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CiIantro 08/21/18 12:38:03 AM #1:	Is abortion murder? - Results (41 votes) Yes 26.83% (11 votes) 11 No 73.17% (30 votes) 30 nt <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907259371] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote> Is abortion murder? - Results (41 votes) Yes 26.83% (11 votes) 11 No 73.17% (30 votes) 30 nt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/21/18 12:39:54 AM #2:	no will probably win, but I say yes. <cite>Zikten posted [p:907259452] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote>no will probably win, but I say yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/21/18 12:40:31 AM #3:	Zikten posted... but I say yes. Why? <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907259485] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>but I say yes.</quote> Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/21/18 12:41:52 AM #4:	CiIantro posted... Zikten posted... but I say yes. Why? because your ending a life. to me, life begins once a fetus is conceived. I see fetuses as human <cite>Zikten posted [p:907259535] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>but I say yes.</quote> Why?</quote> because your ending a life. to me, life begins once a fetus is conceived. I see fetuses as human</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/21/18 12:43:39 AM #5:	Zikten posted... CiIantro posted... Zikten posted... but I say yes. Why? because your ending a life. to me, life begins once a fetus is conceived. I see fetuses as human How can something without a functioning brain/consciousness be murdered? There is nothing to kill. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907259596] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>but I say yes.</quote> Why?</quote> because your ending a life. to me, life begins once a fetus is conceived. I see fetuses as human</quote> How can something without a functioning brain/consciousness be murdered? There is nothing to kill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/21/18 12:44:09 AM #6:	Technically no, since murder is a legally-defined term --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:907259616] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote>Technically no, since murder is a legally-defined term</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/21/18 12:44:13 AM #7:	its developing. it's alive. if you leave it alone, it turns into a human baby. so by that logic, it is human <cite>Zikten posted [p:907259617] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote>its developing. it's alive. if you leave it alone, it turns into a human baby. so by that logic, it is human</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/21/18 12:46:54 AM #8:	Zikten posted... its developing. it's alive. if you leave it alone, it turns into a human baby. so by that logic, it is human I can swab a culture of my cells an put them in a petri dish and they will have just as much sentient viability as a fetus. And where do you draw the line for potential life? Are you committing murder every time you fap? Intellectually, there is no viable, evidence based reason to call abortion murder. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907259749] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>its developing. it's alive. if you leave it alone, it turns into a human baby. so by that logic, it is human</quote> I can swab a culture of my cells an put them in a petri dish and they will have just as much sentient viability as a fetus. And where do you draw the line for potential life? Are you committing murder every time you fap? Intellectually, there is no viable, evidence based reason to call abortion murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/21/18 12:48:30 AM #9:	CiIantro posted... And where do you draw the line for potential life? at conception sperm cells and eggs can't become human on their own. but when they mix, they do. I draw the line at the moment of conception. it's pretty simple really <cite>Zikten posted [p:907259822] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote> And where do you draw the line for potential life?</quote> at conception sperm cells and eggs can't become human on their own. but when they mix, they do. I draw the line at the moment of conception. it's pretty simple really</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/21/18 12:50:14 AM #10:	Zikten posted... CiIantro posted... And where do you draw the line for potential life? at conception sperm cells and eggs can't become human on their own. but when they mix, they do. I draw the line at the moment of conception. it's pretty simple really Yeah, but it is completely arbitrary and not based on any sort of scientific rationale. The person who says sperm are human is just as correct as you are. The fact is (and I mean a literal, scientific fact) that a consciousness cannot exist without a brain. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907259882] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote> And where do you draw the line for potential life?