Current Events > "Staying in the locker room is worse and kneeling"

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DarkProto05 09/07/18 7:46:03 AM #1:	Will anything satisfy Trump and the right? No, you cannot force players to stand. And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908278388] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote>Will anything satisfy Trump and the right? No, you cannot force players to stand. And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coolppl Owns 09/07/18 7:50:54 AM #2:	when i watch games at home I stand up and put my hand on my heart when the national anthem comes on --- _.-=/Got Coolppl?\=-._ =-._\Got Coolppl?/_.-= <cite>Coolppl Owns posted [p:908278520] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote>when i watch games at home I stand up and put my hand on my heart when the national anthem comes on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 09/07/18 7:51:32 AM #3:	Coolppl Owns posted... when i watch games at home I stand up and put my hand on my heart when the national anthem comes on where's the 21 gun salute you fucking traitor --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:908278538] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coolppl Owns posted...</cite> <quote>when i watch games at home I stand up and put my hand on my heart when the national anthem comes on</quote> where's the 21 gun salute you fucking traitor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/07/18 7:52:02 AM #4:	DarkProto05 posted... And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want. Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President? --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908278552] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want.</quote> Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 09/07/18 7:52:51 AM #5:	CyricZ posted... DarkProto05 posted... And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want. Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President? I'd assume to the business that they work in. Y'know. Obviously. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:908278573] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want.</quote> Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President?</quote> I'd assume to the business that they work in. Y'know. Obviously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/07/18 7:53:49 AM #6:	DarkProto05 posted... Will anything satisfy Trump and the right? No, and the NFL was dumb for thinking it could square that circle --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:908278601] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>Will anything satisfy Trump and the right? </quote> No, and the NFL was dumb for thinking it could square that circle</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/07/18 7:54:30 AM #7:	DrizztLink posted... CyricZ posted... DarkProto05 posted... And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want. Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President? I'd assume to the business that they work in. Y'know. Obviously. But... NFL players are in fact employees of their own team. I mean assuming that's what TC was referring to. It's kinda vague. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908278613] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want.</quote> Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President?</quote> I'd assume to the business that they work in. Y'know. Obviously.</quote> But... NFL players are in fact employees of their own team. I mean assuming that's what TC was referring to. It's kinda vague.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 09/07/18 7:55:43 AM #8:	CyricZ posted... DarkProto05 posted... And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want. Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President? Business partners with the NFL owners. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908278636] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want.</quote> Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President?</quote> Business partners with the NFL owners.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/07/18 7:59:58 AM #9:	DarkProto05 posted... CyricZ posted... DarkProto05 posted... And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want. Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President? Business partners with the NFL owners. No one "owns" the NFL. It's a nonprofit organization, and the people who serve on it are the owners of their individual teams. Football players are employees of individual owners. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908278744] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want.</quote> Wait, what? Business partner to whom? The President?</quote> Business partners with the NFL owners.</quote> No one "owns" the NFL. It's a nonprofit organization, and the people who serve on it are the owners of their individual teams. Football players are employees of individual owners.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 09/07/18 8:05:25 AM #10:	"nonprofit" Really..... I shouldn't take you seriously, but my dumbass still will. They "work for" the NFL so the business can thrive and they make a profit. The players are owed a percentage of that profit so they are business partners. They aren't office employees that have to abide by everything the boss says. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908278903] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote>"nonprofit" Really..... I shouldn't take you seriously, but my dumbass still will. They "work for" the NFL so the business can thrive and they make a profit. The players are owed a percentage of that profit so they are business partners. They aren't office employees that have to abide by everything the boss says.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/07/18 8:06:58 AM #11:	DarkProto05 posted... "nonprofit" Really..... I shouldn't take you seriously, but my dumbass still will. The NFL's league office was a non-profit until a few years ago: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/nfl-no-longer-non-profit-giving-tax-exempt-status-article-1.2202484 NFL players have a union and a collective bargaining agreement that protects them from some of their owners' more capricious whims, but that doesn't mean they aren't employees. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:908278949] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>"nonprofit" Really..... I shouldn't take you seriously, but my dumbass still will.</quote> The NFL's league office was a non-profit until a few years ago: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/nfl-no-longer-non-profit-giving-tax-exempt-status-article-1.2202484 NFL players have a union and a collective bargaining agreement that protects them from some of their owners' more capricious whims, but that doesn't mean they aren't employees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 09/07/18 8:09:11 AM #12:	Antifar posted... DarkProto05 posted... "nonprofit" Really..... I shouldn't take you seriously, but my dumbass still will. The NFL's league office was a non-profit until a few years ago: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/nfl-no-longer-non-profit-giving-tax-exempt-status-article-1.2202484 Interesting. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908279016] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>"nonprofit" Really..... I shouldn't take you seriously, but my dumbass still will.