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Zikten 08/27/18 5:41:23 PM #1: |
https://screenrant.com/batman-atheist-dc-comics/
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Tupacrulez 08/27/18 5:43:38 PM #2: |
Why they had to say it is beyond me.
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E32005 08/27/18 5:44:10 PM #3: |
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CableZL 08/27/18 5:44:20 PM #4: |
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EnterTheTekken 08/27/18 5:44:30 PM #5: |
It just seems like he's in pain and cynical, not really taking a scientific or rational approach to denying deity.
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creativerealms 08/27/18 5:44:59 PM #6: |
I see it more as after all he has experienced there is no room for actual Gods. So called Gods are actually just powerful beings that can be killed. Yeah I know the actual God still exists in DC but with all of Bruce's experiences most gods are not worth worshiping.
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DK9292 08/27/18 5:45:05 PM #7: |
Makes more sense than Iron Man being an atheist and Cap being Christian.
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Vindris_SNH 08/27/18 5:45:08 PM #8: |
Batman is going to hell
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SoundNetwork 08/27/18 5:45:08 PM #9: |
Then why doesn't batman kill people if he's not a believer in our Lord Jesus Christ?
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coinstarcad 08/27/18 6:02:57 PM #10: |
Then make the Joker a Christian.
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darkjedilink 08/27/18 6:06:09 PM #11: |
Tupacrulez posted...
Why they had to say it is beyond me. Why he would be is beyond me - their universe literally has the whole Greek pantheon AND the New Gods. Arguing that there is no God in such a universe is blatant disregard of reality, and about as anti-Batman as you can get. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 08/27/18 6:07:11 PM #12: |
creativerealms posted...
I see it more as after all he has experienced there is no room for actual Gods. So called Gods are actually just powerful beings that can be killed. Yeah I know the actual God still exists in DC but with all of Bruce's experiences most gods are not worth worshiping. It was funny and ironic when Constantine said he was an athiest. This just feels tryhard, especially since nobody is surprised by the "revelation" --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 08/27/18 6:07:15 PM #13: |
darkjedilink posted...
Tupacrulez posted...Why they had to say it is beyond me. I think Batman doesn't consider them true all powerful gods worthy of worship ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 08/27/18 6:09:05 PM #14: |
That's funny because doesn't God and hell actually exist in DC
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Mist_Turnips 08/27/18 6:10:23 PM #15: |
Will neckbeards now move on from Indiana Jones and fedoras and start wearing capes?
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Metro2 08/27/18 6:11:10 PM #16: |
But he exists in the same universe as Superman...
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darkjedilink 08/27/18 6:15:27 PM #17: |
Zikten posted...
darkjedilink posted...Tupacrulez posted...Why they had to say it is beyond me. Irrelevant. Atheists believe such beings don't exist, period. In the DC Multiverse, they do exist, in all universes. Batman knows this, as he's met most. Therefore, he logically cannot be atheist. He doesn't have to worship, but atheism is technically impossible, ESPECIALLY for him (a man who always keeps two gold coins in his utility belt in case he dies, so he can pay the ferryman to cross the river Styx). --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnterTheTekken 08/27/18 6:18:05 PM #18: |
GiftedACIII posted...
That's funny because doesn't God and hell actually exist in DC https://goo.gl/Vogxuy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 08/27/18 6:21:15 PM #19: |
Metro2 posted...
But he exists in the same universe as Superman... Which makes it easier to not believe in a religious God. He has seen "gods" die. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Master_Bass 08/27/18 6:23:15 PM #20: |
Superman a communist and Batman an atheist?! Not in my America!
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Tupacrulez 08/27/18 6:34:17 PM #21: |
darkjedilink posted...
Tupacrulez posted...Why they had to say it is beyond me. While I'd give you that, Atheism in culture has come more to mean specifically "the disbelief in a singular omnipotent being". To Bruce, Zeus isn't God, he's a god. Stupid as that sounds. God is omnipotent and omniscient. A god is a being of much higher strength and vitality than a human. --- Suck less, Rock Moar Have I licked butt hole before? All the time. --r4xor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 08/27/18 6:37:10 PM #22: |
Tupacrulez posted...
darkjedilink posted...Tupacrulez posted...Why they had to say it is beyond me. Isn't the Presence that? --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 08/27/18 6:42:41 PM #23: |
Making statements like that in comic books which are often set in world with actual Gods tends to be a bit silly.
