Poll of the Day > I'd feel more comfortable tipping for pickup if...

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I knew where that money goes.

If you tip a waiter, you know he gets the money (at worst, it gets split out from his tip but he still gets to keep whatever slice of the pie he earned).

But if you tip for pickup, it just goes into a void. Are you tipping the cashier? Why? Can I tip the cook? They're the only one who did any work.
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It funds NASA stop being cheap
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Just never tip and you know exactly where it goes.
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Just never tip and you know exactly where it goes.

B-b-but t3h guilt!!!1! LITERALLY STEALAN, etc.
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SolidSonicEX posted...

B-b-but t3h guilt!!!1! LITERALLY STEALAN, etc.

What guilt? That corporate propaganda trying to get you to pay personel's wages?
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SolidSonicEX posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Just never tip and you know exactly where it goes.

B-b-but t3h guilt!!!1! LITERALLY STEALAN, etc.

You don't tip if you're picking up.

Tipping is for if you eat in the restaurant and have people waiting on your table, cleaning your table, refilling water, shit like that.

Walking in and grabbing your food is not a situation for tipping.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

SolidSonicEX posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Just never tip and you know exactly where it goes.

B-b-but t3h guilt!!!1! LITERALLY STEALAN, etc.

You don't tip if you're picking up.

Tipping is for if you eat in the restaurant and have people waiting on your table, cleaning your table, refilling water, shit like that.

Walking in and grabbing your food is not a situation for tipping.

No, he was saying dont tip period.
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Tipping is optional
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SolidSonicEX posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

SolidSonicEX posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Just never tip and you know exactly where it goes.

B-b-but t3h guilt!!!1! LITERALLY STEALAN, etc.

You don't tip if you're picking up.

Tipping is for if you eat in the restaurant and have people waiting on your table, cleaning your table, refilling water, shit like that.

Walking in and grabbing your food is not a situation for tipping.

No, he was saying dont tip period.

Then why are you tipping for pickup?
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Muffinz0rz posted...

SolidSonicEX posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

SolidSonicEX posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Just never tip and you know exactly where it goes.

B-b-but t3h guilt!!!1! LITERALLY STEALAN, etc.

You don't tip if you're picking up.

Tipping is for if you eat in the restaurant and have people waiting on your table, cleaning your table, refilling water, shit like that.

Walking in and grabbing your food is not a situation for tipping.

No, he was saying dont tip period.

Then why are you tipping for pickup?

I dont, I was just thinking about it. They have a field there as if theyre wanting a handout.
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Most places when you tip for pickup youre tipping the Togo person. They dont expect as much as a normal table, but something would be nice.

Stop tipping
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Muffinz0rz posted...

You don't tip if you're picking up.

Tipping is for if you eat in the restaurant and have people waiting on your table, cleaning your table, refilling water, shit like that.

Walking in and grabbing your food is not a situation for tipping.

You tip for service when sitting down and being served, or when getting delivery. You don't tip for pick up, all that person does is take your money and hand you the bag with your food in it.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Most places when you tip for pickup youre tipping the Togo person. They dont expect as much as a normal table, but something would be nice.

Do you tip a fast food cashier?
If not, please explain why you tip the To Go person, but not the McDonald's cashier, and how their jobs are so fundamentally different.

streamofthesky posted...

You tip for service when sitting down and being served, or when getting delivery. You don't tip for pick up, all that person does is take your money and hand you the bag with your food in it.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Most places when you tip for pickup youre tipping the Togo person. They dont expect as much as a normal table, but something would be nice.

Do you tip a fast food cashier?
If not, please explain why you tip the To Go person, but not the McDonald's cashier, and how their jobs are so fundamentally different.

One is fast food and one is a restaurant. At the fast food place, the cashier has the opportunity to make more than minimum wage. In a restaurant, your Togo person is trying to work their way up to being a server, and they are making minimum wage (or in a lot of states less than minimum wage)

Nichtcrawler X posted...

SolidSonicEX posted...

B-b-but t3h guilt!!!1! LITERALLY STEALAN, etc.

What guilt? That corporate propaganda trying to get you to pay personel's wages?

So you have a problem with the tipping system, so instead of writing your congressman or advocating for fair wages for servers, you instead exploit the free labor and patronize the companies participating in said practices.

I find it amusing how people who refuse to tip constantly try to pass it off as some noble non compliance in a corrupt system, yet those same people are the reason that corruption is allowed to fester.

