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pebblethefleet
09/08/18 12:23:21 PM
#102:


Hairistotle posted...
FYI The Ivory Man is well-known CaGN troll

Idk what cagn is, but his entire posting gimmick for a long time was making racist topics on the skyrim board
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The_Ivory_Man
09/08/18 12:25:53 PM
#103:


Conflict posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...

But Polish people are heavily discriminated against.

You are trying to turn this into white people which is wrong.

The fact that none of the leads will be Polish people is wrong.


I was literally responding to a post claiming white people are becoming disadvantaged in the film industry. That post and my response both had nothing to do with Polish people


Why bring that up though in a post about actual discrimination?

If a group in Assam India made a movie featuring Hindi characters, but didn't cast any Hindi people.

People would be right to assume something and going "a Bollywood film isn't discriminating against Indians" doesn't really address what is actually happening.
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KhanJohnny
09/08/18 12:29:48 PM
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American culture is so weird
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The_Ivory_Man
09/08/18 12:35:17 PM
#106:


pebblethefleet posted...
Hairistotle posted...
FYI The Ivory Man is well-known CaGN troll

Idk what cagn is, but his entire posting gimmick for a long time was making racist topics on the skyrim board


It's a comic book board, I have no idea what he was talking about there.

I'll own up to the Skyrim thing, users on that board who I did talk to all the time wanted me to post that kind of content because they thought it was funny and I kept doing it to get laughs from them.
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DarthAragorn
09/08/18 2:18:52 PM
#107:


Yeah this is stupid

Killed any hype I had for the remaining casting after really liking the Henry Cavill pick
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Vyrulisse
09/08/18 2:23:51 PM
#108:


DarthAragorn posted...
Yeah this is stupid

Killed any hype I had for the remaining casting after really liking the Henry Cavill pick

Careful there! If you don't agree with arbitrarily changing the race of a character then you might be a racist

I fully expect Yennefer to be a landwhale and yell at Geralt about fat shaming and body acceptance
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ThePrinceFish
09/08/18 2:24:43 PM
#109:


Expect them to turn Triss into a brunnette.
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jumi
09/08/18 2:26:14 PM
#110:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
Hairistotle posted...
Why are you guys talking about polish oppression or whatever the fuck

They are casting a video game character in a movie


A character from a Polish novel you mean.

A series deemed so culturally significant, their president gifted it to other nations as an example of Polish culture.

Polish oppression is relevant when ethnic Polish aren't getting to play the main two characters in their own series.

It's frankly bullshit.


Name two polish actors who can play the leads, one of which needs to be pretty famous. Bonus if you can do it without Google.
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SSJGrimReaper
09/08/18 2:31:41 PM
#111:


Ahahahahahaha
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Kineth
09/08/18 2:37:52 PM
#112:


Vyrulisse posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Yeah this is stupid

Killed any hype I had for the remaining casting after really liking the Henry Cavill pick

Careful there! If you don't agree with arbitrarily changing the race of a character then you might be a racist

I fully expect Yennefer to be a landwhale and yell at Geralt about fat shaming and body acceptance


You should lament the frailty of your army of strawmen.
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The_Ivory_Man
09/08/18 2:50:35 PM
#113:


jumi posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Hairistotle posted...
Why are you guys talking about polish oppression or whatever the fuck

They are casting a video game character in a movie


A character from a Polish novel you mean.

A series deemed so culturally significant, their president gifted it to other nations as an example of Polish culture.

Polish oppression is relevant when ethnic Polish aren't getting to play the main two characters in their own series.

It's frankly bullshit.


Name two polish actors who can play the leads, one of which needs to be pretty famous. Bonus if you can do it without Google.


Why do you need a big name?

Who knew Viggo Morteson before Lord of the Rings?

I pick Marcin Doroncinski.

I watch overseas films a lot so I know him
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jumi
09/08/18 3:01:19 PM
#114:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
jumi posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Hairistotle posted...
Why are you guys talking about polish oppression or whatever the fuck

They are casting a video game character in a movie


A character from a Polish novel you mean.

A series deemed so culturally significant, their president gifted it to other nations as an example of Polish culture.

Polish oppression is relevant when ethnic Polish aren't getting to play the main two characters in their own series.

It's frankly bullshit.


Name two polish actors who can play the leads, one of which needs to be pretty famous. Bonus if you can do it without Google.


Why do you need a big name?

Who knew Viggo Morteson before Lord of the Rings?

I pick Marcin Doroncinski.

