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Duncanwii
08/21/18 8:40:18 PM
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One on one, no Comet. Roy can use a philosopher's stone if he really needs it.
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pegusus123456
08/23/18 4:26:29 AM
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Probably. Ozai can control fire, but it's tough to concentrate on that when your eyeballs are boiling in their sockets.
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cellus523
08/23/18 4:52:30 AM
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Ozai's feats are beating a child, being defenseless without his bending against said child (granted Zuko was a teenager now), and fighting while powered up to a great degree. If their is no comet to back him up I'll say Roy takes this handily. I dont remember if he has lightning but a flick of the fingers is faster than the motions needed for lightning bending.
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Dingydang166
08/23/18 5:02:24 AM
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Roy would destroy him. There really is no defense against what Roy does. Lightning would be his only chance, but it takes way too long to do the little lightning pose they do, while Roy only needs to snap his fingers.
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SailorGoon
08/23/18 5:09:58 AM
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Blind Mustang with Hawkeye assist stomps
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pegusus123456
08/23/18 5:13:41 AM
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Dingydang166 posted...
Roy would destroy him. There really is no defense against what Roy does. Lightning would be his only chance, but it takes way too long to do the little lightning pose they do, while Roy only needs to snap his fingers.

Yeah, "flame alchemy" is understating it a bit. He basically makes bombs with a snap of his fingers.
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Dash_Harber
08/23/18 5:31:06 AM
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IIRC, Mustang can create magic fire. Ozai controls all fire. Ozai probably wins.
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pegusus123456
08/23/18 5:31:35 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
IIRC, Mustang can create magic fire. Ozai controls all fire. Ozai probably wins.

Roy can make Ozai explode.
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Dash_Harber
08/23/18 5:32:21 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
IIRC, Mustang can create magic fire. Ozai controls all fire. Ozai probably wins.

Roy can make Ozai explode.

How? Throw fire at him?
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Des_Proxy
08/23/18 5:35:49 AM
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colonel mustang would win with the candlestick in the ballroom
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pegusus123456
08/23/18 5:38:19 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
IIRC, Mustang can create magic fire. Ozai controls all fire. Ozai probably wins.

Roy can make Ozai explode.

How? Throw fire at him?

Roy's alchemy works by purifying the oxygen in the air, making it flammable and then igniting it. By the time the fire's made for Ozai to control, he's already on fire.
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Dash_Harber
08/23/18 5:45:25 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
IIRC, Mustang can create magic fire. Ozai controls all fire. Ozai probably wins.

Roy can make Ozai explode.

How? Throw fire at him?

Roy's alchemy works by purifying the oxygen in the air, making it flammable and then igniting it. By the time the fire's made for Ozai to control, he's already on fire.

Wait, so Roy can just think anyone into spontaneous combusting? Why doesn't he just kill all the villains instantly, then?
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Ving_Rhames
08/23/18 5:47:25 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Why doesn't he just kill all the villains instantly, then?


The most threatening ones have ridiculously good regen/crazy good durability. Or something like that, been a while. But I think each time he encountered one he DID fuck them up beyond belief and maybe even killed one. Can't remember tho lol.
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Dash_Harber
08/23/18 5:50:03 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Why doesn't he just kill all the villains instantly, then?


The most threatening ones have ridiculously good regen. Or something like that, been a while. But I think each time he encountered one he DID fuck them up beyond belief and maybe even killed one. Can't remember tho lol.


I don't know if that's right, since he couldn't do anything like that when he fought Scar. It's been awhile, but I don't think I saw him even attempt to spontaneously combust anyone. I only saw him throwing fireballs around.
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Perascamin
08/23/18 6:04:00 AM
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Ozai and it's not even close
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pegusus123456
08/23/18 6:13:40 AM
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It's not so much that he spontaneously combusts people, it's that the "fuse" moves so fast that he may as well be. There's basically a split second between the snap and the combustion. Relative to that, firebending is much more methodical and slow.

Mustang doesn't actually get into that many fights in the show because he is so OP. Off the top of my head, there are four:
With Lust, she initially has the upper hand because he's fairly unfamiliar with a homunculi's abilities. Despite soaking his ignition gloves by slicing through a water pipe, he incinerates her using the hydrogen in that water and the flint in a lighter. He's not expecting her to regenerate, so she's able to take him by surprise. When he goes at her with that knowledge, he destroys her.

The fight with Scar happens to be in the rain. Presumably, using the hydrogen in rainwater to make a firebomb when there are a bunch of people around isn't a great idea, so he doesn't really get into it.

Gluttony uses his false gate to suck in whatever fire Roy creates.

And with Envy, it's just a ceaseless ass-whooping.

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Irony
08/23/18 6:14:43 AM
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Ozai easily
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Trigg3rH4ppy
08/23/18 6:23:53 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
But I think each time he encountered one he DID fuck them up beyond belief and maybe even killed one. Can't remember tho lol.

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Yomi
08/23/18 6:45:21 AM
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Roy Mustang. I find that the elements in the Avatar world are on the lower-end of the power scale when compared to most anime that make use of some version of element manipulation, especially because the creators of Avatar went to some lengths to make sure every element feels equally powerful to the other ones, with only the Avatar coming out on top because well, they're the Avatar and are able to bend all of them.
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pinky0926
08/23/18 6:47:27 AM
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Roy's ability is so broken. Just basically endless amounts of fire instantly summoned with no effort. Guy is a beast.

Seems like bending in the avatar universe is not nearly so straightforward.
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SailorGoon
08/23/18 6:48:10 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
IIRC, Mustang can create magic fire. Ozai controls all fire. Ozai probably wins.

Roy can make Ozai explode.

How? Throw fire at him?

I mean... What is Agni Kai?

Do you wanna know how firebenders fought each other? By throwing fire at each other.

Edit: didn't read the whole chain. My mistake
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pinky0926
08/23/18 6:49:19 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Why doesn't he just kill all the villains instantly, then?


The most threatening ones have ridiculously good regen/crazy good durability. Or something like that, been a while. But I think each time he encountered one he DID fuck them up beyond belief and maybe even killed one. Can't remember tho lol.


He killed one easily and nearly killed the other but held back. Both of these were basically immortal so he had to kill them like 20 times to make it stick.
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