Just admit it, you're cheap and you have no empathy for those working hard to make you happy.
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MICHALECOLE posted...

streamofthesky posted...

You tip for service when sitting down and being served, or when getting delivery. You don't tip for pick up, all that person does is take your money and hand you the bag with your food in it.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Most places when you tip for pickup youre tipping the Togo person. They dont expect as much as a normal table, but something would be nice.

Do you tip a fast food cashier?
If not, please explain why you tip the To Go person, but not the McDonald's cashier, and how their jobs are so fundamentally different.

One is fast food and one is a restaurant. At the fast food place, the cashier has the opportunity to make more than minimum wage. In a restaurant, your Togo person is trying to work their way up to being a server, and they are making minimum wage (or in a lot of states less than minimum wage)

I've never heard this. Citation? I thought only servers got the $2.13/hr or whatever base pay.
Even if it is true, the sever hourly wage is supposed to be bumped to actual min. wage if the tips don't bring him/her there anyway.

And I don't recall ever seeing a dedicated "To Go Person," seems like it's always a waiter or even someone from the kitchen that just goes to the booth as needed to hand out pick up orders.
I don't eat out much, take out or dine in, so I don't have a ton of experiences to reference, though.

BADoglick posted...

So you have a problem with the tipping system, so instead of writing your congressman or advocating for fair wages for servers, you instead exploit the free labor and patronize the companies participating in said practices.

I find it amusing how people who refuse to tip constantly try to pass it off as some noble non compliance in a corrupt system, yet those same people are the reason that corruption is allowed to fester.

Just admit it, you're cheap and you have no empathy for those working hard to make you happy.

You would have had a point were I American.

Tipping is not a standard here and foodservice jobs are paid quite well.
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streamofthesky posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

streamofthesky posted...

You tip for service when sitting down and being served, or when getting delivery. You don't tip for pick up, all that person does is take your money and hand you the bag with your food in it.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Most places when you tip for pickup youre tipping the Togo person. They dont expect as much as a normal table, but something would be nice.

Do you tip a fast food cashier?
If not, please explain why you tip the To Go person, but not the McDonald's cashier, and how their jobs are so fundamentally different.

One is fast food and one is a restaurant. At the fast food place, the cashier has the opportunity to make more than minimum wage. In a restaurant, your Togo person is trying to work their way up to being a server, and they are making minimum wage (or in a lot of states less than minimum wage)

I've never heard this. Citation? I thought only servers got the $2.13/hr or whatever base pay.
Even if it is true, the sever hourly wage is supposed to be bumped to actual min. wage if the tips don't bring him/her there anyway.

And I don't recall ever seeing a dedicated "To Go Person," seems like it's always a waiter or even someone from the kitchen that just goes to the booth as needed to hand out pick up orders.
I don't eat out much, take out or dine in, so I don't have a ton of experiences to reference, though.

Citation: Ive always worked in restaurants. You start as a busser if youre a boy or a host if youre a girl (or a gay boy), then you go to togo, then server, then bartender.

And youre right, if they dont make enough to get to minimum wage theyre bumped up to minimum wage, but if you give them two dollars for getting all your shit together and making sure its right and being personable, they can make more than minimum wage.

Obviously things are different depending on the place, but at the seven restaurants I have worked at, this is how it goes.

A lot of times if a restaurant is open for lunch, the bartender will be your Togo person. That means theyre taking tables in the lounge, making drinks for the entire place, serving the bar, and getting your Togos ready. They deserve your tip more than your average Togo person because theyre doing much more work, and a lot of time for nothing because people feel they dont need to tip on pickups.

Now I work in the kitchen, and if you are the one in a thousand guy that tips the kitchen anything anytime? Youre a god among men.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

SolidSonicEX posted...

B-b-but t3h guilt!!!1! LITERALLY STEALAN, etc.

What guilt? That corporate propaganda trying to get you to pay personel's wages?

downside to this is you're not really teaching anyone a lesson. corporate still gets your money and the server just gets fucked over by yet another shitty system.
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Nade Duck posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

SolidSonicEX posted...

B-b-but t3h guilt!!!1! LITERALLY STEALAN, etc.

What guilt? That corporate propaganda trying to get you to pay personel's wages?

downside to this is you're not really teaching anyone a lesson. corporate still gets your money and the server just gets fucked over by yet another shitty system.

People like him dont really care about the corrupt system, theyre just cheap

I never tip more than $1.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

I never tip more than $1.

