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dontIoseyourway 09/07/18 9:31:49 PM #1:	I understand their issue with abortion. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:908319910] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>I understand their issue with abortion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Burgess 09/07/18 9:32:28 PM #2:	The punchline was awful. --- Burgess [Z?] ...follow the Mod that failed. "All that typing made me have to crap."~Dark Magic Vixen <cite>Burgess posted [p:908319949] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>The punchline was awful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dontIoseyourway 09/07/18 9:34:39 PM #4:	Mr Hangman posted... Recognizing the link between sex and children and organizing around that is the basis of religion. Decoupling that undermines their power. Pulling out still exists. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:908320060] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>Recognizing the link between sex and children and organizing around that is the basis of religion. Decoupling that undermines their power.</quote> Pulling out still exists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 09/07/18 9:34:54 PM #5:	the bible pretty much tells people that our duty is to make babies so doing anything to stop a potential baby is going against the faith. I guess. :v --- https://imgur.com/RrnQVUg <cite>Abyssea posted [p:908320075] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>the bible pretty much tells people that our duty is to make babies so doing anything to stop a potential baby is going against the faith. I guess. :v</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/07/18 9:35:12 PM #6:	Abyssea posted... the bible pretty much tells people that our duty is to make babies so doing anything to stop a potential baby is going against the faith. I guess. :v Ban anime <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:908320090] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>the bible pretty much tells people that our duty is to make babies so doing anything to stop a potential baby is going against the faith. I guess. :v</quote> Ban anime</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 09/07/18 9:37:55 PM #7:	Causes nausea. <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:908320231] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>Causes nausea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/07/18 9:44:09 PM #8:	Abyssea posted... doing anything to stop a potential baby this Catholicism is just plain against any kind of attempt to prevent a baby. in the bible it says your not even supposed to deed. all male orgasms are supposed to happen inside a woman's fun zone, and then try to make a baby. anything else makes baby Jesus cry <cite>Zikten posted [p:908320552] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abyssea posted...</cite> <quote>doing anything to stop a potential baby</quote> this Catholicism is just plain against any kind of attempt to prevent a baby. in the bible it says your not even supposed to deed. all male orgasms are supposed to happen inside a woman's fun zone, and then try to make a baby. anything else makes baby Jesus cry</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nth 09/07/18 9:51:11 PM #10:	Ex-Kefiroth posted... The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception is absurd given that it's the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions. Logic and religion can't co-exist. Otherwise there would be no religion. --- Gamefaq Users post count and intelligence are directly correlated. The higher the post count, the lower the intelligence. <cite>Nth posted [p:908320894] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ex-Kefiroth posted...</cite> <quote>The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception is absurd given that it's the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions.</quote> Logic and religion can't co-exist. Otherwise there would be no religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 09/07/18 10:57:47 PM #11:	the reason why the catholic priests dont worry about birth control is because they're f-gets shot --- https://imgur.com/RrnQVUg <cite>Abyssea posted [p:908324175] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>the reason why the catholic priests dont worry about birth control is because they're f-gets shot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 09/07/18 10:59:43 PM #12:	Catholics want children. --- Chicago, greatest city in the world! <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:908324252] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>Catholics want children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 09/07/18 11:04:37 PM #13:	Christians believe life begins at conception. Many forms of birth control destroy the fertilized egg, which in that case isn't preventing abortion, it is abortion. Just use a fucking condom --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:908324478] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>Christians believe life begins at conception. Many forms of birth control destroy the fertilized egg, which in that case isn't preventing abortion, it is abortion. Just use a fucking condom</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 09/07/18 11:08:02 PM #14:	SageHarpuia posted... Christians believe life begins at conception. Many forms of birth control destroy the fertilized egg, which in that case isn't preventing abortion, it is abortion. Just use a fucking condom what if it breaks tho --- https://imgur.com/RrnQVUg <cite>Abyssea posted [p:908324648] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>Christians believe life begins at conception. Many forms of birth control destroy the fertilized egg, which in that case isn't preventing abortion, it is abortion. Just use a fucking condom</quote> what if it breaks tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CircleOfManias 09/07/18 11:09:27 PM #15:	SageHarpuia posted... Christians believe life begins at conception. Many forms of birth control destroy the fertilized egg, which in that case isn't preventing abortion, it is abortion. Just use a fucking condom Birth control prevents ovulation entirely. Do some research. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park <cite>CircleOfManias posted [p:908324725] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>Christians believe life begins at conception. Many forms of birth control destroy the fertilized egg, which in that case isn't preventing abortion, it is abortion. Just use a fucking condom</quote> Birth control prevents ovulation entirely. Do some research.