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marthsheretoo posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

How about taking my words at face value instead of just assuming Im somehow endorsing what the TC is saying? I said I appreciate the quality, not the TC personally. Christ, is that so hard? I just had a thought in my head about folllowing your beliefs because of this topic and posted about, can you be a bit more charitable and not assume the worst of me with a small post?

What you choose not to say is just as important as what you actually do say. Words do not exist in a vacuum. This is how communication works, how it has always worked, and how it will continue to work.

If 9/11 had just happened and I said I thought Bin Laden was hot instead of commenting on the tragedy, people would rightfully be upset with me. "But all I said is that I find him attractive! Cut me some slack, don't assume I agree with me just because I like his facial hair!"

Or maybe what I thought was worth commenting was indicative of something? Hmmm.

Do you think this topic is as serious or similar to the scenario you described with 9/11? TC is a known shitposter, people post off topic comments in his topics all the time because theyre garbage, just look at this topic. You forgot to add that communication is also based on context, and given the context I laid out, I dont think its unreasonable to give me a more charitable interpretation of what I said, that Im just posting thoughts that have nothing to do with the topic or endorsing TC, just like so many others are doing right now. Do you think Im being totally unreasonable?
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Ruid can only be Hey. He has such a hate for transgenders.

ThatMuttGuy posted...

Ruid can only be Hey. He has such a hate for transgenders.

I think you're right. He posts very similar to the Russman account

Vicious_Dios posted...

SalazarCrane posted...

Yeah, it's tough when your beliefs would be more in line with the 1700s. How terrible that you have to catch up.

Catching up?

So, you're admitting that you caved in to peer pressure. Me, I don't have that problem.

Yet you've stated before that you're against gay marriage because of your bullshit "culture".

Please don't lie.
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BWing posted...

ThatMuttGuy posted...

Ruid can only be Hey. He has such a hate for transgenders.

I think you're right. He posts very similar to the Russman account

His family must have gotten murdered by a transgendered assassin.

ThatMuttGuy posted...

BWing posted...

ThatMuttGuy posted...

Ruid can only be Hey. He has such a hate for transgenders.

I think you're right. He posts very similar to the Russman account

His family must have gotten murdered by a transgendered assassin.

Maybe he was turned down by one?

BWing posted...

ThatMuttGuy posted...

BWing posted...

ThatMuttGuy posted...

Ruid can only be Hey. He has such a hate for transgenders.

I think you're right. He posts very similar to the Russman account

His family must have gotten murdered by a transgendered assassin.

Maybe he was turned down by one?

That's also a very real possibility. Lord knows I wouldn't blame anyone for turning him down.

marthsheretoo posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

How about taking my words at face value instead of just assuming Im somehow endorsing what the TC is saying? I said I appreciate the quality, not the TC personally. Christ, is that so hard? I just had a thought in my head about folllowing your beliefs because of this topic and posted about, can you be a bit more charitable and not assume the worst of me with a small post?

What you choose not to say is just as important as what you actually do say. Words do not exist in a vacuum. This is how communication works, how it has always worked, and how it will continue to work.

If 9/11 had just happened and I said I thought Bin Laden was hot instead of commenting on the tragedy, people would rightfully be upset with me. "But all I said is that I find him attractive! Cut me some slack, don't assume I agree with me just because I like his facial hair!"

Or maybe what I thought was worth commenting was indicative of something? Hmmm.

This is an excellent point, considering how gamefaqs had a big yellow disclaimer about how harshly people would be punished for posting anything making fun or making light of 9/11 for years after the event took place. You would have been insta-banned for saying something like that. This topic has existed for a long enough time to confirm that tc will not be insta-banned.
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Ruid posted...

kinetika_ posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

I just don't think the fundamental mindset around transgenderism is right.

It's all this black-and-white thinking that they can't just be effeminate men or masculine women and they HAVE to be the opposite sex because there's no in-between.

I feel like there are people who are neurologically nearly identical to transgenders but don't try to live as the opposite sex because they have a different outlook.

This is me. I'm a very effeminate man that wishes they were a physical woman, but the transition thing isn't a solution that I find good enough/appealing, so I live a "normal" life and don't let it bother me; however, on the internet, I let my true self come out and most people either assume I'm female or they accept who I am and just roll with it.

