Current Events > That Battlefield V producer who said "don't like it, don't buy it"

(+) Yeah! (+)

This is him right now:

https://tinyurl.com/luvkr7q
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Get woke go broke
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Consumers: "Ok we won't."

DICE: "Wait what?"

*DICE files for bankruptcy*
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The majority that complained weren't going to buy it regardless. You think the dudebros, MP shooter crowd care, or is even aware of this "controversy"?
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The people that don't buy it are people I'm not going to miss.
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Kickflip posted...

The majority that complained weren't going to buy it regardless. You think the dudebros, MP shooter crowd care, or is even aware of this "controversy"?

I dunno, a similar controversy sunk Ghostbusters 3
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Consumers: "Ok we won't."

DICE: "Wait what?"

*DICE files for bankruptcy*

This made me chuckle.

"We were joking!"

The fact of the matter is that companies need to make products consumers want. This new wave of idealists just "think they know better" and seek to guide the unwashed masses. Problem is, that doesn't work in a free market.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

I dunno, a similar controversy sunk Ghostbusters 3

I could easily see the fans of the original Ghostbusters being upset over the new one. I don't really see the dudebro fanbase that just want to shoot shit really caring about trivial stuff that doesn't affect the gameplay.

I just find it funny that a place like gfaqs seems to care this much, when it's Japan centric, full of anti social gamers that dump on online MP most of the time.

If there were no controversy and you polled this place on if they're interested in the new battlefield, "no" would win by a landslide.
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Kickflip posted...

I could easily see the fans of the original Ghostbusters being upset over the new one. I don't really see the dudebro fanbase that just want to shoot shit really caring about trivial stuff that doesn't affect the gameplay.

Anyone who plays Battlefield over stuff like Overwatch or PUBG probably appreciated the realism and historical accuracy of the series. I don't think they'll be as lenient as you think.
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Kickflip posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

I dunno, a similar controversy sunk Ghostbusters 3

I could easily see the fans of the original Ghostbusters being upset over the new one. I don't really see the dudebro fanbase that just want to shoot shit really caring about trivial stuff that doesn't affect the gameplay.

I just find it funny that a place like gfaqs seems to care this much, when it's Japan centric, full of anti social gamers that dump on online MP most of the time.

If there were no controversy and you polled this place on if they're interested in the new battlefield, "no" would win by a landslide.

The original Ghostbusters is one of my favorite movies ever and I was never going to see that trainwreck.

Not because it featured an all-woman team, but because I'm not interested in any Ghostbusters movie that doesn't star the original four.

My hope for a Ghostbusters movie died in February 2014.
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They're still gonna end up buying the game
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Lmao @ realism in Battlefield games. Yeah, my favourite part of WWII was when that guy jumped out of a plane, shot a rocket launcher at the plane on his tail, and then landed back in his plane.
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Nice market research Dice. This is what happens when you don't care about the people who actually buy your product.
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Kolibri X posted...

Nice market research Dice. This is what happens when you don't care about the people who actually buy your product.

Basically this. Video games are primarily purchased and enjoyed by men. Video game companies should act like it and make their customers happy.

It's funny I never see female dominated industries forget who their customers are.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Anyone who plays Battlefield over stuff like Overwatch or PUBG probably appreciated the realism and historical accuracy of the series. I don't think they'll be as lenient as you think.

Or they liked large scale objective modes and vehicles?

I truely doubt they care much, if at all.

Hell even when it comes to drastic gameplay changes, it's not like the CoD crowd jumped shipped once they went all futuristic and jetpack happy. Not until several entries did it and it became stale.

Typically they'll stick with the series until it's no longer fun. It's going to take a lot more than "historical inaccuracies" to sway long time fans, I'm sure. If anything, people aren't interested because it just doesn't look any better than Battlefield 1. I've seen that complaint more elsewhere, whereas this site swear it's all about the behind the scenes gossip.

CoD is suffering a similar fate, but there is no "controversy" to spin with it.
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Couldnt have happened to a worse company. Hopefully theyll double down.
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@Kickflip posted...

Or they liked large scale objective modes and vehicles?

I truely doubt they care much, if at all.

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CoD is suffering a similar fate, but there is no "controversy" to spin with it.

Yeah, so about that

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pcinvasion.com/amp/battlefield-v-serious-disappointment-call-of-duty
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Whenever I think of gaming boycotts for triple A games I remember this pic from Modern Warfare 2:


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I'm pretty sure that guy left EA a month or so ago.
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Wait, what are people mad about? I think I missed this entirely. I am a Battlefield player for the most part, but don't know what's going on in this thread.
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l Dudeboy l posted...

The people that don't buy it are people I'm not going to miss.

You will miss all the people who do buy it as it's going to be a dead game 3 months after launch and everyone will have moved back to Fortnite or Destiny 2 or some shit.
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I don't think Battlefield V will have an issue with getting a population. This will probably disappoint them in the same way Hardline did.

