Current Events > so what exactly is the problem with kneeling during the anthem

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YUHH
08/18/18 3:34:43 PM
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it shouldnt be played at football games anyways
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SauI_Goodman
08/18/18 3:37:49 PM
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It is showing disrespect to the men and women who fought for the flag. I personally was glad to hear of the military guy in NO who turned down the saints offer to be recognized because of their actions. And I'm proud of all the first responders in Miami who are currently boycotting the discounted tickets because of Kenny Stills. Looks like he wants to join Colin Kraepernick and Erica Reid in the unemployment line.
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VipaGTS
08/18/18 3:38:54 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
It is showing disrespect to the men and women who fought for the flag.

No it isnt. The flag does not JUST represent the military and that is not the intent of the protests at all. Just because you keep saying that wont make it true.
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SauI_Goodman
08/18/18 3:40:00 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
It is showing disrespect to the men and women who fought for the flag.

No it isnt. The flag does not JUST represent the military and that is not the intent of the protests at all. Just because you keep saying that wont make it true.


Just because you keep saying it doesn't doesn't make it not true. Look how easy that was!
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SauI_Goodman
08/18/18 3:40:37 PM
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Also, you writing in caps doesn't change a THING.
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VipaGTS
08/18/18 3:41:55 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
VipaGTS posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
It is showing disrespect to the men and women who fought for the flag.

No it isnt. The flag does not JUST represent the military and that is not the intent of the protests at all. Just because you keep saying that wont make it true.


Just because you keep saying it doesn't doesn't make it not true. Look how easy that was!

Yea expect one is right and one is wrong. The flag does not represent the military exclusively. It represents the entire country. A country which those players are part of. It represents them too. Stop with the bull shit.
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SauI_Goodman
08/18/18 3:42:46 PM
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And also, this isn't a race thing. I said the same thing about the one lesbian soccer player who is white and was kneeling as well. I was glad to see the US soccer federation make changes so she can't show blatant disrespect.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/18/18 3:43:00 PM
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It hurts america's feelings
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Ruid
08/18/18 3:43:02 PM
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YUHH posted...
it shouldnt be played at football games anyways

Everything is way more enjoyable after you've been bored to tears with the national anthem.
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3rd_Best_Master
08/18/18 3:43:54 PM
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Because for some reason a draft dodger became the arbiter of patriotism and he decided that violent neo-nazis exercising their free speech made them good people whereas professional and wealthy black people exercising theirs made them sons of bitches.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/18/18 3:45:31 PM
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Its the color the skin of the people protesting that gets others upset, not so much the act itself.

People do way more disrespectful things according to the flag code and yet you dont hear the usuals bitch about that.
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SageHarpuia
08/18/18 3:47:46 PM
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"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

Sounds pretty stuck up and disrespectful tbqh
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Garioshi
08/18/18 3:50:28 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
It is showing disrespect to the men and women who fought for the flag. I personally was glad to hear of the military guy in NO who turned down the saints offer to be recognized because of their actions. And I'm proud of all the first responders in Miami who are currently boycotting the discounted tickets because of Kenny Stills. Looks like he wants to join Colin Kraepernick and Erica Reid in the unemployment line.

The US military hasn't fought in a defensible conflict since the Korean War, and it wasn't even an American war. Everything after that has been fought either to expand the American sphere of influence, to topple unfavorable regimes (almost always democratically elected), or for resources. Nobody we've had a military conflict with in over 70 years has been a demonstrable threat to the country. Tell me why I, or anyone, should respect the military when all it does is imperialist wars.
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Taharqa_
08/18/18 4:00:59 PM
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It's a protest that was intended to bring focus on police brutality, intellectually dishonest folks conflate it with a protest against the military even after repeatedly being told that it's not about the military.

It's not really about the protest that is drawing ire from folks, it's the fact that it's black athletes protesting. America has never liked it when black folks protest anything.
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:02:50 PM
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"If there's something in this country you don't like then you need to protest it peacefully!"