It's like there's such a stigma on being gay that people would rather JUMP SHIP than carry the label. Too many Mr. Garrisons.

Are you saying I'm gay...? You're ignorant if you think that. I'm very sexually attracted to women, and though I may be bisexual, I would never date a man and would feel very uncomfortable in a romantic relationship with one. It wouldn't feel "right" to me, the same way getting a sex change wouldn't feel "right" for me.
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Hexenherz posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

SalazarCrane posted...

Yeah, it's tough when your beliefs would be more in line with the 1700s. How terrible that you have to catch up.

lol you don't have to back that far. Transgenderism didn't enter mainstream prominence until fairly recently. And it didn't even really gain traction in the LGBT movement until the 90's.

https://www.the-numinous.com/2016/07/06/native-american-two-spirits/

I have no idea what sort of site this source is, but I googled "Transgenderism in Native American culture" and it was one of the first links. There were several others if you want to look into it. I saw a documentary on this years ago, probably in the 90s in fact. All I could remember was the fact that the premise was that in some Native American cultures, there were 5 genders, essentially, straight male and female, gay male and female, and a 5th that considered pan-gender and pansexual. It had the word Spirit in the title and spoke about these cultural views having existed prior to America being colonized. Mainstream or not, such views on gender have existed throughout history for much longer than the American LGBT movement.

There are several societies throughout the world where transgenderism exists in some form or another and it is an entirely normal part of society. Like a natural third gender, in a way.

Oh I know. The usual suspects will ignore my post though. The truth triggers them.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Trigger Zero posted...

No, but if you are expressing a want to identify someone truly, you identify them as they define themselves, not how you choose to.

Is the middle aged man who identifies as an 8 year old girl really an 8 year old girl, since that's how he identifies?

This depends on your explanation of whether or not humans can transcend time and if so how exactly and for what specific purpose would it be in the particular case of this individual.
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Ruid posted...

BWing posted...

Ruid posted...

I went to school like everyone else and I remember being told "When you grow up, you can be anything you want!"

I had enough sense to realize that they meant CAREER-WISE! Some people really ran with that shit...

Have you ever talked to an actual trans person? It's not what they WANT. It's who they are. They want nothing more than to feel "normal".

A feminine gay guy isn't a woman. He's a feminine gay guy and that is a perfectly okay thing for somebody to be. A more masculine lesbian woman is just that...a masculine lesbian woman...and that also is perfectly fine.

No one said that's not fine. No one said that transgender people fall into those categories (no one who isn't close-minded at least)
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For not caring there sure are a lot of people up in their feelings in here, personal attacks galore lol.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

marthsheretoo posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

How about taking my words at face value instead of just assuming Im somehow endorsing what the TC is saying? I said I appreciate the quality, not the TC personally. Christ, is that so hard? I just had a thought in my head about folllowing your beliefs because of this topic and posted about, can you be a bit more charitable and not assume the worst of me with a small post?

What you choose not to say is just as important as what you actually do say. Words do not exist in a vacuum. This is how communication works, how it has always worked, and how it will continue to work.

If 9/11 had just happened and I said I thought Bin Laden was hot instead of commenting on the tragedy, people would rightfully be upset with me. "But all I said is that I find him attractive! Cut me some slack, don't assume I agree with me just because I like his facial hair!"

Or maybe what I thought was worth commenting was indicative of something? Hmmm.

This is an excellent point, considering how gamefaqs had a big yellow disclaimer about how harshly people would be punished for posting anything making fun or making light of 9/11 for years after the event took place. You would have been insta-banned for saying something like that. This topic has existed for a long enough time to confirm that tc will not be insta-banned.

It's just another false equivalence.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Schwarber posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Wow thats a whole of I dont care posts, I wonder if theyre even remotely aware of the irony here

I don't think you know what irony is. Please explain to the class how you think this is ironic.

Henry Watson Fowler, in The King's English, says, "any definition of ironythough hundreds might be given, and very few of them would be acceptedmust include this, that the surface meaning and the underlying meaning of what is said are not the same."

If we use that as a broad benchmark for irony, the surface meaning of the multiple people posting I dont care seems different than the underlying meaning of all these people feeling the need to actually post in a shit topic and needlessly giving it more attention than it deserves. Is that a reasonable assessment of the irony here you think?

