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EliteLevel 08/20/18 6:17:48 PM #1:	Force them to do things they dont want to. For example ban their face coverings, make them touch other people they dont want to touch etc. <cite>EliteLevel posted [p:907236657] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>Force them to do things they dont want to. For example ban their face coverings, make them touch other people they dont want to touch etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruid 08/20/18 6:20:21 PM #2:	They very regularly get made to have unwanted contact with people... <cite>Ruid posted [p:907236801] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>They very regularly get made to have unwanted contact with people...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 08/20/18 6:20:23 PM #3:	How about we let them leave the house alone? Most are big girls now --- 3DS: 1848-2391-0198 "May the Father of Understanding guide us" <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:907236807] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>How about we let them leave the house alone? Most are big girls now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EliteLevel 08/20/18 6:25:43 PM #4:	Lordgold666 posted... How about we let them leave the house alone? Most are big girls now Most already do. <cite>EliteLevel posted [p:907237128] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lordgold666 posted...</cite> <quote>How about we let them leave the house alone? Most are big girls now</quote> Most already do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruid 08/20/18 6:29:39 PM #5:	I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me. <cite>Ruid posted [p:907237388] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 08/20/18 6:31:45 PM #6:	make them woman-kings in the middle east --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:907237523] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>make them woman-kings in the middle east </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/20/18 6:32:27 PM #7:	"The best way to give them freedom, is to legally force them to do things our way." <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:907237564] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>"The best way to give them freedom, is to legally force them to do things our way."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidWong 08/20/18 6:32:29 PM #8:	Ruid posted... I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me. this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again? --- COOK WITH A GEORGE FOREMAN GRILL JUST TO DRINK OUT THE DRIP TRAY <cite>DavidWong posted [p:907237566] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me.</quote> this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruid 08/20/18 6:34:43 PM #9:	DavidWong posted... Ruid posted... I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me. this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again? I'm talking about the parts of their culture that they hate. Fight to get rid of those parts and keep the things they want. Y'know...freedom of choice. <cite>Ruid posted [p:907237696] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>DavidWong posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me.</quote> this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again?</quote> I'm talking about the parts of their culture that they hate. Fight to get rid of those parts and keep the things they want. Y'know...freedom of choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/20/18 6:36:40 PM #10:	DavidWong posted... Ruid posted... I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me. this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again? Are we really comparing eating a home cooked meal to refusing to make skin-to-skin contact with a member of the opposite sex because you were raised to believe it was unclean? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:907237807] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>DavidWong posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me.</quote> this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again?</quote> Are we really comparing eating a home cooked meal to refusing to make skin-to-skin contact with a member of the opposite sex because you were raised to believe it was unclean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/20/18 6:37:32 PM #11:	While those methods may not be the best way to handle it, they can get over it. If you cannot make concessions when moving somewhere else, then just stay where you are or go to one of the countries that aligns with your views if you're seeking asylum. <cite>nemu posted [p:907237856] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>While those methods may not be the best way to handle it, they can get over it. If you cannot make concessions when moving somewhere else, then just stay where you are or go to one of the countries that aligns with your views if you're seeking asylum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EliteLevel 08/20/18 6:45:18 PM #12:	Ruid posted... DavidWong posted... Ruid posted... I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me. this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again? I'm talking about the parts of their culture that they hate. Fight to get rid of those parts and keep the things they want. Y'know...freedom of choice. What parts do they hate? <cite>EliteLevel posted [p:907238269] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DavidWong posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me.</quote> this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again?</quote> I'm talking about the parts of their culture that they hate. Fight to get rid of those parts and keep the things they want. Y'know...freedom of choice.</quote> What parts do they hate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 08/20/18 6:51:14 PM #13:	DavidWong posted... Ruid posted... I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me. this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again? Integration is about reconciling the old ways with the new. If the old ways are in direct opposition to the new, either reach a compromise that is acceptable with the new culture or reconsider the migration altogether because forcing them to accommodate your customs in their entirety will only breed discontentment as the host country is the one doing the migrants a favor, not the other way around. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:907238607] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>DavidWong posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me.</quote> this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again?