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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 8:51:23 AM
#52:


Weird how the Trump presidency is also leading to more shitty alts on CE
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Bio1590
08/15/18 8:51:59 AM
#53:


Wutobliteration posted...
X-Pac_Heat posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
All of Alex Jones is a scam to sell vitamins and survivalist Shit. Its how he makes all his money.


This.

It's why I find the people that treat him seriously on here super pathetic.


wait, there's people here that do?

Yes

@HypnoCoosh
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Corman321
08/15/18 9:03:55 AM
#54:


If he is to be believed, his website has been attached and shut down. His credit card processor has been removed. His email service has been removed.

It doesn't matter what you think of him, you should understand how horrible that is. Noam Chomsky, who is a well known radical leftist who hates Trump, has spoken about this Alex Jones situation, defending him. He's the only one with enough of a brain to realize how dangerous this is.
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dave_is_slick
08/15/18 9:10:54 AM
#55:


newtonwuzvirgin posted...
Schwarber posted...
^Hey look more random new alts espousing alt-right ignorance. Shocking

Let me guess, you're a "libertarian" lmao

I'm an American that stands for true American values

It's "people" like you that got me warned again. I'd appreciate it it if you didn't post things that would make me call you what you really are. Mods would rather let white nationalists run rampant than see me basically call a spade a spade.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 9:20:17 AM
#56:


Corman321 posted...
If he is to be believed,


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Nomadic View
08/15/18 9:51:02 AM
#57:


Corman321 posted...
If he's such a joke, then why is he being completely deplatformed? This is a concentrated effort to completely take away his voice. What's next, the power company decides he doesn't deserve to have electricity? Comcast decides he doesn't deserve internet? That's what you're acting like is ok.


Public utilities are required to provide service as long as the bill is paid. Theres a small movement for social media to be treated like public utilities as well.
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eston
08/15/18 9:52:28 AM
#58:


dave_is_slick posted...
newtonwuzvirgin posted...
Schwarber posted...
^Hey look more random new alts espousing alt-right ignorance. Shocking

Let me guess, you're a "libertarian" lmao

I'm an American that stands for true American values

It's "people" like you that got me warned again. I'd appreciate it it if you didn't post things that would make me call you what you really are. Mods would rather let white nationalists run rampant than see me basically call a spade a spade.

This is a stupid post
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Alpha218
08/15/18 9:56:06 AM
#59:


I always wonder how people can actually follow and defend this guy

Then I remember that they were forced to do it because liberals made fun of the gay frogs, just like how they were forced to defend Nazis because the liberals compared the alt-right to Nazis

Of course, it all makes sense now
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dave_is_slick
08/15/18 10:07:00 AM
#60:


eston posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
newtonwuzvirgin posted...
Schwarber posted...
^Hey look more random new alts espousing alt-right ignorance. Shocking

Let me guess, you're a "libertarian" lmao

I'm an American that stands for true American values

It's "people" like you that got me warned again. I'd appreciate it it if you didn't post things that would make me call you what you really are. Mods would rather let white nationalists run rampant than see me basically call a spade a spade.

This is a stupid post

Nah
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Zeeak4444
08/15/18 10:16:35 AM
#61:


kayoticdreamz posted...
Corman321 posted...
If he's such a joke, then why is he being completely deplatformed? This is a concentrated effort to completely take away his voice. What's next, the power company decides he doesn't deserve to have electricity? Comcast decides he doesn't deserve internet? That's what you're acting like is ok.


this

liberals just hate dissenting opinions so they want him censored. Yet as you point out, if he is so crazy and his ideas are completely without merit, then why censor him? Surely you can just easily discredit him in a simple debate? But liberals never want to debate. They want to censor

No surprise you're a fan of his.
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newtonwuzvirgin
08/15/18 10:18:59 AM
#62:


Believing in freedom of speech doesn't make me a white nationalist.
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Corman321
08/15/18 10:24:13 AM
#63:


Alpha218 posted...
just like how they were forced to defend Nazis because the liberals compared the alt-right to Nazis


Even though it's literally Antifa that act like Nazis.
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Kombucha
08/15/18 10:25:16 AM
#64:


Quick nobody post actual info on the tweets that got his twitter restricted.
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Alpha218
08/15/18 10:27:04 AM
#65:


Corman321 posted...
Alpha218 posted...
just like how they were forced to defend Nazis because the liberals compared the alt-right to Nazis


Even though it's literally Antifa that act like Nazis.