</quote> The NFL's league office was a non-profit until a few years ago: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/nfl-no-longer-non-profit-giving-tax-exempt-status-article-1.2202484</quote> Interesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 09/07/18 8:11:07 AM #13:	DrizztLink posted... Coolppl Owns posted... when i watch games at home I stand up and put my hand on my heart when the national anthem comes on where's the 21 gun salute you fucking traitor Which soldier died and where's the funeral? --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:908279066] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coolppl Owns posted...</cite> <quote> when i watch games at home I stand up and put my hand on my heart when the national anthem comes on</quote> where's the 21 gun salute you fucking traitor</quote> Which soldier died and where's the funeral?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 09/07/18 8:11:30 AM #14:	"Ugh, if you must protest against police brutality then do it peacefully!" "OMG not like that!" --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:908279085] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote>"Ugh, if you must protest against police brutality then do it peacefully!" "OMG not like that!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 09/07/18 8:11:46 AM #15:	Paragon21XX posted... DrizztLink posted... Coolppl Owns posted... when i watch games at home I stand up and put my hand on my heart when the national anthem comes on where's the 21 gun salute you fucking traitor Which soldier died and where's the funeral? how dare you question muh patriotism --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:908279094] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coolppl Owns posted...</cite> <quote> when i watch games at home I stand up and put my hand on my heart when the national anthem comes on</quote> where's the 21 gun salute you fucking traitor</quote> Which soldier died and where's the funeral?</quote> how dare you question muh patriotism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/07/18 8:17:38 AM #16:	Ah, that's my mistake. Still, TC is being quite vague about his statement here, and his "I shouldn't take you seriously" garbage isn't helping. The bottom line is that football players are employees of their own team, under the team owners. Team owners can fire employees for breach of contract, just so long as it's something that is actually stipulated in the contract. Team owners serve on the NFL, which okay, is not a non-profit anymore, but still the NFL commission cannot fire players, correct, but all the owners serve on the NFL, and thus they have a say in how the general wind goes. This has been a point of contention in the last year or so as they discuss whether they can make it an official part of the NFL rulebook to, for example, not kneel during the National Anthem. So, my confusion stems from this statement of TC's: No, you cannot force players to stand. And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want. The question is: who is he addressing? The President? No, of course he can't fire NFL players, and no, he's not in a business partnership with them. Is he addressing the team owners? Then yes, they CAN fire their players for breach of contract, because they ARE employees Is he addressing the NFL itself? There it will get trickier, because yes, they are business partners in that sense, but because as I said earlier, they can be convinced to create a rulebook whereby they'll be able to, ultimately, fire people for kneeling. Just looking for clarification so we're all on the same page. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908279270] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote>Ah, that's my mistake. Still, TC is being quite vague about his statement here, and his "I shouldn't take you seriously" garbage isn't helping. The bottom line is that football players are employees of their own team, under the team owners. Team owners can fire employees for breach of contract, just so long as it's something that is actually stipulated in the contract. Team owners serve on the NFL, which okay, is not a non-profit anymore, but still the NFL commission cannot fire players, correct, but all the owners serve on the NFL, and thus they have a say in how the general wind goes. This has been a point of contention in the last year or so as they discuss whether they can make it an official part of the NFL rulebook to, for example, not kneel during the National Anthem. So, my confusion stems from this statement of TC's: <quote>No, you cannot force players to stand. And they are business partners not employees, so no you cannot fire them or punish them any way you want.</quote> The question is: who is he addressing? The President? No, of course he can't fire NFL players, and no, he's not in a business partnership with them. Is he addressing the team owners? Then yes, they CAN fire their players for breach of contract, because they ARE employees Is he addressing the NFL itself? There it will get trickier, because yes, they are business partners in that sense, but because as I said earlier, they can be convinced to create a rulebook whereby they'll be able to, ultimately, fire people for kneeling. Just looking for clarification so we're all on the same page.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 09/07/18 8:23:46 AM #17:	You're just playing dumb dude or don't know what's in the CBA. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908279466] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote>You're just playing dumb dude or don't know what's in the CBA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/07/18 8:26:21 AM #18:	DarkProto05 posted... You're just playing dumb dude or don't know what's in the CBA. So you are referring to the NFL itself. Okay, that's all you had to say. I mean, no, I don't know all the details of the CBA. You could enlighten me, or continue to insult me. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908279555] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>You're just playing dumb dude or don't know what's in the CBA.</quote> So you are referring to the NFL itself. Okay, that's all you had to say. I mean, no, I don't know all the details of the CBA. You could enlighten me, or continue to insult me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 09/07/18 8:26:55 AM #19:	Players and owners agree on the rules in the CBA. Not just the owners. They are also owed a percentage of profits. What employees do you know IRL are owned a stake in the profits? --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908279575] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote>Players and owners agree on the rules in the CBA. Not just the owners. They are also owed a percentage of profits. What employees do you know IRL are owned a stake in the profits?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 09/07/18 8:28:51 AM #20:	CyricZ posted... DarkProto05 posted... You're just playing dumb dude or don't know what's in the CBA. So you are referring to the NFL itself. Okay, that's all you had to say. I mean, no, I don't know all the details of the CBA. You could enlighten me, or continue to insult me. If you're serious my apologies. If you're trying to troll or playing ignorant I'm not. Hard to tell on gamefaqs. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908279620] in "Stay... [t:76976410]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>You're just playing dumb dude or don't know what's in the CBA.</quote> So you are referring to the NFL itself. Okay, that's all you had to say. I mean, no, I don't know all the details of the CBA. You could enlighten me, or continue to insult me.</quote> If you're serious my apologies. If you're trying to troll or playing ignorant I'm not. Hard to tell on gamefaqs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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