This does not translate to internet message boards. Had all of these posters simply ignored this topic, there would be no indicator to the tc of said ignoring. No one would be silly enough to assume that literally every CE user saw their post but chose not to respond to it, so the only way to indicate a lack of caring is to outwardly express it, which requires posting. Your assessment of irony does not apply in this case for that very reason. Ignoring someone is a conscious expression of not caring. There is no non-conscious method to express not caring, because if a person is not conscious of someone or something, they do not notice it at all, and one can't acknowledge that which one fails to notice

I appreciate your thorough response but I have to contend this notion. The attitude of not caring translates into the real world the same way in the online world, by ignoring it. I understand what youre saying, but some forms of human expression are consistent across mediums, not caring being one of them.

I will still address this though. When you walk by a homeless person ranting and asking for money and you ignore them, you've made a statement. It will not be assumed that you didn't notice them.

Additionally, several have expressed that "I don't care" was meant as "Your opinion has no more effect on me than the effect of influencing me to express that it has such little effect on me, and no more than that," which is not invalid. The only valid qualifier for irony would be if these same users continued to argue with you at an accelerated pace. "I don't care what you have to say" becomes irony if the exchange devolves and reaches a point where they are melting down about what you said.

Ok heres where differ, in the first paragraph you seem to be assuming people care about making a statement when walking by a homeless person. Some people might, but quite a few literally just dont care to even bother acknowledging the existence of the homeless person. When I hear I dont care I dont interpret it as making a statement to the person I dont care, I interpret it literally not caring about whether the person knows you dont care.

As for your second paragraph, can you quote me the posters who further commented about its not really that the dont care? Also, couple of the posters who said they dont care continued to respond to the TC in later posts.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

You can always tell when Mal think's he's clever as he starts repeating himself lmao

If you could actually answer the questions I wouldn't have to

Good point and I agree with you. Now go back and respond to all of my posts so far in this topic without ignoring anything or editing anything out so that I can't accuse you of being able to address my points the way you are accusing those who disagree with you of failing to address your points.
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kinetika_ posted...

Ruid posted...

kinetika_ posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

I just don't think the fundamental mindset around transgenderism is right.

It's all this black-and-white thinking that they can't just be effeminate men or masculine women and they HAVE to be the opposite sex because there's no in-between.

I feel like there are people who are neurologically nearly identical to transgenders but don't try to live as the opposite sex because they have a different outlook.

This is me. I'm a very effeminate man that wishes they were a physical woman, but the transition thing isn't a solution that I find good enough/appealing, so I live a "normal" life and don't let it bother me; however, on the internet, I let my true self come out and most people either assume I'm female or they accept who I am and just roll with it.

It's like there's such a stigma on being gay that people would rather JUMP SHIP than carry the label. Too many Mr. Garrisons.

Are you saying I'm gay...? You're ignorant if you think that. I'm very sexually attracted to women, and though I may be bisexual, I would never date a man and would feel very uncomfortable in a romantic relationship with one. It wouldn't feel "right" to me, the same way getting a sex change wouldn't feel "right" for me.

When I was in school, TONS of the guys would joke "I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body!"

I've even said it a couple of times. I never thought it would be said in a serious tone. And no, bisexual isn't the same as gay.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Hexenherz posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

SalazarCrane posted...

Yeah, it's tough when your beliefs would be more in line with the 1700s. How terrible that you have to catch up.

lol you don't have to back that far. Transgenderism didn't enter mainstream prominence until fairly recently. And it didn't even really gain traction in the LGBT movement until the 90's.

https://www.the-numinous.com/2016/07/06/native-american-two-spirits/

I have no idea what sort of site this source is, but I googled "Transgenderism in Native American culture" and it was one of the first links. There were several others if you want to look into it. I saw a documentary on this years ago, probably in the 90s in fact. All I could remember was the fact that the premise was that in some Native American cultures, there were 5 genders, essentially, straight male and female, gay male and female, and a 5th that considered pan-gender and pansexual. It had the word Spirit in the title and spoke about these cultural views having existed prior to America being colonized. Mainstream or not, such views on gender have existed throughout history for much longer than the American LGBT movement.

There are several societies throughout the world where transgenderism exists in some form or another and it is an entirely normal part of society. Like a natural third gender, in a way.

