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Cotton_Eye_Joe 08/26/18 3:32:35 PM #1: |
I think it might have the record for the most cutaways (cutscenes involving none of the playable characters) in the series or even the genre.
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Reis 08/26/18 3:33:30 PM #2: |
no one does this
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 08/26/18 6:43:48 PM #3: |
They don't?
Most people just LOL at it cause it's basically a long retelling of Star Wars in a FF setting. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 08/26/18 6:46:13 PM #4: |
The story is probably XII's most criticized aspect
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KINDERFELD 08/26/18 6:47:05 PM #5: |
Reis posted...
no one does this --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 08/26/18 7:02:03 PM #6: |
MC_BatCommander posted...
The story is probably XII's most criticized aspect I mostly hear complaints about the combat and the soundtrack (and fuck the latter school of thought, XII makes beautiful music). But the topic title is indeed a bizarro take. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 08/26/18 7:03:36 PM #7: |
masterpug53 posted...
I mostly hear complaints about the combat It's funny how a lot of people shit on the gambit system when you can literally turn the damn thing off. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToPoPO 08/26/18 7:03:46 PM #8: |
Everyone that plays it doesn't even know what the fuck the story is about to this day
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MJOLNRVII 08/26/18 7:05:32 PM #9: |
Is this the topic where I get to say Venat and Vayne did nothing wrong?
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yusiko 08/26/18 7:08:00 PM #10: |
almost no one praises the story
its story and characters (minus balthier) are its weakest link the gameplay is great though the story sounds really good on paper but it not executed very well there are some pretentious people who like to sound deeper than they are who pretend that its story is just to deep for people to understand because they dont know the difference between an idea and execution --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 08/26/18 7:08:56 PM #11: |
I literally can't remember half of the main characters' names
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masterpug53 08/26/18 7:12:57 PM #12: |
Garioshi posted...
I literally can't remember half of the main characters' names Balthier, Fran and to a lesser extent Basch are the only ones worth remembering. Ashe and Penelo are serviceable but forgettable. Vaan actively drags the game down with his presence and is one of the few characters truly deserving of the Internet hate machine (to this day I still don't know why people lump Penelo with him; even at her worst she's harmless). --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 08/26/18 7:15:35 PM #13: |
fran is terrible
she is almost as pointless as vaan and penelo her only saving grace is her exposed ass cheeks which dont appeal to everyone. penelo has a good design but she is pointless --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 08/26/18 7:22:07 PM #14: |
yusiko posted...
fran is terrible Get the fuck out --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 08/26/18 7:29:56 PM #15: |
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fusespliff 08/26/18 7:34:38 PM #16: |
yusiko posted...
her only saving grace is her exposed ass cheeks which dont appeal to everyone. Shouldn't you be going gaga for Vaan then? --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 08/26/18 7:35:10 PM #17: |
fusespliff posted...
yusiko posted...her only saving grace is her exposed ass cheeks which dont appeal to everyone. he has an ugly face and his abs look fucking weird balthier is the hottest --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fusespliff 08/26/18 7:36:53 PM #18: |
yusiko posted...
fusespliff posted...yusiko posted...her only saving grace is her exposed ass cheeks which dont appeal to everyone. The point was that you're assuming Fran is only liked by straight men because of exposed skin. Therefore as a gay man, you should absolutely love Vaan. --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 08/26/18 7:38:59 PM #19: |
fusespliff posted...
yusiko posted...fusespliff posted...yusiko posted...her only saving grace is her exposed ass cheeks which dont appeal to everyone. i only assumed fran was liked for her exposed skin because she has next to no character traits worth liking not because she is scantily clad velvet from tales of berseria is pretty much naked from the front and i dont think people like her just because of their erections but because of her character and their erections thats the big difference --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame Zero 08/26/18 7:41:42 PM #20: |
I didn't mind the combat. It was like KOTOR or Dragon Age 1 a bit. The problem was the gameplay itself was like a single-player MMO. Long stretches of areas with minimal plot, an nearly all of the sidequests were basically just raids (Hunter Clan).
And on topic, the story really wasn't good. Oddly enough, the writing of the dialoge was great, it's just that there was nothing there to make it interesting. They were going the FFT route of political intrigue, but it was just all uneventful. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VectorChaos 08/26/18 7:43:44 PM #21: |
MJOLNRVII posted...
Is this the topic where I get to say Venat and Vayne did nothing wrong? Real talk, they did a lot of wrong shit, but But I don't think there was any other way to make it happen. And let's be real, the power of Nethecite from the Sun Cryst shouldn't be in anyone's hands. It's a fucking magic WMD and Nabradia in the game shows how its Mist lingers even afterwards like radiation, generating and luring horrific creatures for years after the initial destruction and making the land uninhabitable. --- "Donald Trump has the most presidential penis of all time" - DifferentialEquation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VerisimiIitude 08/26/18 7:48:04 PM #22: |
masterpug53 posted...