It's looking like DICE will have two financial disappointments in a row. But these games will probably still sell millions. Just less than they anticipated.
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Oh hey looks like they've already given more detail about it

https://venturebeat.com/2018/08/21/battlefield-v-preorders-are-below-expectations-but-it-isnt-about-to-bomb/

And Battlefield V isnt about to bomb even if it isnt doing as well as Battlefield 1 was at this point. It is also underperforming EAs internal expectations. That is one of the main reasons the company did not raise its full-year revenue guidance during its last quarterly financial report. The credit for missing expectations likely goes to the disappointing reveal event and an October 19 release date that rubs up against Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 on October 12 and Red Dead Redemption 2 on October 26.

Ive reached out to EA, and it chose not to comment on this story.

Even with all of that working against Battlefield V, it is not failing. It may not be living up to internal estimates at EA, but it is already outperforming Titanfall 2 by a significant margin. And having a game that is struggling to compete for preorders this fall is not unique to Electronic Arts.

Red Dead Redemption 2 is the only fall release that is meeting expectations at one major distributor, according to a source familiar with online retail. So yes, Battlefield V is coming in weak, but so is Call of Duty: Black Ops 4. So is everything that isnt the next hotly anticipated release from Rockstar Games.

Red Dead is so huge that it isnt leaving room for competing products, and Fortnite is still massive. Those two games are potentially creating an environment where other blockbuster online shooters may struggle to thrive.

But EA does have a contingency plan if Battlefield Vs revenue trajectory turns south. DICE has major post-launch support plans that involve its battle royale mode. As I reported previously, the studios take on the last-player standing concept probably wont debut alongside the game in October. But DICE and EA may use that opportunity to get creative with how it distributes it. Fortnite, the major battle royale game on consoles, is free-to-play, so the publisher will have to take that into mind when it comes time to roll out Battlefield Royale.

If people are wanting a Titanfall 2 level flop they'll be disappointed.
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Darmik posted...

I don't think Battlefield V will have an issue with getting a population. This will probably disappoint them in the same way Hardline did.

It's looking like DICE will have two financial disappointments in a row. But these games will probably still sell millions. Just less than they anticipated.

they will sell millions* and lose players by the millions.

*like 3 million at most
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Kickflip posted...

I could easily see the fans of the original Ghostbusters being upset over the new one. I don't really see the dudebro fanbase that just want to shoot shit really caring about trivial stuff that doesn't affect the gameplay.

Anyone who plays Battlefield over stuff like Overwatch or PUBG probably appreciated the realism and historical accuracy of the series. I don't think they'll be as lenient as you think.

Yeah there are guys that wanted our favorite war period done justice, instead we got this crap with disabled mary sue fighters, the hell?, if i want alternate reality, i can try wolfenstein.

Vyrulisse posted...

Whenever I think of gaming boycotts for triple A games I remember this pic from Modern Warfare 2:

I don't remember any boycott for MW2

and people loved that game
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There was this brief time on PC where people would threaten boycotts if the game didn't support dedicated servers.

Turns out it was a pretty empty threat.
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People who think that poor preorders and sales forecasts have anything to do with that statement are absolutely batshit. It takes way more than a press release some overly zealous pocket of loudmouths take issue with to do anything to something as large and multifaceted as BF. Nothing but raindrops in an ocean.
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What else can he really say at this point? Should he volunteer to manually rewrite the entire game to remove any historical inaccuracies? If he said nothing, they'd be complaining about that. If he agrees, they complain about that. If he disagrees, they complain about that. Absolutely nothing will appease them at this point, so who the fuck cares?

I'm probably going to buy it because I've enjoyed every other DICE BF game and it looks like it will be good mindless fun. I think the people complaining about inaccuracies either have ulterior motives, or are just plain unaware of how much of BF is inaccurate in the first place if they think that this is some sort of tipping point. Also, who the fuck goes into a MP shooter looking for historical accuracy? It's an unreasonable expectation.

Dash_Harber posted...

What else can he really say at this point?

"We value our customers' input and will consider their criticisms in our games moving forward."
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

What else can he really say at this point?

"We value our customers' input and will consider their criticisms in our games moving forward."

Like I pointed out, they aren't going to redesign the game at this point, and the people complaining are unpleasable anyway. You conveniently left out where I pointed out that no matter what they say, the same critics were going to complain.

Dash_Harber posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

What else can he really say at this point?

"We value our customers' input and will consider their criticisms in our games moving forward."

Like I pointed out, they aren't going to redesign the game at this point, and the people complaining are unpleasable anyway. You conveniently left out where I pointed out that no matter what they say, the same critics were going to complain.

Is it too much to expect developers to at least try to care about criticism from potential customers?
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

What else can he really say at this point?