"No wait not like that"
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DarthAragorn
08/18/18 4:04:48 PM
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Wow it's almost like people have different opinions and values
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Metro2
08/18/18 4:05:25 PM
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There's a difference between loving your country and blindly following the orders of narcissistic madman.

Besides, it's called free speech. It goes both ways.
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ASithLord7
08/18/18 4:05:41 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Wow it's almost like people have different opinions and values

Opinion...about why the people are doing it?
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El Mexicano Texano
08/18/18 4:09:31 PM
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If you look back at past games you can also see players kneeling before all this stuff happened a lot of players use it to pray at the same time as the anthem is playing
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DarthAragorn
08/18/18 4:10:41 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Wow it's almost like people have different opinions and values

Opinion...about why the people are doing it?

It's possible to understand why they're doing it and still view it as disrespectful, you know
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ArchiePeck
08/18/18 4:11:01 PM
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It's *nothing* to do with the military. Where do people get this concept from?
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LinksLiege
08/18/18 4:12:12 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Just because you keep saying it doesn't doesn't make it not true. Look how easy that was!

Just because you say it's disrespectful doesn't mean it's disrespectful. Look how easy it was to flip your shitty logic!
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Howl
08/18/18 4:13:34 PM
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A perfect storm of hypocrisy that goes on for years on end now.
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pauIie
08/18/18 4:14:36 PM
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The national anthem doesnt even slap

Vince Staples
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Bishop9800
08/18/18 4:16:52 PM
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ArchiePeck posted...
It's *nothing* to do with the military. Where do people get this concept from?


Trump
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LinksLiege
08/18/18 4:22:13 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
ArchiePeck posted...
It's *nothing* to do with the military. Where do people get this concept from?


Trump

Part Trump, part other Republicans who know how to manipulate their devoted followers.

It's pathetically easy; they're trained to believe the army requires the utmost reverence, so if you can convince them that anything is done in opposition to the troops, you can convince them that it's evil.
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VipaGTS
08/18/18 4:28:07 PM
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LinksLiege posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
ArchiePeck posted...
It's *nothing* to do with the military. Where do people get this concept from?


Trump

Part Trump, part other Republicans who know how to manipulate their devoted followers.

It's pathetically easy; they're trained to believe the army requires the utmost reverence, so if you can convince them that anything is done in opposition to the troops, you can convince them that it's evil.

Expect for providing aid for vets who were hurt by being sent to war. Thats socialism or something.
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Polycosm
08/18/18 4:31:47 PM
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There are plenty of problems with players taking a knee during the anthem:
people tune in to football for the concussions, not for politics
"taking a knee" is considered a sign of disrespect in some cultures
b-b-but what about black-on-black crime?

...to name a few.
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ThyCorndog
08/18/18 4:32:52 PM
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it makes bald eagles cry. do you want to make bald eagles cry?
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K181
08/18/18 4:34:12 PM
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Because black people did something publicly and there are a lot of racist snowflakes that didn't like it. They then pretended it was an anti-military thing to get widespread support because there are a lot of gullible idiots out there.
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VipaGTS
08/18/18 4:40:01 PM
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Polycosm posted...
There are plenty of problems with players taking a knee during the anthem:
people tune in to football for the concussions, not for politics
"taking a knee" is considered a sign of disrespect in some cultures
b-b-but what about black-on-black crime?

...to name a few.

You do realize that the person who gave Kaepernixk the idea to kneel served the country, right? Kaep used to just sit on the bench. He was given the idea to kneel by someone who serves as it was deemed more respectful by him.
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Polycosm
08/18/18 4:53:39 PM
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And with that, this topic has officially entered Poe's Law territory (sorry, my bad).
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ledbowman
08/18/18 4:59:46 PM
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Trump thinks the flag represents him.
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OwlRammer
08/18/18 5:01:08 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
it makes bald eagles cry. do you want to make bald eagles cry?

oh no not the bald eagles :(
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Ruid
08/18/18 5:31:16 PM
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Kneeling during the national anthem is insanely patriotic. It's offering your country a hummer.
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