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AuroraUnit836 09/07/18 11:11:41 PM #16:	so there can be an endless supply for the priests --- woogity woogity woogity ink me tf UP 1246-3783-6509 <cite>AuroraUnit836 posted [p:908324847] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>so there can be an endless supply for the priests</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 09/07/18 11:14:52 PM #17:	How about instead of speculating, we see what the Catholics have to say for themselves: The fecundity of marriage 2366 Fecundity is a gift, an end of marriage, for conjugal love naturally tends to be fruitful. A child does not come from outside as something added on to the mutual love of the spouses, but springs from the very heart of that mutual giving, as its fruit and fulfillment. So the Church, which is "on the side of life,"151 teaches that "it is necessary that each and every marriage act remain ordered per se to the procreation of human life."152 "This particular doctrine, expounded on numerous occasions by the Magisterium, is based on the inseparable connection, established by God, which man on his own initiative may not break, between the unitive significance and the procreative significance which are both inherent to the marriage act."153 2367 Called to give life, spouses share in the creative power and fatherhood of God.154 "Married couples should regard it as their proper mission to transmit human life and to educate their children; they should realize that they are thereby cooperating with the love of God the Creator and are, in a certain sense, its interpreters. They will fulfill this duty with a sense of human and Christian responsibility."155 --Catechism of the Catholic Church <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:908324972] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>How about instead of speculating, we see what the Catholics have to say for themselves: <quote>The fecundity of marriage 2366 Fecundity is a gift, an end of marriage, for conjugal love naturally tends to be fruitful. A child does not come from outside as something added on to the mutual love of the spouses, but springs from the very heart of that mutual giving, as its fruit and fulfillment. So the Church, which is "on the side of life,"151 teaches that "it is necessary that each and every marriage act remain ordered per se to the procreation of human life."152 "This particular doctrine, expounded on numerous occasions by the Magisterium, is based on the inseparable connection, established by God, which man on his own initiative may not break, between the unitive significance and the procreative significance which are both inherent to the marriage act."153 2367 Called to give life, spouses share in the creative power and fatherhood of God.154 "Married couples should regard it as their proper mission to transmit human life and to educate their children; they should realize that they are thereby cooperating with the love of God the Creator and are, in a certain sense, its interpreters. They will fulfill this duty with a sense of human and Christian responsibility."155</quote> --Catechism of the Catholic Church</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/07/18 11:15:00 PM #18:	SageHarpuia posted... Christians believe life begins at conception. Many forms of birth control destroy the fertilized egg, which in that case isn't preventing abortion, it is abortion. Just use a fucking condom Many of them are against condoms, too. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:908324982] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>Christians believe life begins at conception. Many forms of birth control destroy the fertilized egg, which in that case isn't preventing abortion, it is abortion. Just use a fucking condom</quote> Many of them are against condoms, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 09/07/18 11:17:04 PM #19:	couple thousand years ago the people writing stories realized if they wanted their society to prosper they needed a high birth rate. --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:908325090] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>couple thousand years ago the people writing stories realized if they wanted their society to prosper they needed a high birth rate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 09/07/18 11:19:28 PM #20:	If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:908325212] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 09/08/18 2:19:30 AM #22:	Catholic literally believe that every sperm is sacred. I was fucking laughing my ass off when the priest actually said that in one of his homilies. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:908331924] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>Catholic literally believe that every sperm is sacred. I was fucking laughing my ass off when the priest actually said that in one of his homilies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 09/08/18 2:21:21 AM #23:	dontIoseyourway posted... Mr Hangman posted... Recognizing the link between sex and children and organizing around that is the basis of religion. Decoupling that undermines their power. Pulling out still exists. Except IIRC, the bible explicitly says that 'wasting seed' is explicitly a no-no. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:908331974] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>Recognizing the link between sex and children and organizing around that is the basis of religion. Decoupling that undermines their power.</quote> Pulling out still exists.</quote> Except IIRC, the bible explicitly says that 'wasting seed' is explicitly a no-no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EternalDivide 09/08/18 4:09:18 AM #24:	As a catholic. It has never been explained in any way that makes sense to me. Or to my parents. Abortion. Ok, I understand that. Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. I mean other than blah blah preventing life blah blah. But that shit isn't biblical. I guess I should add that sometimes you just come to terms with eternal damnation. Going by the church I've already done six different mortal sin, eternal damnation things sine yesterday. But their preaching is god is loving and forgiving yada yada. Ok. But then other times every damn little thing you do is a sin of some reason or the other and you're never making it into heaven. So really. Which is it? It can't be both. Either god is all loving and merciful in which case he's not the eternal damnation punishing jerk. Or he's an eternal damnation punishing jerk in which case he's not all loving and merciful. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. <cite>EternalDivide posted [p:908334518] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>As a catholic. It has never been explained in any way that makes sense to me. Or to my parents. Abortion. Ok, I understand that. Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. I mean other than blah blah preventing life blah blah. But that shit isn't biblical. I guess I should add that sometimes you just come to terms with eternal damnation. Going by the church I've already done six different mortal sin, eternal damnation things sine yesterday. But their preaching is god is loving and forgiving yada yada. Ok. But then other times every damn little thing you do is a sin of some reason or the other and you're never making it into heaven. So really. Which is it? It can't be both. Either god is all loving and merciful in which case he's not the eternal damnation punishing jerk. Or he's an eternal damnation punishing jerk in which case he's not all loving and merciful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 09/08/18 4:42:57 AM #25:	The Catholic Church wants more Catholics cause more Catholics means more tithe money. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:908335162] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>The Catholic Church wants more Catholics cause more Catholics means more tithe money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/08/18 4:44:21 AM #26:	They love woman control. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:908335188] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>They love woman control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VanananaHeyHey 09/08/18 4:54:30 AM #27:	It's easier if you just think of them as a fertility cult. --- CE's Official linguist, War-tor-le and Charizard <cite>VanananaHeyHey posted [p:908335373] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>It's easier if you just think of them as a fertility cult.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 09/08/18 5:07:27 AM #28:	EternalDivide posted... Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. There is actually a biblical basis; Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:908335622] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote>Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. </quote> There is actually a biblical basis; <quote>Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. </quote> I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 09/08/18 5:36:05 AM #29:	Nth posted... Ex-Kefiroth posted... The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception is absurd given that it's the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions. Logic and religion can't co-exist. Otherwise there would be no religion. Eh i am an atheist, but you can argue religion is founded based on logic and effort to understand the world arounc the ancient humans. Modern religion's problem is blind faith/zeal and not accepting the tested knowledge that people has been accumulating for centuries. The existence of deities are most likely to make sense teh world around them. My hypothesis goes like this: people know they can change the environment,so are some animals. Changes in the environment are caused by an active actor. Rocks doesnt move by itself by their short observation therefore, someone or something must have moved it. (Even though in a long enough time in a specific condition rocks can move or turn into dust, but such observation are basically impossible without the tech to effectively pass down knowledge) so they apply the same logic to everything. Volcanoes, thunder, rain the world itself. Humans or aninals cannot cause tsunamis, therefore something with greater power, greater knowledge than humans and animals cause them. --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:908336116] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ex-Kefiroth posted...</cite> <quote>The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception is absurd given that it's the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions.</quote> Logic and religion can't co-exist. Otherwise there would be no religion.</quote> Eh i am an atheist, but you can argue religion is founded based on logic and effort to understand the world arounc the ancient humans. Modern religion's problem is blind faith/zeal and not accepting the tested knowledge that people has been accumulating for centuries. The existence of deities are most likely to make sense teh world around them. My hypothesis goes like this: people know they can change the environment,so are some animals. Changes in the environment are caused by an active actor. Rocks doesnt move by itself by their short observation therefore, someone or something must have moved it. (Even though in a long enough time in a specific condition rocks can move or turn into dust, but such observation are basically impossible without the tech to effectively pass down knowledge) so they apply the same logic to everything. Volcanoes, thunder, rain the world itself. Humans or aninals cannot cause tsunamis, therefore something with greater power, greater knowledge than humans and animals cause them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/08/18 6:12:31 AM #30:	Southernfatman posted... The Catholic Church wants more Catholics cause more Catholics means more tithe money. --- https://imgur.com/PHWbltB <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:908336758] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>The Catholic Church wants more Catholics cause more Catholics means more tithe money.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oatcakes 09/08/18 6:31:18 AM #31:	Dash_Harber posted... EternalDivide posted... Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. There is actually a biblical basis; Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion. That sounds like the not giving his brother in law offspring is seen as wicked, not that "every sperm is literally sacred". --- F.C. Stokalona https://imgur.com/CJ0dPBq <cite>Oatcakes posted [p:908337014] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote>Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. </quote> There is actually a biblical basis; <quote>Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. </quote> I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion.</quote> That sounds like the not giving his brother in law offspring is seen as wicked, not that "every sperm is literally sacred".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/08/18 6:34:45 AM #32:	Dash_Harber posted... EternalDivide posted... Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. There is actually a biblical basis; Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion. Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:908337071] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote>Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. </quote> There is actually a biblical basis; <quote>Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. </quote> I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion.</quote> Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 09/08/18 6:45:21 AM #33:	creativerealms posted... Dash_Harber posted... EternalDivide posted... Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. There is actually a biblical basis; Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion. Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work. Except the principle is the same. The reason for it being a sin is not because it literally pollutes the ground, but because it is using sperm for a purpose other than reproduction. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:908337236] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote>Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. </quote> There is actually a biblical basis; <quote>Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. </quote> I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion.</quote> Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work.</quote> Except the principle is the same. The reason for it being a sin is not because it literally pollutes the ground, but because it is using sperm for a purpose other than reproduction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bkkorps 09/08/18 7:28:28 AM #34:	they want to maintain their pipeline of altar boys. --- Minnesota is like having sex in The Boundary Waters. ****ing close to Canada. <cite>bkkorps posted [p:908337978] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>they want to maintain their pipeline of altar boys.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 09/08/18 9:26:36 AM #35:	The account in Genesis doesn't actually have to do with wasting seed, but about disobeying God, and who Tamar was in Hebrew genealogy. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:908340572] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>The account in Genesis doesn't actually have to do with wasting seed, but about disobeying God, and who Tamar was in Hebrew genealogy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 09/08/18 9:32:08 AM #36:	Ex-Kefiroth posted... The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception is absurd given that it's the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions. Birth control works by destroying eggs that have potentially been fertilized To them, that's identical to abortion <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:908340732] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ex-Kefiroth posted...</cite> <quote>The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception is absurd given that it's the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions.</quote> Birth control works by destroying eggs that have potentially been fertilized To them, that's identical to abortion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 09/08/18 9:34:39 AM #39:	Ex-Kefiroth posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... Ex-Kefiroth posted... The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception is absurd given that it's the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions. Birth control works by destroying eggs that have potentially been fertilized To them, that's identical to abortion Okay, but why the ban on condoms then? Because of aforementioned "sex for anything other than procreation is bad" sentiments <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:908340804] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ex-Kefiroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ex-Kefiroth posted...</cite> <quote>The Catholic Church's opposition to contraception is absurd given that it's the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions.</quote> Birth control works by destroying eggs that have potentially been fertilized To them, that's identical to abortion</quote> Okay, but why the ban on condoms then?</quote> Because of aforementioned "sex for anything other than procreation is bad" sentiments</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 09/08/18 9:38:33 AM #40:	which is further proof that Catholicism is a fucking joke --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:908340909] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>which is further proof that Catholicism is a fucking joke</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 09/08/18 9:41:29 AM #41:	Dash_Harber posted... creativerealms posted... Dash_Harber posted... EternalDivide posted... Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. There is actually a biblical basis; Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion. Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work. Except the principle is the same. The reason for it being a sin is not because it literally pollutes the ground, but because it is using sperm for a purpose other than reproduction. I never got that from that story. I always took it as God being angry that this guy didn't listen to him in this instance, and not that pulling out is inherently sinful. I can see how it can be interpreted the other way, though. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:908341001] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote>Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. </quote> There is actually a biblical basis; <quote>Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. </quote> I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion.</quote> Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work.</quote> Except the principle is the same. The reason for it being a sin is not because it literally pollutes the ground, but because it is using sperm for a purpose other than reproduction.</quote> I never got that from that story. I always took it as God being angry that this guy didn't listen to him in this instance, and not that pulling out is inherently sinful. I can see how it can be interpreted the other way, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 09/08/18 9:44:02 AM #42:	Master_Bass posted... Dash_Harber posted... creativerealms posted... Dash_Harber posted... EternalDivide posted... Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. There is actually a biblical basis; Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion. Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work. Except the principle is the same. The reason for it being a sin is not because it literally pollutes the ground, but because it is using sperm for a purpose other than reproduction. I never got that from that story. I always took it as God being angry that this guy didn't listen to him in this instance, and not that pulling out is inherently sinful. I can see how it can be interpreted the other way, though. Wet dreams would make that rule redundant though. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:908341077] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote>Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. </quote> There is actually a biblical basis; <quote>Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. </quote> I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion.</quote> Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work.</quote> Except the principle is the same. The reason for it being a sin is not because it literally pollutes the ground, but because it is using sperm for a purpose other than reproduction.