</quote> Integration is about reconciling the old ways with the new. If the old ways are in direct opposition to the new, either reach a compromise that is acceptable with the new culture or reconsider the migration altogether because forcing them to accommodate your customs in their entirety will only breed discontentment as the host country is the one doing the migrants a favor, not the other way around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruid 08/20/18 6:52:46 PM #14:	EliteLevel posted... Ruid posted... DavidWong posted... Ruid posted... I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me. this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again? I'm talking about the parts of their culture that they hate. Fight to get rid of those parts and keep the things they want. Y'know...freedom of choice. What parts do they hate? Nothing. They love the way their lives are over there. Not a single thing to complain about. A true Utopia. <cite>Ruid posted [p:907238701] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DavidWong posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me.</quote> this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again?</quote> I'm talking about the parts of their culture that they hate. Fight to get rid of those parts and keep the things they want. Y'know...freedom of choice.</quote> What parts do they hate?</quote> Nothing. They love the way their lives are over there. Not a single thing to complain about. A true Utopia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EliteLevel 08/20/18 6:56:10 PM #15:	Ruid posted... EliteLevel posted... Ruid posted... DavidWong posted... Ruid posted... I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me. this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again? I'm talking about the parts of their culture that they hate. Fight to get rid of those parts and keep the things they want. Y'know...freedom of choice. What parts do they hate? Nothing. They love the way their lives are over there. Not a single thing to complain about. A true Utopia. Great way to wriggle out of answering. <cite>EliteLevel posted [p:907238901] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DavidWong posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised those women don't say fuck it, arm themselves and just get their own freedom. A bunch of enraged Muslim women who've already been through pretty much anything you could throw at them. Sounds pretty damn scary to me.</quote> this is how radicalization works they come to a new country for a better life, and the locals just shit on them, marginalize them, discriminate against them. Then they get angry at it, and start to fight against the discrimination they face. Integration does not mean renouncing your culture. You're telling me if you were forced to leave your country due to threat of war of violence and move to Japan, you're never going to eat your home countries food, listen to your home countries' music, watch your home countries' TV and movies? You're never speaking English ever again?</quote> I'm talking about the parts of their culture that they hate. Fight to get rid of those parts and keep the things they want. Y'know...freedom of choice.</quote> What parts do they hate?</quote> Nothing. They love the way their lives are over there. Not a single thing to complain about. A true Utopia.</quote> Great way to wriggle out of answering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 08/20/18 6:58:22 PM #16:	That's the dilemma. You can't force them to change, without violating their own freedom of choice. But at the same time, they can't really make a free choice while they are still shackled by both indoctrination and real world pressures and consequences for choosing a different path. I think Japan has some parallels with this situation. Pre-World War 2 Japan is quite different from post-World War 2 Japan, and that could not have happened without them being forced to change due to the outcome of the War. Yes, they are still traditional and conservative in many ways (and, yeah, xenophobic too), but they absolutely did become more Westernized, or at least the war defeat solidified the path they were on to Westernization after 1853. Now they are a strong ally of the US and I don't think their youth will easily give up what they gained through the process, as difficult and bloody as it was. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:907239044] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>That's the dilemma. You can't force them to change, without violating their own freedom of choice. But at the same time, they can't really make a free choice while they are still shackled by both indoctrination and real world pressures and consequences for choosing a different path. I think Japan has some parallels with this situation. Pre-World War 2 Japan is quite different from post-World War 2 Japan, and that could not have happened without them being forced to change due to the outcome of the War. Yes, they are still traditional and conservative in many ways (and, yeah, xenophobic too), but they absolutely did become more Westernized, or at least the war defeat solidified the path they were on to Westernization after 1853. Now they are a strong ally of the US and I don't think their youth will easily give up what they gained through the process, as difficult and bloody as it was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/20/18 7:02:29 PM #17:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... I think Japan has some parallels with this situation. Pre-World War 2 Japan is quite different from post-World War 2 Japan, and that could not have happened without them being forced to change due to the outcome of the War. Yes, they are still traditional and conservative in many ways (and, yeah, xenophobic too), but they absolutely did become more Westernized, or at least the war defeat solidified the path they were on to Westernization after 1853. Now they are a strong ally of the US and I don't think their youth will easily give up what they gained through the process, as difficult and bloody as it was. That's a terrible example. The American Occupation actually encouraged them to resurrect more of their culture, like the Samurai, who had fallen out of favor during the Meiji Restoration. The Meiji Restoration predates it be a huge amount of time, and was basically a forced westernization by their own government that completely reworked all their institutions from the ground up based on European models. Importantly, though, it was 100% a native decision (made in response to recent western aggression in Asia), and had nothing to do with forcing someone to integrate. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:907239296] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>I think Japan has some parallels with this situation. Pre-World War 2 Japan is quite different from post-World War 2 Japan, and that could not have happened without them being forced to change due to the outcome of the War. Yes, they are still traditional and conservative in many ways (and, yeah, xenophobic too), but they absolutely did become more Westernized, or at least the war defeat solidified the path they were on to Westernization after 1853. Now they are a strong ally of the US and I don't think their youth will easily give up what they gained through the process, as difficult and bloody as it was.