Next youre gonna say that liberals are the ones who watch Alex Jones instead of the alt-right

Because yall cant help but project when forced into a corner with your bs, just like Trump
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Corman321
08/15/18 10:28:01 AM
#66:


Alpha218 posted...
Corman321 posted...
Alpha218 posted...
just like how they were forced to defend Nazis because the liberals compared the alt-right to Nazis


Even though it's literally Antifa that act like Nazis.

Next youre gonna say that liberals are the ones who watch Alex Jones instead of the alt-right

Because yall cant help but project when forced into a corner with your bs, just like Trump


Project what? Antifa are domestic terrorists that show up whenever someone wants to speak now. They don't allow them to speak. That is fascist, Nazi activity.
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CruelBuffalo
08/15/18 10:29:00 AM
#67:


Bio1590 posted...
There's some concern being thrown around that Twitter is seemingly trying to protect him. Seems they don't typically ask users to delete offending tweets.

Yes they do. For anyone
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Antifar
08/15/18 10:39:08 AM
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AmpV2
08/15/18 11:22:57 AM
#69:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
If he's such a joke, then why is he being completely deplatformed? This is a concentrated effort to completely take away his voice. What's next, the power company decides he doesn't deserve to have electricity? Comcast decides he doesn't deserve internet? That's what you're acting like is ok.


He's free to start up his own utility company, right?

Anyways, he is being removed because he precisely is a joke. Fake news and bullshit deserves to be squashed. Having a platform to speak via a private company like Twitter or YouTube isn't a right. Fuck him, let him figure out how to get his shit out in his own. Nobody is guaranteed help in spreading their opinions.


Fake news and bullshit deserves to be squashed. So why hasn't The Onion, Clickhole, Patriothole been squashed? What else qualifies as bullshit? Something like Hannity maybe? Tucker Carlson? Rush Limbaugh?


Because those are clearly satire publications. Do you really need the difference explained to you? Facepalm
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AmpV2
08/15/18 11:25:34 AM
#70:


newtonwuzvirgin posted...
Believing in freedom of speech doesn't make me a white nationalist.


He has freedom of speech. What the fuck are you talking about? Is he in jail or prison?
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LightHawKnight
08/15/18 11:25:41 AM
#71:


Corman321 posted...
Fin_Dawg_004 posted...
Corman321 posted...
There's this thing called H3 podcast and they were doing a live stream and started discussing Alex Jones being kicked off, and Youtube kicked THEM off and gave them a strike. Funniest part is that they were not talking positively about Jones, and were taking Youtube's side in the matter, yet simply talking about him got them shut down. That's how desperate they are to silence anything to do with him. That goes way beyond what any of you will admit what's going on here. Here's the clip for you to see yourself.

yea youtube admitted they made a mistake and reversed the strike against their account


Right, a mistake, which means what?

"Well it seemed like you were going to defend Jones so we hit the button on you, sorry!"

Is that what would be acceptable in your eyes? Only people of a certain opinion are allowed to speak, all others must be censored?


You do realize YT has said time and time again that they don't actually have enough people to watch all the videos and have an AI to flag and do most of the work for them right?
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Mr_Biscuit
08/15/18 11:30:46 AM
#72:


Why is there any debate here

He incited violence and got suspended

Thats pretty standard
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Corman321
08/15/18 11:35:50 AM
#73:


AmpV2 posted...
Because those are clearly satire publications. Do you really need the difference explained to you? Facepalm


They are fake news though. That's the point. If Alex Jones needs to be stopped for being fake news, don't they as well? I think what a lot of people miss is how much of what he says actually is a joke. When he starts screaming as he goes into the breaks, he's not being serious.

