Current Events > What's more disrespectful, kneeling to da national anthem or insulting a POW?

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ssj3vegeta_ 09/05/18 4:32:12 PM #1:	Choose - Results (22 votes) Kneeling during da US national anthem 22.73% (5 votes) 5 Making fun/insulting a prisoner of war 77.27% (17 votes) 17 POW= Prisoner of war Which one is hella disrespectful? --- https://imgur.com/P88EYmN https://imgur.com/qxu2L01 https://imgur.com/1kMCL https://imgur.com/mvXIh0Q <cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted [p:908172572] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote> Choose - Results (22 votes) Kneeling during da US national anthem 22.73% (5 votes) 5 Making fun/insulting a prisoner of war 77.27% (17 votes) 17 POW= Prisoner of war Which one is hella disrespectful?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoundNetwork 09/05/18 4:33:21 PM #2:	first --- https://imgur.com/HcKBWZ6 <cite>SoundNetwork posted [p:908172659] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>first</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SRR Capdown 09/05/18 4:34:04 PM #3:	Kneeling during the anthem is a valid form of political protest. Insulting a former PoW is just mean spirited. --- Fire Bucket <cite>SRR Capdown posted [p:908172701] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>Kneeling during the anthem is a valid form of political protest. Insulting a former PoW is just mean spirited.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj3vegeta_ 09/05/18 4:34:12 PM #4:	Fuck i tried to delete one lol How does dis still happen SBOLLEN --- https://imgur.com/P88EYmN https://imgur.com/qxu2L01 https://imgur.com/1kMCL https://imgur.com/mvXIh0Q <cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted [p:908172714] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>Fuck i tried to delete one lol How does dis still happen SBOLLEN</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirrelyDan 09/05/18 4:44:15 PM #5:	Insulting a prisoners of wars is disgusting. Kneelings during the anthems is not a big deals at all. <cite>SquirrelyDan posted [p:908173354] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>Insulting a prisoners of wars is disgusting. Kneelings during the anthems is not a big deals at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joestarrr 09/05/18 4:44:45 PM #6:	POW, by far. --- she's a killer queen <cite>joestarrr posted [p:908173388] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>POW, by far.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tamashiini 09/05/18 4:46:00 PM #7:	SRR Capdown posted... Kneeling during the anthem is a valid form of political protest. Insulting a former PoW is just mean spirited. --- PSN: helicene Careful, Icarus. <cite>tamashiini posted [p:908173465] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>SRR Capdown posted...</cite> <quote>Kneeling during the anthem is a valid form of political protest. Insulting a former PoW is just mean spirited.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj3vegeta_ 09/05/18 5:12:24 PM #8:	Yea --- https://imgur.com/P88EYmN https://imgur.com/qxu2L01 https://imgur.com/1kMCL https://imgur.com/mvXIh0Q <cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted [p:908175094] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>Yea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ehhwhatever 09/05/18 5:15:27 PM #9:	I don't really watch the NFL, too many commercials and the players are egotists. --- He is a man of great political sagacity, what about love? <cite>ehhwhatever posted [p:908175276] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>I don't really watch the NFL, too many commercials and the players are egotists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 09/05/18 5:16:16 PM #10:	SoundNetwork posted... first Why? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:908175336] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>SoundNetwork posted...</cite> <quote>first</quote> Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 09/05/18 5:18:15 PM #11:	Bishop9800 posted... SoundNetwork posted... first Why? Triggerin da libs --- https://i.imgtc.com/IR4XrBA.gif https://i.imgtc.com/7X1rBRv.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:908175450] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SoundNetwork posted...</cite> <quote>first</quote> Why?</quote> Triggerin da libs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 09/05/18 5:20:04 PM #12:	Only the absolute slurpiest could vote the first option --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:908175566] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>Only the absolute slurpiest could vote the first option</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/05/18 5:21:22 PM #13:	If they're both done with no context, just a "fuck it, I'm going to do this just because" attitude, then the latter. But when context is brought into it, that changes a lot. Kneeling to the anthem because people won't believe your made-up narrative about oppression, is more disrespectful than criticizing someone who happened to be a POW for entirely unrelated and valid reasons; just to give one example. So really - there's no straight answer without further details on both. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:908175643] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>If they're both done with no context, just a "fuck it, I'm going to do this just because" attitude, then the latter. But when context is brought into it, that changes a lot. Kneeling to the anthem because people won't believe your made-up narrative about oppression, is more disrespectful than criticizing someone who happened to be a POW for entirely unrelated and valid reasons; just to give one example. So really - there's no straight answer without further details on both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirrelyDan 09/05/18 5:24:45 PM #14:	DarkTransient posted... Kneeling to the anthem because people won't believe your made-up narrative about oppression Stopped taking you seriously right there. <cite>SquirrelyDan posted [p:908175862] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Kneeling to the anthem because people won't believe your made-up narrative about oppression</quote> Stopped taking you seriously right there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 09/05/18 5:27:56 PM #15:	SquirrelyDan posted... DarkTransient posted... Kneeling to the anthem because people won't believe your made-up narrative about oppression Stopped taking you seriously right there. This --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:908176077] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>SquirrelyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Kneeling to the anthem because people won't believe your made-up narrative about oppression</quote> Stopped taking you seriously right there.</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 09/05/18 5:28:27 PM #16:	Trump insulted McCain over his bad political ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:908176123] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>Trump insulted McCain over his bad political ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj3vegeta_ 09/05/18 5:30:15 PM #17:	DifferentialEquation posted... Trump insulted McCain over his bad polical ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW. Dats not what we heard tbh --- https://imgur.com/P88EYmN https://imgur.com/qxu2L01 https://imgur.com/1kMCL https://imgur.com/mvXIh0Q <cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted [p:908176263] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>Trump insulted McCain over his bad polical ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW.</quote> Dats not what we heard tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirrelyDan 09/05/18 5:31:29 PM #18:	DifferentialEquation posted... Trump insulted McCain over his bad polical ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW. "I prefer soldiers who don't get captured." Yup, that is strictly about political ideas. /eyeroll <cite>SquirrelyDan posted [p:908176332] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>Trump insulted McCain over his bad polical ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW.</quote> "I prefer soldiers who don't get captured." Yup, that is strictly about political ideas. /eyeroll</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 09/05/18 5:36:42 PM #19:	SquirrelyDan posted... DifferentialEquation posted... Trump insulted McCain over his bad polical ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW. "I prefer soldiers who don't get captured." Yup, that is strictly about political ideas. /eyeroll Thank you Dan! --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:908176659] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>SquirrelyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>Trump insulted McCain over his bad polical ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW.</quote> "I prefer soldiers who don't get captured." Yup, that is strictly about political ideas. /eyeroll</quote> Thank you Dan!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 09/05/18 7:10:27 PM #20:	SquirrelyDan posted... DifferentialEquation posted... Trump insulted McCain over his bad polical ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW. "I prefer soldiers who don't get captured." Yup, that is strictly about political ideas. /eyeroll That wasn't the full quote, you're posting a small part of it which doesn't give the context. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:908182181] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>SquirrelyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>Trump insulted McCain over his bad polical ideas. The insults had nothing to do with McCain's military service or his time as a POW.</quote> "I prefer soldiers who don't get captured." Yup, that is strictly about political ideas. /eyeroll</quote> That wasn't the full quote, you're posting a small part of it which doesn't give the context.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KLouD_KoNNeCteD 09/05/18 7:13:36 PM #21:	Kneeling down to insult a POW obviously. <cite>KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted [p:908182392] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>Kneeling down to insult a POW obviously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kobe8Bryant24 09/05/18 7:20:21 PM #22:	Hes not a war hero, said Trump. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured. The remarks, which came after days of back-and-forth between McCain and Trump, were met with scattered boos. McCain, a former Navy pilot, spent roughly five-and-half years in a notorious North Vietnamese prison known as the Hanoi Hilton, where he was repeatedly tortured. He spent two of those years in solitary confinement. At a press availability following his remarks, Trump denied saying that McCain isnt a war hero and said, If somebodys a prisoner, I consider them a war hero. He also continued his attacks on the Arizona senator, saying, I think John McCains done very little for the veterans. Im very disappointed in John McCain. https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/trump-attacks-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured-120317 --- I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted [p:908182794] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><quote>Hes not a war hero, said Trump. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured. The remarks, which came after days of back-and-forth between McCain and Trump, were met with scattered boos. McCain, a former Navy pilot, spent roughly five-and-half years in a notorious North Vietnamese prison known as the Hanoi Hilton, where he was repeatedly tortured. He spent two of those years in solitary confinement. At a press availability following his remarks, Trump denied saying that McCain isnt a war hero and said, If somebodys a prisoner, I consider them a war hero. He also continued his attacks on the Arizona senator, saying, I think John McCains done very little for the veterans. Im very disappointed in John McCain.</quote> https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/trump-attacks-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured-120317</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 09/05/18 7:24:39 PM #23:	DifferentialEquation posted... That wasn't the full quote, you're posting a small part of it which doesn't give the context. Ok, so what was the "full quote"? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:908183073] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>That wasn't the full quote, you're posting a small part of it which doesn't give the context.</quote> Ok, so what was the "full quote"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 09/05/18 7:24:50 PM #24:	One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation and the other is disrespect aimed at one particular person, so I would have to say the former is more disrespectful. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:908183084] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation and the other is disrespect aimed at one particular person, so I would have to say the former is more disrespectful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kobe8Bryant24 09/05/18 7:26:31 PM #25:	It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. --- I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted [p:908183169] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 09/05/18 7:27:59 PM #26:	Kazi1212 posted... One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation How does it disrespect an entire nation? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:908183242] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation</quote> How does it disrespect an entire nation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 09/05/18 7:28:37 PM #27:	Bishop9800 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... That wasn't the full quote, you're posting a small part of it which doesn't give the context. Ok, so what was the "full quote"? It was posted in post #22 --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:908183270] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>That wasn't the full quote, you're posting a small part of it which doesn't give the context.</quote> Ok, so what was the "full quote"?</quote> It was posted in post #22</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 09/05/18 7:30:37 PM #28:	Kobe8Bryant24 posted... It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/ --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:908183407] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest.</quote> To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeowMix101 09/05/18 7:31:42 PM #29:	Kobe8Bryant24 posted... Hes not a war hero, said Trump. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured. The remarks, which came after days of back-and-forth between McCain and Trump, were met with scattered boos. McCain, a former Navy pilot, spent roughly five-and-half years in a notorious North Vietnamese prison known as the Hanoi Hilton, where he was repeatedly tortured. He spent two of those years in solitary confinement. At a press availability following his remarks, Trump denied saying that McCain isnt a war hero and said, If somebodys a prisoner, I consider them a war hero. He also continued his attacks on the Arizona senator, saying, I think John McCains done very little for the veterans. Im very disappointed in John McCain. https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/trump-attacks-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured-120317 attacking/saying mean things to a person for being pow at one point is not hitting them while they are down, hitting while they are down would be doing while they are current pow. <cite>MeowMix101 posted [p:908183483] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Hes not a war hero, said Trump. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured. The remarks, which came after days of back-and-forth between McCain and Trump, were met with scattered boos. McCain, a former Navy pilot, spent roughly five-and-half years in a notorious North Vietnamese prison known as the Hanoi Hilton, where he was repeatedly tortured. He spent two of those years in solitary confinement. At a press availability following his remarks, Trump denied saying that McCain isnt a war hero and said, If somebodys a prisoner, I consider them a war hero. He also continued his attacks on the Arizona senator, saying, I think John McCains done very little for the veterans. Im very disappointed in John McCain.