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darkjedilink 08/27/18 6:55:04 PM #24: |
Tupacrulez posted...
darkjedilink posted...Tupacrulez posted...Why they had to say it is beyond me. But that doesn't fly, either - there are omnipotent and omniscient beings in the Multiverse, including God. The Justice League have interacted with them. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 08/27/18 7:00:04 PM #25: |
There is literally heaven and hell in his universe and he has been to hell before. There's a fucking afterlife.
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Broken_Zeus 08/27/18 7:01:57 PM #26: |
It's kind of stupid in a universe with clear evidence of higher and lower powers.
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LockeMonster 08/27/18 7:08:18 PM #27: |
It's not stupid because God and all these other beings exist in DC, it's stupid because Batman and his buddies have personally interacted with them.
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Blue_Inigo 08/27/18 7:10:53 PM #28: |
LockeMonster posted...
It's not stupid because God and all these other beings exist in DC, it's stupid because Batman and his buddies have personally interacted with them. Batman has literally met angels. --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 08/28/18 10:44:30 AM #29: |
Broken_Zeus posted...
It's kind of stupid in a universe with clear evidence of higher and lower powers. That would make it harder for people to accept a God who created everything not easier. He lives in a world where all myths are real and so God's are just more more powerful lifeforms and not worth worshiping. Meeting god, and angels and there being nothing special about them makes it easier to not worshiping them. While in our world being an atheist means not believing in a God or God's in a fictional universe like the DC universe it would be different. They exist but are they worth worshiping. Also were they actually gods or the inspiration for God. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BigSLM1993 08/28/18 10:58:43 AM #30: |
creativerealms posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...It's kind of stupid in a universe with clear evidence of higher and lower powers. I think you worded it better than i would have lol. Like it's easier for us to believe in the biblical tales and creation myths because we'll never meet the people and have to rely on faith that they're real. But if a "god" becomes some dude you've met like 5 times, your buddy Superman who works at the newspaper stands a good chance at beating them up, they don't become "God" to you. They're just another all-powerful dude. It takes away from the "needing" faith component of religion, it's no longer the unknown. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 08/28/18 11:14:55 AM #31: |
SoundNetwork posted...
Then why doesn't batman kill people if he's not a believer in our Lord Jesus Christ? How many people died due to religion again? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 08/28/18 11:21:25 AM #32: |
if all a "god" is is some super powerful alien being then it's not really a god. dunno why some of you are saying it's silly for him to be an atheist. it's more silly to follow a religion in a universe like DC or marvel when you have all sorts of "gods" walking around
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/28/18 11:22:00 AM #33: |
How anyone would be any current religions in comic universes is super implausible.
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TheOlJollyRoger 08/28/18 11:22:24 AM #34: |
Zikten posted...
https://screenrant.com/batman-atheist-dc-comics/ This is just setting up The Devil vs Batman where God will save Batman its so obvious --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/28/18 11:24:13 AM #35: |
ThyCorndog posted...
if all a "god" is is some super powerful alien being then it's not really a god. Eh, what is a god? They have interdimensional beings that have survived multiple "big crunches" and so on. People that control fundamental forces. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jpenny2 08/28/18 11:25:47 AM #36: |
Literal Goddamn Batman
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ThyCorndog 08/28/18 11:28:14 AM #37: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
ThyCorndog posted...if all a "god" is is some super powerful alien being then it's not really a god. I mean if you're a christian or muslim or jew or whatever, it's a blow against your faith rather than supporting evidence for it the moment the greek pantheon walks by also if superheroes fight gods then why are you calling the gods "gods"? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/28/18 8:15:59 PM #38: |
creativerealms posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...It's kind of stupid in a universe with clear evidence of higher and lower powers. As I've already stated, atheists believe that God, and other gods, LITERALLY DO NOT EXIST IN ANY FORM. As in, saying "well, maybe Batman just doesn't view them worthy of worship, so he's an atheist" is literally not knowing what atheism is. If Batman is atheist, that means that, despite his scientific mind telling him to follow the evidence, he literally believes there are no gods. This is despite having to fight a few of them multiple times a year. Despite him literally killing a god. Despite him literally meeting the Judeo-Christian God. Despite him crossing the river Styx. All of these interactions with literal gods, and he believes there is none? How the fuck? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 08/28/18 8:21:27 PM #39: |
CableZL posted...