</quote> I never got that from that story. I always took it as God being angry that this guy didn't listen to him in this instance, and not that pulling out is inherently sinful. I can see how it can be interpreted the other way, though.</quote> Wet dreams would make that rule redundant though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 09/08/18 9:54:41 AM #43:	Mostly tied to how strict they are about marriage (at least historically) imo. If youre gonna be married may as well make babies. --- I am basically am I. Well, basically. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:908341421] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>Mostly tied to how strict they are about marriage (at least historically) imo. If youre gonna be married may as well make babies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 09/08/18 9:56:38 AM #44:	Catholics want for overpopulation to destroy this planet asap cause thats gods plan <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:908341484] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>Catholics want for overpopulation to destroy this planet asap cause thats gods plan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 09/08/18 1:32:15 PM #45:	vocedelmorte posted... Catholics want for overpopulation to destroy this planet asap cause thats gods plan To be fair, birth rates in most first world countries are lower than ever because a lot of people don't want to have kids (doesn't help that our economy is shit). --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:908350701] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote>Catholics want for overpopulation to destroy this planet asap cause thats gods plan</quote> To be fair, birth rates in most first world countries are lower than ever because a lot of people don't want to have kids (doesn't help that our economy is shit).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 09/08/18 1:33:41 PM #46:	Prestoff posted... vocedelmorte posted... Catholics want for overpopulation to destroy this planet asap cause thats gods plan To be fair, birth rates in most first world countries are lower than ever because a lot of people don't want to have kids (doesn't help that our economy is shit). To be fair, thid is exactly what we need <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:908350789] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote>Catholics want for overpopulation to destroy this planet asap cause thats gods plan</quote> To be fair, birth rates in most first world countries are lower than ever because a lot of people don't want to have kids (doesn't help that our economy is shit).</quote> To be fair, thid is exactly what we need</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 09/08/18 1:34:55 PM #47:	dontIoseyourway posted... Mr Hangman posted... Recognizing the link between sex and children and organizing around that is the basis of religion. Decoupling that undermines their power. Pulling out still exists. Bible is firmly against that --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:908350855] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>Recognizing the link between sex and children and organizing around that is the basis of religion. Decoupling that undermines their power.</quote> Pulling out still exists.</quote> Bible is firmly against that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigger_Volnutt 09/08/18 1:38:59 PM #48:	The Bible is against trying to act slick against God. The wasted nut reading has always been weird to me. Just ignored the motive behind it. But that aside, do Catholics even use that story? I actually don't know. We got 16 metagames of religion and they all count and not count several things for some godforsaken reason. --- Ray Allen can drop 7 3pointers im not even going to calculate how many points that is ~ CelticsHomerPro <cite>Trigger_Volnutt posted [p:908351070] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote>The Bible is against trying to act slick against God. The wasted nut reading has always been weird to me. Just ignored the motive behind it. But that aside, do Catholics even use that story? I actually don't know. We got 16 metagames of religion and they all count and not count several things for some godforsaken reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 09/08/18 1:41:59 PM #49:	vocedelmorte posted... Catholics want for overpopulation to destroy this planet asap cause thats gods plan Nah, that's more evangelicals. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:908351216] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote>Catholics want for overpopulation to destroy this planet asap cause thats gods plan</quote> Nah, that's more evangelicals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 09/08/18 5:13:18 PM #50:	Master_Bass posted... Dash_Harber posted... creativerealms posted... Dash_Harber posted... EternalDivide posted... Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. There is actually a biblical basis; Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion. Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work. Except the principle is the same. The reason for it being a sin is not because it literally pollutes the ground, but because it is using sperm for a purpose other than reproduction. I never got that from that story. I always took it as God being angry that this guy didn't listen to him in this instance, and not that pulling out is inherently sinful. I can see how it can be interpreted the other way, though. Yeah, I think there is enough ambiguity that it could be taken either way, definitely. I'm not arguing that is the 'right' interpretation, just that there is a basis for the idea. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:908362298] in Why do Cat... [t:76978693]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote>Condoms though? You're not destroying anything. </quote> There is actually a biblical basis; <quote>Genesis 38:8-10 - Then Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. </quote> I think the interpretation is that all sperm not used for procreation is sinful in the Bible's opinion.</quote> Thats pulling out, that's different condoms actually work.</quote> Except the principle is the same. The reason for it being a sin is not because it literally pollutes the ground, but because it is using sperm for a purpose other than reproduction.</quote> I never got that from that story. I always took it as God being angry that this guy didn't listen to him in this instance, and not that pulling out is inherently sinful. I can see how it can be interpreted the other way, though.</quote> Yeah, I think there is enough ambiguity that it could be taken either way, definitely. I'm not arguing that is the 'right' interpretation, just that there is a basis for the idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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