</quote> at conception sperm cells and eggs can't become human on their own. but when they mix, they do. I draw the line at the moment of conception. it's pretty simple really</quote> Yeah, but it is completely arbitrary and not based on any sort of scientific rationale. The person who says sperm are human is just as correct as you are. The fact is (and I mean a literal, scientific fact) that a consciousness cannot exist without a brain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/21/18 12:51:46 AM #11:	sperm on it's own doesn't turn into a human. and cells in a petri dish won't turn human either. sperm cells mixed with an egg turn into a human, when gestated for 9 months in a womb <cite>Zikten posted [p:907259956] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote>sperm on it's own doesn't turn into a human. and cells in a petri dish won't turn human either. sperm cells mixed with an egg turn into a human, when gestated for 9 months in a womb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/21/18 12:52:50 AM #12:	Zikten posted... sperm on it's own doesn't turn into a human. and cells in a petri dish won't turn human either. sperm cells mixed with an egg turn into a human, when gestated for 9 months in a womb Thats nice. None of the above have a brain though and are therefore not sentient beings. You cannot murder something that is not conscious (unless you consider harvesting plants to be murder). <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907260012] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>sperm on it's own doesn't turn into a human. and cells in a petri dish won't turn human either. sperm cells mixed with an egg turn into a human, when gestated for 9 months in a womb</quote> Thats nice. None of the above have a brain though and are therefore not sentient beings. You cannot murder something that is not conscious (unless you consider harvesting plants to be murder).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/21/18 12:53:54 AM #13:	plants dont' grow into having a brain I think I have argued with you before about this. your saying the same stuff as from a memory I have. we both refuse to budge. so whatever. its pointless. I'm never going to change my mind on this. <cite>Zikten posted [p:907260047] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote>plants dont' grow into having a brain I think I have argued with you before about this. your saying the same stuff as from a memory I have. we both refuse to budge. so whatever. its pointless. I'm never going to change my mind on this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/21/18 12:57:02 AM #14:	Zikten posted... plants dont' grow into having a brain I think I have argued with you before about this. your saying the same stuff as from a memory I have. we both refuse to budge. so whatever. its pointless. I'm never going to change my mind on this. I have never met someone who wasnt religious and thought abortion is murder. It is illogical. You are just picking a random starting point for life that is not anchored in any sort of empirical rationale. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907260185] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>plants dont' grow into having a brain I think I have argued with you before about this. your saying the same stuff as from a memory I have. we both refuse to budge. so whatever. its pointless. I'm never going to change my mind on this.</quote> I have never met someone who wasnt religious and thought abortion is murder. It is illogical. You are just picking a random starting point for life that is not anchored in any sort of empirical rationale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cornmuffins 08/21/18 1:03:54 AM #15:	Nope --- Getting C's and D's, saying thanks and please. You broke the golden rule, you're staying after school. <cite>Cornmuffins posted [p:907260468] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote>Nope</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 08/21/18 2:28:25 AM #16:	Yes. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:907263654] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote>Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/21/18 1:04:00 PM #17:	Zikten posted... CiIantro posted... Zikten posted... but I say yes. Why? because your ending a life. to me, life begins once a fetus is conceived. I see fetuses as human lol how silly --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:907285133] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>but I say yes.</quote> Why?</quote> because your ending a life. to me, life begins once a fetus is conceived. I see fetuses as human</quote> lol how silly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 08/21/18 1:13:28 PM #18:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Zikten posted... CiIantro posted... Zikten posted... but I say yes. Why? because your ending a life. to me, life begins once a fetus is conceived. I see fetuses as human lol how silly Well, I mean, it's technically true. On point, tho. Abortion is not murder, because murder is the unlawful ending of human life. Abortion is legal, therefore it cannot be murder. It's unquestionable, depending on fetal development stage, that you are ending a human life. That was never the question, tho. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 25404 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:907285713] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>but I say yes.</quote> Why?</quote> because your ending a life. to me, life begins once a fetus is conceived. I see fetuses as human</quote> lol how silly</quote> Well, I mean, it's technically true. On point, tho. Abortion is not murder, because murder is the unlawful ending of human life. Abortion is legal, therefore it cannot be murder. It's unquestionable, depending on fetal development stage, that you are ending a human life. That was never the question, tho.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 08/21/18 1:15:00 PM #19:	No, and let's be clear. In the Bible you have two instances that support this. The trial of bitter water for adulterers. Mosus ruling a miscarriage as lost property instead of a life taken. --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:907285790] in Is abortio... [t:76922279]...</cite> <quote>No, and let's be clear. In the Bible you have two instances that support this. The trial of bitter water for adulterers. Mosus ruling a miscarriage as lost property instead of a life taken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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