Oh I know. The usual suspects will ignore my post though. The truth triggers them.

I think you two misunderstand me.

I was talking about the prominence and level of acceptance of transgenderism in American culture. I'm well aware that transgenderism can be found in other cultures, ancient cultures and civilizations. I'm not saying it's a new invention.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Trigger Zero posted...

No, but if you are expressing a want to identify someone truly, you identify them as they define themselves, not how you choose to.

Is the middle aged man who identifies as an 8 year old girl really an 8 year old girl, since that's how he identifies?

If he did in a way that he didn't affect others in any negative way, first I would have to see it in practice, then yes, I would acquiesce and let him to identify as such. The age is the caveat. That's a young age for anyone to take care of themselves, and they might be impressionable, or temperamental. They might even be troublemakers. I would find it hard to act like I was not acting in my consideration, but if I were truly looking out for the intentions of a 8 year old, I would insult the kid at the very least, or set them off violently if they were I'll tempered.

There would be a way to vet and understand. Either the man is acting, or he has a reason to be acting this way legitimately. I would make attempts to understand why the former is, and be all right with myself in the latter. The innocent don't have a choice that they can't understand better.

You have to try harder to excuse your prejudice.
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Who the shit cares if you don't feel comfortable,

Who the hell cares if they don't feel comfortable?

I dunno, I chose a side when I came in here and went with it.
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You can't stop someone from identifying as anything. You can only disagree.

"I would acquiesce and let him to identify as such." pfffft...hahahaha!

Ruid posted...

You can't stop someone from identifying as anything. You can only disagree.

"I would acquiesce and let him to identify as such." pfffft...hahahaha!

Lol
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Trigger Zero posted...

If he did in a way that he didn't affect others in any negative way, first I would have to see it in practice, then yes, I would acquiesce and let him to identify as such

Holy shit what absolute delusion, entertaining stupid crap like this is why we have religions like Scientology thriving. There's a difference between being open and not prejudiced and accepting laughable stuff like this. At some point you have to call out the bullshit, jesus

You're stealing their soul if you don't use the right pronouns.
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If they've made the transition (surgery and all) then I have no issue with it.

Kazi1212 posted...

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You're looking at it from the perspective of the person doing the ignoring. If I haven't expressed that my position is rooted around the perspective of the homeless person, I apologize, but that is how I am looking at it. One doesn't have to say "I don't care." One just has to give a basic indication of lack of caring, and ignoring is sufficient to do this. Ignoring said homeless person as compared to ignoring a topic on gamefaqs would be more accurate if we change the scenario so that the homeless person is unconscious. They are not aware of who might pass them by. Topic creator is not aware of who clicks but chooses not to post. Conscious and alert homeless person can see who walks by and can read them, whether they are reactive or non-reactive, responsive or unresponsive. You can walk by a passed out person and ignore them but you don't prove a point. If you don't have a point to try and prove, that's fine, you won't bother. They're passed out. They aren't actively making an effort to express anything. They're the gamefaqs equivalent of not making a topic in the first place.

As for the 2nd paragraph, well... do you want a medal for inciting people to troll you after you were all like "lol troll me I dare ya?" I mean I probably got some participation medal for beating first grade but it was probably thrown out like 25 years ago when I didn't care anymore. I'm not defending those people. I'm not quoting them. I didn't read their posts. I assumed they existed and had done that and I left my previous posts open to accommodate for their actions and even implied that I assumed they had done what they had done. That's not a "gotcha" unless no one actually did that and you went complete reverse psychology on me, but I wouldn't expect that of you, though I'd pay attention if you actually pulled it off.
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Funbazooka posted...

You're stealing their soul if you don't use the right pronouns.

In other news, sneegsnargn flleeeeeglfrlorrp zdi urk dilgbluouorrn
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Say what now
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Funbazooka posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Hexenherz posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

SalazarCrane posted...