I watch overseas films a lot so I know him


Big name = draw and attention

LotR had Ian McKellan and Elijah Wood. GoT had Sean Bean. That's probably part of the reason they picked Henry Cavill.
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Vyrulisse
09/08/18 3:44:26 PM
#115:


Kineth posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Yeah this is stupid

Killed any hype I had for the remaining casting after really liking the Henry Cavill pick

Careful there! If you don't agree with arbitrarily changing the race of a character then you might be a racist

I fully expect Yennefer to be a landwhale and yell at Geralt about fat shaming and body acceptance


You should lament the frailty of your army of strawmen.

"I have no argument but I need to appear clever so I'll say strawmen" - Kineth
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Kineth
09/08/18 3:53:17 PM
#116:


Vyrulisse posted...
Kineth posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Yeah this is stupid

Killed any hype I had for the remaining casting after really liking the Henry Cavill pick

Careful there! If you don't agree with arbitrarily changing the race of a character then you might be a racist

I fully expect Yennefer to be a landwhale and yell at Geralt about fat shaming and body acceptance


You should lament the frailty of your army of strawmen.

"I have no argument but I need to appear clever so I'll say strawmen" - Kineth


"First I'm gonna make fun of arguments that never happened and when I get called on it, I'm gonna say you have no argument, because I'm such a pleasant person to engage and talk to. That's surely why Kineth is wrong on saying I'm meh." -Vyrulisse

I'd say you couldn't be any more unpleasant, but I'm worried you'd attempt to prove me wrong.
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The_Ivory_Man
09/08/18 6:03:03 PM
#117:


jumi posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
jumi posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Hairistotle posted...
Why are you guys talking about polish oppression or whatever the fuck

They are casting a video game character in a movie


A character from a Polish novel you mean.

A series deemed so culturally significant, their president gifted it to other nations as an example of Polish culture.

Polish oppression is relevant when ethnic Polish aren't getting to play the main two characters in their own series.

It's frankly bullshit.


Name two polish actors who can play the leads, one of which needs to be pretty famous. Bonus if you can do it without Google.


Why do you need a big name?

Who knew Viggo Morteson before Lord of the Rings?

I pick Marcin Doroncinski.

I watch overseas films a lot so I know him


Big name = draw and attention

LotR had Ian McKellan and Elijah Wood. GoT had Sean Bean. That's probably part of the reason they picked Henry Cavill.


Also, this just came to me.

You are saying Polish actors are so underrepresented that you can't name a single one off the top of your head, and you are saying it doesn't matter?

How underrepresented are they then?
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Ivynn
09/08/18 6:04:39 PM
#118:


Blue_Inigo posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
I want a hot asian chick >_>

Two_Dee posted...
I love Asian girls

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Lathissamus
09/08/18 6:51:01 PM
#119:


I'm a Liberal and I tend to agree with diversity in films. With that said, all the people in this thread vehemently defending this decision and attacking those who are against it come off as extremely annoying. It's not a difficult concept to understand that if a character is clearly white, leave them white.

Just like if a character is clearly black, leave them black.

If they're clearly Asian or Hispanic, leave them as Asian or Hispanic.

"Oh noes all these alt righters!!! Why can't they let us change everyone to a different race to show how n9t racist we are!!??" This couldn't be farther from the truth.
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Lathissamus
09/08/18 6:52:33 PM
#120:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
jumi posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
jumi posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Hairistotle posted...
Why are you guys talking about polish oppression or whatever the fuck

They are casting a video game character in a movie


A character from a Polish novel you mean.

A series deemed so culturally significant, their president gifted it to other nations as an example of Polish culture.

Polish oppression is relevant when ethnic Polish aren't getting to play the main two characters in their own series.

It's frankly bullshit.


Name two polish actors who can play the leads, one of which needs to be pretty famous. Bonus if you can do it without Google.


Why do you need a big name?

Who knew Viggo Morteson before Lord of the Rings?

I pick Marcin Doroncinski.

I watch overseas films a lot so I know him


Big name = draw and attention

LotR had Ian McKellan and Elijah Wood. GoT had Sean Bean. That's probably part of the reason they picked Henry Cavill.


Also, this just came to me.

You are saying Polish actors are so underrepresented that you can't name a single one off the top of your head, and you are saying it doesn't matter?

How underrepresented are they then?