There's a clear line that's drawn from when he's reading a real news story and then when he goes off on a tirade. He injects humor into it all on purpose. Much of it is indeed satire, like, as you all love to point out, when he said they're making the frogs gay.

He is a sensationalist and he loves to take a mundane story and twist it around to make it sound much worse than it really is. That's no different than most news on the internet though. It's exactly the style of The Young Turks, but they're not being shut down.
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AmpV2
08/15/18 11:36:54 AM
#74:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Because those are clearly satire publications. Do you really need the difference explained to you? Facepalm


They are fake news though. That's the point. If Alex Jones needs to be stopped for being fake news, don't they as well? I think what a lot of people miss is how much of what he says actually is a joke. When he starts screaming as he goes into the breaks, he's not being serious.

There's a clear line that's drawn from when he's reading a real news story and then when he goes off on a tirade. He injects humor into it all on purpose. Much of it is indeed satire, like, as you all love to point out, when he said they're making the frogs gay.

He is a sensationalist and he loves to take a mundane story and twist it around to make it sound much worse than it really is. That's no different than most news on the internet though. It's exactly the style of The Young Turks, but they're not being shut down.


You are a waste of time to discuss this any further with.
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Corman321
08/15/18 11:39:42 AM
#75:


AmpV2 posted...
You are a waste of time to discuss this any further with.


That's a hell of a way of saying you know you can't argue with me.
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ThePieReborn
08/15/18 11:43:17 AM
#76:


Freedom of contract. Sucks to suck.
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The Great Muta 22
08/15/18 11:47:45 AM
#77:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
You are a waste of time to discuss this any further with.


That's a hell of a way of saying you know you can't argue with me.


No, it's saying you're not worth it to argue with. There's a difference Cornman
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Phantom_Nook
08/15/18 11:48:23 AM
#78:


Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1029477795561463808

This man must be free to say whatever he pleases!!!
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AmpV2
08/15/18 11:50:05 AM
#79:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
You are a waste of time to discuss this any further with.


That's a hell of a way of saying you know you can't argue with me.


I could debate you all night, but it is a waste of time. Your mind is incapable of changing based on facts and info. If you want to feel like some kind of victor, though, go ahead.
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Corman321
08/15/18 11:51:40 AM
#80:


AmpV2 posted...
I could debate you all night, but it is a waste of time.


You clearly cannot.
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AmpV2
08/15/18 11:52:01 AM
#81:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
I could debate you all night, but it is a waste of time.


You clearly cannot.


Yeah, clearly. Lol
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Nomadic View
08/15/18 12:16:08 PM
#82:


Alpha218 posted...
I always wonder how people can actually follow and defend this guy

Then I remember that they were forced to do it because liberals made fun of the gay frogs, just like how they were forced to defend Nazis because the liberals compared the alt-right to Nazis

Of course, it all makes sense now


I think theres a difference between defending what he says and defending his ability to say it.

I dont like what he says. I think hes a bit of a nut job, but he should be allowed to say his rhetoric. I dont like Cenk at the TYT that named his company after the Armenian Genocide and celebrates that white people are declining in society. I dont like Lewis Farrakhan who advocates for my death. However, I dont think any of them should be silenced.
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AmpV2
08/15/18 12:19:13 PM
#83:


Nomadic View posted...
Alpha218 posted...
I always wonder how people can actually follow and defend this guy

Then I remember that they were forced to do it because liberals made fun of the gay frogs, just like how they were forced to defend Nazis because the liberals compared the alt-right to Nazis

Of course, it all makes sense now


I think theres a difference between defending what he says and defending his ability to say it.