Yeah, it's tough when your beliefs would be more in line with the 1700s. How terrible that you have to catch up.

lol you don't have to back that far. Transgenderism didn't enter mainstream prominence until fairly recently. And it didn't even really gain traction in the LGBT movement until the 90's.

https://www.the-numinous.com/2016/07/06/native-american-two-spirits/

I have no idea what sort of site this source is, but I googled "Transgenderism in Native American culture" and it was one of the first links. There were several others if you want to look into it. I saw a documentary on this years ago, probably in the 90s in fact. All I could remember was the fact that the premise was that in some Native American cultures, there were 5 genders, essentially, straight male and female, gay male and female, and a 5th that considered pan-gender and pansexual. It had the word Spirit in the title and spoke about these cultural views having existed prior to America being colonized. Mainstream or not, such views on gender have existed throughout history for much longer than the American LGBT movement.

There are several societies throughout the world where transgenderism exists in some form or another and it is an entirely normal part of society. Like a natural third gender, in a way.

Oh I know. The usual suspects will ignore my post though. The truth triggers them.

I think you two misunderstand me.

I was talking about the prominence and level of acceptance of transgenderism in American culture. I'm well aware that transgenderism can be found in other cultures, ancient cultures and civilizations. I'm not saying it's a new invention.

Oh, well that's good to know. The more knowledge you have on that subject, the more you can contribute to this topic, so by all means share and don't be shy :P
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Funbazooka posted...

Say what now

Factually, means as much as what you said.
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ThatMuttGuy posted...

I think I speak for everyone when I say, shut the fuck up no one cares.

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If you have no problem referring to someone by their nickname idk why a gender is such a huge deal tbh
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Say what now

Factually, means as much as what you said.

It's as big of a deal as you want it to be.
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Sounds like you are pretty insecure. It seems odd that you demand a biological profile of someone before even addressing them.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

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You're looking at it from the perspective of the person doing the ignoring. If you don't have a point to try and prove, that's fine, you won't bother.

I assumed they existed and had done that and I left my previous posts open to accommodate for their actions and even implied that I assumed they had done what they had done.

Yes of course Im looking at it from the perspective from the person doing the supposed ignoring, because thats who my comment was regarding. If you really dont care, you wouldnt care about the person knowing you dont care, theres no point in making a statement.

As for the second paragraph, correct me Im wrong but you agree theres posters here who posted they dont care but went on to respond to TCs post and his garbage points anyway? If thats the case, to bring our conversation back to what you originally responded to me for, is that not irony iyo?
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Funbazooka posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Say what now

Factually, means as much as what you said.

It's as big of a deal as you want it to be.

Okay? I didn't know we were talking about what I want. I was talking about human history.
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NeverOffended posted...

Trigger Zero posted...

If he did in a way that he didn't affect others in any negative way, first I would have to see it in practice, then yes, I would acquiesce and let him to identify as such

Holy shit what absolute delusion, entertaining stupid crap like this is why we have religions like Scientology thriving. There's a difference between being open and not prejudiced and accepting laughable stuff like this. At some point you have to call out the bullshit, jesus

That the fact I was talking about the less abled speaks volumes about how you see people.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Say what now

Factually, means as much as what you said.

It's as big of a deal as you want it to be.

Okay? I didn't know we were talking about what I want. I was talking about human history.

Oh, here I thought you brought up that point because it you thought it was important. Yea if youre speaking historical facts youre definitely right
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i agree.if you were born a male,thats how i address you and vice versa.sorry,but you can't just become what you to be as far as gender is concerned.
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Its not mentally healthy

RainShower posted...

i agree.if you were born a male,thats how i address you and vice versa.sorry,but you can't just become what you to be as far as gender is concerned.

And how do you tell what people were born? Do you demand that everyone you meet exchange birth certificates with you?

RainShower posted...

i agree.if you were born a male,thats how i address you and vice versa.sorry,but you can't just become what you to be as far as gender is concerned.

You're not becoming women by calling other men women. You have to add to your definition of gender pronouns, not replace them.
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Trigger Zero posted...

NeverOffended posted...

Trigger Zero posted...

If he did in a way that he didn't affect others in any negative way, first I would have to see it in practice, then yes, I would acquiesce and let him to identify as such

Holy shit what absolute delusion, entertaining stupid crap like this is why we have religions like Scientology thriving. There's a difference between being open and not prejudiced and accepting laughable stuff like this. At some point you have to call out the bullshit, jesus

That the fact I was talking about the less abled speaks volumes about how you see people.

You were talking about a middle-aged man trying to claim he is a female 8 year old child, that speaks volumes about how delusional you are. What an absolutely embarrassing stance to take, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone lol. I guess some people are so obsessed with wanting to be viewed as a open and accepting person that they will throw all common sense out the window.

