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Vertania
08/14/18 2:04:52 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/13/us/new-mexico-compund-suspects/index.html
The family fled Georgia for a compound in New Mexico where they trained their children in firearms use, according to testimony. A child died at his father's hand during a religious ritual intended to expel religious demons from his body. Eleven more malnourished children were later found on the property.

The family believed that once the demons were gone, the boy would return as Jesus four months later and tell his family which institutions to get rid of, a witness said. Those who did not believe "their message" would be killed or detained "until they believed," a teenager on the compound said, according to a FBI agent.

But none of that makes them a present danger to the community or to their children, a defense lawyer argued. They were following religious rituals that might be viewed in a different light if they were white Christians instead of black Muslims, the lawyer claimed.

After four hours of testimony on Monday, a judge sided with the defense. She ruled that the suspects were not shown to be a threat and allowed them unsecured bond.

What. The. Actual. Fuck.
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Vertania
08/14/18 2:11:02 PM
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M_Live posted...
Religion now protects kidnapping, murder & torture?

This part gets me:
They were following religious rituals that might be viewed in a different light if they were white Christians instead of black Muslims, the [defense] lawyer claimed.

Like, no, I'm pretty sure members of any religion and/or race would be viewed in the same "they're fucking insane and dangerous" light in this scenario.
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Vertania
08/14/18 6:11:32 PM
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Isn't anyone following this story? It just happened last week. Thought I saw some topic on it, but they're all gone now.
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AstralMeats
08/14/18 6:20:14 PM
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Vertania posted...
But none of that makes them a present danger to the community or to their children, a defense lawyer argued.

How do these lawyers live with themselves?
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Bishop9800
08/14/18 6:24:15 PM
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AstralMeats posted...
Vertania posted...
But none of that makes them a present danger to the community or to their children, a defense lawyer argued.

How do these lawyers live with themselves?


Lawyers don't have a soul, they have cash registers.
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DarkTransient
08/14/18 6:28:28 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
AstralMeats posted...
Vertania posted...
But none of that makes them a present danger to the community or to their children, a defense lawyer argued.

How do these lawyers live with themselves?


Lawyers don't have a soul, they have cash registers.


The whole point is that one side takes the extreme on the "they're guilty as fuck" side, the other takes the extreme on the "they did nothing wrong" side... if there is anything, however remote or desperate, that could back those positions up, of course. Then the neutral parties - the judge, and possibly jury - decide the verdict based on what comes out of those two extremes arguing over the case.
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Zikten
08/14/18 6:28:36 PM
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Weren't these people practicing to do school shootings? How can they say they are not a danger?
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P4wn4g3
08/14/18 6:32:01 PM
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As a New Mexican I apologize for our state's unchecked psychopath problem.

Taos is one of the crazier parts of the state too so it's not very surprising.
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Vertania
08/14/18 6:33:18 PM
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Zikten posted...
Weren't these people practicing to do school shootings? How can they say they are not a danger?

That's what the reports last week were saying. This article says they were planning to "get rid of" certain government institutions by killing and kidnapping anyone who didn't believe that their dead brother was a reincarnation of Jesus. Not sure if that included schools.
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Ruid
08/14/18 6:39:19 PM
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So less than four months to go then..
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Vertania
08/15/18 8:39:45 AM
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It's some consolation to know that two of the defendants are going to stay in custody. The father responsible for killing the child will stay because he has a warrant in Georgia, while one of the mothers has been taken in by ICE.

https://www.apnews.com/d650f2a295d6480a9e572f2a45c28b39
The father of a severely disabled boy who was kidnapped in Georgia will not be released because an arrest warrant has been issued for him in that state.

Another defendant, Jany Leveille, was taken into custody by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services on Tuesday, Taos County Sheriff Jerry Hogrefe announced. The 35-year-old native of Haiti is the mother of six children taken into state custody during the compound raid.

Three other defendants Lucas Morton, Subhannah Wahhaj and Hujrah Wahhaj had yet to be released on Tuesday.
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Were_Wyrm
08/15/18 8:44:57 AM
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Don't worry Soros will get them out too.
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SweetieBelle462
08/15/18 8:45:58 AM
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DarkProto05
08/15/18 8:49:24 AM
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SweetieBelle462 posted...
This is my state, bunch of blue voting morons v_v

Blue > Red

And I don't see what politics has to do with these bat-shit crazy religious lunatics.
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Bacon_Pancakes
08/15/18 8:53:51 AM
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Vertania posted...
one of the mothers


Also, how in the hell can anyone say "oh if it was a white guy doing this, then maybe it would've been ok?" Like holy fuck.
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P4wn4g3
08/15/18 10:33:06 AM
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SweetieBelle462 posted...
This is my state, bunch of blue voting morons v_v

Taos is redneck ville bruh
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Darkman124
08/15/18 10:46:05 AM
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judge should be recalled
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iClockwork
08/15/18 10:49:38 AM
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Vertania posted...
Isn't anyone following this story? It just happened last week. Thought I saw some topic on it, but they're all gone now.

It doesn't trash on white people so, no?
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P4wn4g3
08/15/18 10:50:59 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Vertania posted...
Isn't anyone following this story? It just happened last week. Thought I saw some topic on it, but they're all gone now.

It doesn't trash on white people so, no?

Real reason: nobody gives a shit about NM
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EnterTheTekken
08/15/18 10:57:37 AM
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This is going to spawn some good death metal.
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LightHawKnight
08/15/18 11:01:28 AM
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What is that lawyer smoking?
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TheSextMachine
08/15/18 11:33:50 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
SweetieBelle462 posted...
This is my state, bunch of blue voting morons v_v

Taos is redneck ville bruh

Liberal rednecks exist.
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P4wn4g3
08/15/18 11:45:32 AM
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TheSextMachine posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
SweetieBelle462 posted...
This is my state, bunch of blue voting morons v_v

Taos is redneck ville bruh

Liberal rednecks exist.

Eh, not so much in new mexico.
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davyheinz
08/15/18 11:50:45 AM
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That's pretty fucking stupid to me. They arent a present danger? Theyd probably just go get more kids and do it all again if they could. Theyve been stopped for now, but they clearly have issues.
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