wars ever fought in recorded history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARKINGRAM22 09/09/18 1:48:06 AM #89:	jumi posted... "Communism has never been successful!" "Here's an example of communism being successful." "NOT REAL COMMUNISM, REEEEEEEEEE!" Which fucking example? <cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted [p:908387549] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>"Communism has never been successful!" "Here's an example of communism being successful." "NOT REAL COMMUNISM, REEEEEEEEEE!"</quote> Which fucking example?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/09/18 1:49:10 AM #90:	MARKINGRAM22 posted... jumi posted... "Communism has never been successful!" "Here's an example of communism being successful." "NOT REAL COMMUNISM, REEEEEEEEEE!" Which fucking example? uh... HyVee? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:908387580] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>"Communism has never been successful!" "Here's an example of communism being successful." "NOT REAL COMMUNISM, REEEEEEEEEE!"</quote> Which fucking example?</quote> uh... HyVee?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARKINGRAM22 09/09/18 1:53:12 AM #91:	ScazarMeltex posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... What in god's name are you blabbering about, dude? There was never any long-lasting or large commune of any kind that scaled any type of communism into the modern era. It simply doesn't work. All of the tribes, for the most part, engaged in warfare and violence and profit-seeking. Capitalism coincides with a radical reduction in global violence over the last 200 years, because free trade and currency are proxies for warfare and violence. Society has become notably less violent/more peaceful over time. Far moreso than any population that was around hundreds of years ago. Yeah that radical reduction in global violence that in the last century gave us the two largest and bloodiest wars ever fought in recorded history. Wars based around statist uprisings, but the world is safer constantly...that is just due to all the great advancements in medicine and technology, which coincidentally seem to come from capitalist economies. <cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted [p:908387718] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>What in god's name are you blabbering about, dude? There was never any long-lasting or large commune of any kind that scaled any type of communism into the modern era. It simply doesn't work. All of the tribes, for the most part, engaged in warfare and violence and profit-seeking. Capitalism coincides with a radical reduction in global violence over the last 200 years, because free trade and currency are proxies for warfare and violence. Society has become notably less violent/more peaceful over time. Far moreso than any population that was around hundreds of years ago.</quote> Yeah that radical reduction in global violence that in the last century gave us the two largest and bloodiest wars ever fought in recorded history.</quote> Wars based around statist uprisings, but the world is safer constantly...that is just due to all the great advancements in medicine and technology, which coincidentally seem to come from capitalist economies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreshSushi 09/09/18 1:56:00 AM #92:	communism works as well as libertarianism i like how there's literally an idiot claiming globalization reduces violence when it's a meme at this point that right before world war 1, idiots were claiming an end to world conflict because muh trade --- LoL: (Swain, Malz), SF5: (Ryu) Top 5: RE4, Dark Souls, MMBN3, HK, Pokemon Yellow <cite>FreshSushi posted [p:908387810] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>communism works as well as libertarianism i like how there's literally an idiot claiming globalization reduces violence when it's a meme at this point that right before world war 1, idiots were claiming an end to world conflict because muh trade</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARKINGRAM22 09/09/18 1:56:44 AM #93:	FLUFFYGERM posted... > "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao The native Americans werent even close to communist. They had very little government structure. <cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted [p:908387836] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>> "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao</quote> The native Americans werent even close to communist. They had very little government structure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARKINGRAM22 09/09/18 1:57:32 AM #94:	FreshSushi posted... communism works as well as libertarianism Which societies has libertarianism crumbled? How many people has it killed? <cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted [p:908387868] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>FreshSushi posted...</cite> <quote>communism works as well as libertarianism</quote> Which societies has libertarianism crumbled? How many people has it killed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreshSushi 09/09/18 2:00:10 AM #95:	MARKINGRAM22 posted... FreshSushi posted... communism works as well as libertarianism Which societies has libertarianism crumbled? How many people has it killed? go pick up a history book and every time you see the word warring states, add it to the pile --- LoL: (Swain, Malz), SF5: (Ryu) Top 5: RE4, Dark Souls, MMBN3, HK, Pokemon Yellow <cite>FreshSushi posted [p:908387966] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FreshSushi posted...</cite> <quote>communism works as well as libertarianism</quote> Which societies has libertarianism crumbled? How many people has it killed?</quote> go pick up a history book and every time you see the word warring states, add it to the pile</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 09/09/18 2:29:29 AM #96:	MARKINGRAM22 posted... jumi posted... "Communism has never been successful!" "Here's an example of communism being successful." "NOT REAL COMMUNISM, REEEEEEEEEE!" Which fucking example? Native Americans. You know, what we've been talking about for the last two pages. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:908388949] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>"Communism has never been successful!" "Here's an example of communism being successful." "NOT REAL COMMUNISM, REEEEEEEEEE!"