I dont like what he says. I think hes a bit of a nut job, but he should be allowed to say his rhetoric. I dont like Cenk at the TYT that named his company after the Armenian Genocide and celebrates that white people are declining in society. I dont like Lewis Farrakhan who advocates for my death. However, I dont think any of them should be silenced.


Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?
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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 12:20:51 PM
#84:


Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1029477795561463808

Yikes
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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 12:21:53 PM
#85:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Because those are clearly satire publications. Do you really need the difference explained to you? Facepalm


They are fake news though. That's the point. If Alex Jones needs to be stopped for being fake news, don't they as well? I think what a lot of people miss is how much of what he says actually is a joke. When he starts screaming as he goes into the breaks, he's not being serious.

There's a clear line that's drawn from when he's reading a real news story and then when he goes off on a tirade. He injects humor into it all on purpose. Much of it is indeed satire, like, as you all love to point out, when he said they're making the frogs gay.

He is a sensationalist and he loves to take a mundane story and twist it around to make it sound much worse than it really is. That's no different than most news on the internet though. It's exactly the style of The Young Turks, but they're not being shut down.

This is definitely a really stupid post
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AmpV2
08/15/18 12:23:23 PM
#86:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Because those are clearly satire publications. Do you really need the difference explained to you? Facepalm


They are fake news though. That's the point. If Alex Jones needs to be stopped for being fake news, don't they as well? I think what a lot of people miss is how much of what he says actually is a joke. When he starts screaming as he goes into the breaks, he's not being serious.

There's a clear line that's drawn from when he's reading a real news story and then when he goes off on a tirade. He injects humor into it all on purpose. Much of it is indeed satire, like, as you all love to point out, when he said they're making the frogs gay.

He is a sensationalist and he loves to take a mundane story and twist it around to make it sound much worse than it really is. That's no different than most news on the internet though. It's exactly the style of The Young Turks, but they're not being shut down.

This is definitely a really stupid post


See @Corman321, everybody agrees that debating you is a waste of time.
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Nomadic View
08/15/18 1:20:56 PM
#87:


AmpV2 posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Alpha218 posted...
I always wonder how people can actually follow and defend this guy

Then I remember that they were forced to do it because liberals made fun of the gay frogs, just like how they were forced to defend Nazis because the liberals compared the alt-right to Nazis

Of course, it all makes sense now


I think theres a difference between defending what he says and defending his ability to say it.

I dont like what he says. I think hes a bit of a nut job, but he should be allowed to say his rhetoric. I dont like Cenk at the TYT that named his company after the Armenian Genocide and celebrates that white people are declining in society. I dont like Lewis Farrakhan who advocates for my death. However, I dont think any of them should be silenced.


Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?


I think the problem many people have is the monopolization of online speech. Its controlled by just a handful corporations. Because of this monopoly type power it essentially shuts down free speech. More conversations happen through technology than real life. Our society has changed significantly from what it was 30 years ago and legislation hasnt kept up with the sprint of technology.

Some people are calling that social media companies be treated like public utilities because of their monopoly like nature.

Im not sold on that idea, but Im not at a place to dismiss it either.
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Corman321
08/15/18 1:48:53 PM
#88:


AmpV2 posted...
Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?


Then why are they shutting down his website, and his email, and his shopping carts?
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AmpV2
08/15/18 1:54:59 PM
#89:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?


Then why are they shutting down his website, and his email, and his shopping carts?


Who is? The companies that own the space that he uses? Good.
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Corman321
08/15/18 1:57:08 PM
#90:


AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?


Then why are they shutting down his website, and his email, and his shopping carts?


Who is? The companies that own the space that he uses? Good.


So basically what he needs to do is create his own civilization. His own electric company, his own grid, his own servers, his own phone lines. Geeze, what's he even whining about? It's so easy!
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/15/18 1:58:47 PM
#91:


"et to" lol. It's et tu.
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Kaliesto
08/15/18 1:58:57 PM
#92:


Get fucked Alex Jones, self-serving bastard.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 2:08:07 PM
#94:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?