Makes sense Came in to post this. He's not exactly a devout churchgoer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/28/18 8:22:39 PM #40: |
Dash_Harber posted...
CableZL posted...Makes sense atheism THizm noun disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. He literally cannot be an atheist, because he has no choice but to believe God and/or gods exist. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 08/28/18 8:23:04 PM #41: |
darkjedilink posted...
This is despite having to fight a few of them multiple times a year. Despite him literally killing a god. Despite him literally meeting the Judeo-Christian God. Despite him crossing the river Styx. Don't forget that a lot of them are actually sufficiently advanced aliens (ala New Gods) and that not all comics are cannon because not all the storylines ever published can exist at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 08/28/18 8:23:48 PM #42: |
darkjedilink posted...
He literally cannot be an atheist, because he has no choice but to believe God and/or gods exist. As I said above, not all the stories are cannon and many of the gods he encountered were just super advanced aliens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/28/18 8:24:53 PM #43: |
Dash_Harber posted...
darkjedilink posted...This is despite having to fight a few of them multiple times a year. Despite him literally killing a god. Despite him literally meeting the Judeo-Christian God. Despite him crossing the river Styx. The New Gods are literally a continuation of the Norse pantheon, so they're gods. When Orion was murdered, it was investigated by the Green Lanterns as Deicide (as in, the murder of a god). --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 08/28/18 8:26:10 PM #44: |
darkjedilink posted...
Dash_Harber posted...darkjedilink posted...This is despite having to fight a few of them multiple times a year. Despite him literally killing a god. Despite him literally meeting the Judeo-Christian God. Despite him crossing the river Styx. Technically, Highfather is not Odin. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/28/18 8:27:25 PM #45: |
Dash_Harber posted...
darkjedilink posted...Dash_Harber posted...darkjedilink posted...This is despite having to fight a few of them multiple times a year. Despite him literally killing a god. Despite him literally meeting the Judeo-Christian God. Despite him crossing the river Styx. I know that. There was a war between the New Gods and the Old Gods, and the Norse Pantheon was wiped out. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 08/28/18 8:28:09 PM #46: |
darkjedilink posted...
Dash_Harber posted...darkjedilink posted...Dash_Harber posted...darkjedilink posted...This is despite having to fight a few of them multiple times a year. Despite him literally killing a god. Despite him literally meeting the Judeo-Christian God. Despite him crossing the river Styx. Except, again, multiple universes, and there is nothing proving that the Norse Pantheon was actually gods and not extra-dimensional beings like the New Gods. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 08/28/18 8:29:45 PM #47: |
darkjedilink posted...
Dash_Harber posted...darkjedilink posted...This is despite having to fight a few of them multiple times a year. Despite him literally killing a god. Despite him literally meeting the Judeo-Christian God. Despite him crossing the river Styx. They aren't gods in the sense that they are in charge of the afterlife and/or are responsible for guiding mortals so there's really no reason for batman to believe in or even consider them gods in the way that religions consider them. He's also expresses incredulity towards that one angel guy from the comics and his claim of serving god. It's basically canon that he doesn't consider any of them to be actual gods ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkbuster 08/28/18 8:30:09 PM #48: |
I mean, it won't matter in a few years when the next retcon/reboot comes around, but does this mean he just ignores the fact that he hangs out with, & in some instances, dated a goddess?
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refmon 08/28/18 8:31:49 PM #49: |
All the "gods" he met just use "magic" that science hasn't explained yet
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