</quote> That's a terrible example. The American Occupation actually encouraged them to resurrect more of their culture, like the Samurai, who had fallen out of favor during the Meiji Restoration. The Meiji Restoration predates it be a huge amount of time, and was basically a forced westernization by their own government that completely reworked all their institutions from the ground up based on European models. Importantly, though, it was 100% a native decision (made in response to recent western aggression in Asia), and had nothing to do with forcing someone to integrate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/20/18 7:04:30 PM #18:	Probably to let them choose what they want to do --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:907239417] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>Probably to let them choose what they want to do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 08/20/18 7:06:51 PM #19:	--- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:907239580] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 08/20/18 7:09:09 PM #20:	EliteLevel posted... Force them to do things they dont want to. For example ban their face coverings, make them touch other people they dont want to touch etc. There's nothing virtuous in tolerating intolerance. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:907239738] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote>Force them to do things they dont want to. For example ban their face coverings, make them touch other people they dont want to touch etc.</quote> There's nothing virtuous in tolerating intolerance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/18 7:14:46 PM #21:	This outfit replaces the burka. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907240084] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote> This outfit replaces the burka.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruid 08/20/18 7:29:32 PM #22:	Jasmine is easily the hottest Disney chick. <cite>Ruid posted [p:907240992] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>Jasmine is easily the hottest Disney chick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/20/18 7:30:24 PM #23:	Ruid posted... They very regularly get made to have unwanted contact with people... oh shit --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907241034] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruid posted...</cite> <quote>They very regularly get made to have unwanted contact with people...</quote> oh shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/20/18 7:32:25 PM #24:	Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907241163] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/20/18 7:35:21 PM #25:	EliteLevel posted... make them touch other people they dont want to touch etc. If they have to touch someone they don't want to touch and that person doesn't want to be touched by them, is the act like... double sexual assault? --- "No one cares about Chill or Coth or Error or Dawkins or whatever any of the other drama queens are." -UnfairRepresent <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:907241349] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote>make them touch other people they dont want to touch etc.</quote> If they have to touch someone they don't want to touch and that person doesn't want to be touched by them, is the act like... double sexual assault?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EliteLevel 08/20/18 7:37:06 PM #26:	Kazi1212 posted... Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive? So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do? --- Judge not, lest ye be judged and get butthurt. <cite>EliteLevel posted [p:907241469] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive?</quote> So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/20/18 7:47:58 PM #27:	EliteLevel posted... Kazi1212 posted... Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive? So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do? I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907242078] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive?</quote> So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do?</quote> I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/20/18 7:51:09 PM #28:	AlephZero posted... Is that real? Cause she isn't even Muslim. She actually is Christian in real life ironically. She's just Arab by race Linda Sarsour is an idiot though so she might not know this <cite>Zikten posted [p:907242263] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Is that real? Cause she isn't even Muslim. She actually is Christian in real life ironically. She's just Arab by race Linda Sarsour is an idiot though so she might not know this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/20/18 8:11:05 PM #29:	Kazi1212 posted... EliteLevel posted... Kazi1212 posted... Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive? So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do? I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures? I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:907243466] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive?</quote> So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do?</quote> I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures?</quote> I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/20/18 8:12:28 PM #30:	hockeybub89 posted... Kazi1212 posted... EliteLevel posted... Kazi1212 posted... Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive? So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do? I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures? I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work. oh nooo, that's too hard... --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907243572] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive?</quote> So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do?</quote> I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures?</quote> I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work.</quote> oh nooo, that's too hard...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruid 08/20/18 8:13:46 PM #31:	Zikten posted... AlephZero posted... Is that real? Cause she isn't even Muslim. She actually is Christian in real life ironically. She's just Arab by race Linda Sarsour is an idiot though so she might not know this "I'm so used to wearing these that I feel naked without it!" <cite>Ruid posted [p:907243668] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Is that real? Cause she isn't even Muslim. She actually is Christian in real life ironically. She's just Arab by race Linda Sarsour is an idiot though so she might not know this</quote> "I'm so used to wearing these that I feel naked without it!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/20/18 8:14:18 PM #32:	hockeybub89 posted... Kazi1212 posted... EliteLevel posted... Kazi1212 posted... Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive? So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do? I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures? I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work. I didnt say otherwise. The topic asked how Muslim women can become free, and I thought teaching the men in that culture that lightly beating their wives is not ok would be beneficial in Muslim women becoming more free. Am I being totally unreasonable here? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907243709] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive?</quote> So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do?</quote> I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures?</quote> I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work.</quote> I didnt say otherwise. The topic asked how Muslim women can become free, and I thought teaching the men in that culture that lightly beating their wives is not ok would be beneficial in Muslim women becoming more free. Am I being totally unreasonable here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/20/18 8:16:04 PM #33:	Kazi1212 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Kazi1212 posted... EliteLevel posted... Kazi1212 posted... Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive? So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do? I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures? I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work. I didnt say otherwise. The topic asked how Muslim women can become free, and I thought teaching the men in that culture that lightly beating their wives is not ok would be beneficial in Muslim women becoming more free. Am I being totally unreasonable here? let's be honest, you just wanna touch her hand --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907243814] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive?</quote> So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do?</quote> I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures?</quote> I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work.</quote> I didnt say otherwise. The topic asked how Muslim women can become free, and I thought teaching the men in that culture that lightly beating their wives is not ok would be beneficial in Muslim women becoming more free. Am I being totally unreasonable here?</quote> let's be honest, you just wanna touch her hand</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/20/18 8:19:05 PM #34:	catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Kazi1212 posted... EliteLevel posted... Kazi1212 posted... Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive? So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do? I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures? I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work. I didnt say otherwise. The topic asked how Muslim women can become free, and I thought teaching the men in that culture that lightly beating their wives is not ok would be beneficial in Muslim women becoming more free. Am I being totally unreasonable here? let's be honest, you just wanna touch her hand Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked whenever Westerners defend some of the archaic practices of Islam. Not choosing to shake hands is fine, but their reasoning behind is perverse and hurts gender relations in the long run. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907244006] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteLevel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe start with teaching Muslim men that its not ok to lightly beat their wives even though their religion says it is? It that too culturally insensitive?</quote> So should we teach muslim men to beat their wives severely like non-Muslim men do?</quote> I dont know, is it considered ok for men to beat their wives in our culture like it is in some Muslim cultures?</quote> I have an idea. How about we let people wear whatever hats and worship whatever God they want, but continue to keep domestic abuse, female genital mutilation, and murder illegal? It might just be crazy enough to work.</quote> I didnt say otherwise. The topic asked how Muslim women can become free, and I thought teaching the men in that culture that lightly beating their wives is not ok would be beneficial in Muslim women becoming more free. Am I being totally unreasonable here?</quote> let's be honest, you just wanna touch her hand</quote> Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked whenever Westerners defend some of the archaic practices of Islam. Not choosing to shake hands is fine, but their reasoning behind is perverse and hurts gender relations in the long run.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/20/18 8:41:06 PM #35:	Kazi1212 posted... Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked there's the issue. you're just getting mad --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907245322] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked</quote> there's the issue. you're just getting mad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/20/18 8:43:59 PM #36:	catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked there's the issue. you're just getting mad Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907245493] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked</quote> there's the issue. you're just getting mad</quote> Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/20/18 8:45:59 PM #37:	Have them move to western countries and have them see how much better women have it here. So basically what's already being done. Don't force it on them. Forcing freedom isn't freedom they have to want it. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:907245623] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>Have them move to western countries and have them see how much better women have it here. So basically what's already being done. Don't force it on them. Forcing freedom isn't freedom they have to want it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vita_Aeterna 08/20/18 8:50:03 PM #38:	It has to start from above. Changes have to start from above. Women did not gain universal suffrage alone in the West, they had allies vouching for them from above, and when I say "above", I mean the political authority. --- "Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is STARK." <cite>Vita_Aeterna posted [p:907245864] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>It has to start from above. Changes have to start from above. Women did not gain universal suffrage alone in the West, they had allies vouching for them from above, and when I say "above", I mean the political authority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/20/18 8:50:39 PM #39:	Kazi1212 posted... catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked there's the issue. you're just getting mad Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine. you're the one having an emotional reaction just because someone doesn't follow your customs --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907245902] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked</quote> there's the issue. you're just getting mad</quote> Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine.</quote> you're the one having an emotional reaction just because someone doesn't follow your customs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/20/18 8:56:38 PM #40:	catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked there's the issue. you're just getting mad Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine. you're the one having an emotional reaction just because someone doesn't follow your customs No, Im having an emotional reaction because I know the misogyny and oppression behind the practice of those customs hide on a deeper level because I have personally experienced it, and to see those customs defended is what irks me. Westerners have absolutely no clue how these customs are used to prevent women from doing all sorts of things, but go ahead and defend something you know nothing about. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907246272] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked</quote> there's the issue. you're just getting mad</quote> Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine.</quote> you're the one having an emotional reaction just because someone doesn't follow your customs</quote> No, Im having an emotional reaction because I know the misogyny and oppression behind the practice of those customs hide on a deeper level because I have personally experienced it, and to see those customs defended is what irks me. Westerners have absolutely no clue how these customs are used to prevent women from doing all sorts of things, but go ahead and defend something you know nothing about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 08/20/18 8:56:48 PM #41:	Dash_Harber posted... That's a terrible example. The American Occupation actually encouraged them to resurrect more of their culture, like the Samurai, who had fallen out of favor during the Meiji Restoration. The Meiji Restoration predates it be a huge amount of time, and was basically a forced westernization by their own government that completely reworked all their institutions from the ground up based on European models. Importantly, though, it was 100% a native decision (made in response to recent western aggression in Asia), and had nothing to do with forcing someone to integrate. No, I disagree strongly. You need to look at the end result. There are no samurai walking around today, at least not in the feudal sense that you may be implying. That perspective and practice, though perhaps wished for by some traditionalist crackpot politicians, has all but disappeared. The youth aren't championing a return to that. The native decision to integrate can not be divorced from Commodore Perry's military actions and the results of World War 2. Their cities were firebombed, two were nuked, their military was in shambles, and their emperor disgraced. That is the product of force. No Japanese decided it would be in their best interest to get hit by atomic bombs. You would think they'd be entirely anti US or anti West, but it's not true and they have been closely tied to both the US's economic and military interests in the Pacific for decades. It's not a perfect relationship by any means, but it's pretty damn close. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:907246277] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>That's a terrible example. The American Occupation actually encouraged them to resurrect more of their culture, like the Samurai, who had fallen out of favor during the Meiji Restoration. The Meiji Restoration predates it be a huge amount of time, and was basically a forced westernization by their own government that completely reworked all their institutions from the ground up based on European models. Importantly, though, it was 100% a native decision (made in response to recent western aggression in Asia), and had nothing to do with forcing someone to integrate.</quote> No, I disagree strongly. You need to look at the end result. There are no samurai walking around today, at least not in the feudal sense that you may be implying. That perspective and practice, though perhaps wished for by some traditionalist crackpot politicians, has all but disappeared. The youth aren't championing a return to that. The native decision to integrate can not be divorced from Commodore Perry's military actions and the results of World War 2. Their cities were firebombed, two were nuked, their military was in shambles, and their emperor disgraced. That is the product of force. No Japanese decided it would be in their best interest to get hit by atomic bombs. You would think they'd be entirely anti US or anti West, but it's not true and they have been closely tied to both the US's economic and military interests in the Pacific for decades. It's not a perfect relationship by any means, but it's pretty damn close.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/20/18 8:57:33 PM #42:	Kazi1212 posted... catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked there's the issue. you're just getting mad Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine. you're the one having an emotional reaction just because someone doesn't follow your customs No, Im having an emotional reaction because I know the misogyny and oppression behind the practice of those customs hide on a deeper level because I have personally experienced it, and to see those customs defended is what irks me. Westerners have absolutely no clue how these customs are used to prevent women from doing all sorts of things, but go ahead and defend something you know nothing about. but it's not your fight to fight. denying them employment might just put them in a worse position to be abuse when you could just take them on --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907246339] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked</quote> there's the issue. you're just getting mad</quote> Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine.</quote> you're the one having an emotional reaction just because someone doesn't follow your customs</quote> No, Im having an emotional reaction because I know the misogyny and oppression behind the practice of those customs hide on a deeper level because I have personally experienced it, and to see those customs defended is what irks me. Westerners have absolutely no clue how these customs are used to prevent women from doing all sorts of things, but go ahead and defend something you know nothing about.