Kazi1212 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

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You're looking at it from the perspective of the person doing the ignoring. If you don't have a point to try and prove, that's fine, you won't bother.

I assumed they existed and had done that and I left my previous posts open to accommodate for their actions and even implied that I assumed they had done what they had done.

Yes of course Im looking at it from the perspective from the person doing the supposed ignoring, because thats who my comment was regarding. If you really dont care, you wouldnt care about the person knowing you dont care, theres no point in making a statement.

As for the second paragraph, correct me Im wrong but you agree theres posters here who posted they dont care but went on to respond to TCs post and his garbage points anyway? If thats the case, to bring our conversation back to what you originally responded to me for, is that not irony iyo?

The person doing the ignoring must have the self-awareness to know that the one they are ignoring interprets their ignoring actively. In other words, if the walker walks by and then thinks "did this person know I was ignoring them?" they have not accomplished their goal. Ignoring on the internet without responding makes this goal very difficult to attain.

You're looking for a "gotcha" but again you've confined yourself to a box. There may be posters here who have followed this topic since stating they do not care who have contradicted said statement. I do not know. I did not make it point to familiarize myself with every poster, so I can concede it is possible but I cannot confirm. In terms of the timeline regarding the initial "I don't care" posts and your initial "lol that's not irony" posts and my initial posts, well, I simply don't know. I'm not basing anything off of that. If people took your low-dangling bait, that's on them. I don't speak for that lot. The only umbrella-point I'm trying to make here is that one must indicate somehow "I'm ignoring you..." to a person they wish to know is being ignored by them.
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How about we just start referring to everybody as "person"? I can definitely agree to that.

NeverOffended posted...

Trigger Zero posted...

NeverOffended posted...

Trigger Zero posted...

If he did in a way that he didn't affect others in any negative way, first I would have to see it in practice, then yes, I would acquiesce and let him to identify as such

Holy shit what absolute delusion, entertaining stupid crap like this is why we have religions like Scientology thriving. There's a difference between being open and not prejudiced and accepting laughable stuff like this. At some point you have to call out the bullshit, jesus

That the fact I was talking about the less abled speaks volumes about how you see people.

You were talking about a middle-aged man trying to claim he is a female 8 year old child, that speaks volumes about how delusional you are. What an absolutely embarrassing stance to take, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone lol. I guess some people are so obsessed with wanting to be viewed as a open and accepting person that they will throw all common sense out the window.

If a 38 year old special needs man told me he was a little girl, because he lacked the necessary whatever to know otherwise, I wouldn't argue with him. I would let him call himself a girl if in the end it wouldn't affect anything. I wouldn't make a 38 year old special needs person cry or throw a fit because I chose to disagree with his gender choice. Otherwise, yes, I would be suspicious why he was acting like one. I would be careful to immediately judge though until I know more.
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Kazi1212 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Say what now

Factually, means as much as what you said.

It's as big of a deal as you want it to be.

Okay? I didn't know we were talking about what I want. I was talking about human history.

Oh, here I thought you brought up that point because it you thought it was important. Yea if youre speaking historical facts youre definitely right

I'm not sure what you're saying here.
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Kazi1212 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Say what now

Factually, means as much as what you said.

It's as big of a deal as you want it to be.

Okay? I didn't know we were talking about what I want. I was talking about human history.

Oh, here I thought you brought up that point because it you thought it was important. Yea if youre speaking historical facts youre definitely right

historical facts are wrong and not important? What even is the conversation now? I'll keep going all through the night but what is this narrative here now?
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Vindris_SNH posted...

No one cares... Except enough to come in this thread and say they don't care... Which clearly suggests the opposite.

As of this post, it's literally only one person who said they don't care.

Kazi1212 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Say what now

Factually, means as much as what you said.

It's as big of a deal as you want it to be.

Okay? I didn't know we were talking about what I want. I was talking about human history.

Oh, here I thought you brought up that point because it you thought it was important. Yea if youre speaking historical facts youre definitely right

wtf? what does this mean? Are you accusing me of feels before reals? Tell me what's on your mind, friendo and if it's some sensitive shit, refer to inbox. I don't know your angle for sure anymore lol wtf...
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