Then why are they shutting down his website, and his email, and his shopping carts?


Who is? The companies that own the space that he uses? Good.


So basically what he needs to do is create his own civilization. His own electric company, his own grid, his own servers, his own phone lines. Geeze, what's he even whining about? It's so easy!

I cant wait till high school is back in session so your teachers have to listen to this stupid shit instead of us.
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AmpV2
08/15/18 2:10:33 PM
#95:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?


Then why are they shutting down his website, and his email, and his shopping carts?


Who is? The companies that own the space that he uses? Good.


So basically what he needs to do is create his own civilization. His own electric company, his own grid, his own servers, his own phone lines. Geeze, what's he even whining about? It's so easy!


Correct. He is not entitled to shit from any private business.

He's whining because he's not going to be making re kind of money he was in the past from the most ignorant people America has to offer.
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Corman321
08/15/18 2:37:37 PM
#96:


AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?


Then why are they shutting down his website, and his email, and his shopping carts?


Who is? The companies that own the space that he uses? Good.


So basically what he needs to do is create his own civilization. His own electric company, his own grid, his own servers, his own phone lines. Geeze, what's he even whining about? It's so easy!


Correct. He is not entitled to shit from any private business.

He's whining because he's not going to be making re kind of money he was in the past from the most ignorant people America has to offer.


These are public services that you would deny to a person because of his political views. If it's good enough for Jones, then it's good enough for everyone else that you don't like.
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AmpV2
08/15/18 2:55:12 PM
#97:


Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?


Then why are they shutting down his website, and his email, and his shopping carts?


Who is? The companies that own the space that he uses? Good.


So basically what he needs to do is create his own civilization. His own electric company, his own grid, his own servers, his own phone lines. Geeze, what's he even whining about? It's so easy!


Correct. He is not entitled to shit from any private business.

He's whining because he's not going to be making re kind of money he was in the past from the most ignorant people America has to offer.


These are public services that you would deny to a person because of his political views. If it's good enough for Jones, then it's good enough for everyone else that you don't like.


Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and Spotify are not public services. Comcast is a utility. He can still have internet access.
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Corman321
08/15/18 3:00:21 PM
#98:


AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Corman321 posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Nobody is saying Alex Jones isn't allowed to spew his shit. But privately owned companies are saying he isn't allowed to spew his shit on their medium. What is the problem here?


Then why are they shutting down his website, and his email, and his shopping carts?


Who is? The companies that own the space that he uses? Good.


So basically what he needs to do is create his own civilization. His own electric company, his own grid, his own servers, his own phone lines. Geeze, what's he even whining about? It's so easy!


Correct. He is not entitled to shit from any private business.

He's whining because he's not going to be making re kind of money he was in the past from the most ignorant people America has to offer.


These are public services that you would deny to a person because of his political views. If it's good enough for Jones, then it's good enough for everyone else that you don't like.


Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and Spotify are not public services. Comcast is a utility. He can still have internet access.


Bullshit, don't take it back to that. You said CORRECT that he needs to build his own civilization. His websites don't deserve to stay up, his electricity deserves to be shut off, you confirmed this. This goes way beyond being on Facebook.
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EbonTitanium
08/15/18 3:21:44 PM
#99:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1029477795561463808

Yikes

Somebody may die because of this.
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AmpV2
08/15/18 3:28:44 PM
#100:


Corman321 posted...


Bullshit, don't take it back to that. You said CORRECT that he needs to build his own civilization. His websites don't deserve to stay up, his electricity deserves to be shut off, you confirmed this. This goes way beyond being on Facebook.


I think he should be denied internet access by utilities, you are correct. He incites violence. The world would be better off if this person never existed. What are you not getting about my opinion here? Unfortunately, he is still entitled access to utilities.
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Funkydog
08/15/18 3:33:06 PM
#101:


We can at least use Corns post to make ourselves feel better from the fact we aren't him.
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