Then youre cheap and mean

AllstarSniper32 posted...

I never tip more than $1.

That's more than acceptable for a pick up.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

I never tip more than $1.

That's more than acceptable for a pick up.

I never tip anything for pick up.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

I never tip more than $1.

That's more than acceptable for a pick up.

I never tip anything for pick up.

Oh, so a $1 tip on $60 check is ok with you? If so Mikey has a point.
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Just tip nothing if youre going to tip a dollar

You obviously need that dollar more than they do

SunWuKung420 posted...

Oh, so a $1 tip on $60 check is ok with you? If so Mikey has a point.

I've never spent $60 at a restaurant. But if I did eat someplace where my one plate cost $60, no, I wouldn't tip more than a dollar. In fact, if my plate cost that much, I wouldn't tip at all.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Just tip nothing

You don't have to tell me twice.
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@AllstarSniper32

Just tip nothing
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Mead posted...

Just tip nothing

AllstarSniper32 posted...

You don't have to tell me twice.

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MICHALECOLE posted...

People like him dont really care about the corrupt system, theyre just cheap

I am aware about the American stereotypes about us.
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

BADoglick posted...

So you have a problem with the tipping system, so instead of writing your congressman or advocating for fair wages for servers, you instead exploit the free labor and patronize the companies participating in said practices.

I find it amusing how people who refuse to tip constantly try to pass it off as some noble non compliance in a corrupt system, yet those same people are the reason that corruption is allowed to fester.

Just admit it, you're cheap and you have no empathy for those working hard to make you happy.

You would have had a point were I American.

Tipping is not a standard here and foodservice jobs are paid quite well.

Then dont comment on a culture with different standards than yours if you dont want to be challenged on your views? Anyone who frequents a restaurant in America that doesn't tip is an asshole, plain and simple. If you dont believe in tipping culture, then boycott the system entirely and cook your meal at home yourself. But I understand that's too hard for most lazy Americans and it's easier to pretend you're on some high moral, intellectual pedestal while being a giant hypocrite and taking advantage of the same system you're decrying, thus being the biggest part of the problem.

I honestly believe the tipping system should disappear as well but if I go out to eat, I will tip because, otherwise, you're just giving money to the establishment and screwing over the server or bartender while supporting the establishment that goes against your stance on tipping.

Tl;dr

Put your money where your mouth is. Quit being cheap and cook your meals and quit supporting an industry that you claim to be against

OhhhJa posted...

Then dont comment on a culture with different standards than yours if you dont want to be challenged on your views?

Outsiders looking in potentially can see things differently and of course I want to be challenged on my views, as that mean both sides get to think about their arguments and perhaps understand their own position better.

OhhhJa posted...

I honestly believe the tipping system should disappear as well but if I go out to eat, I will tip because, otherwise, you're just giving money to the establishment and screwing over the server or bartender while supporting the establishment that goes against your stance on tipping.

It is a vicious circle, the actions of the individual cannot change the system unless a larger group changes their actions. You know what such groups are made of? Many individuals. The idea that the individual is pointless for trying something different helps keep the system in place.
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I never tip if I'm picking it up. It's a fucking scam.
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I sometimes tip on pick-up. If it's a place that I've been to more than once, and the food is good, then I'll tip.

If it's my first time going, then I won't tip on pick up because maybe they put bugs in my food.

I always tip when I sit down at a restaurant, even though I think tipping is stupid.
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OhhhJa posted...

I honestly believe the tipping system should disappear as well

Based on the rest of your post, you don't actually believe this because you still go to those places and support that system. But go ahead and keep calling everyone else a hypocrites.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

I honestly believe the tipping system should disappear as well

Based on the rest of your post, you don't actually believe this because you still go to those places and support that system. But go ahead and keep calling everyone else a hypocrites.

You're just mad because I called you out on not tipping and pretending you're on some moral high ground when the truth is that you're just cheap. I'm not fervently against tipping like you are but yeah... I think the service industry would overall be better off without it. But when I do go out I'm not just gonna support the establishment snd fuck over the lowly worker

OhhhJa posted...

because I called you out on not tipping and pretending you're on some moral high ground

uh huh. Cause my posts implied that so heavily.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

because I called you out on not tipping and pretending you're on some moral high ground

uh huh. Cause my posts implied that so heavily.

So then you have no real reason for not tipping? You just like taking advantage of people trying to make a living? Is it like a power trip or something?