"We value our customers' input and will consider their criticisms in our games moving forward."

Like I pointed out, they aren't going to redesign the game at this point, and the people complaining are unpleasable anyway. You conveniently left out where I pointed out that no matter what they say, the same critics were going to complain.

Is it too much to expect developers to at least try to care about criticism from potential customers?

I'm sure they do, but throwing a bitch fit because a women with a prosthetic is in their shooter is not even worth responding to. It's not a criticism of the game play, or the content, or anything like that.

Again, you want them to say, "Oh, we value the fact that you have been raging over our product", at which point the same people would complain it was an empty statement. No matter what, those people are not potential customers, they just want to bitch. Why try to desperately appease them?

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Kickflip posted...

I could easily see the fans of the original Ghostbusters being upset over the new one. I don't really see the dudebro fanbase that just want to shoot shit really caring about trivial stuff that doesn't affect the gameplay.

Anyone who plays Battlefield over stuff like Overwatch or PUBG probably appreciated the realism and historical accuracy of the series. I don't think they'll be as lenient as you think.

Jfc another person that thinks females being in ww2 is historically inaccurate...

You guys are everywhere. Get off gfaqs, go read a book.
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Lord_Wombat posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Kickflip posted...

I could easily see the fans of the original Ghostbusters being upset over the new one. I don't really see the dudebro fanbase that just want to shoot shit really caring about trivial stuff that doesn't affect the gameplay.

Anyone who plays Battlefield over stuff like Overwatch or PUBG probably appreciated the realism and historical accuracy of the series. I don't think they'll be as lenient as you think.

Jfc another person that thinks females being in ww2 is historically inaccurate...

You guys are everywhere. Get off gfaqs, go read a book.

Not to mention the fact that From Vietnam to BF1 the games have been wildly inaccurate, if inspired by real events.

Lord_Wombat posted...

Jfc another person that thinks females being in ww2 is historically inaccurate...

Is it historically accurate that in WW2 there were females with Deus Ex augments and could outrun tanks?
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"I don't like the direction they are taking"

"WHAOH DUDE YOU CAN TAKE BOOLET AND NOT DIE! WHY WOULD YOU WANT ANY AUTHENTICITY AT ALL"

Seriously.

Call of Duty and Medal of Honor had playable female characters in early installments in WW2.

Nobody complained because they were used well and in a way fitting with history.

I doubt you will find people complaining about the characters in Valiant Hearts.
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Wait though

This whole thing is because BFV has female characters?
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

Nobody complained because they were used well and in a way fitting with history.

Yeah, but we literally don't know how the main character fits in yet, so she might be perfectly fitting.

Tyranthraxus posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

The people that don't buy it are people I'm not going to miss.

You will miss all the people who do buy it as it's going to be a dead game 3 months after launch and everyone will have moved back to Fortnite or Destiny 2 or some shit.

Nah. It's Battlefield. It sells by name and reputation alone to casuals.
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The people who they're trying to appeal to don't buy these games/see these movies....yet the studios try to appeal to them over their core audience, who they are fine with throwing under the bus.
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if it's fun with good netcode it will appeal to people, and all this drama is meaningless stupidity
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l Dudeboy l posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

The people that don't buy it are people I'm not going to miss.

You will miss all the people who do buy it as it's going to be a dead game 3 months after launch and everyone will have moved back to Fortnite or Destiny 2 or some shit.

Nah. It's Battlefield. It sells by name and reputation alone to casuals.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/cowen-predicts-eas-battlefield-v-will-be-a-serious-disappointment-citing-weak-pre-orders.html
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god damn ess jay dubyas tryin to put women in my vidya games ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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That Battlefield V producer?

Veggeta X
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Lord_Wombat posted...

Jfc another person that thinks females being in ww2 is historically inaccurate...

One-armed British commandos fighting on the front lines with a cricket bat?

OmegaShinkai posted...

Lord_Wombat posted...

Jfc another person that thinks females being in ww2 is historically inaccurate...

One-armed British commandos fighting on the front lines with a cricket bat?

Yes, that happened but the patriarchy erased it from the history books!
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Dash_Harber posted...

The_Ivory_Man posted...

Nobody complained because they were used well and in a way fitting with history.

Yeah, but we literally don't know how the main character fits in yet, so she might be perfectly fitting.

I can't find any info on a one armed British commando who participated in frontline combat.
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

The people that don't buy it are people I'm not going to miss.

You will miss all the people who do buy it as it's going to be a dead game 3 months after launch and everyone will have moved back to Fortnite or Destiny 2 or some shit.

Nah. It's Battlefield. It sells by name and reputation alone to casuals.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/cowen-predicts-eas-battlefield-v-will-be-a-serious-disappointment-citing-weak-pre-orders.html

Cool. The game won't be dead in 3 months though. That's the thought process of gamers who vastly overestimate their influence.
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