</quote> https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/trump-attacks-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured-120317</quote> attacking/saying mean things to a person for being pow at one point is not hitting them while they are down, hitting while they are down would be doing while they are current pow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kobe8Bryant24 09/05/18 7:34:01 PM #30:	Kazi1212 posted... Kobe8Bryant24 posted... It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/ Whether they think so or not, America (or to be specific, the law) supports the decision to stand or not. And as I said, actual men & women in service don't seem to care and gave him a pass. --- I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted [p:908183621] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote> It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. </quote> To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/</quote> Whether they think so or not, America (or to be specific, the law) supports the decision to stand or not. And as I said, actual men & women in service don't seem to care and gave him a pass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kerred 09/05/18 7:34:47 PM #31:	Sorry, I am out of the loop. Is this kneeling anthem thing something no one will remember in 5 years? Or is it something? <cite>Kerred posted [p:908183661] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>Sorry, I am out of the loop. Is this kneeling anthem thing something no one will remember in 5 years? Or is it something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OffTempo 09/05/18 7:35:15 PM #32:	I never got why kneeling during the national anthem was such a controversial issue. Ima say insulting prisoners of war. <cite>OffTempo posted [p:908183683] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>I never got why kneeling during the national anthem was such a controversial issue. Ima say insulting prisoners of war.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 09/05/18 7:36:33 PM #33:	Bishop9800 posted... Kazi1212 posted... One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation How does it disrespect an entire nation? How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:908183759] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation</quote> How does it disrespect an entire nation?</quote> How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 09/05/18 7:37:01 PM #34:	DifferentialEquation posted... Bishop9800 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... That wasn't the full quote, you're posting a small part of it which doesn't give the context. Ok, so what was the "full quote"? It was posted in post #22 Ok, show me where he insulted him on politics and not his military service. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:908183791] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>That wasn't the full quote, you're posting a small part of it which doesn't give the context.</quote> Ok, so what was the "full quote"?</quote> It was posted in post #22</quote> Ok, show me where he insulted him on politics and not his military service.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 09/05/18 7:38:22 PM #35:	Kobe8Bryant24 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Kobe8Bryant24 posted... It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/ Whether they think so or not, America (or to be specific, the law) supports the decision to stand or not. But its not a question about the law, they are perfectly free to kneel. The issue in dispute here is whether its disrespectful, and it seems a majority of Americans interprets such a gesture as such. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:908183872] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote> It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. </quote> To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/</quote> Whether they think so or not, America (or to be specific, the law) supports the decision to stand or not. </quote> But its not a question about the law, they are perfectly free to kneel. The issue in dispute here is whether its disrespectful, and it seems a majority of Americans interprets such a gesture as such.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 09/05/18 7:38:25 PM #36:	Kazi1212 posted... Bishop9800 posted... Kazi1212 posted... One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation How does it disrespect an entire nation? How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful. Really? Please show me where it says that. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:908183879] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation</quote> How does it disrespect an entire nation?</quote> How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful.</quote> Really? Please show me where it says that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeowMix101 09/05/18 7:40:06 PM #37:	OffTempo posted... I never got why kneeling during the national anthem was such a controversial issue. Ima say insulting prisoners of war. well it is like insulting a countries values and all the people who fought and died to protect those values throughout history by kneeling during the anthem, since the anthem usually was to salute soldiers or war veterans in respect for what they gave up to help defend(in most cases) the country <cite>MeowMix101 posted [p:908183982] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>OffTempo posted...</cite> <quote>I never got why kneeling during the national anthem was such a controversial issue. Ima say insulting prisoners of war.</quote> well it is like insulting a countries values and all the people who fought and died to protect those values throughout history by kneeling during the anthem, since the anthem usually was to salute soldiers or war veterans in respect for what they gave up to help defend(in most cases) the country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 09/05/18 7:40:42 PM #38:	Bishop9800 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Bishop9800 posted... Kazi1212 posted... One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation How does it disrespect an entire nation? How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful. Really? Please show me where it says that. Sorry, not disrespectful, inappropriate. Though one can argue disrespectful and inappropriate are somewhat synonymous. You can check out the article I linked that claims a majority of Americans find kneeling for the anthem inappropriate in all contexts. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:908184024] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation</quote> How does it disrespect an entire nation?</quote> How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful.</quote> Really? Please show me where it says that.</quote> Sorry, not disrespectful, inappropriate. Though one can argue disrespectful and inappropriate are somewhat synonymous. You can check out the article I linked that claims a majority of Americans find kneeling for the anthem inappropriate in all contexts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 09/05/18 7:42:18 PM #39:	Kazi1212 posted... Kobe8Bryant24 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Kobe8Bryant24 posted... It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/ Whether they think so or not, America (or to be specific, the law) supports the decision to stand or not. But its not a question about the law, they are perfectly free to kneel. The issue in dispute here is whether its disrespectful, and it seems a majority of Americans interprets such a gesture as such. To be fair, the majority of Americans don't approve of any protests until they've been shown to work. EDIT: Also, it's very much in the nature of protests to piss people off. <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:908184119] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote> It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. </quote> To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/</quote> Whether they think so or not, America (or to be specific, the law) supports the decision to stand or not. </quote> But its not a question about the law, they are perfectly free to kneel. The issue in dispute here is whether its disrespectful, and it seems a majority of Americans interprets such a gesture as such.</quote> To be fair, the majority of Americans don't approve of any protests until they've been shown to work. EDIT: Also, it's very much in the nature of protests to piss people off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 09/05/18 7:42:18 PM #40:	Kazi1212 posted... Bishop9800 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Bishop9800 posted... Kazi1212 posted... One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation How does it disrespect an entire nation? How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful. Really? Please show me where it says that. Sorry, not disrespectful, inappropriate. Though one can argue disrespectful and inappropriate are somewhat synonymous. You can check out the article I linked that claims a majority of Americans find kneeling for the anthem inappropriate in all contexts. what article? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:908184121] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation</quote> How does it disrespect an entire nation?</quote> How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful.</quote> Really? Please show me where it says that.</quote> Sorry, not disrespectful, inappropriate. Though one can argue disrespectful and inappropriate are somewhat synonymous. You can check out the article I linked that claims a majority of Americans find kneeling for the anthem inappropriate in all contexts.</quote> what article?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GetStumped 09/05/18 7:42:19 PM #41:	they are the same thing --- Pepe is not dead he's surely alive https://kek.gg/i/596Gjr.jpg <cite>GetStumped posted [p:908184122] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>they are the same thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kobe8Bryant24 09/05/18 7:42:21 PM #42:	Kazi1212 posted... Kobe8Bryant24 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Kobe8Bryant24 posted... It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/ Whether they think so or not, America (or to be specific, the law) supports the decision to stand or not. But its not a question about the law, they are perfectly free to kneel. The issue in dispute here is whether its disrespectful, and it seems a majority of Americans interprets such a gesture as such. Well, it's fundamentally not disrespectful. The informed opinions of those "standing up" for the military do not agree with citizens and as said, the gesture both doesn't disrespect the military nor is the anthem representative of it. --- I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted [p:908184124] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote> It doesn't disrespect an entire nation and while the modern view of the anthem representing the military is erroneous, servicemen have been cited as not minding the form of protest. </quote> To be fair, most Americans think its never appropriate to kneel during during the anthem. Do you think most military servicemen are ok with the kneeling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/ </quote> Whether they think so or not, America (or to be specific, the law) supports the decision to stand or not. </quote> But its not a question about the law, they are perfectly free to kneel. The issue in dispute here is whether its disrespectful, and it seems a majority of Americans interprets such a gesture as such.</quote> Well, it's fundamentally not disrespectful. The informed opinions of those "standing up" for the military do not agree with citizens and as said, the gesture both doesn't disrespect the military nor is the anthem representative of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 09/05/18 7:52:17 PM #43:	Kobe8Bryant24 posted... Well, it's fundamentally not disrespectful. The informed opinions of those "standing up" for the military do not agree with citizens and as said, the gesture both doesn't disrespect the military nor is the anthem representative of it. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses on whether they think kneeling is disrespectful. What the hell is fundamentally disrespectful anyway? Is giving someone the middle finger fundamentally disrespectful? Also, as I asked earlier, since you keep bringing up military men not having a problem with kneeling, do you think most military men feel that way about kneeling or are you just using the opinions of a small percentage of military servicemen who feel a certain way to prove your point? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:908184739] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote>Well, it's fundamentally not disrespectful. The informed opinions of those "standing up" for the military do not agree with citizens and as said, the gesture both doesn't disrespect the military nor is the anthem representative of it.</quote> Your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses on whether they think kneeling is disrespectful. What the hell is fundamentally disrespectful anyway? Is giving someone the middle finger fundamentally disrespectful? Also, as I asked earlier, since you keep bringing up military men not having a problem with kneeling, do you think most military men feel that way about kneeling or are you just using the opinions of a small percentage of military servicemen who feel a certain way to prove your point?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 09/05/18 7:52:47 PM #44:	Bishop9800 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Bishop9800 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Bishop9800 posted... Kazi1212 posted... One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation How does it disrespect an entire nation? How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful. Really? Please show me where it says that. Sorry, not disrespectful, inappropriate. Though one can argue disrespectful and inappropriate are somewhat synonymous. You can check out the article I linked that claims a majority of Americans find kneeling for the anthem inappropriate in all contexts. what article? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/ --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:908184769] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>One is disrespect aimed at an entire nation</quote> How does it disrespect an entire nation?</quote> How does giving someone the middle finger mean disrespect? Its just raising an arbitrary finger right? What an action means is interpretative based on how society at large comes to interpret specific gestures and such, and in our society most people have decided to interpret kneeling to the anthem as being disrespectful.</quote> Really? Please show me where it says that.</quote> Sorry, not disrespectful, inappropriate. Though one can argue disrespectful and inappropriate are somewhat synonymous. You can check out the article I linked that claims a majority of Americans find kneeling for the anthem inappropriate in all contexts.</quote> what article?</quote> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 09/05/18 7:57:57 PM #45:	Option 1 Is not even a serious answer. Option 2 is you literally insulting a person to their face who went through hell serving and protecting their country and returned with psychological scars and in most cases physical ones too. Option 1 is just turning your nose up at a shitty, meaningless, bland and boring song that could be completely forgotten about and no difference would be made. Anyone voting option 1 should be ashamed of themselves, looked upon as less than human and deported, with citizenship permanently revoked. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:908185079] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>Option 1 Is not even a serious answer. Option 2 is you literally insulting a person to their face who went through hell serving and protecting their country and returned with psychological scars and in most cases physical ones too. Option 1 is just turning your nose up at a shitty, meaningless, bland and boring song that could be completely forgotten about and no difference would be made. Anyone voting option 1 should be ashamed of themselves, looked upon as less than human and deported, with citizenship permanently revoked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kobe8Bryant24 09/05/18 8:00:36 PM #46:	Kazi1212 posted... Kobe8Bryant24 posted... Well, it's fundamentally not disrespectful. The informed opinions of those "standing up" for the military do not agree with citizens and as said, the gesture both doesn't disrespect the military nor is the anthem representative of it. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses on whether they think kneeling is disrespectful. What the hell is fundamentally disrespectful anyway? Is giving someone the middle finger fundamentally disrespectful? Also, as I asked earlier, since you keep bringing up military men not having a problem with kneeling, do you think most military men feel that way about kneeling or are you just using the opinions of a small percentage of military servicemen who feel a certain way to prove your point? I'm not sure if you're trying to dance around the direct but the idea around the values citizens uphold encourage this method of protest. To deny it as a form of protest is going against what opposers are arguing for. They're free to disagree but it seems rather contradictory to claim to hold American values true while denying something the nation allowed, yes? It would be simpler to claim this isn't about what America upholds. You asked about kneeling and my answer of "Yes" to their opinions satiated the condition. Their opinions are relevant as opposers claim they are disrespected. I did not forgo your question as you seem to imply as the previous message. Additionally, it was them as a whole, not a small percentage. --- I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted [p:908185241] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted...</cite> <quote> Well, it's fundamentally not disrespectful. The informed opinions of those "standing up" for the military do not agree with citizens and as said, the gesture both doesn't disrespect the military nor is the anthem representative of it.</quote> Your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses on whether they think kneeling is disrespectful. What the hell is fundamentally disrespectful anyway? Is giving someone the middle finger fundamentally disrespectful? Also, as I asked earlier, since you keep bringing up military men not having a problem with kneeling, do you think most military men feel that way about kneeling or are you just using the opinions of a small percentage of military servicemen who feel a certain way to prove your point?</quote> I'm not sure if you're trying to dance around the direct but the idea around the values citizens uphold encourage this method of protest. To deny it as a form of protest is going against what opposers are arguing for. They're free to disagree but it seems rather contradictory to claim to hold American values true while denying something the nation allowed, yes? It would be simpler to claim this isn't about what America upholds. You asked about kneeling and my answer of "Yes" to their opinions satiated the condition. Their opinions are relevant as opposers claim they are disrespected. I did not forgo your question as you seem to imply as the previous message. Additionally, it was them as a whole, not a small percentage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 09/05/18 8:07:55 PM #47:	To deny it as a form of protest is going against what opposers are arguing for. They're free to disagree but it seems rather contradictory to claim to hold American values true while denying something the nation allowed, yes? It would be simpler to claim this isn't about what America upholds. Perhaps you need to understand the nuanced difference between having an opinion that something is disrespectful, and actively trying to deny individuals from doing something you think is disrespectful or inappropriate. You realize not once in this topic I said we should deny them the right to kneel, right? Additionally, it was them as a whole, not a small percentage. Do you have a source that cites the military as a whole saying kneeling isnt inappropriate? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:908185705] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote><quote>To deny it as a form of protest is going against what opposers are arguing for. They're free to disagree but it seems rather contradictory to claim to hold American values true while denying something the nation allowed, yes? It would be simpler to claim this isn't about what America upholds.</quote> Perhaps you need to understand the nuanced difference between having an opinion that something is disrespectful, and actively trying to deny individuals from doing something you think is disrespectful or inappropriate. You realize not once in this topic I said we should deny them the right to kneel, right? <quote>Additionally, it was them as a whole, not a small percentage.</quote> Do you have a source that cites the military as a whole saying kneeling isnt inappropriate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_Katt_II 09/05/18 8:09:35 PM #48:	second one easily <cite>Devil_Katt_II posted [p:908185806] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>second one easily</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kobe8Bryant24 09/05/18 8:20:43 PM #49:	I never claimed you were the one to do so. I referred to those who have done so. If you are not within their party, you had nothing to worry about. I find it puzzling how my language insinuated that when I said "citizens". Furthermore, the opinion of disrespect and it actually being disrespectful are not mutual. When addressing those who believed so, I examined whether it had support. When addressing whether the nation upheld that belief, there was nary evidence. I went further to say those in the former are free to do but it's disingenuous that the subject matches with the claim. It's in bad faith to claim I denied when I merely suggested they remold what is to be argued. http://www.thecapistranodispatch.com/letter-kneeling-national-anthem-not-disrespect-military/ https://taskandpurpose.com/troops-kaepernick-national-anthem-trump/ --- I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber <cite>Kobe8Bryant24 posted [p:908186523] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>I never claimed you were the one to do so. I referred to those who have done so. If you are not within their party, you had nothing to worry about. I find it puzzling how my language insinuated that when I said "citizens". Furthermore, the opinion of disrespect and it actually being disrespectful are not mutual. When addressing those who believed so, I examined whether it had support. When addressing whether the nation upheld that belief, there was nary evidence. I went further to say those in the former are free to do but it's disingenuous that the subject matches with the claim. It's in bad faith to claim I denied when I merely suggested they remold what is to be argued. http://www.thecapistranodispatch.com/letter-kneeling-national-anthem-not-disrespect-military/ https://taskandpurpose.com/troops-kaepernick-national-anthem-trump/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 09/05/18 8:22:52 PM #50:	16 slurpers. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:908186669] in What's mor... [t:76970611]...</cite> <quote>16 slurpers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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