Garioshi posted...I literally can't remember half of the main characters' names Ashe at least had plot relevance. Cant for the life of me remember why Fran tagged along for most of the story. But yeah most characters were pretty forgettable and while a story that focuses on world building and political intrigue seems great, its execution was poor, the pacing felt off, and it felt like a lot of wasted potential by the end. --- Onyx87 Feel the love... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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southcoast09 08/26/18 7:48:15 PM #23: |
masterpug53 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...The story is probably XII's most criticized aspect The combat was unacceptably bad. Hey, people are pissed that we made the last game online-only, so lets use the same boring combat system and make it not online. --- #MakeFinalFantasyGreatAgain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alphagamble 08/26/18 7:49:09 PM #24: |
I'm a pretty big fan of 12 but I don't hold the story in much regard
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yusiko 08/26/18 8:07:53 PM #25: |
VerisimiIitude posted...
Ashe at least had plot relevance. Cant for the life of me remember why Fran tagged along for most of the story. she was balthiers sidekick that was it she was the chewbacca clone only with a few lines that werent just roars which is a shame cause it would have been more interesting if her lines were just chewbacca noises with balthier understanding her --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KINDERFELD 08/26/18 8:42:00 PM #26: |
yusiko posted...
VerisimiIitude posted...Ashe at least had plot relevance. Cant for the life of me remember why Fran tagged along for most of the story. And you didn't find at anytime, characters in other protagonists' storylines that were underdeveloped? --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 08/26/18 8:46:24 PM #27: |
KINDERFELD posted...
And you didn't find at anytime, characters in other protagonists' storylines that were underdeveloped? vaan and penelo's storylines were pretty much non existent but balthier, ashe and basch had complete arcs it actually makes fran worse because she does have a tiny bit of relevance that goes nowhere where as vaan and penelo were always clearly just an afterthought to the writers --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 08/26/18 8:48:14 PM #28: |
People love Yuffie and Vincent even though they were mega irrelevant to the story. Especially Yuffie
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KayfabeTactics 08/26/18 8:48:48 PM #29: |
Some people like it because it's connected to Final Fantasy Tactics
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creativerealms 08/26/18 8:49:00 PM #30: |
There is a great story in Final Fantasy XII. Problem is we only get bits and pieces of that story while following a side story with side characters.
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yusiko 08/26/18 8:50:09 PM #32: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
People love Yuffie and Vincent even though they were mega irrelevant to the story. Especially Yuffie yuffie had an entire sidequest and a boss rush solo to round out her character fran didnt have that plus ff7 had 9 party members so its accepted that some characters would get a lot less focus than others ff12 only had 6 and 3 were under developed even final fantasy 8 gave selphie, zell, quistis and irvine more depth before making them background noise --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KINDERFELD 08/26/18 8:51:08 PM #33: |
creativerealms posted...
There is a great story in Final Fantasy XII. Problem is we only get bits and pieces of that story while following a side story with side characters. True. Compared to the horse manure of a storyline in games like Octopath Traveler, FF12's writing was god tier. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_MorningStar 08/26/18 8:57:55 PM #34: |
I loved everything about FFXII. I need to get the remastered edition.
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SageHarpuia 08/26/18 8:59:25 PM #35: |
I hate all Final Fantasy games that I can't play on a Nintendo system
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masterpug53 08/26/18 9:05:08 PM #36: |
yusiko posted...
fran is terrible Said cheeks in and of themselves gives her more value than most of the rest of the party. And since when is selective appeal a bad thing? --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 08/26/18 9:06:01 PM #37: |
KINDERFELD posted...
creativerealms posted...There is a great story in Final Fantasy XII. Problem is we only get bits and pieces of that story while following a side story with side characters. I don't judge the story of games I have not played. I haven't played octopath yet. What does that even have to do with anything? --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KINDERFELD 08/26/18 9:07:39 PM #38: |
creativerealms posted...
KINDERFELD posted...creativerealms posted...There is a great story in Final Fantasy XII. Problem is we only get bits and pieces of that story while following a side story with side characters. People praise that game's writing when its atrocious however FF12 which is significantly better in terms of storyline, gets criticized. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Behaviorism 08/26/18 9:08:05 PM #39: |
No talk of Ashe's butt?
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creativerealms 08/26/18 9:09:11 PM #40: |
KINDERFELD posted...
creativerealms posted...KINDERFELD posted...creativerealms posted...There is a great story in Final Fantasy XII. Problem is we only get bits and pieces of that story while following a side story with side characters. But I wasn't. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KINDERFELD 08/26/18 9:09:48 PM #41: |
creativerealms posted...
KINDERFELD posted...creativerealms posted...KINDERFELD posted...creativerealms posted...There is a great story in Final Fantasy XII. Problem is we only get bits and pieces of that story while following a side story with side characters. Did I ever say you were? --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_MorningStar 08/26/18 9:10:50 PM #42: |
creativerealms posted...
KINDERFELD posted...creativerealms posted...KINDERFELD posted...creativerealms posted...There is a great story in Final Fantasy XII. Problem is we only get bits and pieces of that story while following a side story with side characters. Lol @ being needlessly combative. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 08/26/18 9:12:27 PM #43: |
_MorningStar posted...
creativerealms posted...KINDERFELD posted...creativerealms posted...KINDERFELD posted...creativerealms posted...There is a great story in Final Fantasy XII. Problem is we only get bits and pieces of that story while following a side story with side characters. He brought up the game for no reason as a response to me. I was wondering why. What's wrong with that? --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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