Diversity ftw
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prince_leo
09/08/18 7:04:43 PM
#121:


it's kinda dumb but it's not end-of-the-world

it's lol though that people cry about polish representation now but not with cavill's casting
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Skye Reynolds
09/08/18 7:05:04 PM
#122:


LEAD ROLE. OPTIONS REQUIRED
Cirilla. The Lion Cub of Cintra

Looking for a 16 or 15 year old BAME girl who can play down to 13/14. Must not be older than 18 years old.


Gee, I'm totally gonna get up in arms because a 13 year old got a race change.
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The_Ivory_Man
09/08/18 7:14:10 PM
#123:


prince_leo posted...
it's kinda dumb but it's not end-of-the-world

it's lol though that people cry about polish representation now but not with cavill's casting


I complained about Cavill not being Polish too.

The fact that neither of the leads is Polish is far worse than just one however.
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Banana_Cyanide
09/09/18 11:15:30 AM
#124:


Shamelessly stolen from twitter.

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Banana_Cyanide
09/09/18 3:22:59 PM
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Awesome
09/09/18 3:23:58 PM
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Wil_Knights
09/09/18 3:37:18 PM
#128:


It's weird that they want to erase the character's Polish background, as if Polish people haven't been marginalized and hidden enough in media. Imagine if they made Black Panther's sister white just for the sake of diversity. It makes no sense in the context of who she is or where she is from; it's an emotionally-based decision based on affirmative action. She would have been out of place and it would have made no sense for her to be white, just how it would make zero sense for Ciri to be black given all we know about the character and her history. Why can't Polish people have their thing?

Not that it REALLY matters, but it just sucks that there seem to be two different set of rules on how you are supposed to cast actors and actresses.
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Dusk_
09/09/18 3:52:13 PM
#129:


Ugh.. this needs to stop.

Casting needs to fit how the character is described by the source material. Or cast who is best! For the role. The fact they are specifically looking for a just for a minority is disgusting, stop casting them just for the sake of diversity and instead cast who performs the best and fits the character for the role.
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Irregardless
09/09/18 3:54:27 PM
#130:


Dusk_ posted...
Ugh.. this needs to stop.

Casting needs to fit how the character is described by the source material. Or cast who is best! For the role. The fact they are specifically looking for a just for a minority is disgusting, stop casting them just for the sake of diversity and instead cast who performs the best and fits the character for the role.

We have to fill our minority quota to impress randoms internet activists who probably won't even watch the series in the first place.
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jumi
09/09/18 9:01:00 PM
#131:


Banana_Cyanide posted...
Shamelessly stolen from twitter.

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Should be Sarah Jessica Parker as Roach. XD
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Darmik
09/09/18 9:08:32 PM
#132:


But Geralt isn't Polish. The author is. The author is involved with the Netflix show. Moreso than the games.

The Witcher is a setting with several regions and nations. There are several liberties the games took with the story too. To the point where the author doesn't even consider them canon.
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Dusk_
09/09/18 9:24:15 PM
#133:


Darmik posted...
But Geralt isn't Polish. The author is. The author is involved with the Netflix show. Moreso than the games.

The Witcher is a setting with several regions and nations. There are several liberties the games took with the story too. To the point where the author doesn't even consider them canon.


He doesn't because he is bitter he gave the rights away for cheap. After Witcher 3 was such a huge success he wanted money from cdpr and they basically said thanks for the source but fuck off mate.
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Darmik
09/09/18 9:27:06 PM
#134:


Dusk_ posted...
Darmik posted...
But Geralt isn't Polish. The author is. The author is involved with the Netflix show. Moreso than the games.

The Witcher is a setting with several regions and nations. There are several liberties the games took with the story too. To the point where the author doesn't even consider them canon.


He doesn't because he is bitter he gave the rights away for cheap. After Witcher 3 was such a huge success he wanted money from cdpr and they basically said thanks for the source but fuck off mate.


Also because the character was dead and they made sequels to the books lol
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The_Ivory_Man
09/10/18 12:07:10 AM
#135:


Darmik posted...
But Geralt isn't Polish. The author is. The author is involved with the Netflix show. Moreso than the games.

The Witcher is a setting with several regions and nations. There are several liberties the games took with the story too. To the point where the author doesn't even consider them canon.


The Netflix show he already left months ago because of "creative differences" that he can't name specifically because he's under contract?
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pogo_rabid
09/10/18 11:33:59 AM
#136:


The same people who got mad that the Major's race got changed in Ghost in the Shell are defending Ciri's race getting changed in Witcher.

Seems kind of hypocritical...
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