</quote> but it's not your fight to fight. denying them employment might just put them in a worse position to be abuse when you could just take them on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad_Chad 08/20/18 8:57:41 PM #43:	pro tip: dont move to countries that have rules and values and stuff that you dont like. its fucking stupid as fuck --- Female body inspector and motorboating enthusiast. <cite>Rad_Chad posted [p:907246349] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote>pro tip: dont move to countries that have rules and values and stuff that you dont like. its fucking stupid as fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/20/18 8:58:29 PM #44:	Rad_Chad posted... pro tip: dont move to countries that have rules and values and stuff that you dont like. its fucking stupid as fuck TIL being force to touch a mans hand just because he's in authority is a value of America --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907246389] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote>pro tip: dont move to countries that have rules and values and stuff that you dont like. its fucking stupid as fuck</quote> TIL being force to touch a mans hand just because he's in authority is a value of America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/20/18 9:04:55 PM #45:	catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked there's the issue. you're just getting mad Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine. you're the one having an emotional reaction just because someone doesn't follow your customs No, Im having an emotional reaction because I know the misogyny and oppression behind the practice of those customs hide on a deeper level because I have personally experienced it, and to see those customs defended is what irks me. Westerners have absolutely no clue how these customs are used to prevent women from doing all sorts of things, but go ahead and defend something you know nothing about. but it's not your fight to fight. denying them employment might just put them in a worse position to be abuse when you could just take them on Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to stick Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Whats your stake in all this since you brought that up? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907246771] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, growing up in a Muslim culture I just get irked</quote> there's the issue. you're just getting mad</quote> Why is that an issue? Is it an issue to respond with emotion to something I experienced personally and think is vile and a source of oppression for millions of people? Maybe thats an issue in your world but its not in mine.</quote> you're the one having an emotional reaction just because someone doesn't follow your customs</quote> No, Im having an emotional reaction because I know the misogyny and oppression behind the practice of those customs hide on a deeper level because I have personally experienced it, and to see those customs defended is what irks me. Westerners have absolutely no clue how these customs are used to prevent women from doing all sorts of things, but go ahead and defend something you know nothing about.</quote> but it's not your fight to fight. denying them employment might just put them in a worse position to be abuse when you could just take them on</quote> Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to stick Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Whats your stake in all this since you brought that up? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/20/18 9:05:37 PM #46:	Kazi1212 posted... Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to help Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards. you're projection your own issues onto other people --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907246812] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to help Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards.</quote> you're projection your own issues onto other people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/20/18 9:06:12 PM #47:	catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to help Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards. you're projection your own issues onto other people Can you elaborate? What is it that Im projecting? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907246851] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to help Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards.</quote> you're projection your own issues onto other people</quote> Can you elaborate? What is it that Im projecting?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/20/18 9:06:57 PM #48:	Kazi1212 posted... catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to help Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards. you're projection your own issues onto other people Can you elaborate? What is it that Im projecting? you feel like you rose above and that's how everyone else in your similar shoes should act --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907246897] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to help Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards.</quote> you're projection your own issues onto other people</quote> Can you elaborate? What is it that Im projecting?</quote> you feel like you rose above and that's how everyone else in your similar shoes should act</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/20/18 9:14:15 PM #49:	catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... catboy0_0 posted... Kazi1212 posted... Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to help Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards. you're projection your own issues onto other people Can you elaborate? What is it that Im projecting? you feel like you rose above and that's how everyone else in your similar shoes should act Try again. I dont recall ever saying everyone in my shoes should act similarly to me. Rather, I want them to have the freedom to behave however they want. What you dont get is these customs are used as a way prevent women from behaving how they want. Do you support the oppression of women? Because thats what these customs are there for. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907247338] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not my fight? Bro my entire family is Muslim, if its not my fight to help Muslim women within my family and beyond, whos is it? Also, I never said they shouldnt get a job for refusing to shake hands, but that they should rather think about being considerate and respectful in abiding by their adopted countys cultural standards.</quote> you're projection your own issues onto other people</quote> Can you elaborate? What is it that Im projecting?</quote> you feel like you rose above and that's how everyone else in your similar shoes should act</quote> Try again. I dont recall ever saying everyone in my shoes should act similarly to me. Rather, I want them to have the freedom to behave however they want. What you dont get is these customs are used as a way prevent women from behaving how they want. Do you support the oppression of women? Because thats what these customs are there for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 08/20/18 9:17:35 PM #50:	catboy0_0 posted... Rad_Chad posted... pro tip: dont move to countries that have rules and values and stuff that you dont like. its fucking stupid as fuck TIL being force to touch a mans hand just because he's in authority is a value of America A Muslim who refuses to shake hands is not a moderate Muslim. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:907247539] in The best w... [t:76921082]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote>pro tip: dont move to countries that have rules and values and stuff that you dont like. its fucking stupid as fuck</quote> TIL being force to touch a mans hand just because he's in authority is a value of America</quote> A Muslim who refuses to shake hands is not a moderate Muslim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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