</quote> Which fucking example?</quote> Native Americans. You know, what we've been talking about for the last two pages.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 09/09/18 2:31:23 AM #97:	MARKINGRAM22 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... > "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao The native Americans werent even close to communist. They had very little government structure. Communism is an economic system, not a governing one. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:908389006] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>> "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao</quote> The native Americans werent even close to communist. They had very little government structure.</quote> Communism is an economic system, not a governing one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/09/18 2:32:24 AM #98:	ScazarMeltex posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... What in god's name are you blabbering about, dude? There was never any long-lasting or large commune of any kind that scaled any type of communism into the modern era. It simply doesn't work. All of the tribes, for the most part, engaged in warfare and violence and profit-seeking. Capitalism coincides with a radical reduction in global violence over the last 200 years, because free trade and currency are proxies for warfare and violence. Society has become notably less violent/more peaceful over time. Far moreso than any population that was around hundreds of years ago. Yeah that radical reduction in global violence that in the last century gave us the two largest and bloodiest wars ever fought in recorded history. The data is indisputable - the world has become much less violent in the last 150 years. Like, a crazy amount less violent. The two world wars had large absolute numbers of casualities but that doesn't change the trend. https://tinyurl.com/yasfnv7p Read that --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908389033] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>What in god's name are you blabbering about, dude? There was never any long-lasting or large commune of any kind that scaled any type of communism into the modern era. It simply doesn't work. All of the tribes, for the most part, engaged in warfare and violence and profit-seeking. Capitalism coincides with a radical reduction in global violence over the last 200 years, because free trade and currency are proxies for warfare and violence. Society has become notably less violent/more peaceful over time. Far moreso than any population that was around hundreds of years ago.</quote> Yeah that radical reduction in global violence that in the last century gave us the two largest and bloodiest wars ever fought in recorded history.</quote> The data is indisputable - the world has become much less violent in the last 150 years. Like, a crazy amount less violent. The two world wars had large absolute numbers of casualities but that doesn't change the trend. https://tinyurl.com/yasfnv7p Read that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/09/18 2:35:03 AM #99:	jumi posted... MARKINGRAM22 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... > "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao The native Americans werent even close to communist. They had very little government structure. Communism is an economic system, not a governing one. Communism is both an economic system and a governance model. Ultimately economics and governance are heavily intertwined so you can't really have one without the other. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:908389102] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>> "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao</quote> The native Americans werent even close to communist. They had very little government structure.</quote> Communism is an economic system, not a governing one.</quote> Communism is both an economic system and a governance model. Ultimately economics and governance are heavily intertwined so you can't really have one without the other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AboRTSuBMIsSION 09/09/18 3:04:42 AM #100:	Theocracy is way worse. <cite>AboRTSuBMIsSION posted [p:908389950] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote>Theocracy is way worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/09/18 5:53:25 AM #101:	FLUFFYGERM posted... jumi posted... MARKINGRAM22 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... > "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao The native Americans werent even close to communist. They had very little government structure. Communism is an economic system, not a governing one. Communism is both an economic system and a governance model. Ultimately economics and governance are heavily intertwined so you can't really have one without the other. Communism is only an economic system. How an economy distributes goods is an economic issue. How an economy is taxed is a government issue. And yes, Native American economics is the most successful form of communism detailed. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:908393516] in Communism ... [t:76979460]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>> "Communism has never been given a real chance, it has never been successfully implemented! The socialists and communists in the Soviet Union and other countries who literally openly said they were implementing Marx's ideas were not actual communists!!1111" > "Oh you know the native Americans from hundreds of years before Marx? They seized the means of production and everyone was equal and they actually practiced communism!!1111" lmfao</quote> The native Americans werent even close to communist. They had very little government structure.</quote> Communism is an economic system, not a governing one.</quote> Communism is both an economic system and a governance model. Ultimately economics and governance are heavily intertwined so you can't really have one without the other.</quote> Communism is only an economic system. How an economy distributes goods is an economic issue. How an economy is taxed is a government issue. And yes, Native American economics is the most successful form of communism detailed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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